From lcain at seasurf.net Wed Jan 1 00:37:22 2003 From: lcain at seasurf.net (Lee & Lori Cain) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Red-Tailed Hawk Not Fan Of Shakespeare Message-ID: <000b01c2b171$022e3a40$5de9f5cc@lcain> I was driving through the high school parking lot today when something fell from the wires overhead. It turned out to be two starlings duking it out in mortal combat. Each bird had its "talons" locked into the breast of the other, and they flopped and flapped back and forth, screeching and pecking hard for all they were worth, first one on top, and then the other. It was all taking place in a mud puddle, but they were so engrossed they didn't seem to mind. At first I had foolish softy thoughts about breaking it up, then I thought "no this is nature," then I thought "What am I saying, these are STARLINGS and may they both just --" Suddenly a mature RED-TAILED HAWK slammed into the action and in a flash carried BOTH starlings of to a nearby piling, where it promptly began dismantling them. Natural selection in action...ahhhhhh.....wish I had a video camera. That's got to be the top of my Parking Lot Action List. Lee Cain Aquatic Biology/Integrated Science Astoria High School Home: lcain@seasurf.net >//////> >//////> >//////> From cgates at empnet.com Wed Jan 1 00:56:38 2003 From: cgates at empnet.com (Charles Gates) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Prineville CBC Results Message-ID: <3E12AD45.A70A9B49@empnet.com> Below are the highlights of the Prineville Christmas Bird Count. The weather was nearly perfect and 16 participants collected a record 91 species (87 was the old record). The best bird was a EURASIAN GREEN-WINGED TEAL at the Prineville Sewer Ponds followed by a HARRIS' SPARROW on Rimrock Rd. NW of the sewer ponds. Both of these birds were found by Judy Meredith and Peter Low. By the way, this was the 20th year of this count. Best Birds: FERRUGINOUS HAWK - 4TH RECORD MOUNTAIN QUAIL - 3RD RECORD SORA - 4TH RECORD RING-BILLED GULL - 4TH RECORD BARN OWL - 6TH RECORD DIPPER - 2ND RECORD WESTERN BLUEBIRD - 2ND RECORD SAVANNAH SPARROW - 3RD RECORD FOX SPARROW - 3RD RECORD HARRIS SPARROW - 3RD RECORD Worst Misses: Pine Siskin Golden-crowned Kinglet Wood Duck Pied-billed Grebe Many thanks to the participants. Chuck Gates Prineville From bigrocketman3 at webtv.net Wed Jan 1 04:54:36 2003 From: bigrocketman3 at webtv.net (Steve McDonald) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Hawks and Starlings Message-ID: <21549-3E12E50C-8861@storefull-2112.public.lawson.webtv.net> Once, I was relaxing under a tree, when a flopping, screeching, ball of feathers landed next to me. It was a big, cock Starling, that had been seized by a Sharp-shinned Hawk. They rolled around in a death struggle for half a minute and the Starling won-----or at least survived. He was too tough and strong for the hawk to subdue and he got in some good beak gouges to the head, himself. Another one of Nature's dramatic scenes occurred on our farm, when two cock pheasants were having a battle royale, near a fence corner. I was watching from a distance, when suddenly, a Red Fox shot from cover and leaped high to nail one of the roosters, as they started to rocket away. A stronger element was added to the survival of the fittest in that incident. I read a story with pictures of someone who had hand-raised two fox kits. He trained them to be unparalled bird dogs and retrievers. The natural teamwork and hunting stategy they used, gave a poor bird or rabbit a slim chance of escaping. He needed no gun when he had them. Steve McDonald From bigrocketman3 at webtv.net Wed Jan 1 05:12:44 2003 From: bigrocketman3 at webtv.net (Steve McDonald) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: People-friendly Birds Message-ID: <21549-3E12E94C-8867@storefull-2112.public.lawson.webtv.net> Hunters, a small minority today, steal more from us than might occur to many people. Because of them, most wildlife regards us all as predators, to be feared and avoided. Without them, in a place as Pamela described, wildlife can be viewed as though in a petting zoo. I say this as a former hardcore hunter, reformed and repentant. As I know from my past associates, hunters regard such as us with contempt. They consider wildlife and their killing to be their own reserved domain and think of us as silly nuisances. Steve McDonald From 5hats at peak.org Wed Jan 1 06:53:52 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: gray Fox Sparrow Message-ID: <000501c2b1a5$d7e5b170$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> OBOL, On yesterday's Dallas CBC Pat Gallagher and I saw a Fox Sparrow of the gray interior race. The bill was small, and the entire head, and back, as well as the streaking on the breast was plain dark gray, set off sharply from the reddish color on the extreme lower rump and tail. I didn't get a good look at the wings as the bird remained partly hidden in the blackberry bushes, but as it turned to fly away I was able to clearly see the gray back and contrasting tail. How unusual is it for these birds to show up in western Oregon? I don't recall ever having seen one before. Darrel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030101/f5018e9b/attachment.htm From jgeier at attglobal.net Wed Jan 1 07:54:48 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: OFO Birding Weekends Message-ID: <3E130F48.2082C4BE@attglobal.net> Hello birders, Yes, looking at the figures again I stand corrected about the meaning of the second category, "income to leaders." As Paul points out, this was the total amount which was available to cover expenses (lodging, meals, gas, phone & postage) by all trip leaders and co-leaders. The point stands that these trips are at best a break-even proposition for OFO, even if the FRS radios mentioned by Paul are counted as an asset for future activities by the Oregon birding community (e.g. these were put into service on the Coquille Valley CBC this weekend). I am also aware that not all leaders and co-leaders have claimed their full expenses over the years, so those individuals truly deserve our thanks for what amounts to a personal contribution to Oregon birding, over and above the effort that went into arranging and leading these trips. One of the more remarkable aspects of birding to me is how many people donate time and effort, and have even willingly spent out of pocket to help support important activities besides these weekends: local Audubon chapter field trips, the Oregon Breeding Bird Atlas, Breeding Bird Surveys, migration counts, and the Christmas Bird Counts going on right now. The last never fails to amaze me as a truly Tom Sawyer-esque activity -- how many birders in this state will even pay $5 apiece and over their own travel expenses, for the privilege of counting starlings, robins and geese all day in the rain! If there was any profit gained by anyone from the past six years of OFO weekends, it is in the realm of good birds seen and hopefully a pleasant time enjoyed by all. That tradition will continue, with more great OFO Birding Weekends coming up: January 18-19 Union County: Winter specialties of NE Oregon February 15-16 Coos Bay: Oregon's largest estuary in winter April 11-12 Columbia Basin: Early spring migration May 10-11 Harney County: OFO Service Weekend (free for those who help out with the saturday migration count). These trips will be organized by Ray Korpi, who has led or co-led many of the past OFO Birding Weekends. Contact Ray (rkorpi@hotmail.com) for more information on how to sign up. Happy birding in the new year, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From FoxSparrows at aol.com Wed Jan 1 10:20:29 2003 From: FoxSparrows at aol.com (FoxSparrows@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: gray Fox Sparrow Message-ID: <113.1ce00495.2b448b6d@aol.com> In a message dated 1/1/2003 6:56:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, 5hats@peak.org writes: > On yesterday's Dallas CBC Pat Gallagher and I saw a Fox Sparrow of the gray > interior race. The bill was small, and the entire head, and back, as well > as the streaking on the breast was plain dark gray, set off sharply from > the reddish color on the extreme lower rump and tail. I didn't get a good > look at the wings as the bird remained partly hidden in the blackberry > bushes, but as it turned to fly away I was able to clearly see the gray > back and contrasting tail. I would say that in general, even the Great Basin and Rocky mountain "shistacea" form should not appear to have a particularly small bill, and definately not with any of the Siskiyous or Cascades birds. Also, I would not describe the upperparts as "dark" gray.... In general, (and Mike Patterson is more of an authority on wintering forms of FOSP), I would approach identification of wintering FOSP to form with extreme caution... the "sooty" forms are highly variable, and we don't see all of them all the time down here. One thing that might help... the interior birds I've banded almost never have even a slight hint of yellow on the bill (young HY excepted)... these birds have very blue bills.... Steve Dowlan Mehama, Oregon The North Santiam Canyon of the western Cascades OWLHOOTER@AOL.COM Fox Sparrows@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030101/ae0231c8/attachment.htm From whoffman at pioneer.net Wed Jan 1 11:54:31 2003 From: whoffman at pioneer.net (whoffman@pioneer.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: OFO Birding Weekends References: Message-ID: <3E134777.EC1@pioneer.net> There is an important secondary issue here. Oregon requires licensing of "guides" whether they are fishing guides, hunting guides, river rafting guides, bird guides, or people leading wildflower walks. The license is required if the "guide" is being paid for the guiding services. As I understand it, reimbursement of expenses such as motels, food and gas is not considered pay. According to an article by Bill Monroe a year or so ago, getting licensed involves a written test, a $300 fee, and I think proof of appropriate insurance. According to that article, there are state officials watching for evidence of unlicensed guiding, and fines do get levied. So, it is important to distinguish reimbursement of expenses from "pay" unless all co-leaders have guide licenses. Joel Geier wrote: > > Hello birders, > > Yes, looking at the figures again I stand corrected about > the meaning of the second category, "income to leaders." As > Paul points out, this was the total amount which was > available to cover expenses (lodging, meals, gas, phone & > postage) by all trip leaders and co-leaders. The point > stands that these trips are at best a break-even proposition > for OFO, even if the FRS radios mentioned by Paul are > counted as an asset for future activities by the Oregon > birding community (e.g. these were put into service on the > Coquille Valley CBC this weekend). > > I am also aware that not all leaders and co-leaders have > claimed their full expenses over the years, so those > individuals truly deserve our thanks for what amounts to a > personal contribution to Oregon birding, over and above the > effort that went into arranging and leading these trips. > > One of the more remarkable aspects of birding to me is how > many people donate time and effort, and have even willingly > spent out of pocket to help support important activities > besides these weekends: local Audubon chapter field trips, > the Oregon Breeding Bird Atlas, Breeding Bird Surveys, > migration counts, and the Christmas Bird Counts going on > right now. The last never fails to amaze me as a truly Tom > Sawyer-esque activity -- how many birders in this state will > even pay $5 apiece and over their own travel expenses, for > the privilege of counting starlings, robins and geese all > day in the rain! > > If there was any profit gained by anyone from the past six > years of OFO weekends, it is in the realm of good birds seen > and hopefully a pleasant time enjoyed by all. That > tradition will continue, with more great OFO Birding > Weekends coming up: > > January 18-19 Union County: Winter specialties of NE > Oregon > February 15-16 Coos Bay: Oregon's largest estuary in winter > April 11-12 Columbia Basin: Early spring migration > May 10-11 Harney County: OFO Service Weekend (free for > those > who help out with the saturday migration count). > > These trips will be organized by Ray Korpi, who has led or > co-led many of the past OFO Birding Weekends. Contact Ray > (rkorpi@hotmail.com) for more information on how to sign up. > > Happy birding in the new year, > Joel > > -- > Joel Geier > jgeier@attglobal.net From camgco32 at earthlink.net Wed Jan 1 12:07:23 2003 From: camgco32 at earthlink.net (John Lawes) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: People-friendly Birds Message-ID: <000e01c2b1d1$67799e20$d0c8bf3f@camgco32earthlink.net> Just as things are not always sui generis, I speak as a birder and a duck hunter in saying that I value both activities, and do not look upon either as strictly good or evil. I suspect that there are as many of my sort of hunter as the other. I don't think of conservationists as silly nuisances, and most bird hunters of my acquaintance have knowledge of wild birds and their ways gained from long hours of observation that would do justice to an avian biologist. The existence of 10,000-year-old tule reed decoys suggests people have been hunting birds for a long time before the dog-and-shotgun hunting of today. It also leads me to suspect that birds have seen humans as potential predators for a long time. At the very least I suspect that humans have influenced bird behavior in many different ways. How many birds in the wild come to hand the way park duckies and camp chickadees do? I have never seen small birds - and such birds have been undisturbed by hunting for thousands of years - approach me like petting zoo animals unless they see me as a potential food provider. The interaction between people and birds may be as complex as between people and people. We do ourselves and others a disservice to reduce their motives to a level of simplicity in order to either praise or condemn them. Speaking of waterfowl, stopped by Crystal Springs and Westmoreland yesterday. Lots of the usual suspects except for low numbers of Bufflehead. Also couldn't find a Eurasian among the widgeon. 20-30 nice looking L. Scaup, tho, along with the usual quackers and two huge Muscovy Ducks I don't remember seeing earlier in the year. Several Stellar's Jays taking advantage of the duck corn, too. J. Lawes camgco32@eathlink.net From whoffman at pioneer.net Wed Jan 1 12:20:13 2003 From: whoffman at pioneer.net (whoffman@pioneer.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: People-friendly Birds (long) References: Message-ID: <3E134D7D.47F0@pioneer.net> I lived in Florida for most of 2 decades and can confirm Bruce's and Pamela's observations. The phenomenon is widespread, not just confined to protected spots like Shark Valley. Herons and egrets are approachable on beaches throughout the state, and in these areas feeding plays a role. People fishing on the beaches often toss unwanted fish they catch, and leftover bait th herons and pelicans. I have known a few regularly fed Great White herons in the Florida Keys who even became willing to enter peoples houses to be fed. In turn, certain herons often try to steal bait. On fishing piers both herons and Brown Pelicans get into this act. A down side is frequent accidental hooking of these birds, and consequent injury and mortality, particularly of the pelicans. This accomodation to people is not confined to Florida. In Bonaire I have seen Ruddy Turnstones come into open-air beach-side cafes and forage off people's plates (these cafes had roofs but no walls). Even in Oregon we have a number of places where "wild" waterfowl become approachable, most notably Westmoreland park and Crystal Springs in east Portland. Again, food and lack of hunting play big roles. I believe that over my lifetime, diurnal raptors have become distinctly more tolerant of people than they used to be. I get many more opportunities to get within camera range of hawks, falcons, and eagles than I used to. I attribute this to most hunters becoming more law-abiding, and thus most hawks not being shot at these days. Interestingly, the Florida Keys have large migrations of Peregrine Falcons, Merlins, and American Kestrels. The Kestrels were consistently warier then the other species, which surprised me until I learned from a raptor bander, that many kestrels were getting shot in dove-hunting areas in the Carolinas, whereas the Peregrines and Merlins were mostly migrating along the beaches and sounds, where the hunters weren't (their migration mostly precedes waterfowl hunting seasons there). The same holds for Ravens. When I was growing up in the '60s, Ravens were wild country birds to be seen away from houses and towns. I was struck by the difference in their behavior when I went to Alaska in the mid-'70s, and saw them walking on sidewalks, perching on fishing boats at the dock, etc. Now, they are becoming somewhat urban here as well. Crescent City, California has a large population of beach and park Ravens, and they are common in farmland and at landfills and transfer stations at numerous places around Oregon. Again I attribute cessation of persecution. I suspect Ravens were never persecuted much in Alaska, as they were appeaciated by the native populations and Alaska has not had much of the kinds of agriculture that led to persecution in the lower 48. Happy New Year and Good Birding Wayne Hoffman Steve McDonald wrote: > > Hunters, a small minority today, steal more from us than might > occur to many people. Because of them, most wildlife regards us all as > predators, to be feared and avoided. Without them, in a place as Pamela > described, wildlife can be viewed as though in a petting zoo. I say > this as a former hardcore hunter, reformed and repentant. As I know > from my past associates, hunters regard such as us with contempt. They > consider wildlife and their killing to be their own reserved domain and > think of us as silly nuisances. > > Steve McDonald From 3sisters at outlawnet.com Wed Jan 1 12:20:19 2003 From: 3sisters at outlawnet.com (Stephen Shunk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Guide licenses, was OFO Weekends In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Oregon State Outfitter-Guide license costs $50 per year and requires proof of liability insurance and Red Cross First Aid/CPR certification. There is no written test. The license is required for all commercial outfitters in the state. I believe OFO is exempt since we are a non-profit, but I would have to check the statute to be sure. Steve Shunk Licensed Outfitter/Guide -- Stephen Shunk Paradise Birding Sisters, OR 541-549-8826 (home) 541-408-1753 (cell) 541-549-8937 (fax) www.paradisebirding.com GET INVOLVED WITH THE OREGON CASCADES BIRDING TRAIL! http://www.oregonbirdingtrails.org/ "Exploring Nature in Your Backyard ... and Beyond" > From: whoffman@pioneer.net > Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 11:54:31 -0800 > To: "Obol" > Cc: Obol > Subject: Re: OFO Birding Weekends > > There is an important secondary issue here. Oregon requires licensing > of "guides" whether they are fishing guides, hunting guides, river > rafting guides, bird guides, or people leading wildflower walks. The > license is required if the "guide" is being paid for the guiding > services. As I understand it, reimbursement of expenses such as motels, > food and gas is not considered pay. > > According to an article by Bill Monroe a year or so ago, getting > licensed involves a written test, a $300 fee, and I think proof of > appropriate insurance. According to that article, there are state > officials watching for evidence of unlicensed guiding, and fines do get > levied. > > So, it is important to distinguish reimbursement of expenses from "pay" > unless all co-leaders have guide licenses. > > > > > Joel Geier wrote: >> >> Hello birders, >> >> Yes, looking at the figures again I stand corrected about >> the meaning of the second category, "income to leaders." As >> Paul points out, this was the total amount which was >> available to cover expenses (lodging, meals, gas, phone & >> postage) by all trip leaders and co-leaders. The point >> stands that these trips are at best a break-even proposition >> for OFO, even if the FRS radios mentioned by Paul are >> counted as an asset for future activities by the Oregon >> birding community (e.g. these were put into service on the >> Coquille Valley CBC this weekend). >> >> I am also aware that not all leaders and co-leaders have >> claimed their full expenses over the years, so those >> individuals truly deserve our thanks for what amounts to a >> personal contribution to Oregon birding, over and above the >> effort that went into arranging and leading these trips. >> >> One of the more remarkable aspects of birding to me is how >> many people donate time and effort, and have even willingly >> spent out of pocket to help support important activities >> besides these weekends: local Audubon chapter field trips, >> the Oregon Breeding Bird Atlas, Breeding Bird Surveys, >> migration counts, and the Christmas Bird Counts going on >> right now. The last never fails to amaze me as a truly Tom >> Sawyer-esque activity -- how many birders in this state will >> even pay $5 apiece and over their own travel expenses, for >> the privilege of counting starlings, robins and geese all >> day in the rain! >> >> If there was any profit gained by anyone from the past six >> years of OFO weekends, it is in the realm of good birds seen >> and hopefully a pleasant time enjoyed by all. That >> tradition will continue, with more great OFO Birding >> Weekends coming up: >> >> January 18-19 Union County: Winter specialties of NE >> Oregon >> February 15-16 Coos Bay: Oregon's largest estuary in winter >> April 11-12 Columbia Basin: Early spring migration >> May 10-11 Harney County: OFO Service Weekend (free for >> those >> who help out with the saturday migration count). >> >> These trips will be organized by Ray Korpi, who has led or >> co-led many of the past OFO Birding Weekends. Contact Ray >> (rkorpi@hotmail.com) for more information on how to sign up. >> >> Happy birding in the new year, >> Joel >> >> -- >> Joel Geier >> jgeier@attglobal.net From wildbird at pacifier.com Wed Jan 1 12:22:53 2003 From: wildbird at pacifier.com (Brian M. Godfrey) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: "people-friendly" birds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003001c2b1d3$90a87490$0301a8c0@HomeDesktop> > If you've ever lived in an area where the "hunters" (not to > be confused with hunters), shoot at anything with feathers... Janet and I went to Italy this fall and, of course, took the binoculars with us. Contrary to what one might expect of overpopulated Europe, there are many birds in Italy. Unfortunately, it is the norm to shoot at anything with feathers regardless, it seems, of size (the town of Montalcino has a festival featuring thousands of roast thrush.) And so the best birding is often in the cities. They are coming around, though, and we visited one wildlife refuge at Oasi Lago di Montepulciano (Lake Montepulciano Oasis or refuge) which I would recommend as a great birding destination during migrations and probably pretty good all year-round. It is in SE Tuscany, an excellent area for a general vacation, and is part of a collection of refuges run by an organization called LIPU. Erosion has filled most of the historic lake and it is gradually being dredged, channels and mudflats being created and an island made in the center to give protected nesting areas for many aquatic birds. It's a great place run by a great guy (Roberto Spacone) who took us around the lake in a rather leaky boat. I won't burden the list anymore with this, but if anyone is thinking of a visit to this part of Italy, send me an email and I'll answer any questions I can. Spring would be a fantastic time to go - great birding, fresh food, and fewer tourists. --Brian M. Godfrey brian@wildbirdshop.com From crmiller at bendnet.com Wed Jan 1 12:27:54 2003 From: crmiller at bendnet.com (Craig Miller) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: BEND CBC highlights Message-ID: <001e01c2b1d4$8c78b820$4625a3ce@default> The 35th BEND Christmas Bird Count was one of our best ever. We felt fortunate to have beautiful weather, coming out of a depressing week of overcast skies, wind, and rain. The miserable weather returned the day following the count. We found 93 species (plus an additional 6 count week species), the 2nd highest ever. (The highest count was last year--97 species). We came in 3rd for number of birds recorded--18,488. We had 24 participants, the 2nd highest number next to last year's 33. The most remarkable species by far was a pair of RED PHALAROPES that made a one day showing at Hatfield Lake. This was a first for the Bend CBC and there are only 3 previous records for Deschutes County. Other unusual birds included 10 SNOW GEESE (only the 3rd time on the Bend CBC), 3 GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE (only the 13th time on the Bend CBC), 1 EURASIAN WIGEION (only the 9th, ANNA'S HUMMINGBIRD (only the 5th), 1 BLUE JAY (only the 3rd), 1 YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLER (only the 7th), 1 LINCOLN'S SPARROW (the 8th), 7 BROWN-HEADED COWBIRDS (the 3rd), and 5 LESSER GOLDFINCHES (the 3rd time on the Bend CBC). Our most notable miss included Northern Shrike (missed only once before), and was also absent during the count week. Pine Siskin and Barrow's Goldeneye were somewhat unexpected misses as well. Species found during count week, but not on the count itself include EARED GREBE, REDHEAD, RUDDY DUCK, CALIFORNIA GULL (only tallied on 3 previous counts), and GRAY JAY. There was also an unconfirmed report of YELLOW-HEADED BLACKBIRD during the count week. This species has never been recorded on the Bend count. SCRUB JAYS continue to expand around Bend, with a new record high of 99 (up from 86 last year). The prize for the most PINK FLAMINGOS tallied on the count went to Dean Hale et al. The Bend CBC remains the premiere count in Central Oregon, and it is only a matter of time before we break the 100 species mark! Craig & Marilyn Miller Bend CBC compilers crmiller@bendnet.com From celata at pacifier.com Wed Jan 1 13:07:07 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: gray Fox Sparrow References: Message-ID: <3E13587B.E677A4E6@pacifier.com> I don't have nearly enough letters after my name to be considered and authority, but... I think this was probably a female _unalaschcesis_. This form of sooty is very gray and washed out. Males can differ in size from females by 10-12%. I only seem to have a photo of a male... http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/observatory/sparrow/fosp2000021201.JPG I should also mention that while yellow or pinkish orange at the base of the lower mandible is a good mark for excluding the slaty form, lack of yellow in the lower mandible does not exclude the sooty form. Here's an individual (probably _sinuosa_) which shows a uniform dark-colored bill. > On yesterday's Dallas CBC Pat Gallagher and I saw a Fox Sparrow > of the gray interior race. The bill was small, and the entire > head, and back, as well as the streaking on the breast was > plain dark gray, set off sharply from the reddish color on > the extreme lower rump and tail. I didn't get a good look > at the wings as the bird remained partly hidden in the > blackberry bushes, but as it turned to fly away I was able to > clearly see the gray back and contrasting tail. > > > I would say that in general, even the Great Basin and Rocky > mountain "shistacea" form should not appear to have a particularly > small bill,and definately not with any of the Siskiyous or Cascades > birds. Also, I would not describe the upperparts as "dark" gray.... > In general, (and Mike Patterson is more of an authority on > I would approach identification of wintering FOSP to form with > extreme caution... the "sooty" forms are highly wintering > forms of FOSP), variable, and we don't see all of them all the > time down here. One thing that might help... the interior > birds I've banded almost never have even a slight hint of yellow > on the bill (young HY excepted)... these birds have very blue > bills.... -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From celata at pacifier.com Wed Jan 1 13:09:30 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: gray Fox Sparrow References: Message-ID: <3E13590A.3E3B77BE@pacifier.com> Forgot to add the URL for the second Fox Sparrow http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/observatory/sparrow/fosp2002041901.JPG -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From birdsong at harborside.com Wed Jan 1 13:35:09 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: people friendly.... Message-ID: <3E135F0D.2090908@harborside.com> We have noticed that certain species of shorebirds are very tame and permit close approach and seem fairly undisturbed by birder activity, while some other species are much more flightly and reluctant to come or get close. In particular Black-bellied Plovers are very flightly, wary, and do not permit close approach. We wondered why this was the case. Then I found out that Black-bellied Plovers are still hunted by Native Americans in northern Canada (maybe Alaska too). Makes sense.... Dave Lauten and Kathy Castelein Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From birdboy at bkpix.com Wed Jan 1 14:22:04 2003 From: birdboy at bkpix.com (Noah Strycker) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Creswell birds Message-ID: <002f01c2b1e4$394861e0$651e6c0c@Pcreswell> Obol, At the Creswell Sewage Ponds this morning: 1 PRAIRIE FALCON 1 WHITE-THROATED SPARROW 1 BALD EAGLE 1 COMMON GOLDENEYE 2 EARED GREBES 1 HOODED MERGANSER ...and about 40 TUNDRA SWANS visible in a field off to the north (Camas Swale). Good birding, Noah Strycker (east of Creswell) From garbledmodwit at yahoo.com Wed Jan 1 16:01:51 2003 From: garbledmodwit at yahoo.com (Tim Rodenkirk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Coos County 1/1/2003 Message-ID: <20030102000151.89388.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> While driving south of Coos Bay on Hwy 101, my wife Holly's eagle eye spotted a lone soaring TURKEY VULTURE. I'm not sure if this species has ever been seen in this county in January before. The earliest "spring" record was this past February, when birds were first seen migrating north on the 2nd. There are a few December records but only one from 30 years of Coos Bay CBC's- back in 1976. Nice New Year's surprise, Merry 2003! Tim R Coos Bay __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From winkg at hevanet.com Wed Jan 1 16:27:02 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: OBOL: Pittock, NW Portland, week ending 1/1/03 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030101161609.0210b3a0@pop.hevanet.com> Here is the summary of my morning dogwalks from NW Seblar Terrace to the Pittock Mansion for the week 12/26/02 to 1/1/03. Species in ALL CAPS were neither seen nor heard the previous week. Additional information about my dogwalk can be found at http://www.hevanet.com/winkg/dogwalkpage.html We did the walk 6 days this week. Species # days found (peak #, date) GREAT EGRET 1 (2, 12/31) Canada Goose 1 (23, 12/31) Sharp-shinned Hawk 2 (1, 12/30 & 31) Red-tailed Hawk 1 (1, 12/27) Gull sp. 2 (6, 12/30) Mourning Dove 2 (1, 12/27 & 29) Anna's Hummingbird 6 (3, 12/29) Downy Woodpecker 4 (2, 12/26 & 29) Hairy Woodpecker 2 (1, 12/26 & 29) Northern Flicker 5 (4, 12/29) Pileated Woodpecker 1 (1, 12/29) Golden-crowned Kinglet 3 (20, 12/30) Ruby-crowned Kinglet 4 (2) Bewick's Wren 2 (1) Winter Wren 5 (2) American Robin 6 (30, 12/29) Varied Thrush 5 (12, 12/30) Bushtit 2 (10) Black-capped Chickadee 6 (25, 1/1) Chestnut-backed Chickadee 6 (25, 12/30) Red-breasted Nuthatch 6 (4) Brown Creeper 2 (1) Steller's Jay 6 (6) Western Scrub-Jay 2 (1) American Crow 5 (15, 12/26) Hutton's Vireo 1 (1, 12/29) Spotted Towhee 6 (6, 12/31) Fox Sparrow 1 (1, 12/29) Song Sparrow 6 (15) Dark-eyed Junco 6 (30, 12/26 & 29) House Finch 6 (50, 12/26) Pine Siskin 5 (80, 12/26) Great Egret is a new species for my dogwalk. Wink Gross Portland winkg@hevanet.com From pamelaj at spiritone.com Wed Jan 1 16:32:13 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: BEND CBC highlights References: Message-ID: <003001c2b1f7$d0f74660$82c263d8@sburock> I was unaware that Bend was such a hotbed of Flamingo activity. Do you discriminate among the models of lawn flamingos, or are you guys lumpers? Happy New Year! Pamela Johnston The prize for the most PINK FLAMINGOS tallied on the count went to Dean Hale et al. > > Craig & Marilyn Miller > Bend CBC compilers > crmiller@bendnet.com > > > > From bogar at teleport.com Wed Jan 1 17:13:54 2003 From: bogar at teleport.com (Mike Bogar) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Common Goldeneye; Oaks Bottom, Portland Message-ID: <000301c2b1fd$f8636160$9d021ad8@bogar> A pair of COMMON GOLDENEYEs spent a lot of time in the middle of the pond at Oaks Bottom Wed afternoon. That's a darn good Portland area bird for me. (Maybe it wouldn't be if I spent less time on mountain trails in winter and did more winter-birding in the lowlands.) Other good birds were female HOODED MERGANSER and a Peregrine Falcon on the east side of the piond. 25 species total, not including generic gulls, in just over 2 hours of birding. I started the year/day with 9 species of yard-birds, including Chestnut-Backed Chickadee, which is not common in my Milwaukie neighborhood. A nice way to start the year. It almost compensates for not going skiing (xc) on the first day of the year. Mike Bogar bogar@teleport.com From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 1 19:34:12 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Brownsville CBC section results Message-ID: <20030102033412.23835.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com> Obolers, Paul Sullivan and I censused the portion of the Brownsville Circle located between I-5 and Highway 99 south of Halsey today. We found a total of 55 species. Best bird of the day was one ROSS' GOOSE at first light among roughly 500 TUNDRA SWANS. These birds were located just west of the intersection of Ogle Rd and Linn-West Rd. This location is just outside the circle but the same bird and same swans were also seen later on in the afternoon at the intersection of Lake Creek Dr and Center School Rd, inside the circle. Also seen at the afternoon location among the Tundra Swans was one immature TRUMPETER SWAN. Other good birds seen included one WHITE-THROATED SPARROW on Twin Buttes Dr, NORTHERN SHRIKES on Bond Butte Dr and North Coburg Rd near Daniels Airport, and one GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE along Cartney Dr. Great day of birding on the first of the year! Thanks Paul for joining me for the day :) Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Irons5 at aol.com Wed Jan 1 19:51:44 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: OBOL Re: Brownsville CBC Message-ID: <193.133f1c15.2b451150@aol.com> I'm sure that Jeff Harding will post a more complete report for the Brownsville CBC, but I thought I'd post some birds I saw today. I covered the Gap Road Rice Ponds and Center School, Belts Rd., Gap Rd. loop. For the second year in a row I found Say's Phoebe on Ranch Rd. Today's bird was right at the intersection of Center School Rd. and Ranch Rd. About 1/4 mile south of this intersection I found a adult Northern Shrike. I also had Golden Eagle near the intersection of Belts Rd and Tub Run Rd. The count found several good birds, including two species new to the count. The total species count was light due to low observer turnout (10 counters) and fairly windy overcast conditions all day long. Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From linda at fink.com Wed Jan 1 20:16:23 2003 From: linda at fink.com (Linda Fink) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Flicker damage-control Message-ID: We succeeded in discouraging flicker(s) from excavating hunks out of wood siding up by the eaves by hanging an inflatable snake up there. Well, we succeeded after filling the inflatable snake with insulating foam that hardens. Before that, the flicker pecked a hole in the snake, deflating it. Whether it (they) tried again and bent their beaks and that's what discouraged them or whether the initial deflating spooked them, I don't know, but they gave up pecking in that area. They liked that spot because a metal vent made a lovely, loud racket when they beat on it. Why they insisted on also gouging the wood siding, I don't know. No bugs that I'm aware of. Linda Fink From sjag2 at juno.com Wed Jan 1 20:49:47 2003 From: sjag2 at juno.com (Steven J/. Jaggers) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? Message-ID: <20030101.204947.-885535.0.sjag2@juno.com> Happy New Year Obol, I have not heard of more than a handful of Pine Siskins mentioned through work or on Obol.....are there more around? Steve Jaggers sjag2@juno.com From Sheilach at wave.net Wed Jan 1 20:50:42 2003 From: Sheilach at wave.net (sheila L.chambers) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Crop stuffing time Message-ID: The birds were out in hords and all starving and frantically stuffing their bottomless crops. Amongst the starving were-35 PINE SISKINS,16 WHITE CROWNED SPARROWS,3 FOX SPARROWS,1 poor,alone and jumpy DARK EYED JUNCO,1 nervous HOUSE SPARROW,4 HOUSE FINCHES,5 GOLDCROWN SPARROWS,1 testy SONG SPARROW,4 BREWERS BLACKBIRDS,2 BLACKCAPPED CHICKADEES and 1 CHESTNUT BACKED CHICKADEE taking turns grabbing one black oil sunflower seed or fighting over the suet amongst the 4 LESSER GOLDFINCHES,many fighting PINE SISKINS and 3 AMERICAN GOLDFINCHES. Hustling in the weeds for food was several AMERICAN ROBINS,1 SPOTTED TOWHEE,1 HERMIT THRUSH,1 NORTHERN FLICKER and 1 VARIED THRUSH. Hunting all this small fluff was one hungry SHARPSHINNED HAWK. The tiny ANNAS HUMMINGBIRD was still fighting off competitors from "it's feeder". Across the road in a dorment lily field were numberless MEADOWLARKS,2 GREAT BLUE HERONS,3 VARIED THRUSHES,and 4 AMERICAN ROBINS. Hanging on to the powerlines were a flock of BREWERS BLACKBIRDS and several STARLINGS. The one HOUSE SPARROW had a good reason to be nervous,I have trapped and "disposed" of 98 of those pests last year. There aren't so many to trap this year-heh heh heh!!! Sheila from wet and beautifull Brookings(Harbor) Oregon on the coast. From acontrer at mindspring.com Wed Jan 1 20:58:19 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The first of the season was at my feeder - just one, with goldfinches - yesterday December 31. They seem fairly common on the coast, but I have not seen any huge flocks anywhere. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon > From: "Steven J/. Jaggers" > Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:49:47 -0800 > To: "Obol" > Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? > > Happy New Year Obol, > > I have not heard of more than a handful of Pine Siskins mentioned through > work or on Obol.....are there more around? > > Steve Jaggers > sjag2@juno.com > From Sheilach at wave.net Wed Jan 1 20:58:37 2003 From: Sheilach at wave.net (sheila L.chambers) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Crop stuffing time Message-ID: > The birds were out in hords and all starving and frantically stuffing > their bottomless crops. > Amongst the starving were-35 PINE SISKINS,16 WHITE CROWNED SPARROWS,3 FOX > SPARROWS,1 poor,alone and jumpy DARK EYED JUNCO,1 nervous HOUSE SPARROW,4 > HOUSE FINCHES,5 GOLDCROWN SPARROWS,1 testy SONG SPARROW,4 BREWERS > BLACKBIRDS,2 BLACKCAPPED CHICKADEES and 1 CHESTNUT BACKED CHICKADEE taking > turns grabbing one black oil sunflower seed or fighting over the suet > amongst the 4 LESSER GOLDFINCHES,many fighting PINE SISKINS and 3 AMERICAN > GOLDFINCHES. > > Hustling in the weeds for food was several AMERICAN ROBINS,1 SPOTTED > TOWHEE,1 HERMIT THRUSH,1 NORTHERN FLICKER and 1 VARIED THRUSH. > > Hunting all this small fluff was one hungry SHARPSHINNED HAWK. > > The tiny ANNAS HUMMINGBIRD was still fighting off competitors from "it's > feeder". > > Across the road in a dorment lily field were numberless MEADOWLARKS,2 > GREAT BLUE HERONS,3 VARIED THRUSHES,one BLACK PHEOBE and 4 AMERICAN ROBINS. > Hanging on to the powerlines were a flock of BREWERS BLACKBIRDS and > several STARLINGS. > > The one HOUSE SPARROW had a good reason to be nervous,I have trapped and > "disposed" of 98 of those pests last year. > > There aren't so many to trap this year-heh heh heh!!! > > Sheila from wet and beautifull Brookings(Harbor) Oregon on the coast. From diane1042 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 1 21:13:35 2003 From: diane1042 at yahoo.com (Diane) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030102051335.86393.qmail@web12201.mail.yahoo.com> Steve, For what it's worth, in my Clackamas yard I have seen a drastic decline in Pine Siskins between 2001 and 2002. Between 11/13/2001 and 12/26/2001 I noted the birds in my yard on six days and the maximum # of Pine Siskins counted at any one time on those six days were: 28, 5, 14, 20, 3 and 0. This year (2002) I counted the yard birds 4 times between Nov. 13 and Dec. 23 and the maximum # of Pine Siskins observed at any one time were: 0, 0, 1 and 1. The lone Pine Siskin has appeared with a group of about 12 Lesser Goldfinches. In November and December 2001 I actually had more dead Pine Siskins (1 death by cat and 2 presumably by salmonella) than I've had in the yard this November and December. Diane diane1042@yahoo.com --- "Steven J/. Jaggers" wrote: > Happy New Year Obol, > > I have not heard of more than a handful of Pine > Siskins mentioned through > work or on Obol.....are there more around? > > Steve Jaggers > sjag2@juno.com > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From jmh at proaxis.com Wed Jan 1 21:51:06 2003 From: jmh at proaxis.com (Jeff and Patricia Harding) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Brownsville, Linn County CBC Message-ID: <000001c2b222$f23f1d90$e90a91c6@jeffcb0fcpbmk8> A good time was had by all on the Brownsville CBC today, made enjoyable by relatively mild weather and good company. Of course relative to the weather we enjoyed on the Bayocean Peninsula for the Tillamook count, the constant rain we had for the Coquille count was mild, and Brownsville was really very nice. But there was a certain amount of wind that kept the birds hunkered most of the morning, so we missed a few things. I appreciate Dave Irons' report and Jeff Fleisher's reporting what he and Paul Sullivan found. That makes my preliminary report easier Ten of us found only 82 species by our preliminary count, which seems a bit low. Two new birds were found, the Ross' Goose and two Lewis' Woodpeckers, on opposite sides of the circle. There were at least two Golden Eagles, And a Canvasback at the RV Park at Diamond Hill Road. Also at the RV Park, in a flock of at least 700 Dunlin was a very striking LEUCISTIC DUNLIN. It looked sort of light tan, or blond in flight, wheeling and turning with the others. On the rocks of the sewage lagoon, it was obviously a Dunlin, the same size and shape of the others, although it seemed on the large side, with the same long, decurved black bill as they all had, that perhaps on the long side. But instead of the grey and brown, it was more the color of a snow bunting, an off-white and tan. It had a light tan crown, and a tan line through the eye, to the auriculars, leaving a whitish superciliary line. I could see the same pattern in adjacent Dunlin, but much darker. Otherwise, my memory has it more or less evenly blond, perhaps lighter below than above. It was a striking bird. Cheers, Jeff Patricia and Jeff Harding "The seasons they are turning and my sad heart is yearning to hear again the songbird's sweet melodious tone." Bob Dylan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030101/d1c4d134/attachment.htm From dan-patw at worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 1 22:12:27 2003 From: dan-patw at worldnet.att.net (Dan Waldron) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: People friendly Birds Message-ID: <3E13D846.7FF427AB@worldnet.att.net> Seychelles Islands, about a 1000 miles off the East coast of Africa, NE of Madagascar in the Indian Ocean. It is a tropical marine paradise with many rare sea and land birds. One very small island, Cousin, was a bird sanctuary, and I was surprised at how friendly the birds were and how easy to photograph. Another island, Bird Island, noted for it's 1.5 million nesting Sooty Terns, was privately owned and the birds showed little fear of humans. On Mahe, the main island, birds were not as friendly to people. Many dogs and kids with guns may have been the reason. At the time we were there, in the 70's, the "Black Parrot" was thought to be extinct, until some kid shot one on Mahe. Both Florida and the Seychelles are tropically hot and maybe the birds don't want to move unless they really have too. Both Bird Island and Cousin Island were rarely visited, the birds were not fed by humans but you could get right next to them. I thought (to myself) that non aggressive humans contributed to friendly bird behavior, I thought that these "isolated" birds have not learned that humans can be a threat. Then again, maybe it depends on species. When getting out of my car in Salem to shop, I have to remind myself not to step on a Brewer's. Pat Waldron East of Scio Linn Co. Paul Sullivan wrote: > After birding Florida for one to two weeks per year for the last 8 > years, I am amazed at how "people-friendly" birds are there: especially > wading birds, but occasionally other species and groups as well. Does > anyone have any theories about why birds seem to be comparatively shy > here? Is is merely a matter of them becoming accustomed to people when > we start frequenting their habitats, or are their different behavior > patterns here versus Florida? From acontrer at mindspring.com Wed Jan 1 22:10:03 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: pale Dunlin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There is a similar leucistic Dunlin at Bandon Marsh; it gave me quite a shock when I scoped into it on the CBC. About the color of a winter Western Sandpiper above, showing more scalloping than an adult winter Dunlin normally would. I don't think it is a color-marked bird unless color marking has become very subtle. The last time I saw a color-marked Dunlin it was bright pink or orange, as I recall. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From jbw at pacifier.com Wed Jan 1 22:50:41 2003 From: jbw at pacifier.com (Barbara & John Woodhouse) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Pine siskins Message-ID: Siskins but we haven't seen one this year yet. Barbara Woodhouse Tillamook From edgert1 at attbi.com Wed Jan 1 23:06:43 2003 From: edgert1 at attbi.com (Ed McVicker and Gert Bernstein) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Cal. Quail at Trillium Lake Message-ID: <004701c2b22d$81738820$3525e00c@attbi.com> Yesterday (Tuesday) afternoon while walking along the trail into Trillium Lake (Mt. Hood/Clack. Co.) I was surprised to see six CALIFORNIA QUAIL fly across the trail and land under a nearby fir tree. They worked the area under the tree where the snow had been beaten down a bit before moving off further off the trail out of sight. I thought sure they would be Mountain Quail, but I was able get a good look at the little commaheads after digging my binoculars out of my pack. Ed McVicker Portland From hnehls at teleport.com Wed Jan 1 23:54:26 2003 From: hnehls at teleport.com (Harry Nehls) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: RBA: Portland, OR 1-2-03 Message-ID: - RBA * Oregon * Portland * January 2, 2003 * ORPO0301.02 - birds mentioned Pacific Loon Brown Pelican Turkey Vulture Ross's Goose Trumpeter Swan Eurasian Wigeon Eurasian Green-winged Teal Long-tailed Duck Common Goldeneye Ferruginous Hawk Sora Sandhill Crane RUFF Red Phalarope Anna's Hummingbird Say's Phoebe BLUE JAY Barn Swallow Palm Warbler American Tree Sparrow Red Fox Sparrow Lapland Longspur Brown-headed Cowbird - transcript hotline: Portland Oregon Audubon RBA (weekly) number: 503-292-6855 to report: Harry Nehls 503-233-3976 compiler: Harry Nehls coverage: entire state Hello, this is the Audubon Society of Portland Rare Bird Report. This report was made Thursday January 2. If you have anything to add call Harry Nehls at 503-233-3976. Two RUFFS continue to be seen in the Eugene area. BLUE JAYS were reported during the week at the Springtree Apartments in Bend, Portland, in Springfield, and in North Eugene. RED PHALAROPES and BROWN PELICANS are still scattered along the coast. The December 29 Port Orford Christmas Count recorded a SANDHILL CRANE, 33 LAPLAND LONGSPURS, and 30 PALM WARBLERS. An AMERICAN TREE SPARROW was near Coquille December 29; another is on the North Spit of Coos bay. On December 31 two PALM WARBLERS and two BARN SWALLOWS were on the North Spit. A TURKEY VULTURE was south of Coos Bay January 1. On December 25 six LONG-TAILED DUCKS were at the South Jetty of the Siuslaw River. A male COMMON GOLDENEYE is still being seen at the Dairy Queen in Astoria. On December 30 a EURASIAN GREEN-WINGED TEAL was at the base of Coon Point on Sauvie Island. Two PACIFIC LOONS are now along the Columbia River in North Portland. A ROSS'S GOOSE is now with the goose flocks in the Delta Park area of North Portland. A RED FOX SPARROW was at the Vanport Wetlands December 28. Two COMMON GOLDENEYES were at Oaks Bottom in Portland January 1. Three TRUMPETER SWANS and a SAY'S PHOEBE were in the Airlie area of Polk County December 29. A ROSS'S GOOSE was near Brownsville January 1. The December 29 Bend Count found an ANNA'S HUMMINGBIRD, a BLUE JAY, and seven COWBIRDS. Two RED PHALAROPES were at Hatfield Lake that day. A FERRUGINOUS HAWK, a SORA, and a EURASIAN GREEN-WINGED TEAL were on the December 31 Prineville Count. A EURASIAN WIGEON was at Hat Rock State Park east of Hermiston December 25. Thats it for this week. - end transcript From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Thu Jan 2 07:03:48 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? References: Message-ID: <001001c2b270$296d37a0$44aaa43f@hppav> They were found on the Grants Pass and Illinois Valley CBC's and there are several in our home area north of Grants Pass. They forage in alders (and those planted white birches) in the winter; try looking in alder riparian habitat. Dennis (north of Grants Pass) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven J/. Jaggers" To: "Obol" Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? > Happy New Year Obol, > > I have not heard of more than a handful of Pine Siskins mentioned through > work or on Obol.....are there more around? > > Steve Jaggers > sjag2@juno.com > From 5hats at peak.org Thu Jan 2 07:11:34 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? References: Message-ID: <000301c2b271$6b8126f0$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> OBOL, Please, may we not yet refer to the lack of siskins as a "decline"?. Many bird populations are cyclical, and the winter finches in addition are known to be irruptive and irregular. I haven't been seeing either siskins or crossbills, but six months from now the place may be crawling with both of them. It is very typical for siskins to be abundant one season and nearly non-existent the next. Darrel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" To: "Obol" Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: Re: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? > Steve, > > For what it's worth, in my Clackamas yard I have seen > a drastic decline in Pine Siskins between 2001 and > 2002. > > Between 11/13/2001 and 12/26/2001 I noted the birds in > my yard on six days and the maximum # of Pine Siskins > counted at any one time on those six days were: 28, 5, > 14, 20, 3 and 0. > > This year (2002) I counted the yard birds 4 times > between Nov. 13 and Dec. 23 and the maximum # of Pine > Siskins observed at any one time were: 0, 0, 1 and 1. > The lone Pine Siskin has appeared with a group of > about 12 Lesser Goldfinches. > > In November and December 2001 I actually had more dead > Pine Siskins (1 death by cat and 2 presumably by > salmonella) than I've had in the yard this November > and December. > > Diane > diane1042@yahoo.com > > > > --- "Steven J/. Jaggers" wrote: > > Happy New Year Obol, > > > > I have not heard of more than a handful of Pine > > Siskins mentioned through > > work or on Obol.....are there more around? > > > > Steve Jaggers > > sjag2@juno.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > From jgeier at attglobal.net Thu Jan 2 08:40:06 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? Message-ID: <3E146B66.7B7F21B3@attglobal.net> Hello birders, We have yet to see a Pine Siskin at our place on the Willamette Valley floor, SE Polk Co. But we are not feeding this year either (too many cats around). Pine Siskins were abundant along my route for the Coquille Valley CBC (Coos Co.) last weekend. I saw flocks of 25-40 birds at least four or five times, and probably underestimated the total by assuming some of those were repeat sightings of the same flocks. To speculate wildly, perhaps the very dry fall weather caused siskins to concentrate in different areas than they usually would, moving into areas with a good alder crop (as seemed to be the case along that corridor). As others have pointed out in years past, the availability of natural food in an area seems to be a main factor in determining how many birds are around to visit yard feeders. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From dan at heyerly.com Thu Jan 2 10:14:14 2003 From: dan at heyerly.com (Dan Heyerly) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: BLUE JAY still in Santa Clara area of Eugene/Lane co. 1/1/03 Message-ID: <000701c2b28a$c2248740$06fea8c0@knowledge1> January 2, 2003 (or if you are into numerology today's date is 1-2-3) Obolinks, The previously reported BLUE JAY seen from the north end of Altura St. (which is off Carthage Ave., which is west off of River Rd. in the Santa Clara area of northwest Eugene) was seen by me and Anne at 1230pm on January 1. It was in the wooded area west of and behind the vacant lot and the new house being built on Altura St. It was with a large group of jays (mostly Steller's and some W.Scrubs) and seemed to emerge out of the holly foliage that has enveloped a few of the trees in that small wooded area. A Merlin also briefly visited the area. We probably waited an hour and a half for the Blue Jay to finally emerge. It waited for Mark Rudolph to completely leave the county before emerging. It was vocalizing so that made it very easy to find once it started "talking". We checked out Stewart Pond (primarily the fencerow north of the photo hide) with Don and Linda DeWitt and Jim Carlson, but had no luck finding a Palm Warbler (even though the sun came out for a brief 15 minutes) or Ruff there. There were a few Greater Yellowlegs and dowitchers with a few dabblers in the shallow water. We then checked most of the muddy shorebird spots that had held the Ruffs in the last few days, but were unsuccessful in finding it/them. We also checked Amazon Flats and the end of Royal Ave. from before dusk to darkness and saw no Short-eared Owls. Northern Harriers were everywhere (I counted 16 at one time), one Red-shouldered Hawk was present, and several (minimum 7) White-tailed Kites were also there. No shrikes, but I understand someone saw one there earlier in the day. One Eurasian Wigeon male was with the wigeon flock at Amazon Flats. Dan Heyerly dan@heyerly.com From Irons5 at aol.com Thu Jan 2 10:25:06 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: OBOL Re: Siskins Message-ID: <15a.19bb03ca.2b45de02@aol.com> As Darrel Faxon pointed out, the numbers of siskins and many other "northern" finch species vary annually. Last year was an exceptional year for Pine Siskins and Common Redpolls moving south and into Oregon. This year I haven't heard any reports of Redpolls statewide and from my local birding it is quite apparent this is a "down" year for PIne Siskin numbers. I have only one decent flock (about 30 birds) around my local neighborhood this winter. Last winter there were about 3-4 flocks that size around the same area. One of the species that does seem to have irrupted this season is Red-breasted Nuthatch. I had 15 in my neighborhood on the Eugene CBC, while last year I only had a couple. The Sisters count had something like 680 (can't recall the exact number) which is almost certainly an all-time state record. Other species that are cyclical in winter appearance are, Red Crossbill, White-winged Crossbill, Evening Grosbeak and Purple Finch. Most of these species irrupt (on a minor scale) about every 2-3 years as a response to food supplies, or lack thereof. Over a longer time span, there are occasional "finch years" when major incursions of one or more of the species listed above occurs. Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From fschrock at macnet.com Thu Jan 2 10:44:52 2003 From: fschrock at macnet.com (Floyd Schrock) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? References: Message-ID: <001501c2b28f$0b53bd60$9c4efea9@onlinemac.com> I've been seeing scattered small groups (2 - 5) of PINE SISKINS in Yamhill Co., most recently along the Willamette River s. of Dayton. However, they are not yet coming to my feeders, and LESSER GOLDFINCHES are taking full advantage of their absence. ===================== Floyd Schrock McMinnville, Oregon USA fschrock@macnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven J/. Jaggers" To: "Obol" Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? > Happy New Year Obol, > > I have not heard of more than a handful of Pine Siskins mentioned through > work or on Obol.....are there more around? > > Steve Jaggers > sjag2@juno.com > From camgco32 at earthlink.net Thu Jan 2 11:06:55 2003 From: camgco32 at earthlink.net (John Lawes) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? Message-ID: <002a01c2b292$1f66df00$facbbb3f@camgco32earthlink.net> I've noticed that the numbers in our North Portland neighborhood are WAY down this year, but that may have as much to do with the fluctuation in bird-feeding as in birds. I did notice a small flock of 20 or so at Crystal Springs yesterday, high in the conifers. I wonder if this has to do with the mild winter as much as with reproductive success? J. Lawes camgco32@eathlink.net From Jriutta at leupold.com Thu Jan 2 11:33:14 2003 From: Jriutta at leupold.com (John Riutta) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Pine Siskins, new mystery bird Message-ID: A bit north of the valley, but I finally saw the first one in quite some time in our back yard in Scappoose. I've been regularly stocking the feeders through the winter, but yesterday House Finches, a Pine Siskin, and the first Varied Thrush ever seen (by my family) in the yard joined the usual flock of Black-capped and Chestnut-backed Chickadees, and Dark-eyed Juncos at the feeders. On a different subject, I have a bird sighting that has confounded my identification so I thought I'd ask for suggestions. December 31, 2002, I was on Honeyman Rd. in the Scappoose Bottoms area around 10:00 A.M. watching two California Quail, Song Sparrows, and trying to get a better look at what I suspect was a Cassin's Finch deep in a blackberry bramble when a grey bird perched atop the bramble. It appeared at first glance as a sparrow. Getting a good look at it, I noted it's shades-of-grey coloring, two faint white wing bars, clear pale breast but with long pale grey streaks all the way down the flanks. The head was unmarked with no dark ear patch. Eyes black with a very thin pale eye ring. Small pale beak, almost too small for a sparrow. The day was clear, the bird was in the sun, and I was using my best binoculars (Wind River 10x50mm P1) at fifteen feet. Any thoughts? John E. Riutta From diane1042 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 2 11:42:26 2003 From: diane1042 at yahoo.com (Diane) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? Message-ID: <20030102194226.91307.qmail@web12201.mail.yahoo.com> Please, may we not be so persnickety. Some on OBOL appear to be amateur bird watchers who try to get it right (Canada Geese not Canadian Geese). If the observations of amateurs are not of value, close the list so the birding experts can be rid of the nuisance. Otherwise, cut us some slack. By the way I made no conclusions other than to report my observations in my own yard, not the county, not the state. You'll note that I presented numbers and not anecdotal information. I belong to a number of mailing lists, some where I am considered an expert, others like OBOL where I'm just an interested novice. Despite the disparity in expertise, I've rarely seen the experts get discourteous when an amateur makes a gaffe as on OBOL. Diane Gonthier diane1042@yahoo.com --- Darrel Faxon <5hats@peak.org> wrote: > OBOL, > Please, may we not yet refer to the lack of > siskins as a "decline"?. > Many bird populations are cyclical, and the winter > finches in addition are > known to be irruptive and irregular. I haven't been > seeing either siskins > or crossbills, but six months from now the place may > be crawling with both > of them. It is very typical for siskins to be > abundant one season and > nearly non-existent the next. > > Darrel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diane" > To: "Obol" > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:13 PM > Subject: Re: Are there Pine Siskins in the > Willamette Valley? > > > > Steve, > > > > For what it's worth, in my Clackamas yard I have > seen > > a drastic decline in Pine Siskins between 2001 and > > 2002. > > > > Between 11/13/2001 and 12/26/2001 I noted the > birds in > > my yard on six days and the maximum # of Pine > Siskins > > counted at any one time on those six days were: > 28, 5, > > 14, 20, 3 and 0. > > > > This year (2002) I counted the yard birds 4 times > > between Nov. 13 and Dec. 23 and the maximum # of > Pine > > Siskins observed at any one time were: 0, 0, 1 and > 1. > > The lone Pine Siskin has appeared with a group of > > about 12 Lesser Goldfinches. > > > > In November and December 2001 I actually had more > dead > > Pine Siskins (1 death by cat and 2 presumably by > > salmonella) than I've had in the yard this > November > > and December. > > > > Diane > > diane1042@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > --- "Steven J/. Jaggers" wrote: > > > Happy New Year Obol, > > > > > > I have not heard of more than a handful of Pine > > > Siskins mentioned through > > > work or on Obol.....are there more around? > > > > > > Steve Jaggers > > > sjag2@juno.com > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From fruitbat at marge.cyber-dyne.com Thu Jan 2 12:04:08 2003 From: fruitbat at marge.cyber-dyne.com (Fruitbat the Unflappable) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Pine Siskins are all here in Cottage Grove ;) I didn't see any till late November, and some days there are only a few and some days none, but some days, especially this past week, I've counted over 3 dozen in my (smallish suburban) backyard. I'll count them more carefully this week. Kimberly Borrowdale fruitbat@cyber-dyne.com Cottage Grove OR "I'll take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." -- Douglas Adams, _Salmon of Doubt_ From fruitbat at marge.cyber-dyne.com Thu Jan 2 12:10:42 2003 From: fruitbat at marge.cyber-dyne.com (Fruitbat the Unflappable) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Mystery Bird thanks! Message-ID: The consenus was that my Kinglet or Vireo is a Kinglet, and I was able to confirm this morning: 1 RUBY-CROWNED KINGLET, hopping all over my maple tree! I was able to see its definite black wing bar, and since I was told that the wing-flicking was camera shudder speed, I was able to see it -- I guess I'd been looking for something slower/more deliberate, like a mockingbird would do. To a newbie like me, all your info was a great example of two birds that look similar but act differently. Thanks for all your help! Kimberly Borrowdale fruitbat@cyber-dyne.com Cottage Grove OR "I'll take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." -- Douglas Adams, _Salmon of Doubt_ From adamus7 at attbi.com Thu Jan 2 12:16:36 2003 From: adamus7 at attbi.com (paul adamus) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Invite to a mid-Willamette CBC Message-ID: <008b01c2b29b$da59fa00$a041e10c@attbi.com> OBOLers -- This Sunday, the 5th, is the last day of this year's Christmas Bird Counts. There are just 2 Oregon counts on that day -- Florence and Airlie-Albany. As coordinator of the latter, I'm providing directions in case you want to join us for all or part of the day -- please show up at 7:00 AM: From garbledmodwit at yahoo.com Thu Jan 2 12:17:59 2003 From: garbledmodwit at yahoo.com (Tim Rodenkirk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Pine Siskins- Coos Bay Message-ID: <20030102201759.86759.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com> We had 131 Pine Siskins on the Coos Bay CBC on December 15th. Our 30 year median is 173, so the number we observed was about 25% less than normal. Here are the total number of this species the last several years on our CBC: 1997- 97 (97/173= 56% of normal) 1998- 114 (114/173= 66%) 1999- 25 (25/173= 14%) 2000- 630 (630/173= 364%) 2001- 154 (154/173= 89%) 2002- 131 (131/173= 76%) These numbers show a fair amount of variation from year to year (especially note the 1999/2000 numbers). Of course these numbers are subject to variation caused by weather factors and total observer numbers, but they are still fun to compare. Happy New Bird, Tim R Coos Bay __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 2 12:49:49 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com (J. Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Submit your 2002 listing results Message-ID: <20030102204949.49681.qmail@web13601.mail.yahoo.com> It's that time of year again! See the form in the latest edition of Oregon Birds for the categories. Note that the threshold for automatic carry-over of State Life Lists has been raised to 400. Refer to ABA listing rules for what is or is not countable. (See: http://www.americanbirding.org/resources/reslistru2.htm for the rules and interpretation of them) There are 3 ways to submit your 2002 Oregon listing results: -Email them directly to me. If county listing results are included, please organize them alphabetically. -Use the form in the latest edition of Oregon Birds and snail mail it to me -Enter them at the listing website (URL to be posted to obol soon) I acknowledge receipt of ALL results sent by email or via the website. (If you enter both life and year results on the web you should receive acknowledgement of both.) Please send me your results by February 15th. Questions before then are welcome. Jamie Corvallis woodpecker97330@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From celata at pacifier.com Thu Jan 2 13:14:52 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Submit your 2002 listing results References: Message-ID: <3E14ABCC.8EAE2E9D@pacifier.com> Has the latest OB arrived? If so, when? -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 2 13:24:31 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com (J. Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Submit your 2002 listing results In-Reply-To: <3E14ABCC.8EAE2E9D@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <20030102212431.68848.qmail@web13605.mail.yahoo.com> Mike, et al., I was referring to the issue of Oregon Birds that I received sometime between 2 and 5 weeks ago, with a Pileated Woodpecker photo on the cover. Jamie --- Mike Patterson wrote: > Has the latest OB arrived? If so, when? > > -- > Mike Patterson > Astoria, OR > celata@pacifier.com > > A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him > hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness > that amazes those with ears who hear not. > > -Neltje Blanchan > > > http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Thu Jan 2 13:44:48 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Loony Day Message-ID: <003801c2b2a8$2e2c4be0$58aba43f@hppav> Visited the ponds at the Roguelea Trailer Park today (off Roguelea Lane, off Lower River Road, west of Grants Pass, Josephine Co.). If anyone wishes to visit this area, let me know and can send better directions; be advise it is a "senior" park. Birders have been welcomed in the past, but should respectful the residents. To my Surprise, were 2 RED-THROATED LOONS (my 1st for the County, how's that for starting off the new year). They were with 1 PACIFIC LOON; all were viewed close in (small ponds). ...also one GREEN HERON Was able to compare these Loon species when they were right next to one another. What a treat! The Red-throated were slightly shorter in length, more grayish overall, not a sharp contract between light and darker colors of the head/neck, with "spots" on their lighter colored backs. The Pacific was slightly longer, noticeably darker with only a slight hint of "spots" on the back (perhaps an immature), more sharp a line between the white and dark colors in the head/neck...and a dark "chin strap." Dennis (north of Grants Pass) From birdsong at harborside.com Thu Jan 2 14:24:52 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: OBOL Re: Siskins References: Message-ID: <3E14BC34.9050504@harborside.com> Irons5@aol.com wrote: > > One of the species that does seem to have irrupted this season is > Red-breasted Nuthatch. I had 15 in my neighborhood on the Eugene CBC, while > last year I only had a couple. The Sisters count had something like 680 > (can't recall the exact number) which is almost certainly an all-time state > record. > Not so on the coast for Red-breasted Nuthatches. They are nearly absent. If I am correct, a whopping total of 1 was counted on the Coquille CBC. So they may have been on the move, but that move did not extend to the coast. My general observations also indicate that there are no Red-breasted Nuthatches around this year. Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com > Other species that are cyclical in winter appearance are, Red Crossbill, > White-winged Crossbill, Evening Grosbeak and Purple Finch. Most of these > species irrupt (on a minor scale) about every 2-3 years as a response to food > supplies, or lack thereof. Over a longer time span, there are occasional > "finch years" when major incursions of one or more of the species listed > above occurs. > > Dave Irons > irons5@aol.com > Eugene, OR > > > > From Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us Thu Jan 2 14:19:10 2003 From: Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Gull photo Message-ID: <3514F6D1DB66D311809D009027856D0801044EF5@mercury.osac.state.or.us> Check out the "Semi-Glaucous" photo here. http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/gallery.htm Alan L. Contreras From greg at thebirdguide.com Thu Jan 2 14:51:36 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (Greg Gillson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Gull photo Message-ID: <001d01c2b2b1$82742340$9bb2efd8@guide> This appears to be a Herring x Glaucous hybrid, the so-called "Nelson's Gull." Oregon birders should take note of the general Glaucous Gull-like body, but the black tip reaching in along the cutting edge of the smaller bill as in Herring Gull. I've seen a couple of birds like this before--both on the coast and inland. Another hybrid, that is being reported more and more, is Glaucous-winged x Herring. Something like 50 birds were reported in Monterey from a pelagic trip this fall. Greg Gillson Cornelius, Oregon greg@thebirdguide.com http://thebirdguide.com From: "Alan Contreras" Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:19:10 -0800 Check out the "Semi-Glaucous" photo here. http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/gallery.htm Alan L. Contreras From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Thu Jan 2 14:52:27 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: OBOL Re: Siskins References: Message-ID: <000b01c2b2b1$a18e2c80$b6aaa43f@hppav> There were 2 Red-breasted Nuthatches found on the Coquille Valley CBC; not a record by any means. The results for this count are now available on the Audubon Webpage. Dennis > > Not so on the coast for Red-breasted Nuthatches. They are nearly > absent. If I am correct, a whopping total of 1 was counted on the > Coquille CBC. So they may have been on the move, but that move did not > extend to the coast. My general observations also indicate that there > are no Red-breasted Nuthatches around this year. > > Dave Lauten > Bandon OR > birdsong@harborside.com > > > > > > Other species that are cyclical in winter appearance are, Red Crossbill, > > White-winged Crossbill, Evening Grosbeak and Purple Finch. Most of these > > species irrupt (on a minor scale) about every 2-3 years as a response to food > > supplies, or lack thereof. Over a longer time span, there are occasional > > "finch years" when major incursions of one or more of the species listed > > above occurs. > > > > Dave Irons > > irons5@aol.com > > Eugene, OR > > > > > > > > > > > > From garbledmodwit at yahoo.com Thu Jan 2 14:52:31 2003 From: garbledmodwit at yahoo.com (Tim Rodenkirk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: RB Nuthatches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030102225231.16883.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> We had 10 Red-breasted Nuthatches on the Coos Bay CBC, our 30 yr. median is only 4. Also, I had at least 2 myself on the Port Orford CBC. Thus, I would speculate that this may be a species that is normally present but in very low numbers, low enough that they may not be readily detected although they are around. Several years ago we had an irruptive year and they were everywhere- these tend to be the years everyone notices them and compares subsequent years to, which is probably misleading. That's my two bits. Tim R Cooooooos Bay --- KACastelein and DJLauten wrote: > > > Irons5@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > One of the species that does seem to have irrupted > this season is > > Red-breasted Nuthatch. I had 15 in my > neighborhood on the Eugene CBC, while > > last year I only had a couple. The Sisters count > had something like 680 > > (can't recall the exact number) which is almost > certainly an all-time state > > record. > > > > > Not so on the coast for Red-breasted Nuthatches. > They are nearly > absent. If I am correct, a whopping total of 1 was > counted on the > Coquille CBC. So they may have been on the move, > but that move did not > extend to the coast. My general observations also > indicate that there > are no Red-breasted Nuthatches around this year. > > Dave Lauten > Bandon OR > birdsong@harborside.com > > > > > > Other species that are cyclical in winter > appearance are, Red Crossbill, > > White-winged Crossbill, Evening Grosbeak and > Purple Finch. Most of these > > species irrupt (on a minor scale) about every 2-3 > years as a response to food > > supplies, or lack thereof. Over a longer time > span, there are occasional > > "finch years" when major incursions of one or more > of the species listed > > above occurs. > > > > Dave Irons > > irons5@aol.com > > Eugene, OR > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From philliplc at harborside.com Thu Jan 2 15:26:19 2003 From: philliplc at harborside.com (Phil Pickering) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Gull photo References: Message-ID: <001001c2b2b6$5b647f20$6401a8c0@byron> Head shape suggest Glaucous-winged genes to me. Also, from what I've seen, my guess is that Herring's dark primary/secondary pigmentation is a dominant trait in Herring x Glaucous, and this bird is pretty clean white there - while still pretty dusky on the belly and not showing any significant wear. For whatever it's worth, it also may just be a Glaucous showing signs of latent ancestral introgression with Glaucous-winged (or something else) rather than a recent hybrid. The gene situation with advancing and receding populations over the course of centuries is probably quite complex. May be best not to think too hard about it, I usually hurt my brain when I do. Phil > This appears to be a Herring x Glaucous hybrid, the so-called "Nelson's > Gull." Oregon birders should take note of the general Glaucous Gull-like > body, but the black tip reaching in along the cutting edge of the smaller > bill as in Herring Gull. I've seen a couple of birds like this before--both > on the coast and inland. From luckiamute57 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 2 15:50:48 2003 From: luckiamute57 at yahoo.com (Sean Burgett) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: Dallas CBC results Message-ID: <20030102235048.44717.qmail@web20709.mail.yahoo.com> Eight people attended the Dallas CBC on Dec. 31st. Even with the small number of birders the group did manage to get 96 species in pleasent winter conditions. Some of the better species were Red Phalarope, Mountain Quail, Wrentit, Hermit Thrush, Grey Jay, Virginia Rail, Spotted Owl, and Barred Owl. The Red Phalarope, Virginia Rail and Spotted Owl were new to the count species. Thanks to everyone that took part in the count. Sean Burgett __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From luckiamute57 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 2 15:57:11 2003 From: luckiamute57 at yahoo.com (Sean Burgett) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: White-tailed Kite Airlie Rd. Message-ID: <20030102235712.26688.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com> I observed a White-tailed Kite this afternoon just southeast of where Tartar Rd. intersects Airlie Rd.. Has anyone seen the ones that are between Gardner Rd., Hy.223, and Falls City Rd. recently? We missed them on the Dallas CBC. Sean Burgett __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Thu Jan 2 16:56:04 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: CV Red-breasted Nuthatches Message-ID: <001f01c2b2c2$e54e2ae0$37aaa43f@hppav> Not sure this made it to OBOL, if so...sorry for the repeat. There were 2 Red-breasted Nuthatches found on the Coquille Valley CBC; not a record by any means. The results for this count are now available on the Audubon Webpage. Dennis From 5hats at peak.org Thu Jan 2 19:06:53 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: siskins Message-ID: <000401c2b2d6$93757890$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> OBOL Not being a particularly sensitive person, I had no idea anyone was going to be offended by my comment on siskins. My apolgies to you, Diane. Actually, I had seen the word decline used in another post as well, so please do not think the comment was an attack on you personally. I just wanted to bring up the fact that a small amount of data does not a decline make. Darrel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030102/865ad823/attachment.htm From 5hats at peak.org Thu Jan 2 19:15:07 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: more gull questions Message-ID: <000501c2b2d6$94cccb30$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> Obol, A few weeks back someone reported an adult Slaty-backed Gull from Siletz Bay. This post in no was is intended to be a commentary on that sighting as to its validity or anything else, but I do have some questions which stem from my search for the bird the following Sunday afternoon. That day there were a number of darker than usual Western Gulls present. I watched one of them fly from the north side of the bay to the roof of a restaurant overlooking the bay. As the bird prepared to land, I could plainly see that two of the primaries had subterminal white markings, similar to what one would expect to see on a Slaty-backed. In every other respect, the bird was typically a Western Gull. Recently I was looking at the Sibley guide and noticed that he shows Glaucous-winged Gull as showing the same basic pattern of white subterminal markings in the primaries as Slaty-backed shows. Is it possible that a Western xGlaucous-winged hybrid, or backcross thereof, could show the same pattern, or at least vestiges of it? I wouldn't expect such a bird to be that dark, but what do I know? If I had the answer I wouldn't be asking the question. Darrel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030102/1606435b/attachment.htm From philliplc at harborside.com Thu Jan 2 19:48:50 2003 From: philliplc at harborside.com (Phil Pickering) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:35 2004 Subject: more gull questions References: Message-ID: <000c01c2b2db$079ce560$6401a8c0@byron> Many Western x Glaucous-winged show subterminal white tongues on most of the primaries (string of pearls) similar to Slaty-backed. From floati at earthlink.net Thu Jan 2 19:42:09 2003 From: floati at earthlink.net (Hydie Lown) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: 100 siskins in So Lane County Message-ID: <007701c2b2da$30230010$b5c1bf3f@wrk01> I saw a flock of about 100 Pine Siskins this morning near home between Cottage Grove and Creswell, south of Eugene. I didn't know it was a big deal until I checked OBOL! I have been seeing and hearing small flocks of siskins for the past few weeks, but none have visited the feeder, leading me to believe they are finding plenty of food in the trees, and don't need us at the moment. We saw two Pine Siskins at a feeder near Skinner Butte on the Eugene CBC. Hydie Lown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030102/aab67cf0/attachment.htm From floati at earthlink.net Thu Jan 2 19:45:37 2003 From: floati at earthlink.net (Hydie Lown) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Eurasian Wigeon-common as dirt in West Eugene Message-ID: <008501c2b2da$94ae9800$b5c1bf3f@wrk01> Today, January 2, I found one Eurasian Wigeon each at Stewart Pond on the Amazon wetlands at the corner of Royal and Greenhill, in west Eugene. Hydie Lown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030102/17de0116/attachment.htm From bcombs at OregonVOS.net Thu Jan 2 22:14:26 2003 From: bcombs at OregonVOS.net (Barbara J. Combs) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Are there Pine Siskins in the Willamette Valley? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My group of two found over 200 PINE SISKINS on the Brownsville CBC Jan. 1, mainly in two large flocks. They were in woodsy areas in the foothills of the Cascades, foraging in conifers for seeds in cones. Steven J/. Jaggers wrote: > Happy New Year Obol, > > I have not heard of more than a handful of Pine Siskins mentioned through > work or on Obol.....are there more around? > > Steve Jaggers > sjag2@juno.com > Barbara Combs obie '70 Eugene, OR bcombs@orednet.org From areid at bossig.com Thu Jan 2 22:37:15 2003 From: areid at bossig.com (Alan Reid) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Siskins Message-ID: <005d01c2b2f2$8ebee4a0$cd9f08d0@LorenaReid> On Dec. 26 I think a big flock of Pine Siskins passed through above our place, circling a couple of times. I say "I think" because they were too high to see anything except size & flight pattern. They also sounded like Siskins. Alan Reid areid@bossig.com 17.5 mile post on McKenzie Hwy. 2 miles west of Leaburg From linda at fink.com Thu Jan 2 22:40:45 2003 From: linda at fink.com (Linda Fink) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: red crossbills -- Yamhill Co. Message-ID: After listening to tapes to cement the sounds of western bluebirds vs. mountain bluebirds in my head so I could listen intelligently when I went later on to look for Quinton's Sheridan mt. bluebird, I stepped outside to head for the barn and morning chores and heard a bevy of loud, sharp, kip kip kip sounds. Of course, I had bluebirds on the brain but realized these were not soft, downward-slurred bluebird notes of any variety. I couldn't see the buggers but there was a whole flock of them somewhere close. Finally saw one little bird at the very top of a nearby tree -- grabbed the binocs -- red head, back, front, apparent black line through eye, notched tail, big bill. By then there was only one kip kip kip -- others already gone. This one didn't stay much longer. I never could tell if the bill was crossed -- I didn't know how easy that should be to see when the bird is quite some distance away in the top of a tree. ??? I went back in the house and listened to the tapes -- red crossbill yes! First time ever saw/heard them here, though I've always thought they should be around since we have a hedge of well-stressed young doug and noble firs that produce lots of cones every year. Did not find the Sheridan bluebird. I was there between 12:30 and 1 p.m. Linda Fink, SW corner of Yamhill Co., near Grand Ronde From linda at fink.com Fri Jan 3 09:15:18 2003 From: linda at fink.com (Linda Fink) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: new list on bird behavior Message-ID: Anyone interested in discussing bird behavior in more detail than generally happens on OBOL is invited to join a new list I just created on the dreaded yahoo groups site. To subscribe, send a message to: OBOLB-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Or go to groups.yahoo.com and search for OBOLB (OBOL Behavior -- hmm, strange acronym. Oh well.) This list is directed primarily toward discussions of wild bird behavior, but insights gleaned from observations of pet bird behavior will not be put down. Newbies to the birding world are welcome to ask any question they feel uncomfortable asking on OBOL. (Why *do* those brown creepers circle the tree then fly to the bottom of the next one and start up again?) It is an open list, but if spammers invade, I'll close it and start another that is restricted. I hope those of you who are interested in exploring bird behavior in some detail will join. I would suggest using the digest mode, since we will not be posting rare bird sightings that need immediate attention. Digest mode disallows attachments (i.e. viruses.) Hope to see you on OBOLB! Linda Fink From jgeier at attglobal.net Fri Jan 3 10:09:52 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Oregon bird ranges and global climate change Message-ID: <3E15D1F0.F1982F9E@attglobal.net> Hello birders, Now that even the conservative politicians have acknowledged that anthropogenic global climate change (or global warming, in the popular parlance) is factual, and the only political debate is whether action to mitigate the consequences is economically sensible, perhaps we as birders can say this is no longer a "political hot topic." Instead we might begin to sensibly discuss this as a possible cause behind some of the range shifts for Oregon birds that we are seeing on the scale of decades -- mindful of course of more short-term phenomena like El Nino that can affect year-to-year distributions. "Weather is not climate!" as my regional hydrologist friends are fond of saying. This article from the New York Times, January 2, 2004, may be of interest in that context: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/02/science/02CLIM.html The article summarizes results of an extensive study that has been published in the January 2 issue of Nature. Two interesting tidbits for birders are the findings that, of the invertebrates studied, ranges are on average creeping toward the poles at a rate of about 4 miles per decade, while spring events like egg dates and tree flowering dates are advancing by 2.3 days per decade. I gather that the Nature article also discusses mountaintop species, which might be of particular interest to birders who go looking for boreal-zone species every year. With that in mind, I am going out to look for my first Turkey Vulture of the year. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From mklittletree at attbi.com Fri Jan 3 10:32:07 2003 From: mklittletree at attbi.com (Michel Kleinbaum) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Ankeny Message-ID: <000701c2b356$6c527da0$47a7e70c@attbi.com> At Wigeon Marsh, yesterday, 3 male EURASIAN WIGEONS were among the 100's CANADA GEESE, PINTAILS, AMERICAN WIGEONS and GREEN-WINGED TEALS. One male of these TEALS had neither the vertical nor the horizontal white bar of the Green-wing or the Eurasian sps. With these waterfowl were 3000+/- DUNLINS and near 100 LONG-BILLED DOWITCHERS. Happy New Year to all! Michel Kleinbaum South Salem From jeffgill at teleport.com Fri Jan 3 13:32:27 2003 From: jeffgill at teleport.com (Jeff Gilligan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Vancouver Canada Geese (Yamhill Co.) - where. Message-ID: I have long been interested in a purely scientific way in the Vancouver Canada Geese that are said to winter somewhere in Yamhill County. Does anyone have any ideas where to look? Tom Love? Floyd Schrock? (As an aside, the Washington Bean Goose was said to have been with a small flock of Vancouver Canadas, and has departed the Grays Harbor area.) Feel free to respond to me directly so as not to burden the rest of OBOL with this scientific stuff. Jeff. From fontaine_joe at hotmail.com Fri Jan 3 14:58:26 2003 From: fontaine_joe at hotmail.com (Joe Fontaine) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Benton Co Long-tailed Duck Message-ID: OBOLers, Hightlights from quick stops at a couple of spots this afternoon... Finley NWR: COMMON GOLDENEYE 2 males (1 ad, 1 imm) WHITE-TAILED KITE 1 a surprising number of SCAUP and RING-NECKED DUCKS Philomath STP: EARED GREBE 1 CANVASBACK 1 GREATER SCAUP 1-3 indiv **LONG-TAILED DUCK 1 imm/female (in the middle of the second pond) Good Birding, Joe ------------ Joe Fontaine Corvallis, OR _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From tshelmerdine at yahoo.com Fri Jan 3 16:18:01 2003 From: tshelmerdine at yahoo.com (Tim Shelmerdine) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Oregon bird ranges and global climate change In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030104001801.13013.qmail@web10904.mail.yahoo.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030103/d0270e17/attachment.htm From polktice at juno.com Fri Jan 3 16:36:59 2003 From: polktice at juno.com (William A Tice) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Polk County 1/3 Message-ID: <20030103.163703.-3621421.2.Polktice@juno.com> Hi Folks, Spent much of the day birding locally. No really good birds, but had a fun day. No kites at the usual place near Maple Grove. A small consolation was 2 TRUMPETER SWANS. At the farm pond along Oak Hill Rd were 3 CANVASBACKS (Sorry Roy, but I guess they did not want fo enter the county until after the 1st). BSNWR was full to the brim with waterfowl. A PEREGRINE FALCON was checking them out from a perch. There was also an imm WHITE TAILED KITE there as well, and also an imm BALD EAGLE. Along Livermore Rd were 2 THAYERS GULLS. West of Perrydale was a flock of shorebirds containing 9 GREATER YELLOWLEGS, not too bad for a mid-winter number. I was hoping for at least one rare bird to start the year off, but guess not. The HORNED LARK flock along Livermore was not there, so neither were the Longspurs. Bill ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From jgeier at attglobal.net Fri Jan 3 17:04:42 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: E.E. Wilson Wildife Area - Swamp Sparrow, prob. Red Crossbill Message-ID: <3E16332A.15680A3C@attglobal.net> Hello birders, In scouting the north end of E.E. Wilson Widlife Area (NE Benton Co.) for the upcoming Airlie CBC, today I relocated a SWAMP SPARROW in the same general area where one has been hanging around since late October. Also of note was what I'm almost positive was a single female/imm RED CROSSBILL flying from trees in this same area -- largeish finch-type bird with forked tail, "chip-chip" call as it flew over. I have never seen one in this neighborhood before, but I see Alan McGie has them on the list for the wildlife area. LESSER GOLDFINCHES were also in the area, as noted previously by Matt Hunter. On a negative note, I did not manage to detect ANY White-throated Sparrows, despite working over the areas where numbers were found earlier in the winter. With the water up, things are rather different in those areas. I hope someone else has better luck on count day. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From dan-patw at worldnet.att.net Fri Jan 3 17:02:01 2003 From: dan-patw at worldnet.att.net (Dan Waldron) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Lone Pine Siskin Message-ID: <3E163288.8D851232@worldnet.att.net> Dear Obol, Today, 1-3, I heard my first Pine Siskin in a while. It was confirmed with binos when he visited my feeder this afternoon. Yesterday I saw 20 Meadowlarks, east of Scio, east of the Jordan Bridge off Hwy. 226, on Jordan Dr, near the Top Hat Mushroom driveway. I rarely see them anymore because many grass seed farmers have taken out hedgerows. These birds were in a grass seed field, and flew back to a cow pasture that slopes to Thomas Creek. Also heard this morning, a Pileated Woodpecker. Good Birding, Pat Waldron East of Scio Linn Co. From mmarvin at hevanet.com Fri Jan 3 17:46:25 2003 From: mmarvin at hevanet.com (Marcia Marvin) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: RFI - Burlington Bottoms, Columbia(?) County Message-ID: <3E163CD8.87EBA416@hevanet.com> During my volunteer stint at Audubon Society of Portland today I had a question regarding Burlington Bottoms. Where/how does one access it? Is it a public viewing area? Are there ever trips scheduled in the area? Many thanks for any information. Marcia -- * Marcia Marvin * mmarvin@hevanet.com * Portland, OR, USA * From greg at thebirdguide.com Fri Jan 3 18:01:45 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (Greg Gillson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Golden Plover photo ID Message-ID: <004001c2b395$4352e400$b0b3efd8@guide> I have placed 2 Golden-Plover photos from this fall on my web site. These were taken at Agate Lake, by Jim Livaudais. I believe that at the time they were identified as Pacific Golden-Plover, but several people looking at the photos say it is American Golden-Plover. I'm not sure. Please take a look and make sure to copy Steve Dowlan (FoxSparrows@aol.com) in your reply, as editor of Oregon Birds where these photos are scheduled to appear. Photos are at: http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover%202.jpg http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover.jpg Thank you, Greg Gillson Cornelius, Oregon greg@thebirdguide.com http://thebirdguide.com From newhouse at efn.org Fri Jan 3 19:23:32 2003 From: newhouse at efn.org (Bruce Newhouse) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Oregon bird ranges and global climate change References: Message-ID: <3E1653B4.1CF1504C@efn.org> Actually, the last 4 or 5 mild winters (including this one), they are overwintering as far north as Eugene (Lane County). I believe in the west Eugene area there have been up to 3 or 4 each year. Anyone else picking them up much north of here throughout the winter? Bruce Newhouse in Eugene Tim Shelmerdine wrote: > I look forward to finding a copy of Nature and reading this article. > > For what it is worth, I already did record my earliest Turkey Vulture > in Oregon on New Year's Day. What would likely make this less > impressive is that I saw it just south of Hwy 199 in Grants Pass. I > would guess they occasionally overwinter in Josephine County. Dennis > V.? > > Tim From WeberHome at att.net Fri Jan 3 19:58:09 2003 From: WeberHome at att.net (Cliff & Joanne) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Burlington Bottoms Message-ID: OBOL; Hello! Burlington Bottoms is located in Portland just a bit west of the Sauvie Island bridge. [See 2003 Portland Thomas Guide page 535 squares A21, and A28] The property is owned by Bonneville Power, and the land across the tracks is not open to the general public so don't get caught trespassing down there. Cliff & Joanne Beaverton — From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 3 20:08:35 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Linn County - Brownsville area Message-ID: <20030104040835.15481.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com> Obolers, Took advantage of a descent afternoon to check things out today around Brownsville. Best birds of the day were a SAYS PHOEBE at Ward Butte on Manning RD at the "coral" area on the south edge of the Butte and the LEWIS' WOODPECKER at the intersection of Forry Dr and Brownsville Rd. Tried to relocate the Ranch Dr SAPH that Dave Irons found on the CBC but was unsuccessful. Also tried to relocate the Ross' Goose that Paul Sullivan and I found on the CBC but did not find that either. There were about 200 TUNDRA SWANs at the intersection of Lake Creek Dr and Gap Rd, about half the flock that we saw on count day. Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From philliplc at harborside.com Fri Jan 3 20:35:17 2003 From: philliplc at harborside.com (Phil Pickering) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Boiler Bay Message-ID: <022701c2b3aa$af42d480$6501a8c0@byron> Overcast, wind SE 5-10 mph, 8-10 ft swells. 120 Red-throated Loons 5+ Pacific Loons 10 Common Loons 6 Red-necked Grebes 10 Western Grebes 1 Brown Pelican 40 Brandt's Cormorants 100 Pelagic Cormorants (most in raft off the point) 150 Black Scoters (most in small groups S) 50 White-winged Scoters (most S) 80 Surf Scoters (most S) 10 Mew Gulls 5+ California Gulls 20+ Herring Gulls 2+ Thayer's Gulls 80 Western Gulls 60 Glaucous-winged Gulls 500+ Common Murres (on water or S) 7 Pigeon Guillemots (groups of 3 S, 4 in surf) 19 Marbled Murrelets (on the water or S) 1 Ancient Murrelet (S) 1 Cassin's Auklet (S) Phil philliplc@harborside.com From celata at pacifier.com Fri Jan 3 20:53:05 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Fwd: "Seagull" at Clover Point - ID confirmation? Message-ID: <3E16688B.28037C6D@pacifier.com> Somebody want to help Michael out with this gull? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: "Seagull" at Clover Point - ID confirmation? Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:08:42 -0800 From: "Michael G. Shepard" Reply-To: mgshepard@pacificcoast.net To: "TWEETERS" ,"BCVANBIRDS" Greetings, While sipping a hot beverage at Clover Point (Victoria BC) this morning, I noticed a pretty seagull on the lawn. I'm pretty sure I know what it is, but perhaps a gull expert or two might profer an opinion. A photo is posted at http://216.21.159.146/birds/seagull.html Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Michael G. Shepard North American Bird Information Web Site: http://www.islandnet.com/~mgs/birds/ From gorgebirds at juno.com Fri Jan 3 21:03:45 2003 From: gorgebirds at juno.com (Wilson E Cady) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Klickitat County Birds Message-ID: <20030103.210345.-335331.0.gorgebirds@juno.com> 1/3/03, mostly checking the flocks of scaup for Tufted Duck or Long-tailed Duck to no avail. But I did see a HARRIS' SPARROW at the Southwest corner of the Bingen Ponds. This bird is coming to a bird seed chum spot put out by Stuart Johnston. According to the information in the Bird Notebook that is in Loafer's Bakery in Bingen, there are also a Swamp Sparrow and a White-throated Sparrow coming to a chum spot on the North side of the pond too. I tried for these birds but a rain squall put most of the birds deep into cover. There were three LESSER GOLDFINCHES in with a flock of AMERICAN GOLDFINCHES near the log scaling shack along the river south of the pond. A CANYON WREN was calling from the cliff on the west side of Rowland Lake and one ACORN WOODPECKER was perched on the "granary tree" on Old Highway 8 near Balch Road. Wilson Cady Washougal, WA gorgebirds@juno.com From rfilby at charter.net Fri Jan 3 21:40:07 2003 From: rfilby at charter.net (Roy Filby) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: White-throated sparrow Message-ID: No pine siskins around our feeders in comparison to an abundance last year. A white-throated sparrow that visited us in November is back (assuming it is the same one!) - it is a tan morph and is accompanied by a golden-crowned sparrow. Roy Filby Newport Roy Filby Newport, OR rfilby@charter.net From acontrer at mindspring.com Fri Jan 3 21:52:34 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Pretty seagull Message-ID: I am not a gull expert but after eliminating a few things I suspect that this is a darkish first-year Ring-bill that has not had the decency to molt in a timely fashion. My first reaction was Thayer's but the tertials look too pale and splotchy and the whole pattern is too uneven. Also a first-winter Thayer's ought to have an all-dark bill, maybe a bit longer than this bird. It seems to be getting the dark covert centers that a winter Ring-bill would have, and the center of the back may well be coming in as pale gray, a couple of months late. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From prigge1 at mindspring.com Fri Jan 3 22:25:44 2003 From: prigge1 at mindspring.com (Allen Prigge) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Overwintering Turkey Vultures, Lane County Message-ID: <000001c2b3ba$5d2fd520$4c211ad8@net> Since the subject of overwintering TURKEY VULTURES has come up, I might mention that Will Peters, the Cherry Hill Rd. resident who entertains ASH-THROATED FLYCATCHER, reports that 12 TVs have been roosting in woods adjacent to his home. Bill Hunter and I found 10 of them on a fence above Cantrell Rd. on the Eugene CBC, December 29. Al Prigge From philliplc at harborside.com Fri Jan 3 23:15:26 2003 From: philliplc at harborside.com (Phil Pickering) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Pretty seagull References: Message-ID: <029f01c2b3c1$0eb38020$6501a8c0@byron> It is a Thayer's, but it's a 2nd-winter. Some 2nd-winter Thayer's only have scattered splotches of gray on the scaps and back like this bird, while retaining markings that look sort of like juvenile but are generally more uneven and finer (2nd-winter Thayer's can be very beautifully patterned). The head shape is very much like a Ring-billed, but R-b juv. shouldn't have a pale underside to outer primary or the white inner edge to the primary stack (both good Thayer's marks). Juvenile R-b also should have more solidly dark-centered or pale dark-tipped juv. scaps and coverts, rather than barred like this bird, and I don't think juv R-b would show fine bar type markings on the tertials. Hard to tell, but it also appears that the inner tail is too solid for typical Ring-billed. And, as Alan indicated, the vast majority (virtually all?) 1st-winter R-b should have molted the majority of their juv. scaps/coverts/tertials by January - and show a much more adult-like appearance than this bird, with a near-complete adult gray mantle and black tertials. The opposite is true for "1st-winter" Thayer's, which typically retain most of their juvenile plumage into spring. Cheers, Phil philliplc@harborside.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Contreras" To: "Obol" Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: Pretty seagull > I am not a gull expert but after eliminating a few things I suspect that > this is a darkish first-year Ring-bill that has not had the decency to molt > in a timely fashion. > > My first reaction was Thayer's but the tertials look too pale and splotchy > and the whole pattern is too uneven. Also a first-winter Thayer's ought to > have an all-dark bill, maybe a bit longer than this bird. > > It seems to be getting the dark covert centers that a winter Ring-bill would > have, and the center of the back may well be coming in as pale gray, a > couple of months late. > > -- > Alan Contreras > Eugene, Oregon > > > > > From jorrie at teleport.com Sat Jan 4 07:57:17 2003 From: jorrie at teleport.com (Jorrie & Ken) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Native Plants in Oregon Message-ID: Can anyone recommend their favorite best book on native plants in Oregon (with color photos)? Please email me direct. Thank you. Jorrie & Ken Ciotti 44N26 124W04 4 miles east of Waldport, Oregon jorrie@teleport.com From Irons5 at aol.com Sat Jan 4 08:15:06 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: OBOL: White-throated Sparrow tally update Message-ID: <8.323c9393.2b48628a@aol.com> I realize that this news is likely to send Tim Rodenkirk on a weeklong sparrow watching bender, but Lane Co. has closed the gap and now trails Coos by a mere one White-throated Sparrow. After jumping out to a huge early lead, Coos County continues to be the top reporting county (43 birds) with the always dangerous Lane County (at 42 and still holding an ace in the hole with the upcoming Florence CBC) closing fast. Perennial top-five powerhouse Benton County is solidly in 3rd place with 26. The total White-throated Sparrows reported statewide has reached 162 birds with the entire month of January still remaining. Last year the total was 176 birds during December and January. I am confident that we can top that if all birds get reported. I have still not heard from several feeders who reported multiple birds last year. If you know or hear of birds coming to feeders, please forward them to me. Don't assume that everyone reports their own sightings. Here is the by county breakdown so far: Benton 26 Clatsop 2 Columbia 2 Coos 43 Curry 8 Deschutes 1 Hood River 1 Josephine 1 Lane 42 Lincoln 2 (down considerably from last year no reports from Chuck Philo) Linn 5 Malheur 1 Marion 3 Multnomah 6 (includes only one bird reported from Sauvie Island) Polk 2 Tillamook 4 Washington 9 Yamhill 4 I have no reports for the following westside counties, Clackamas, Douglas and Jackson. Keep the reports coming, Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR P.S. Tim, I'm on my way to Florence tomorrow. Will I see you there? From surfbird at harborside.com Sat Jan 4 08:34:37 2003 From: surfbird at harborside.com (Diane Pettey) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Birdwatchers' True Things Message-ID: <3E170D1D.587E892A@harborside.com> Greetings OBOLers, A Wisconsin birder sent these truisms to me - as well as a photo of a Purple Sandpiper seen in his state recently. I wasn't too sure they were appropriate for OBOL or "politically correct" but I though they'd lighten things up. And don't forget - it's not too late to join the crowd tomorrow for the Florence CBC. We meet at Safeway - lobby if it's raining, parking lot if it isn't. 630am for owling parties, 700 for the rest of you. regards, Diane Pettey Florence, OR surfbird@harborside.com > > Fall-outs are work-day phenomena. > > The worse the weather, the better the birding. > > The birding is better on the other side of the fence and even BETTER > on the > other side of mud and water. > > Birds prefer restricted habitat; especially if it is restricted for > National Security reasons. > > Where chickadees go, warblers follow. > > All things come to those who wait; unless it is a life bird. > > The best things in life are free- it's the ancillary equipment that's > costly. > > The early bird catches the early bird. > > Listers rush in where others fear to tread. > > Four eyes see more than two, but they don't always see the same thing. > > A bad day birding beats a good day at work. > > The higher the count, the greater the ambition. > > If you chase 2 birds, you find neither. > > Target birds call only during conversation, and at no other time. > *Corollary: Never attempt serious discussion with a birder when > bird song > is audible. > > Common birds are loudest when listening for a target bird > > What goes down must come up. > > Compelling distractions occur simultaneously. > > Mosquitoes bite at the worst opportune moments, in the worst opportune > places. > > When trying to make an I.D., the bird will always position itself > between > you and the sun. > > Once you've found a nemesis life bird, it becomes a regular sighting. > > Never pass up the opportunity to use a clean bathroom. > * Corollary: One cup of coffee equals two bathroom breaks. > > To feed the sparrow one must also feed the hawk. > > Never look through a scope you can't afford. > > Multifunction gadgets don't. > > There is no such thing as a "gimme" bird. > > The world is composed of 2 kinds of people: those who enjoy Bird Song > Clocks, and those who don't. > > The warmest, most waterproof clothes are the dorkiest. > > The chance of seeing a staked out bird is inversely proportional to > the > number of birders present. > > The lower the windchill, the longer the trip. > > The bird of the day appears after you've left. > > You can't be 2 places at once, but you can be heard trying with a > Talk-About. > > No ID is beyond debate. > > The most embarrassing IBET typos are not caught by spellcheck. > > "1-day wonder" birds appear simultaneously, on opposite sides of the > state. > > The time available for birding is inversely proportional to the > quality of > migration. > > The longer you wait for a bird, the more irrational you become. > > A birder who "PISHes" alone in the forest is invariably "discovered" > by a > non-birder. > > Always check for burs before entering the office. > > Alarm clocks fail only for Owl Counts and Trip Leaders. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From khs at teleport.com Sat Jan 4 09:11:56 2003 From: khs at teleport.com (Karen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Semi-off topic: West Nile Update Message-ID: <001a01c2b414$63773ea0$1402a8c0@qwest.net> This is the newest update, and is taken from the Washington Post - so it reads much more dramatically than a report from a scientific agency. Karen Sharples Portland > > WEST NILE VIRUS UPDATE 2003 - USA (01) > ***************************** > A ProMED-mail post > > ProMED-mail is a program of the > International Society for Infectious Diseases > > > Date: 3 Jan 2003 > From: ProMED-mail > Source: Washington Post, Sat 28 Dec 2002 [edited] > > > > Ecological Impact of West Nile Virus > ------------------------------------ > First there was the silence of the crows. Then the horses fell ill -- more > than 14 000 this past summer [2002] alone -- along with squirrels, > chipmunks, and mountain goats. Even mighty raptors -- eagles, hawks, and > great horned owls -- dropped from the sky. Now scientists are beginning to > taking stock of West Nile virus's North American invasion, and they are > taken aback by the scale and sweep of its ecological impact. While the human > toll dominated the nation's attention this year [2002] -- the virus killed > at least 241 people and infected thousands more -- the effects on wildlife > were far worse. > > The virus swept westward with alarming rapidity, appearing in almost every > state in the nation -- an astonishing expansion for a [virus] that had never > been seen in the Western Hemisphere until 3 years ago. Equally unexpected, > nearly 200 species of birds, reptiles and mammals fell ill as a result of > West Nile virus infection this year [2002], including rabbits and reindeer, > pelicans and bats, even a few dogs and cats. The virus also slammed dozens > of exotic species in about 100 U.S. zoos, killing cockatiels, emus, seals, > flamingos, and penguins. Florida alligator farms lost more than 200 of the > reptiles. > > The epidemic has so resembled a bioterrorism attack that the nation's > zoos -- which spearheaded an effort to track [the spread of West Nile virus] > and mount emergency vaccinations -- could end up with potentially important > roles in the emerging arena of homeland security. Just last month, in a > hastily organized effort reminiscent of President Bush's smallpox plan, > officials at 2 California zoos inoculated their endangered California > condors with an experimental vaccine that may be the animals' only hope for > survival. > > West Nile virus infection is not fatal in all animals, and over time some > species are expected to adapt. But even partial [declines] in key > populations could have serious consequences. Rodent populations could > blossom in areas where raptors are dying, and pest birds such as house > sparrows may be increasing where crows are absent. The worst is still ahead, > scientists say. Come spring, West Nile virus is expected to complete its > push to the West Coast, home to endangered whooping cranes and economically > important flocks of domestic geese. The virus is also poised to leap to the > subtropics, where rare birds and other vulnerable creatures already face > formidable threats to their survival. "Once it gets to the tropics, where > you've got species already stressed by habitat destruction and you have the > potential for year-round mosquito transmission, some of those populations > are not going to make it," said Peter Marra, an animal ecologist and West > Nile specialist at the Smithsonian Environmental Research Center in > Edgewater, Maryland. "I'm concerned about parrots and hummingbird > populations. There's not that many of them left." > > West Nile made its North American debut in the fall of 1999, discovered in a > dead New York crow. Scientists don't know how the virus reached U.S. > shores -- perhaps it hid inside a single infected bird imported from the > Middle East. But one thing is certain, said Stephen Ostroff of the Centers > for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta: "There's no way that > West Nile virus is going to go away." The virus does not appear to be any > more virulent in Americans than in other people around the world, and > scientists suspect that the US population will gradually gain immunity > through low-level exposures. That is the situation today in countries where > the virus has been active for many years. Most people in those countries > have antibodies to the virus from early childhood, and serious complications > or death from West Nile virus infection are rare. > > But in North American wildlife, the virus has proven to be unusually > aggressive and capable of infecting a surprisingly diverse array of animals. > "Most viruses tend to be rather host-specific, but that's not the case with > what we were seeing," said Tracey McNamara, chief of pathology for the > Wildlife Conservation Society, which has its headquarters at the Bronx Zoo > [NY], where the first infected crow was found. It is still unclear how many > of the 200 or so species struck by West Nile virus infection have suffered > significant population declines. But a consensus is emerging that among > birds, in particular, far more species are being hurt than scientists had > predicted -- not just the crows, ravens, and jays that were known to be > especially vulnerable. "There's been a huge die-off of raptors," said Robert > G. McLean of the Agriculture Department's National Wildlife Research Center > in Fort Collins, Colorado. > > The experience of the University of Minnesota's Raptor Center, which > rehabilitates sick and injured raptors, was typical. "In mid-August [2002], > we had our first case: a great horned owl," said spokeswoman Sue Kirchoff. > "In September and October, we were just inundated." The center took in 70 > ailing birds of prey, including great horned owls, eagles, and red-tailed > hawks. Officials there presume that if that many were found and brought to > the center, countless others died in the wild, with potentially far-ranging > repercussions. "From a biological standpoint, raptors take longer to mature > and have fewer offspring" than smaller birds, said Patti Bright of the > American Bird Conservancy. "Whether they'll be able to rebound, well, we > just don't know." It will take a while longer, Bright and others said, > before it is known whether rodent populations are taking advantage of West > Nile virus's impact on birds of prey. > > The evidence for declines in songbirds and other small avian species is less > direct, in part because they are so much less visible. "We're simply not > going to know for a while [about] the smaller birds, because we're not going > to find the bodies," said David S. Wilcove, a professor of ecology at > Princeton University who has been studying West Nile virus disease. Still, > researchers this year found more than 140 bird species sickened or dead [as > a result of West Nile virus infection], including chickadees, doves, > grackles, gulls, herons, kingfishers, pelicans, sparrows, swans, turkeys, > warblers, woodpeckers, and wrens. And while most of those species will > probably pull through as resistant individuals mate and pass their antiviral > vigor to their offspring, ornithologists expect that others will not be so > lucky. > > They point to the experience of Hawaii, where the arrival of an avian > poxvirus in the 1890s and avian malaria in the 1930s drove dozens of species > to extinction or close to it. "Those [microbes] just hammered Hawaiian > forest birds," Wilcove said. "That illustrates the potential for harm when a > disease organism encounters a naive population." > > Several unexpected aspects of the epidemic have fed Wilcove's and others' > pessimism. One surprise is that the virus can be transmitted directly from > bird to bird, not only via mosquitoes. Raptors can acquire the virus by > eating infected prey, and some birds can apparently spread the virus in > their droppings. There's also evidence that some birds can pass the virus > directly to their chicks while they're still inside the egg. > > Another surprise is that West Nile virus can be transmitted directly from > adult mosquitoes to their eggs, so that newly hatched aquatic larvae are > born infected. That could make insecticides, which typically kill only > adults, less effective. > > Scientists have also been surprised to learn that the virus can persevere > through the winter, even in many Northern states. Researchers are not sure > which animals are serving as the virus's winter host, but the phenomenon is > allowing the disease to spread year round and is giving the summer viral > eruption an earlier start each year. > > Yet another surprise is the number of mosquito species -- 36 at last > count -- that carry the virus. "This is a virus that's never seen a mosquito > it doesn't like," said Ostroff of the CDC. "That's not typical for most > pathogenic viruses." > > If that weren't enough, some researchers suspect that West Nile virus might > be capable of mixing its genetic material with that of a closely related > virus, such as the one that causes St. Louis encephalitis, if both viruses > were to infect a single animal. Other viruses have periodically produced > such hybrids, creating in the process an entirely new and dangerous virus. > > "This virus is going to spread to the West Coast big time by next year, no > question," USDA's McLean said. "Each habitat is different, but California > seems to be an area that has all the factors you need for a major spread. I > think they're going to be facing major problems in humans, horses, birds, > and other animals. I just don't see any barriers." > > Such predictions have a particularly ominous ring for researchers on the > California Condor Recovery Team, who have been struggling to bring the > ungainly bird back from the brink of extinction. They knew that this > summer's experimental inoculations of zoo birds with the horse vaccine -- > the only West Nile vaccine approved for marketing in this country -- had > been disappointing, with many birds failing to develop protective > antibodies. So in November 2002, veterinarians at the Los Angeles and San > Diego zoos injected into the thighs of their condors an experimental vaccine > to try to confer immunity before the spring egg-laying season. "We had > absolutely zero negative effects," said Cynthia Stringfield, veterinarian of > the Los Angeles Zoo, and preliminary blood tests suggested that the birds > "had a fantastic immune response." If further tests show that the vaccine > works, the team will try to vaccinate all 128 captive California condors and > the approximately 70 birds now living in the wild. > > Zoos may take the lead in the fight against West Nile virus in more ways > than that. More than 100 U.S. zoos and wildlife parks have joined a newly > created information-sharing network, which has its headquarters at Chicago's > Lincoln Park Zoo, to track West Nile virus infection and other emerging > infections in exotic animals. Some scientists suspect the network may even > prove useful in the cause of homeland security, by providing a sensitive > nationwide "sentinel system" for detecting the first hints of a bioterrorism > attack. After all, zoo officials noted, New York crows were dying in droves > in the fall of 1999, but no one figured out that West Nile virus was the > culprit, or that the deaths were related to a spate of unusual human > illnesses, until a crow died on the grounds of the Bronx Zoo. Zoos, it turns > out, take every death seriously -- even those of non-zoo animals on zoo > grounds -- because any death can mark the start of a devastating epidemic. > "Every dead animal is picked up and immediately necropsied," said McNamara, > the Bronx Zoo pathologist. "That's not true in Central Park." When the Bronx > crow was found to be teeming with West Nile virus, it was the first evidence > that the Old World virus had leaped the Atlantic -- and the beginning of the > recognition that an epidemic was already under way in humans. McNamara said > a zoo vet could be the first to know whether terrorists have released a > human or animal pathogen. The consortium is seeking federal funding. > > Still, some scientists fear that the nation may soon become less able to > prevent outbreaks such as that of West Nile virus -- whether accidental or > intentional. They said the U.S. system for screening incoming animal, plant > and microbial life -- a patchwork of more than 20 agencies -- has long been > undervalued and underfunded. Now the largest component, the Agriculture > Department's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, is to become part > of the new Homeland Security Department. That's leading many ecologists to > fear that it will narrow its focus to classical bioterrorism pathogens such > as anthrax, leaving the nation more vulnerable to [agents] such as West Nile > virus. "I have a feeling that beetles in imported wood packaging are not > going to be at the top of the list," said Faith T. Campbell, director of the > invasive species program at the American Lands Alliance in Washington. Yet > the recent U.S. invasion by Asian longhorned beetles, which arrived in wood > packaging from China, is expected to cost the nation as much as $669 billion > in insect-destroyed trees in urban areas alone in coming decades, Campbell > said. > > Whether West Nile virus ends up decimating many animal populations or > settling in as a mere high-grade ecological disturbance, the epidemic should > be a wake-up call to beef up the nation's surveillance and quarantine > network, said Princeton's Wilcove. > > [Byline: Rick Weiss] > > -- > ProMED-mail > > > [see also: > 2002 > ---- > West Nile virus - USA 2001: final report 20020613.4491 > West Nile virus, predicted spread in 2002 - USA 20020109.3206 > West Nile virus update 2002 - USA (01) 20020506.4109 > West Nile virus update 2002 - USA (17) 20020823.5124 > West Nile virus update 2002 - USA (18): human 20020901.5212 > West Nile virus update 2002 - USA (19): non-human 20020901.5213 > West Nile virus update 2002 - USA (20) 20020907.5252 > West Nile virus update 2002 - USA (35) 20021226.6129 > West Nile virus, raptors - USA 20020912.5289 > West Nile virus, raptors - USA (04) 20021001.5432 > 2001 > ---- > West Nile virus surveillance - USA 2000 final report 20010423.0792 > West Nile virus surveillance - USA 20010129.0207 > West Nile virus surveillance 2001 - USA (34) 20011130.2914] > ...................mpp/cp/pg/jw > > > *##########################################################* > ProMED-mail makes every effort to verify the reports that > are posted, but the accuracy and completeness of the > information, and of any statements or opinions based > thereon, are not guaranteed. 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For assistance from a > human being send mail to: owner-majordomo@promedmail.org. > ############################################################ > ############################################################ From tewert at email.msn.com Sat Jan 4 10:16:54 2003 From: tewert at email.msn.com (Tom Ewert) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: missing house sparrows? Message-ID: <00db01c2b41d$772722e0$6440ef41@default> Oboloids, Has anyone else heard this story about house sparrows disappearing in Europe? Any comments? http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1227/p01s03-woeu.html Check also this web page: http://www.bto.org/notice/housesparrows.htm regards, Tom Ewert From Jadybrwn at aol.com Sat Jan 4 10:59:28 2003 From: Jadybrwn at aol.com (Jadybrwn@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Can a Western Srub Jay and a Stellers Jay cross ? Message-ID: <11b.1c3a066b.2b488910@aol.com> I walked down along Amazon Channel from Fir Butte Road towards Fern Ridge on north side of channel. Came to the wooded area where the was some Stellers Jays hanging out and a dark Scrub Jay with a dark blue belly . I hope others in Lane County get to see it and let me know what think. Dave Brown - of Alvadore -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030104/486a0945/attachment.htm From Jadybrwn at aol.com Sat Jan 4 11:14:48 2003 From: Jadybrwn at aol.com (Jadybrwn@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Amazon Cannel woods and Jay Message-ID: <61.2b9d7949.2b488ca8@aol.com> I for got to mention not to walk back into the woods because its posted. The birds were nexed to the trail when I saw them. Dave Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030104/da437734/attachment.htm From mratclif at aracnet.com Sat Jan 4 11:50:43 2003 From: mratclif at aracnet.com (Mary Ratcliff) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: eBird website Message-ID: <3E173B13.4060408@aracnet.com> and since I hadn't seen anything about it on OBOL, thought I would pass it along to the group. > eBird, a project developed by the Cornell Lab of Ornithology and the > National Audubon Society, provides a simple way for you to keep track > of the birds you see anywhere in North America. They are looking for birders to post accurate information about the birds they see, including times, counts, exact location, weather info, etc. You can post your list to this site and it will be added to a national database which can be used to study birds. Cool! Another way to make your birding count in the real world. And while I'm talking about websites, I thought I would pass on this really nice 5 part series on birding in the Galapagos by Jack Shafer (http://slate.msn.com/id/2075289/entry/2075472/) for your reading pleasure. Cheers, Mary Ratcliff Lake Oswego, OR From birdsong at harborside.com Sat Jan 4 12:26:50 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Slate-colored Junco, Bandon, Coos Cty Message-ID: <3E17438A.4050106@harborside.com> Folks, I have been watching an interesting DARK-EYED JUNCO at my feeder for a month or more. I am now convinced it is a SLATE-COLORED JUNCO, most likely an immature male. The gray of the head and breast extends lower than the OREGON JUNCO'S hood, and then the gray washes down the flanks, as opposed to the sharp demarcation of the hood of the OREGON JUNCO and the pinkish flanks. The bird has an infusion of brownish on the back and up onto the nape, but this brown is not sharply set off from the hood like an OREGON JUNCO, and is just an infusion of brown on gray feathers as opposed to all brown feathers. The tertials are also edged brownish, but the rest of the wing is gray. The edging is also lighter, and thinner than the OREGON JUNCOS. At first I thought this bird might be an immature OREGON, but now I am sure it is not, and it fits the illustrations of a young SLATE-COLORED in a number of guides. Cheers Dave Lauten and Kathy Castelein Bandon, OR birdsong@harborside.com From birdsong at harborside.com Sat Jan 4 12:40:26 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Pretty seagull References: Message-ID: <3E1746BA.7050902@harborside.com> I tend to agree with Phil that this is a Thayer's Gull, but Phil, I am confused about your last sentences Phil Pickering wrote: > > And, as Alan indicated, the vast majority (virtually all?) 1st-winter R-b > should have molted the majority of their juv. scaps/coverts/tertials > by January - and show a much more adult-like appearance than > this bird, with a near-complete adult gray mantle and black tertials. > The opposite is true for "1st-winter" Thayer's, which typically retain > most of their juvenile plumage into spring. > You indicated the bird was a second winter bird in your first paragraph, so then why are we talking about a 1st winter Thayer's retaining juvenal plumage (not juvenile plumage, sorry to be picky)? Furthermore, a second winter Thayer's should have almost a complete gray back, as most if not all the mantle and scaps should have molted into adult colors, something this bird has no sign of. Is this a first winter bird, or a second winter bird? Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com > Cheers, > > Phil > philliplc@harborside.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Contreras" > To: "Obol" > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:52 PM > Subject: Pretty seagull > > > >>I am not a gull expert but after eliminating a few things I suspect that >>this is a darkish first-year Ring-bill that has not had the decency to >> > molt > >>in a timely fashion. >> >>My first reaction was Thayer's but the tertials look too pale and splotchy >>and the whole pattern is too uneven. Also a first-winter Thayer's ought >> > to > >>have an all-dark bill, maybe a bit longer than this bird. >> >>It seems to be getting the dark covert centers that a winter Ring-bill >> > would > >>have, and the center of the back may well be coming in as pale gray, a >>couple of months late. >> >> -- >>Alan Contreras >>Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> >> >> > > > > From celata at pacifier.com Sat Jan 4 12:42:31 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Columbia Estuary Report - 1/4/2002 Message-ID: <3E174735.F5427262@pacifier.com> Columbia Estuary Report - 1/4/2002 A gray-phase GYRFALCON was near the LLAMA farm on Aldrich Point Rd this morning. It flew past us fairly low then spent the next 5 minutes or so kiting with RED-TAILS and NORTHERN HARRIERS along the ridge to the north. Two BARN SWALLOWS were working the slough near Brownsmead Grange. A fairly light colored adult PEREGRINE FALCON was in the falcon snag along Jackson Rd. A WHITE-TAILED KITE was at the corner of Jackson and Pentilla. A EURASIAN WIGEON and several CINNAMON TEAL are hanging out in the slough along hwy 101 between Camp Rilea and the Astoria Golf Club. Lower Columbia Birders walk list for 1/4/2002 Birds seen (in taxonomic order): Pied-billed Grebe Double-crested Cormorant Great Blue Heron Canada Goose Tundra Swan 16 Wood Duck Gadwall American Wigeon Mallard Northern Shoveler Northern Pintail Green-Winged Teal Canvasback Greater Scaup Lesser Scaup Bufflehead Common Goldeneye Hooded Merganser Common Merganser Red-breasted Merganser White-tailed Kite 1 [1] Bald Eagle 1 Northern Harrier 8 Cooper's Hawk 1 Red-tailed Hawk 14 Rough-legged Hawk 1 GYRFALCON 1 [2] Peregrine Falcon 1 [3] American Coot 1 Killdeer 1 Greater Yellowlegs 31 [4] Dunlin 20 Long-billed Dowitcher 15 Mew Gull Western Gull Glaucous-winged Gull Belted Kingfisher Northern Flicker Steller's Jay Western Scrub-Jay American Crow Common Raven BARN SWALLOW 2 [5] Black-capped Chickadee Bewick's Wren Winter Wren Marsh Wren Ruby-crowned Kinglet Hermit Thrush American Robin Varied Thrush European Starling American Pipit Yellow-rumped Warbler Spotted Towhee Fox Sparrow Song Sparrow Lincoln's Sparrow White-crowned Sparrow Golden-crowned Sparrow Dark-eyed Junco Red-winged Blackbird Brewer's Blackbird House Sparrow Footnotes: [1] Pentilla Rd [2] near EMU's on Aldrich Pt Rd [3] Jackson Rd [4] in 2 separate flocks [5] near Brownsmead Grange Total number of species seen: 62 -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From birdsong at harborside.com Sat Jan 4 12:53:33 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Golden Plover photo ID References: Message-ID: <3E1749CD.6040405@harborside.com> Folks, I'm not sure if we can safely ID this bird from these two photos alone. The first photo appears to me, on my screen, to have the buffy colored supercilium and the bulbous forehead of a PACFIC. The wing extension looks kind of long, but I am having trouble counting the primary tips. It appears three are extending beyond the tertails, which is ok for PACIFIC, but I have found that many AMERICANS often have a very short gap between the two longest primaries, and if this is the case with this bird, I can't see it. Plus often if PACIFICS have three primaries extending beyond the tertials, often the third one is barely extending beyond the tertials, but to me in the first photo it looks more like this third primary (assuming it is three) is extending more than just barely beyond the tertial. The second phote the bird does not appear to have the bulbous forehead (at least not as much). The supercilium looks buffy but not as much as the first photo; in both photos this could be the color of the film, the lighting, etc etc. The primary extension again looks long, but I can't count any tips at all. If the ID was based on these photos alone, I'd say Golden-plover sp. If there are more details, that would be helpful. Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com Greg Gillson wrote: > I have placed 2 Golden-Plover photos from this fall on my web site. These > were taken at Agate Lake, by Jim Livaudais. > > I believe that at the time they were identified as Pacific Golden-Plover, > but several people looking at the photos say it is American Golden-Plover. > I'm not sure. > > Please take a look and make sure to copy Steve Dowlan (FoxSparrows@aol.com) > in your reply, as editor of Oregon Birds where these photos are scheduled to > appear. > > Photos are at: > http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover%202.jpg > http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover.jpg > > Thank you, > > Greg Gillson > Cornelius, Oregon > greg@thebirdguide.com > http://thebirdguide.com > > > > > > > From celata at pacifier.com Sat Jan 4 13:05:09 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Golden Plover photo ID References: Message-ID: <3E174C81.C61547D9@pacifier.com> I brightened the image and count 4 primaries... When first asked about this photo, called it an American. KACastelein and DJLauten wrote: > > Folks, > > I'm not sure if we can safely ID this bird from these two photos alone. > The first photo appears to me, on my screen, to have the buffy colored > supercilium and the bulbous forehead of a PACFIC. The wing extension > looks kind of long, but I am having trouble counting the primary tips. > It appears three are extending beyond the tertails, which is ok for > PACIFIC, but I have found that many AMERICANS often have a very short > gap between the two longest primaries, and if this is the case with this > bird, I can't see it. Plus often if PACIFICS have three primaries > extending beyond the tertials, often the third one is barely extending > beyond the tertials, but to me in the first photo it looks more like > this third primary (assuming it is three) is extending more than just > barely beyond the tertial. > > The second phote the bird does not appear to have the bulbous forehead > (at least not as much). The supercilium looks buffy but not as much as > the first photo; in both photos this could be the color of the film, the > lighting, etc etc. The primary extension again looks long, but I can't > count any tips at all. > > If the ID was based on these photos alone, I'd say Golden-plover sp. If > there are more details, that would be helpful. > > Dave Lauten > Bandon OR > birdsong@harborside.com > > Greg Gillson wrote: > > > I have placed 2 Golden-Plover photos from this fall on my web site. These > > were taken at Agate Lake, by Jim Livaudais. > > > > I believe that at the time they were identified as Pacific Golden-Plover, > > but several people looking at the photos say it is American Golden-Plover. > > I'm not sure. > > > > Please take a look and make sure to copy Steve Dowlan (FoxSparrows@aol.com) > > in your reply, as editor of Oregon Birds where these photos are scheduled to > > appear. > > > > Photos are at: > > http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover%202.jpg > > http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover.jpg > > > > Thank you, > > > > Greg Gillson > > Cornelius, Oregon > > greg@thebirdguide.com > > http://thebirdguide.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From farrarjd at hotmail.com Sat Jan 4 14:17:08 2003 From: farrarjd at hotmail.com (Daniel Farrar) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Lane County Birds 1-4-3 Message-ID: Obol, Vjera and Thad Arnold did some birding with me in Lane County today. Here are our highlights. Springfield- BLUE JAY Kirk Pond- 2-3 GREATER SCAUP, Gadwall Perkin's Penn- SWAMP SPARROW, White-breasted Nuthatch, Hutton's Vireo, PEREGRINE FALCON Cantrell Rd- 2 Turkey Vultures Daniel Farrar Eugene, OR farrarjd@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From dlrobbo at earthlink.net Sat Jan 4 16:08:37 2003 From: dlrobbo at earthlink.net (Douglas Robberson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Don't miss Tualatin Riverkeepers' 2003 BIRDING CLASSES! 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Our quest was to find the small flock of Vancouver Canada Geese (B.c. fulva) with which the Gray's Harbor Bean Goose was associating. At last report the Bean Goose and its Vancouver Canada Geese flock had departed the Gray's Harbor area. Since it has been reported that the Vancouver Canadas primarily winter in the northern Willamette Valley, it was our hope to find the Bean Goose with the flock that it was with in Washington. While we are sure that we did not see all of the geese in the above mentioned counties, we were unable to locate the Bean Goose. Perhaps it is still in Washington (the coast or lower Columbia River areas), or has arrived in Oregon. Since far more geese winter in the Willamette Valley, that seems like a reasonable place to look (as was suggested recently by Steve Mladnow). We plan additional trips in coming weekends to other western Oregon locations to continue the search. Birds of interest that we saw today were: 1 Prairie Falcon along Hwy. 99 W near Baskett Slough NWR 1 adult White-fronted goose at Baskett Slough NWR about 80 Horned Larks at Baskett Slough NWR 2 Barn Swallows at Ankeny NWR From tanager at nu-world.com Sat Jan 4 18:38:36 2003 From: tanager at nu-world.com (Anne & Dan Heyerly) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Lane County Pulls Even in WTSP Count!! Message-ID: <001c01c2b463$8d2a0b20$8e99fa43@tanager> Eugene January 4, 2003. "Lane county pulled even with Coos county Saturday in the tightening race to record the highest number of White-throated Sparrows in Oregon. One cotton-throated beauty first showed up in the back yard of Dan and Anne Heyerly on December 31, 2002 and has been a daily visitor since then. When asked by phone why this bird was not reported for five days, Heyerly would not comment, but instead snorted and hung up. Efforts to reach Tim Rodenkirk, the ubiquitous beach birder from the Bay area, were unsuccessful. Other observers from the coastal county would not speak on the record, but on background admitted that their team's failure to block out led to too many second chance points for the opposition." DH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030104/c595a079/attachment.htm From tanager at nu-world.com Sat Jan 4 18:47:06 2003 From: tanager at nu-world.com (Anne & Dan Heyerly) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Linn co. White-Throated Sparrow Message-ID: <002501c2b464$bd3cc180$8e99fa43@tanager> Obolinks, Two WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS in two days! One here at home in Lane county (see earlier posting) and another found just today (January 4, 2003) just south of Harrisburg, Oregon in Linn county. The Linn co. bird was in a muddy field alongside South 6th Street associating with a million KILLDEER, 10 DUNLIN, 1 LEAST SANDPIPER, and a handful of GOLDEN-CROWNED SPARROWS just SE of the "Wilcox" warehouse/buildings which are along the railroad tracks close to where Hwy. 99 crosses the Willamette River. Dan Heyerly -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030104/5d04e487/attachment.htm From dan-patw at worldnet.att.net Sat Jan 4 19:17:22 2003 From: dan-patw at worldnet.att.net (Dan Waldron) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Fox Sparrows Message-ID: <3E17A3BA.33D1BC76@worldnet.att.net> Dear Steve and OBOL, I have lots of Fox Sparrows here. They are one of my favorite birds. I have quite a few pale Sootys. I did catch one in a cloche about a month ago and noticed beside it's lower yellow mandible, a dot of yellow feathers in the top malar area. I don't see this in Sibley's. Have you ever seen this? My other question is what is "(young HY excepted)". Good Birding, Pat Waldron East of Scio Linn Co. ... the "sooty" forms are highly variable, and we don't see all of them all the time down here. One thing that might help... the interior birds I've banded almost never have even a slight hint of yellow on the bill (young HY excepted)... these birds have very blue bills.... Steve Dowlan Mehama, Oregon From dondewitt at hotmail.com Sat Jan 4 19:23:22 2003 From: dondewitt at hotmail.com (Don DeWitt) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Eurasian Green-winged Teal, Eugene Message-ID: OBOL, Until about 4:30 this afternoon, Jan. 4, one EURASIAN GREEN-WINGED TEAL was among the hundred or more other ducks and teal in the water at Amazon Flats (Greenhill and Royal Avenue corner, lower Amazon wetland project.) A few minutes later, the entire bunch took flight when a hunter hidden in the tall grass out there began to fire a shotgun at them. No Short-eared Owls out there, again, tonight. Elsewhere, 80-90 Dowitchers were in the pool along Beltline which is best viewed from the end of 7th Ave. off Bertelsen. And, the usual ducks such as Pintail and Eurasian Wigeon were at Stewart Pond but no shorebirds. Don DeWitt _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From birdsong at harborside.com Sun Jan 5 08:24:31 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Golden Plover photo ID References: <3E174C81.C61547D9@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <3E185C3F.3020707@harborside.com> Taking Mike on his word, if this plover has four primaries tips extending beyond the tertials, I agree with Mike, it's an AMERICAN. Dave Lauten Mike Patterson wrote: > I brightened the image and count 4 primaries... > > When first asked about this photo, called it an > American. > > KACastelein and DJLauten wrote: > >>Folks, >> >>I'm not sure if we can safely ID this bird from these two photos alone. >> The first photo appears to me, on my screen, to have the buffy colored >>supercilium and the bulbous forehead of a PACFIC. The wing extension >>looks kind of long, but I am having trouble counting the primary tips. >>It appears three are extending beyond the tertails, which is ok for >>PACIFIC, but I have found that many AMERICANS often have a very short >>gap between the two longest primaries, and if this is the case with this >>bird, I can't see it. Plus often if PACIFICS have three primaries >>extending beyond the tertials, often the third one is barely extending >>beyond the tertials, but to me in the first photo it looks more like >>this third primary (assuming it is three) is extending more than just >>barely beyond the tertial. >> >>The second phote the bird does not appear to have the bulbous forehead >>(at least not as much). The supercilium looks buffy but not as much as >>the first photo; in both photos this could be the color of the film, the >>lighting, etc etc. The primary extension again looks long, but I can't >>count any tips at all. >> >>If the ID was based on these photos alone, I'd say Golden-plover sp. If >> there are more details, that would be helpful. >> >>Dave Lauten >>Bandon OR >>birdsong@harborside.com >> >>Greg Gillson wrote: >> >> >>>I have placed 2 Golden-Plover photos from this fall on my web site. These >>>were taken at Agate Lake, by Jim Livaudais. >>> >>>I believe that at the time they were identified as Pacific Golden-Plover, >>>but several people looking at the photos say it is American Golden-Plover. >>>I'm not sure. >>> >>>Please take a look and make sure to copy Steve Dowlan (FoxSparrows@aol.com) >>>in your reply, as editor of Oregon Birds where these photos are scheduled to >>>appear. >>> >>>Photos are at: >>>http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover%202.jpg >>>http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover.jpg >>> >>>Thank you, >>> >>>Greg Gillson >>>Cornelius, Oregon >>>greg@thebirdguide.com >>>http://thebirdguide.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > From nelsoncheek at newportnet.com Sun Jan 5 10:55:52 2003 From: nelsoncheek at newportnet.com (nelsoncheek) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Yaquina Bay CBC Highlights Message-ID: bed for yesterday's Yaquina Bay CBC. Forming up into 10 field teams, they set off into the early dark, gusty wind and sideways rain for a day of birding fun, Oregon coast-style. Thankfully the worst of the weather was over soon enough, and by early afternoon the day was quite nice. Morning birding was somewhat slow (the birds had better sense than to get out of bed in such weather) but diligent efforts by the field observers produced 128 species, above average for this CBC. No chaseable rarities and no species new to the count, but several that we don't get that often, including: SWAMP SPARROW - below the dam at the Newport reservoir (Big Creek Rd.) SNOW BUNTING - a late-day find at the Yaquina Bay north jetty NORTHERN SHRIKE - working the fence line along the east side of the Newport Municipal Airport AMERICAN DIPPER - along Elkhorn Creek 2 GRAY JAYS - in the hills way up N. Beaver Creek Rd. 1st winter GLAUCOUS GULL - with the gull crowd begging scraps at Mo's Restaurant on the Newport Bayfront MOURNING DOVE -staked out at a Toledo feeder There was no pelagic trip due to weather, but seawatchers spotted several remaining BROWN PELICANS, as well as one CLARK'S GREBE, a BONAPARTE'S GULL, 2 BLACK-LEGGED KITTIWAKES, multiple THAYER'S GULLS, >300 BLACK SCOTERS, COMMON MURRES and a RHINOCEROS AUKLET, plus all the usual winter gulls, scoters, loons and grebes. There were small numbers of REDHEADS and CANVASBACKS in Sally's Bend, and 3 EURASIAN WIGEON at Idaho Flats and in Hidden Valley. Inland teams found several RUFFED GROUSE but no quail. No owls, but good numbers of other raptors: BALD EAGLES, many RED-TAILED HAWKS, 4 PEREGRINE FALCONS, a MERLIN, several AMERICAN KESTRELS, SHARP-SHINNED HAWKS, NORTHERN HARRIERS and WHITE-TAILED KITES. The RED-SHOULDERED HAWK that has lately been resident around the Hatfield Marine Science Center area was not seen, but one (possibly the same bird?) was located across the bay in Yaquina Bay State Park. And efforts of field teams plus 6 feeder watchers turned up 17 ANNA'S HUMMINGBIRDS, blowing away the previous high count of 5 for this species. Thanks to all the local and visiting birders whose skill and enthusiasm produced such a successful CBC! Rebecca Cheek, Compiler South Beach, OR 97366 nelsoncheek@newportnet.com From newhouse at efn.org Sun Jan 5 11:30:38 2003 From: newhouse at efn.org (Bruce Newhouse) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Great Gray Owl/Lane County Message-ID: <3E1887DE.22042099@efn.org> her place near Fall Creek, at about 1000 feet elevation. (The exact location will remain confidential, sorry.) She has a wonderful digital photo of it sitting on a post, and is trying for more photos today. If Oregon Birds would like one, please e-mail me personally and I'll hook you up with her. Bruce Newhouse in Eugene From garbledmodwit at yahoo.com Sun Jan 5 16:52:06 2003 From: garbledmodwit at yahoo.com (Tim Rodenkirk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Coos County 1/5/03 Message-ID: <20030106005206.82304.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> T'was a glorious day in Coos Bay, we broke our record high, it was a scorching 65F. I had to take a cruise around a few neighborhoods in the AM and look for birds, here are the highlights: 2- ORANGE-CROWNED WARBLERS 6- LESSER GOLDFINCHS (tough bird to find around here) 1- CEDAR WAXWING (we always seem to miss this on our CBC and did so again this year) 1- WHITE-THROATED SPARROW (that makes six in the past two days) Also had over 300 Pine Siskins (twice what we had on the CBC), five Red-breasted Nuthatches, & five Townsend's Warblers. The Florence count must have had fabulous weather also, wonder how it went? ENJOY! Tim R Coos Bay __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From copelanddr at att.net Sun Jan 5 17:11:14 2003 From: copelanddr at att.net (David Copeland) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: TREE SWALLOW Message-ID: A lone TREE SWALLOW was flying over the Philomath sewer ponds (second pond) this morning. Dave Copeland Keizer From kspencer at tulesd.tulelake.k12.ca.us Sun Jan 5 17:23:57 2003 From: kspencer at tulesd.tulelake.k12.ca.us (Kevin Spencer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Klamath Falls CBC summary Message-ID: OBOL, Very warm yesterday in Klamath Falls yesterday, 4 Jan. Some wind in am, but died down to almost zero in pm. Species: 101. Total individuals: 35,262 Corvid numbers way up in all local species Finch numbers up except Pine Siskin which was close to nil. Rare species on count: Ferruginous Hawk-2, Wood Duck-1, Chestnut-backed Chickadee-1, Mountain Quail-8, Williamson's Sapsucker-2, White-headed Woodpecker-1, Varied Thrush-2, Harris's Sparrow-1, and Double-crested Cormorant-1 Kevin Spencer kspencer@tulesd.tulelake.k12.ca.us From pamelaj at spiritone.com Sun Jan 5 17:33:09 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: BARN SWALLOW, Portland Message-ID: <000901c2b523$96022140$34c563d8@sburock> River between I-205 and the Sea Scout Base, as I was driving along NE Marine Dr. Fortunately, I maintained control of the vehicle and didn't drive off the levee. The Western Grebes were in their accustomed spot off Broughton's Beach, and no loons were on hand. Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From sharpshinnedhawk at yahoo.com Sun Jan 5 17:40:39 2003 From: sharpshinnedhawk at yahoo.com (M K) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Cinnamon Teal @ Jackson Bottoms Message-ID: <20030106014039.4154.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Obol, Having moved to Portland recently I don't know how common it is to find a Cinnamon Teal in January. So, for what it is wirth there are two CINNAMON TEALS at Jackson Bottoms. Mahesh Ketkar Hillsboro __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From mgshepard at pacificcoast.net Sun Jan 5 18:51:54 2003 From: mgshepard at pacificcoast.net (Michael G. Shepard) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Gull Quiz Anyone??? Message-ID: Greetings all laridophiles (and laridophobes for that matter)! Thanks to Mike Patterson for forwarding an earlier message regarding a young gull photographed at Clover Point BC. Quite a few Oregon birders have given input - I'll be compiling a summary of responses soon and will let you know. Last May, I acquired a digital camera - it's causing me to look more closely at birds. I thought I would be snapping and looking later, but no dice! Anyway, I've posted a miniature gull quiz (the quiz is small, not the gulls). It has some toughies and some easier ones, and there's a bit of humour thrown in as well. The first one is the bird I asked about a few days ago, and the rest are birds photographed today (January 5, 2003) along the Victoria waterfront. The quiz is posted at http://216.21.159.146/birds/seagull.html Your comments would be appreciated. I've also spent quite a bit of time over the past few weeks updating the North American Bird Information Web Site. Check out the recent postings section: http://www.islandnet.com/~mgs/birds/recentpostings.html I'm also starting to incorporate many more photos into the site. If you have any to share, I would love to hear from you. Have fun!!! Michael G. Shepard Victoria BC North American Bird Information Web Site: http://www.islandnet.com/~mgs/birds/ From birdsong at harborside.com Sun Jan 5 18:58:39 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Birding News from Coos Message-ID: <3E18F0DF.1000802@harborside.com> 1/5/03 Coos Cty Ok folks, We thought we'd get in on this sparrow contest thing. First, Kathy and I headed to Coos Bay North Spit to look for the AMERICAN TREE SPARROW. This little fella has been eluding us at all costs. After searching today and finding no PALM WARLBERS or TREE SPARROW, we have decided that Tim Rodenkirk has conspired with other well known birders (I think one Sundstrom is involved, and maybe a Gillson) to get us out into the field by posting such good county birds. BA-HUMBUG! There is no such thing as a TREE SPARROW in Coos Cty, I simply refuse to believe it. However, we can't really complain much as it was sunny (wow!) and something like 70 degrees and no wind. Global warming can be a good thing. : ) As a consolation prize, we found one male REDHEAD and three female REDHEADS on the effluent pond. That's four times the CBC total. Then we headed over to the supposed CLAY-COLORED SPARROW spot. Another fictious bird that got us into the field. However there were nice numbers of sparrows in the field, which we worked over hard. This location has previously had one WHITE-THROATED SPARROW, but, HA! we found TWO! So IRONS, add it up and tack it on, Coos Cty ain't dead yet! And just think Bandon city has not been combed over yet.....so Lane Cty start sweating! With that said, I think we need to be a little bit more fair about this. Looking at the map, I see Lane Cty must be 3 times or more the size of Coos. Therefore one has to adjust for the number of WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS by dividing Lane Cty's total by a factor of about 3 or so. AND, since Lane has a considerable amount more birders, especially competent ones, than Coos, we need to add another factor to the equation. So, the total number of WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS for this contest should be equal to: # of WTSP/# of square miles/# of birders, or something like that. Obviously Coos Cty would come out on top, unless of course those stellar, or is it steller, Lane Cty birders get off their bottoms and find a considerable more WTSP's. Finally, and most importantly (I have had to do this in the past and am wondering when it is going to end!!!!!?????), that shy fella we all know well, Mr. Trodenki, aka Tim Rodenkirk, has done it again. Tim I-am-not-listing-this-year Rodenkirk, did just the opposite in 2002 (surprise surprise!). He listed again (are you getting tired of this???). But this time he went for the big one, that YEAR STATE LIST. Yep, you guessed right, Mr. Trodenki did in fact (as long as we can all believe him, I certainly have my doubts.....Tree Sparrow...uh-huh...) beat the old state year list record, which I believe was a very cool 355. Mr. Trodenki breezed past that number, and headed for the bird-for-each-day-of-the-year-total, but missed by a fraction, coming to a screaming halt at 363 (or is it 362 Tim??). I'm impressed, and here's to Tim, congradulations! I know you are much too modest to let everyone know of your dirty little secrets. One last word: can you guess, believe, what was his biggest, ouchest, most aweful, still hurting from it, miss??????? Oh, what beautiful BLUE FEET that baby had! We missed you so much when we were all there...... So, here's to rubbing Tim a bit (dragging him thru the mud too), and to White-throated Sparrows.... PS - since we are doing a year in review, my other favorite story for 2002 was the report of the esteemed Alan Contreras finding exactly ONE BUSHTIT on his Coos Bay CBC totals. One Bushtit is, by statistics, downright and udderly impossible. Is it really possible that Alan's birding skills are waning and his reputation is suffering???????? What will 2003 bring? Stay tuned..... Cheers Dave Lauten and Kathy Castelein Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From newhouse at efn.org Sun Jan 5 19:00:50 2003 From: newhouse at efn.org (Bruce Newhouse) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Great Gray Owl/Lane County Message-ID: <3E18F162.663CD9B5@efn.org> Today I received an invite to go and see the GREAT GRAY OWL on private property in the Fall Creek area which I posted about earlier today. Indeed, it certainly is one -- perching and hunting along the edge of a meadow, and affording excellent views through a scope. Stunning sight. With apologies to Dave I., I'll do a running total for the month for GG owls in Oregon. Score so far: Lane County (1) Coos County (0) Other counties (0) Bruce Newhouse in Eugene :) From surfbird at harborside.com Sun Jan 5 19:47:41 2003 From: surfbird at harborside.com (Diane Pettey) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: RBA: Lane Co. Coast BALTIMORE Oriole Message-ID: <3E18FC5D.3C2838FD@harborside.com> During the Florence Christmas Bird Count today, a BALTIMORE ORIOLE was confirmed by Alan Contreras, Noah Strycker (photos obtained), et.al. This bird (along with another oriole described as "paler") was first seen in October by backyard birdwatchers and not reported because of lack of knowledge that it was rare. Resident at 391 Kingwood Street said the bird/s are visiting a feeder in her backyard BIRDERS ARE WELCOME!! Birds have also been seen at a suet feeder at 435 Laurel St. LOCATION: In Florence - after the Hwy 101/126 intersection, go south on Hwy 101 and turn right on Kingwood Street at the Florence Dairy Queen (just before crossing the Siuslaw River Bridge). Turn a sharp right again and go north on Kingwood for barely 2 blocks. 391 Kingwood Street. Wahoo!! regards, Diane Pettey Florence, OR surfbird@harborside.com From carolk at viclink.com Sun Jan 5 20:33:20 2003 From: carolk at viclink.com (carolk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: A IE 6.0 patch Message-ID: <04332034322376@omclust1.macnet.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030105/e69c6c34/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: audio/x-wav Size: 90876 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030105/e69c6c34/attachment.wav From nelsoncheek at newportnet.com Sun Jan 5 19:38:48 2003 From: nelsoncheek at newportnet.com (nelsoncheek) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Newport LESSER GOLDFINCH Message-ID: This afternoon Chuck Philo was looking for a possible Cassin's Finch reported at a homeowner's feeder in north Newport. He didn't find it, but he did find a LESSER GOLDFINCH in the neighbor's yard. Great find, and a nice Count Week addition for the Yaquina Bay CBC. Rebecca Cheek South Beach, OR 97366 nelsoncheek@newportnet.com From acontrer at mindspring.com Sun Jan 5 20:39:32 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Baltimore Oriole Message-ID: Diane posted good info about this oriole. We found it late this morning after being tipped off as to the neighborhood it is in. It seems to move around a bit but uses these yards a lot. The Kingwood site has a huge hedge of some kind of monster rhodies or something, where the oriole crept about with some robins and Varied thrushes. Then it would hop out into the open - no sight more startling than an adult male Baltimore suddenly appearing in bright sun on a CBC. Noah should have some good photos which will make their way onto Greg's rare bird page and into OB. The Laurel site is a rather exposed suet feeder right near the street that the bird comes to regularly. The bird has apparently been there since October. We did not see the "paler" oriole said to be around, but of course this could well be another species. This is a second Lane County record and the second winter record for Oregon, I think. There was one in subtropical Brookings about 10 years back.. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From smithdwd at hotmail.com Sun Jan 5 20:58:30 2003 From: smithdwd at hotmail.com (david smith) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: White Throated Sparrow, Cedar Mill Wetland, Wa Co Message-ID: In the Wetland Conservancy property on Barnes Rd, east of Salzman I found a WTSP 100 yards east of the gate at the NE entrance. It was along the fence line bordering Tuefels. It was feeding near the north waterline of the first pond. It was 5:00 pm. Tan/grey stripe(dusk) but throat(with vertical stripes), rufous wings, breast and back streaking, were visible. David Smith _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 5 21:17:59 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Airlie-Albany CBC section highlights Message-ID: <20030106051759.21457.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Obolers, Today, Paul Sullivan and I birded the Simpson Park and Dever Conner area for the count. Despite foggy conditions, we came up with 49 species in Simpson Park and a total of 73 species in the whole area. The good birds of the day were - SHORT-EARED OWL - We saw 4 at 3PM on Conser Rd just west of the railroad tracks. They put on a great show, flying around the grass field and vocalizing HUTTON'S VIREO - one in Simpson Park GREAT EGRET - We saw one in Simpson Park and a flock of 21 feeding in a flooded field on the other side of the street where the SE Owls were. EURASIAN WIGEON - One drake in Simpson Park HERRING GULL - One in Simpson Park WESTERN BLUEBIRD - Two at the north end of a spur road off of Conser Rd WHITE-THROATED SPARROW - one at a feeder on Hoefer Rd (where the Harris and Clay-colored Sparrows were last winter) SPOTTED SANDPIPER - one at Bowman Park near Simpson Park BROWN-HEADED COWBIRD - 10 birds at the same location as the Bluebirds All in all a great day of birding and once again, thanks Paul for making another CBC a memorable event for me :) Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From philliplc at harborside.com Sun Jan 5 21:54:38 2003 From: philliplc at harborside.com (Phil Pickering) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Pretty seagull References: Message-ID: <042f01c2b548$1b7f5e40$6501a8c0@byron> Sorry, it was late and I was out of it when I posted that... The last sentence I wrote is true, but irrelevant - the bird is clearly a 2nd-winter based on pale bill base, paling eye, more irregular marbled, rather than checkered appearance to the covert and tertial markings, and (for Thayer's) lack of solidly dark- centered juvenile scaps which virtually all retain into their second calendar year. The amount of gray in the mantle of 2nd-winter Thayer's is highly variable, or at least it appears to be - it may be that there are sub-stages of back/scapular molt that are variable in timing that aren't well-understood. In any case, some 2nd-winter show mostly adult-gray back and scaps, while others show only scattered small patches - if much at all. A similar 2nd-winter taken at D River in March is at - http://www.harborside.com/~philliplc/gull016.jpg Note that there is also a lot of varability in the timing of when the bill pales, which seems to be the case with most large gulls. And if anyone ever sees a gull in Oregon that looks exactly like #3 in Michael's quiz - call me!!!! ^ _ ^ Phil ---- Original Message ----- From: "KACastelein and DJLauten" To: "Obol" Cc: "Obol" Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Pretty seagull > I tend to agree with Phil that this is a Thayer's Gull, but Phil, I am > confused about your last sentences > > Phil Pickering wrote: > > > > And, as Alan indicated, the vast majority (virtually all?) 1st-winter R-b > > should have molted the majority of their juv. scaps/coverts/tertials > > by January - and show a much more adult-like appearance than > > this bird, with a near-complete adult gray mantle and black tertials. > > The opposite is true for "1st-winter" Thayer's, which typically retain > > most of their juvenile plumage into spring. > > > > > You indicated the bird was a second winter bird in your first paragraph, > so then why are we talking about a 1st winter Thayer's retaining juvenal > plumage (not juvenile plumage, sorry to be picky)? Furthermore, a > second winter Thayer's should have almost a complete gray back, as most > if not all the mantle and scaps should have molted into adult colors, > something this bird has no sign of. > > Is this a first winter bird, or a second winter bird? > > Dave Lauten > Bandon OR > birdsong@harborside.com > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Phil > > philliplc@harborside.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alan Contreras" > > To: "Obol" > > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:52 PM > > Subject: Pretty seagull > > > > > > > >>I am not a gull expert but after eliminating a few things I suspect that > >>this is a darkish first-year Ring-bill that has not had the decency to > >> > > molt > > > >>in a timely fashion. > >> > >>My first reaction was Thayer's but the tertials look too pale and splotchy > >>and the whole pattern is too uneven. Also a first-winter Thayer's ought > >> > > to > > > >>have an all-dark bill, maybe a bit longer than this bird. > >> > >>It seems to be getting the dark covert centers that a winter Ring-bill > >> > > would > > > >>have, and the center of the back may well be coming in as pale gray, a > >>couple of months late. > >> > >> -- > >>Alan Contreras > >>Eugene, Oregon > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sjag2 at juno.com Sun Jan 5 22:23:43 2003 From: sjag2 at juno.com (Steven J/. Jaggers) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Oriole in Portland? Message-ID: <20030105.222344.-954551.1.sjag2@juno.com> Hello All, Alan's post about a Baltimore Oriole reminds me that two customers have mentioned seeing a Baltimore Oriole in the past week or so. The BackYard Bird Shop (where I work) is at 3574 SE Hawthorne, one report, Dec. 30th, was from 27th and Belmont...bird seen eating at old fruit (Apple?) tree. Second report, Jan. 5th., from a home in the vicinity...just south of Hawthorne I believe. Anyone in the vicinity seeing an Oriole? Steve Jaggers sjag2@juno.com From jmeredit at bendnet.com Sun Jan 5 22:43:02 2003 From: jmeredit at bendnet.com (Judy Meredith) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Fw: Lane Co. Coast BALTIMORE Oriole Message-ID: <002601c2b54e$dca0d6c0$5024a3ce@joem> Additional info about looking for the bird although we did not see it. The woman at 391 Kingwood says that the birds come each morning at about 8:15 . She welcomes birders. Flash your binos and just walk back, she said that was OK with her. Walk behind the house and look into the narrow space between the house and the tall hedge. She sees the birds around there at her 2 suet feeders. Judy Meredith jmeredit@bendnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Pettey" > During the Florence Christmas Bird Count today, a BALTIMORE ORIOLE was > confirmed by Alan Contreras, Noah Strycker (photos obtained), et.al. > From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Sun Jan 5 22:26:38 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Audubon Birding Weekend -- Jan 10-11 Message-ID: <002d01c2b54e$ef4135e0$07c063d8@pauls> The first trip of the new series: Audubon Birding Weekends will be going to Curry county this coming weekend, Jan. 11-12, 2003. We aim to escape the colder weather and enjoy Oregon's palm-tree coast. We'll bird from Brookings to Langlois, looking for seabirds, waterfowl, and specialties like Red-shouldered Hawk and Black Phoebe. Registration is $25 per person. If you are interested, contact me: Paul T. Sullivan, 4470 SW Murray Blvd. #26, Beaverton, OR 97005 ptsulliv@spiritone.com Audubon Birding Weekends (503) 646-7889 http://www.audubonportland.org/birds/weekends.html From dbagues at earthlink.net Sun Jan 5 23:40:09 2003 From: dbagues at earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Diane_Bag=FC=E9s?=) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: California Condors Message-ID: <001001c2b556$d6e5e240$6401a8c0@happyuser> Hi, I anticipate being in northern Arizona, and southern and coastal California, in the next week or two. Can anybody tell me my odds of seeing a California Condor, and where? Are there any good birding spots from Sedona north to the Arizona border? How about the San Diego area? (I've got books for northern California, but had never planned on getting to the south part of the state.) Thank you. Diane Bagues Milwaukie, Oregon dbagues@earthlink.net From bigrocketman3 at webtv.net Mon Jan 6 01:30:00 2003 From: bigrocketman3 at webtv.net (Steve McDonald) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: California Condor Hotspots Message-ID: <24726-3E194C98-6866@storefull-2116.public.lawson.webtv.net> If you ask Steve Schubert, the Director of the High Mountain Condor Project, I'm sure he'll give you a good list of likely viewing locations for some of these birds. His address is: s_schub@webtv.net Steve McDonald From FoxSparrows at aol.com Mon Jan 6 06:39:13 2003 From: FoxSparrows at aol.com (FoxSparrows@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Great Gray Owl/Lane County Message-ID: <55.35678107.2b4aef11@aol.com> In a message dated 1/5/2003 7:01:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, newhouse@efn.org writes: > With apologies to Dave I., I'll do a running total for the month for GG > owls in Oregon. Score so far: > > Lane County (1) > Coos County (0) > Other counties (0) > NOT SO FAST! I saw and photographed one of the silver Falls birds on Friday and saturday.... Add one for Marion County - Total tally - 2! Steve Dowlan, Editor OREGON BIRDS The Quarterly Journal of the Oregon Field Ornithology P.O. Box 220 Mehama, OR 97384 OregonBirds@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030106/7cf045b7/attachment.htm From nelsoncheek at newportnet.com Mon Jan 6 08:23:19 2003 From: nelsoncheek at newportnet.com (nelsoncheek) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Yellow-shafted Flicker - Newport area Message-ID: On Saturday's CBC, Bob Loeffel and I were covering an area of gated private land south of Yaquina River when we happened on a Northern Flicker that was intent on excavating an anthill in the track ahead of us. As the bird showed no inclination to fly, we edged the truck up for a good long look. The bird had a very brown face and throat, distinct gray crown and nape, red chevron on nape, no malar stripe, and - when it finally flushed - bright yellow wing and tail linings. After a few winters of looking at intergrade flickers in my yard and being endlessly confused by their varied combinations of plumage traits (why I'm not yet studying gull hybrids!), I was thinking the female "Yellow-shafted" bird should have a black malar and no chevron, so we were joking that this was a "Gelded" Flicker. But at the countdown that evening, Paul Sullivan kindly corrected me; we had been looking at a "regulation" female Yellow-shafted Northern Flicker. Interesting bird! Rebecca Cheek South Beach, OR 97366 nelsoncheek@newportnet.com From celata at pacifier.com Mon Jan 6 11:20:14 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:36 2004 Subject: Columbia Estaury Report - 01/06/2003 Message-ID: <3E19D6EF.A029F5D7@pacifier.com> Columbia Estaury Report - 01/06/2003 A YELLOW-HEADED BLACKBIRD has been coming to a feeder in Gearhart in the company of a large mixed blackbird flock. At least one and possibly 2 ORANGE-CROWNED WARBLERS are coming to Bucky Barnett's hummingbird feeder in Astoria. And yes, they're drinking out of the feeder. A sweep of bird feeders in the Alderbrook area of Astoria produced lots of FOX and SONG SPARROWS, but the only Zonos were two GOLDEN-CROWNED SPARROWS. Didn't find any owls either.... -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From Environmental at attbi.com Mon Jan 6 11:26:29 2003 From: Environmental at attbi.com (Environmental Restoration, Inc.) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Virus Alert References: Message-ID: <001b01c2b5b9$83d13ba0$9b1de00c@attbi.com> OBOL Just picked up the Klez virus from an OBOL e-mail this morning. From paul.t.sullivan at opbu.xerox.com Mon Jan 6 11:39:41 2003 From: paul.t.sullivan at opbu.xerox.com (Sullivan, Paul T) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Vancouver Canada Geese (Yamhill Co.) - where. Message-ID: Jeff Gilligan wrote: Subject: Vancouver Canada Geese (Yamhill Co.) - where. From: Jeff Gilligan Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:32:27 -0800 I have long been interested in a purely scientific way in the Vancouver Canada Geese that are said to winter somewhere in Yamhill County. Does anyone have any ideas where to look? Tom Love? Floyd Schrock? (As an aside, the Washington Bean Goose was said to have been with a small flock of Vancouver Canadas, and has departed the Grays Harbor area.) Feel free to respond to me directly so as not to burden the rest of OBOL with this scientific stuff. Jeff. -------------------- Jeff, I, too, have a long-standing interest in the subspecies of Canada geese, especially this one, Vancouver Canada Geese. It is refreshing to find a kindred spirit. ;-) At the risk of burdening OBOL with scientific stuff, let me suggest that you look for the Bean Goose in the masses of Canada Geese along Briedwell Rd. and south of Briedwell and north of the Brigitine Monastery, west of Broadmead Rd. That's SW of Amity, just north of the Polk county line, in the bottoms near the Yamhill River. ;-) Alternatively, you can look in the bottoms on the west side of the Willamette River south of Dayton off Hwy 221. Tryu Mallard Ln., Grand Island Loop, etc. I tried to get this to you before the weekend, but my address book misfired. Sorry. Good birding! Paul Sullivan From Irons5 at aol.com Mon Jan 6 11:43:12 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: OBOL: White-throated Sparrow update Message-ID: <142.7033e9c.2b4b3650@aol.com> The White-throated Sparrow tally has now eclipsed the total found last year and stands at 188 birds. Tim Rodenkirk has undertaken a one-man mission in Coos County in an effort to protect their lead. Over the weekend he found 6 more in the neighborhoods around his home. He also was able to track down a number of reports from Curry Co. which now has a total of 21 birds reported. The following counties have now reached double figures. Coos 50 Lane 44 Benton 26 Curry 21 Washington 10 All these counties have reported greater numbers than last year. I think this is a bi-product of greater awareness and effort on the part of local observers. I appreciate the dilligent efforts of all those who have made reports. I will continue to keep track of White-throats found thru Jan 31 and then provide a summary like last year. I am considering a couple other species to work on next winter. Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From Arkaeoptrx at aol.com Mon Jan 6 11:52:08 2003 From: Arkaeoptrx at aol.com (Arkaeoptrx@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: 01/05/03 - Union County : SHORT-EARED OWL Message-ID: <174.14b5a129.2b4b3868@aol.com> Birders - Mariah Rose and I found our first SHORT-EARED OWL in the county yesterday evening. It was originally spotted between Peach Road and HWY 203, perched on a survey post. We are lucky to have stopped the vehicle and got out the scope. At this extremely long range, if it hadn't been for it's slight different silhouette, we probably would have passed it up for a Red-tail or Rough-legged. I had birded this area a fair amount previously to our relocation here and we have looked for this species since our arrival in Union County beginning in July of 2001. Finally! One less nemesis bird here, Karl and Renee. Good Birding, Trent Bray La Grande,OR arkaeoptrx@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030106/c88b1920/attachment.htm From jeffgill at teleport.com Mon Jan 6 11:11:11 2003 From: jeffgill at teleport.com (Jeff Gilligan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: FW: goose search (northern Willamette Valley). In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ---------- From: Jeff Gilligan Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:17:02 -0800 To: Subject: goose search (northern Willamette Valley). Jim Johnson, Owen Schmidt and I looked through a few thousand Canada Geese on Saturday in Polk, Marion, and to a much lesser extent, in Yamhill Counties. Our quest was to find the small flock of Vancouver Canada Geese (B.c. fulva) with which the Gray's Harbor Bean Goose was associating. At last report the Bean Goose and its Vancouver Canada Geese flock had departed the Gray's Harbor area. Since it has been reported that the Vancouver Canadas primarily winter in the northern Willamette Valley, it was our hope to find the Bean Goose with the flock that it was with in Washington. While we are sure that we did not see all of the geese in the above mentioned counties, we were unable to locate the Bean Goose. Perhaps it is still in Washington (the coast or lower Columbia River areas), or has arrived in Oregon. Since far more geese winter in the Willamette Valley, that seems like a reasonable place to look (as was suggested recently by Steve Mladnow). We plan additional trips in coming weekends to other western Oregon locations to continue the search. Birds of interest that we saw today were: 1 Prairie Falcon along Hwy. 99 W near Baskett Slough NWR 1 adult White-fronted goose at Baskett Slough NWR about 80 Horned Larks at Baskett Slough NWR 2 Barn Swallows at Ankeny NWR From dan at heyerly.com Mon Jan 6 12:14:35 2003 From: dan at heyerly.com (Dan Heyerly) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Balt.Oriole still in Florence, Lane co. 1/6/03 Message-ID: <000b01c2b5c0$426d41c0$06fea8c0@knowledge1> The adult male BALTIMORE ORIOLE showed up twice this morning at the suet feeders previously described by Diane Pettey and Judy Meredith. On schedule at 815am (while all the birders were in the street comparing White-throated Sparrow numbers (Rodenkirk, Pettey, Lauten, Kastelein, and Heyerly) and then again sometime around 915am after the owner waved us into the back yard and SET UP CHAIRS!! Beautiful bird. Dan dan@heyerly.com From jdkemperRVM at charter.net Mon Jan 6 12:41:32 2003 From: jdkemperRVM at charter.net (John D. Kemper) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: California Condors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is in answer to your query about California Condors (repeated below). I am also sending a copy to OBOL, since I think other people may be interested. Believe it or not, one place California Condors have been seen is roosting in the redwood trees near Big Sur Lodge, at Pfeiffer-Big Sur State Park. A number of Condors have been released nearby, in the Ventana Wilderness. Also, Condors have been released near the Vermilion Cliffs, just north of the Arizona-Utah border along Highway 89 between Page and Kanab. A lot of people have seen them there. I should add that I have tried to see Condors at both of these locations and have failed. At Big Sur, I am told I should have been there at first light, to see the Condors, and that they had departed for the day by the time I arrived. The Fall 2002 issue of "Condor News" says that the best places to see Condors are as follows (I am quoting them exactly): "Southern California Condor observation locations: - Take Goodenough Rd to the Condor Observation Point at Dough Flat above Fillmore in Ventura County. - At the "Leaving Bitter Creek National Wildlife Refuge" sign off Cerro Noreste Rd. in Kern County. - The top of McPherson Peak on the Sierra Madre Ridge in Santa Barbara County or the top of Pine Mountain in Ventura County. "Ventana Condor observation locations: - Pfeiffer-Big Sur State Park, and the Highway 1 pull-offs between the Esalen Institute and the Little Sur River." As I mentioned, I failed at the Big Sur site. I also have failed at the Highway 1 pull-offs, and at the Cerro Noreste Rd. site in Kern County. I am unfamiliar with the other locations quoted above. In their Fall 2002 newsletter, they also say, "Before you go, check with our office for the most recent sightings." The phone number given in the newsletter is (805) 644-5185, and the address is California Condor Recovery Program, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, P.O. Box 5839, Ventura, CA 93003. The e-mail address is Note that the "1" in the "r1" is the numeral "1" and not the lower-case letter "l". All of the Condors are captive birds that have been released into the wild, with the exception of three chicks which hatched in the wild successfully last spring, and may have made it to fledging in the fall. I'm not aware of any in the San Diego area, except for the ones kept at the San Diego Wild Animal Park for breeding purposes. I understand there have been some recent releases in Baja. Good luck! John Kemper At 11:40 PM 1/5/03 -0800, you wrote: >Hi, > >I anticipate being in northern Arizona, and southern and coastal California, >in the next week or two. Can anybody tell me my odds of seeing a California >Condor, and where? Are there any good birding spots from Sedona north to >the Arizona border? >How about the San Diego area? (I've got books for northern California, but >had never planned on getting to the south part of the state.) > >Thank you. >Diane Bagues >Milwaukie, Oregon >dbagues@earthlink.net > John D. Kemper Medford, Oregon jdkemperRVM@charter.net From woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 6 14:45:49 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com (J. Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Eurasian Gr.-w. Teal: separate species or not? Message-ID: <20030106224549.64857.qmail@web13606.mail.yahoo.com> Can someone with access to or knowledge of the correct references please verify whether or not Eurasian Green-winged Teal is considered a separate species from Green-winged Teal by the AOU, thus countable for ABA and OFO listing? My memory says NOT, but as listing coordinator I've had more than one query and I prefer not to trust only my memory. Please post on OBOL so all will be informed. Thanks! Jamie Corvallis woodpecker97330@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us Mon Jan 6 15:45:46 2003 From: Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Eurasian Gr.-w. Teal: separate species or not? Message-ID: <3514F6D1DB66D311809D009027856D0801045576@mercury.osac.state.or.us> Eurasian is NOT separated by AOU at this time. However, taxonomist Ralph Browning now treats it as a separate species based on material published in Europe, and the new Birds of Oregon book separates it that way. We also separate the Brant again. I do not know what ABA will do with this species. Alan L. Contreras From Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us Mon Jan 6 16:02:49 2003 From: Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Birds of Oregon Message-ID: <3514F6D1DB66D311809D009027856D08010455A5@mercury.osac.state.or.us> I have had some inquiries about when the new Birds of Oregon book edited by Dave Marshall et al. will be available. The text is complete, the page layout will be ready by late January and it goes to the printer sometime in February, with a scheduled release date of May 22. It will be about 750 pages, with maps from the Atlas project, about 4,000 citations to additional information, 60-plus illustrations by Elva Hamerstrom Paulson and a retail price of $65.00. It will only be available in hardcover. If all goes well the first easily accessible copies on the streets will actually be at the Malheur Field Station store on Memorial Day weekend (got that, LylaDuncan?), where we may try to set up a signing event. It will also be available at the ABA convention in Eugene the first week of June. There will probably be signing events at Portland Audubon, the OSU Bookstore in Corvallis, the UO Museum of Natural History in Eugene and ideally at sites in Medford and Bend. Possibly Roseburg since Elva lives there. Much of this is TBA, this is just an outline. Alan L. Contreras Director, Policy and Research Administrator, Office of Degree Authorization Oregon Student Assistance Commission 1500 Valley River Drive No. 100 Eugene OR 97401 (541) 687-7452 fax (541) 687-7419 Information: http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda Alan.L.Contreras@state.or.us Messages to and from this e-mail address may be available to the public under Oregon law. From rkorpi at hotmail.com Mon Jan 6 16:06:52 2003 From: rkorpi at hotmail.com (Ray Korpi) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: OFO Weekends Update Message-ID: Friends, I am writing you today to announce a postponement in the January 2003 OFO Weekend in Union Co. Originally scheduled for January 18 and 19, the weekend will now take place on December 6 and 7, 2003. Because of a last-minute change (this occurred last Thursday) in my teaching and meeting schedule at Clark, I am required to be available on the afternoon of January 17 and will not be able to get to LaGrande in time to run the trip. After consulting with OFO board members this weekend, I thought it best to postpone the trip at this point since no one had formally registered. I have rescheduled the trip to December 6-7 as this will allow us to search for the same target species that we would have found in January. I can tell you that I am very excited about the Coos Bay weekend that will occur on February 15 and 16, which already has registrants. I have been and will be keeping in touch with Tim Rodenkirk on the Coos Bay bird life, and really look forward to leading this trip and the rest of the schedule of trips. With the great birds that have been seen in the Coos Bay area the last three weeks, I know we'll have a spectacular trip!! Also, if you are thinking about the Klamath Nights trip in June, get your registrations in soon as the trip is filling fast (already 9 registrations). All trips, except the OFO Service Weekend, are still only $15. The rest of the OFO Weekend schedule is available at www.oregonbirds.org, and I will be adding October and November trips soon (and if you have location suggestions, let me know!!). I have missed leading as many trips the last couple of years, and I am really excited about going out in the field with folks this year. Hopefully, I'll see many of you on an OFO Weekend. Ray Korpi rkorpi@hotmail.com Vancouver WA _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From birdsong at harborside.com Mon Jan 6 17:09:13 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Balt.Oriole still in Florence, Lane co. 1/6/03 References: Message-ID: <3E1A28B9.6050102@harborside.com> Folks, As Dan says the BALTIMORE ORIOLE was at the feeder this morning. I got about five minutes of fairly excellent video footage. Will try to post some still images tonight. Also, between 10:00AM and 12:30 PM we saw 12 BARN SWALLOWS headed north over Sutton Beach. Diane, you did get Snowy Plover on the Florence CBC, right? Total today from North Siuslaw to Sutton was 21. Cheers Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com Dan Heyerly wrote: > The adult male BALTIMORE ORIOLE showed up twice this morning at the suet > feeders previously described by Diane Pettey and Judy Meredith. On schedule > at 815am (while all the birders were in the street comparing White-throated > Sparrow numbers (Rodenkirk, Pettey, Lauten, Kastelein, and Heyerly) and then > again sometime around 915am after the owner waved us into the back yard and > SET UP CHAIRS!! > > Beautiful bird. > > Dan > > dan@heyerly.com > > > > > > From Tanyabray at msn.com Mon Jan 6 17:36:45 2003 From: Tanyabray at msn.com (Tanya Bray) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Barn Swallow- Yachats Message-ID: After seeing the BALTIMORE ORIOLE in Florence this morning about 10:00 a.m. (beautiful bird), I drove on up the coast, stopping several places. At Smelt Sands SP on the north side of Yachats, there were about 120 SURFBIRDS, 53 BLACK TURNSTONES, 1 SANDERLING, and zero Rock Sandpipers. But one BARN SWALLOW flew (or was blown!) over the parking lot. Nothing else unusual; a nice male HARLEQUIN DUCK at the Newport South Jetty. Tanya Bray tanyabray@msn.com CorvallisGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030106/1485c995/attachment.htm From crmiller at bendnet.com Mon Jan 6 17:37:19 2003 From: crmiller at bendnet.com (Craig Miller) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Bean Goose - anyone seen it? Message-ID: <002601c2b5ed$5c2fac60$1e24a3ce@craigmil> If anyone sees the Bean Goose, could you email asap!!!! or call 541-389-9115 Thanks! Marilyn Miller -----Original Message----- From: Sullivan, Paul T To: Obol Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: Re:Vancouver Canada Geese (Yamhill Co.) - where. > >Jeff Gilligan wrote: > > >Subject: Vancouver Canada Geese (Yamhill Co.) - where. >From: Jeff Gilligan >Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:32:27 -0800 >I have long been interested in a purely scientific way in the Vancouver >Canada Geese that are said to winter somewhere in Yamhill County. Does >anyone have any ideas where to look? Tom Love? Floyd Schrock? > >(As an aside, the Washington Bean Goose was said to have been with a small >flock of Vancouver Canadas, and has departed the Grays Harbor area.) > >Feel free to respond to me directly so as not to burden the rest of OBOL >with this scientific stuff. Jeff. > >-------------------- >Jeff, > >I, too, have a long-standing interest in the subspecies of Canada geese, especially this one, Vancouver Canada Geese. It is refreshing to find a kindred spirit. ;-) > >At the risk of burdening OBOL with scientific stuff, let me suggest that you look for the Bean Goose in the masses of Canada Geese along Briedwell Rd. and south of Briedwell and north of the Brigitine Monastery, west of Broadmead Rd. That's SW of Amity, just north of the Polk county line, in the bottoms near the Yamhill River. ;-) > >Alternatively, you can look in the bottoms on the west side of the Willamette River south of Dayton off Hwy 221. Tryu Mallard Ln., Grand Island Loop, etc. > >I tried to get this to you before the weekend, but my address book misfired. Sorry. > >Good birding! > >Paul Sullivan > > > From dondewitt at hotmail.com Mon Jan 6 17:48:11 2003 From: dondewitt at hotmail.com (Don DeWitt) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Eugene Palm Warbler still present Message-ID: OBOL, The Stewart Park PALM WARBLER was available for nice views in the sunshine late this afternoon, Jan. 6. It was in the thicket of ten-foot tall willows south of the pond, out toward Bertelsen. Diane Horgan arrived and the two of us, aided by her dog, Bear, relocated the bird about 100 feet away from where I had found it. This time it was very near the southwest corner of the large pond. The bird often drops to the ground and disappears among the willows. It travels, too. On the way back to the truck I saw it again some 50 feet farther east from where it had been 5 minutes earlier. Walking back, I watched as the flock of approximately 80 Dowitchers wheeled around Stewart Pond a couple of times and then flew off to the west, disappearing over the top of The No Name Garage. Don DeWitt _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From dondewitt at hotmail.com Mon Jan 6 18:18:20 2003 From: dondewitt at hotmail.com (Don DeWitt) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Polk County White-throated Sparrows, and Chipping Sparrow Message-ID: OBOL, Yesterday, Jan. 5, I found 4 WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS in the section of the Airlie-Albany CBC in the section north of the Buena Vista Ferry. More specifically, 3 were in a mixed flock about 100 yards up Hadley Road. The first one was in a berry thicket back at the turn where Wells Landing Road nears the river. It was with several Fox Sp. and Golden-crown and White-crown adults and immatures. While I was at this location, a wave of Dark-eyed Juncos swept through from left to right, dozens of them pausing briefly and then moving on. I estimated there were 50 in this group. As they passed, I had good side-by-side views of a CHIPPING SPARROW alongside a Junco. The sparrow was obviously smaller than the Juncos, was grayish, with clear, gray underparts and nape, and showed a very dark line through and behind the eye. Also, there was a rufous cap or maybe slightly divided lines of rufous, on the cap. It looked much like the CHSP I see frequently in summer, except showing less contrast on the face. When I returned to this location about 4 hours later, the White-throat was still "chinking" there, but the Junco flock was no longer around. Further along on that route, on Wigney Road, I checked filbert orchards where Chipping Sparrows were found last winter, including on the CBC. There were Junco flocks all along there but they tended to stay in tree tops and to move constantly. Dave Irons, sorry to let down the side, but add four White-throats to the scoresheet for Polk County. (More to come, too, when Paul Adamus reports the count results.) Don DeWitt _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From FoxSparrows at aol.com Mon Jan 6 18:21:28 2003 From: FoxSparrows at aol.com (FoxSparrows@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: OFO Weekends Update Message-ID: <194.1309662d.2b4b93a8@aol.com> In a message dated 1/6/2003 4:23:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, rkorpi@hotmail.com writes: > I can tell you that I am very excited about the Coos Bay weekend that will > occur on February 15 and 16, which already has registrants. I have been > and > will be keeping in touch with Tim Rodenkirk on the Coos Bay bird life, and > really look forward to leading this trip and the rest of the schedule of > trips. With the great birds that have been seen in the Coos Bay area the > last three weeks, I know we'll have a spectacular trip!! > Actually, there is a rumour going 'round that Tim Rodenkirk may legally change his name to "Coos Bay Bird Life...". We do not know at this point if this would apply to all of the VBE units as well. We presumably would refer to him as "Mr. Bay," or, "Coos" for short... The master T. Rodenkirk unit claimed in a recent (nearly tearful) interview that, after his specacular 2002 Oregon year list, he would not be in the field much any more. There was some reference to the need to "paint the house", but come to think of it, he did not say which kind of house he needed to paint. Maybe it is a Purple Martin house, which is, of course, just another excuse to go birding. Since he was already sighted at the recent Baltimore Oriole location, his claims about "not listing this year" are already in doubt. His wonderful supporting spouse will continue to be known as "Holly Rodenkirk," and new Mr. Bay realizes just how lucky he is to be associated with her (she witnessed the claim about house-painting, by the way... we'll see....). Mr. Bay (all of them) will also continue to be the wonderful, good-natured, and enthusiastic birding companion and supporter of good efforts that we have all known... just a new name for a good friend... even if he fibs a little about his plans to "not bird much" in 2003. Reporting slightly after the fact, R. T. Peterson Hisself FBI, Ornithological Branch, X-files Division -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030106/08815a98/attachment.htm From kcboddie at bendnet.com Mon Jan 6 18:29:47 2003 From: kcboddie at bendnet.com (Kim Boddie) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: obol digest: January 05, 2003 References: Message-ID: <001101c2b5f4$b7514700$4a25a3ce@dn.bendnet.com> Diane, Last Oct. my wife and I saw four condors travelling south on Hgwy 1 through Big Sur. We watched a pair for several minutes about 15 miles south of Monterey, a single by Lopez PT, and another single south of Cape San Martin, for all three sightings we were just keeping our eyes open as we drove south. Two days later we saw 14 condors at the Vermilion Cliffs release site. We got there just before sunset and they were coming in to roost on the cliffs. To get to the release site observation point, go west from Navaho Bridge on hgwy 89 for approx 30 miles, the cliffs will be on your right. Just before you start the climb up to the Kaibab Plateau there will be a small white house on the right with a bunch of dead cars, buses etc. Turn right at the house and head north on the gravel road for about 2 miles. you will come to a small BLM info shelter. Stop here and look east up on the cliffs where you should see some birds roosting or flying around. you can also see the release pens on top of the cliffs. Good Luck, --kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Obol digest" To: "obol digest recipients" Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: obol digest: January 05, 2003 > OBOL Digest for Sunday, January 05, 2003. > > 1. Re: Golden Plover photo ID > 2. Yaquina Bay CBC Highlights > 3. Great Gray Owl/Lane County > 4. Coos County 1/5/03 > 5. TREE SWALLOW > 6. Klamath Falls CBC summary > 7. BARN SWALLOW, Portland > 8. Cinnamon Teal @ Jackson Bottoms > 9. Gull Quiz Anyone??? > 10. Birding News from Coos > 11. Great Gray Owl/Lane County > 12. RBA: Lane Co. Coast BALTIMORE Oriole > 13. A IE 6.0 patch > 14. Newport LESSER GOLDFINCH > 15. Baltimore Oriole > 16. White Throated Sparrow, Cedar Mill Wetland, Wa Co > 17. Airlie-Albany CBC section highlights > 18. Re: Pretty seagull > 19. Oriole in Portland? > 20. Fw: Lane Co. Coast BALTIMORE Oriole > 21. Audubon Birding Weekend -- Jan 10-11 > 22. California Condors > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Golden Plover photo ID > From: KACastelein and DJLauten > Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 08:24:31 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 1 > > Taking Mike on his word, if this plover has four primaries tips > extending beyond the tertials, I agree with Mike, it's an AMERICAN. > > Dave Lauten > > Mike Patterson wrote: > > > I brightened the image and count 4 primaries... > > > > When first asked about this photo, called it an > > American. > > > > KACastelein and DJLauten wrote: > > > >>Folks, > >> > >>I'm not sure if we can safely ID this bird from these two photos alone. > >> The first photo appears to me, on my screen, to have the buffy colored > >>supercilium and the bulbous forehead of a PACFIC. The wing extension > >>looks kind of long, but I am having trouble counting the primary tips. > >>It appears three are extending beyond the tertails, which is ok for > >>PACIFIC, but I have found that many AMERICANS often have a very short > >>gap between the two longest primaries, and if this is the case with this > >>bird, I can't see it. Plus often if PACIFICS have three primaries > >>extending beyond the tertials, often the third one is barely extending > >>beyond the tertials, but to me in the first photo it looks more like > >>this third primary (assuming it is three) is extending more than just > >>barely beyond the tertial. > >> > >>The second phote the bird does not appear to have the bulbous forehead > >>(at least not as much). The supercilium looks buffy but not as much as > >>the first photo; in both photos this could be the color of the film, the > >>lighting, etc etc. The primary extension again looks long, but I can't > >>count any tips at all. > >> > >>If the ID was based on these photos alone, I'd say Golden-plover sp. If > >> there are more details, that would be helpful. > >> > >>Dave Lauten > >>Bandon OR > >>birdsong@harborside.com > >> > >>Greg Gillson wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I have placed 2 Golden-Plover photos from this fall on my web site. These > >>>were taken at Agate Lake, by Jim Livaudais. > >>> > >>>I believe that at the time they were identified as Pacific Golden-Plover, > >>>but several people looking at the photos say it is American Golden-Plover. > >>>I'm not sure. > >>> > >>>Please take a look and make sure to copy Steve Dowlan (FoxSparrows@aol.com) > >>>in your reply, as editor of Oregon Birds where these photos are scheduled to > >>>appear. > >>> > >>>Photos are at: > >>>http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover%202.jpg > >>>http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover.jpg > >>> > >>>Thank you, > >>> > >>>Greg Gillson > >>>Cornelius, Oregon > >>>greg@thebirdguide.com > >>>http://thebirdguide.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Yaquina Bay CBC Highlights > From: "nelsoncheek" > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:55:52 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 2 > > Despite sheets of rain that arrived at 5:30 AM, 29 hardy birders got out of > bed for yesterday's Yaquina Bay CBC. Forming up into 10 field teams, they > set off into the early dark, gusty wind and sideways rain for a day of > birding fun, Oregon coast-style. Thankfully the worst of the weather was > over soon enough, and by early afternoon the day was quite nice. Morning > birding was somewhat slow (the birds had better sense than to get out of bed > in such weather) but diligent efforts by the field observers produced 128 > species, above average for this CBC. No chaseable rarities and no species > new to the count, but several that we don't get that often, including: > > SWAMP SPARROW - below the dam at the Newport reservoir (Big Creek Rd.) > SNOW BUNTING - a late-day find at the Yaquina Bay north jetty > NORTHERN SHRIKE - working the fence line along the east side of the Newport > Municipal Airport > AMERICAN DIPPER - along Elkhorn Creek > 2 GRAY JAYS - in the hills way up N. Beaver Creek Rd. > 1st winter GLAUCOUS GULL - with the gull crowd begging scraps at Mo's > Restaurant on the Newport Bayfront > MOURNING DOVE -staked out at a Toledo feeder > > There was no pelagic trip due to weather, but seawatchers spotted several > remaining BROWN PELICANS, as well as one CLARK'S GREBE, a BONAPARTE'S GULL, > 2 BLACK-LEGGED KITTIWAKES, multiple THAYER'S GULLS, >300 BLACK SCOTERS, > COMMON MURRES and a RHINOCEROS AUKLET, plus all the usual winter gulls, > scoters, loons and grebes. There were small numbers of REDHEADS and > CANVASBACKS in Sally's Bend, and 3 EURASIAN WIGEON at Idaho Flats and in > Hidden Valley. Inland teams found several RUFFED GROUSE but no quail. No > owls, but good numbers of other raptors: BALD EAGLES, many RED-TAILED HAWKS, > 4 PEREGRINE FALCONS, a MERLIN, several AMERICAN KESTRELS, SHARP-SHINNED > HAWKS, NORTHERN HARRIERS and WHITE-TAILED KITES. The RED-SHOULDERED HAWK > that has lately been resident around the Hatfield Marine Science Center area > was not seen, but one (possibly the same bird?) was located across the bay > in Yaquina Bay State Park. And efforts of field teams plus 6 feeder > watchers turned up 17 ANNA'S HUMMINGBIRDS, blowing away the previous high > count of 5 for this species. > > Thanks to all the local and visiting birders whose skill and enthusiasm > produced such a successful CBC! > > Rebecca Cheek, Compiler > South Beach, OR 97366 > nelsoncheek@newportnet.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Great Gray Owl/Lane County > From: Bruce Newhouse > Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 11:30:38 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 3 > > A friend of mine has a visitor: a GREAT GRAY OWL is hanging out around > her place near Fall Creek, at about 1000 feet elevation. (The exact > location will remain confidential, sorry.) > > She has a wonderful digital photo of it sitting on a post, and is trying > for more photos today. If Oregon Birds would like one, please e-mail me > personally and I'll hook you up with her. > > Bruce Newhouse in Eugene > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Coos County 1/5/03 > From: Tim Rodenkirk > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 16:52:06 -0800 (PST) > X-Message-Number: 4 > > T'was a glorious day in Coos Bay, we broke our record > high, it was a scorching 65F. I had to take a cruise > around a few neighborhoods in the AM and look for > birds, here are the highlights: > > 2- ORANGE-CROWNED WARBLERS > 6- LESSER GOLDFINCHS (tough bird to find around here) > 1- CEDAR WAXWING (we always seem to miss this on our > CBC and did so again this year) > 1- WHITE-THROATED SPARROW (that makes six in the past > two days) > > Also had over 300 Pine Siskins (twice what we had on > the CBC), five Red-breasted Nuthatches, & five > Townsend's Warblers. > > The Florence count must have had fabulous weather > also, wonder how it went? > > ENJOY! > Tim R > Coos Bay > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: TREE SWALLOW > From: "David Copeland" > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:11:14 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 5 > > > A lone TREE SWALLOW was flying over the Philomath sewer ponds (second > pond) this morning. > Dave Copeland > Keizer > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Klamath Falls CBC summary > From: "Kevin Spencer" > Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 18:23:57 -0700 > X-Message-Number: 6 > > OBOL, > Very warm yesterday in Klamath Falls yesterday, 4 Jan. > Some wind in am, but died down to almost zero in pm. > Species: 101. Total individuals: 35,262 > Corvid numbers way up in all local species > Finch numbers up except Pine Siskin which was close to > nil. > Rare species on count: Ferruginous Hawk-2, Wood Duck-1, > Chestnut-backed Chickadee-1, Mountain Quail-8, > Williamson's Sapsucker-2, White-headed Woodpecker-1, > Varied Thrush-2, Harris's Sparrow-1, and Double-crested > Cormorant-1 > > Kevin Spencer > kspencer@tulesd.tulelake.k12.ca.us > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: BARN SWALLOW, Portland > From: "pamela johnston" > Date: 5 Jan 2003 17:33:09 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 7 > > At 3:45PM, I saw a Barn Swallow flying west along the bank of the Columbia > River between I-205 and the Sea Scout Base, as I was driving along NE Marine > Dr. Fortunately, I maintained control of the vehicle and didn't drive off > the levee. > > The Western Grebes were in their accustomed spot off Broughton's Beach, and > no loons were on hand. > > Pamela Johnston > Mt Tabor > Portland, OR > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Cinnamon Teal @ Jackson Bottoms > From: M K > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:40:39 -0800 (PST) > X-Message-Number: 8 > > Dear Obol, > > Having moved to Portland recently I don't know how > common it is to find a Cinnamon Teal in January. So, > for what it is wirth there are two CINNAMON TEALS at > Jackson Bottoms. > > Mahesh Ketkar > Hillsboro > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Gull Quiz Anyone??? > From: "Michael G. Shepard" > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 18:51:54 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 9 > > Greetings all laridophiles (and laridophobes for that matter)! > > Thanks to Mike Patterson for forwarding an earlier message regarding a young > gull photographed at Clover Point BC. Quite a few Oregon birders have given > input - I'll be compiling a summary of responses soon and will let you know. > > Last May, I acquired a digital camera - it's causing me to look more closely > at birds. I thought I would be snapping and looking later, but no dice! > > Anyway, I've posted a miniature gull quiz (the quiz is small, not the > gulls). It has some toughies and some easier ones, and there's a bit of > humour thrown in as well. > > The first one is the bird I asked about a few days ago, and the rest are > birds photographed today (January 5, 2003) along the Victoria waterfront. > > The quiz is posted at http://216.21.159.146/birds/seagull.html Your > comments would be appreciated. > > I've also spent quite a bit of time over the past few weeks updating the > North American Bird Information Web Site. Check out the recent postings > section: > http://www.islandnet.com/~mgs/birds/recentpostings.html > > I'm also starting to incorporate many more photos into the site. If you > have any to share, I would love to hear from you. > > Have fun!!! > > Michael G. Shepard > Victoria BC > North American Bird Information Web Site: > http://www.islandnet.com/~mgs/birds/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Birding News from Coos > From: KACastelein and DJLauten > Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 18:58:39 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 10 > > 1/5/03 Coos Cty > > Ok folks, > > We thought we'd get in on this sparrow contest thing. First, Kathy and > I headed to Coos Bay North Spit to look for the AMERICAN TREE SPARROW. > This little fella has been eluding us at all costs. After searching > today and finding no PALM WARLBERS or TREE SPARROW, we have decided that > Tim Rodenkirk has conspired with other well known birders (I think one > Sundstrom is involved, and maybe a Gillson) to get us out into the field > by posting such good county birds. BA-HUMBUG! There is no such thing > as a TREE SPARROW in Coos Cty, I simply refuse to believe it. However, > we can't really complain much as it was sunny (wow!) and something like > 70 degrees and no wind. Global warming can be a good thing. : ) > > As a consolation prize, we found one male REDHEAD and three female > REDHEADS on the effluent pond. That's four times the CBC total. > > Then we headed over to the supposed CLAY-COLORED SPARROW spot. Another > fictious bird that got us into the field. However there were nice > numbers of sparrows in the field, which we worked over hard. This > location has previously had one WHITE-THROATED SPARROW, but, HA! we > found TWO! So IRONS, add it up and tack it on, Coos Cty ain't dead yet! > And just think Bandon city has not been combed over yet.....so Lane > Cty start sweating! > > With that said, I think we need to be a little bit more fair about this. > Looking at the map, I see Lane Cty must be 3 times or more the size of > Coos. Therefore one has to adjust for the number of WHITE-THROATED > SPARROWS by dividing Lane Cty's total by a factor of about 3 or so. > AND, since Lane has a considerable amount more birders, especially > competent ones, than Coos, we need to add another factor to the > equation. So, the total number of WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS for this > contest should be equal to: # of WTSP/# of square miles/# of birders, or > something like that. Obviously Coos Cty would come out on top, unless > of course those stellar, or is it steller, Lane Cty birders get off > their bottoms and find a considerable more WTSP's. > > Finally, and most importantly (I have had to do this in the past and am > wondering when it is going to end!!!!!?????), that shy fella we all know > well, Mr. Trodenki, aka Tim Rodenkirk, has done it again. Tim > I-am-not-listing-this-year Rodenkirk, did just the opposite in 2002 > (surprise surprise!). He listed again (are you getting tired of > this???). But this time he went for the big one, that YEAR STATE LIST. > Yep, you guessed right, Mr. Trodenki did in fact (as long as we can > all believe him, I certainly have my doubts.....Tree > Sparrow...uh-huh...) beat the old state year list record, which I > believe was a very cool 355. Mr. Trodenki breezed past that number, and > headed for the bird-for-each-day-of-the-year-total, but missed by a > fraction, coming to a screaming halt at 363 (or is it 362 Tim??). I'm > impressed, and here's to Tim, congradulations! I know you are much too > modest to let everyone know of your dirty little secrets. One last > word: can you guess, believe, what was his biggest, ouchest, most > aweful, still hurting from it, miss??????? Oh, what beautiful BLUE FEET > that baby had! We missed you so much when we were all there...... > > So, here's to rubbing Tim a bit (dragging him thru the mud too), and to > White-throated Sparrows.... > > PS - since we are doing a year in review, my other favorite story for > 2002 was the report of the esteemed Alan Contreras finding exactly ONE > BUSHTIT on his Coos Bay CBC totals. One Bushtit is, by statistics, > downright and udderly impossible. Is it really possible that Alan's > birding skills are waning and his reputation is suffering???????? What > will 2003 bring? Stay tuned..... > > > Cheers > Dave Lauten and Kathy Castelein > Bandon OR > birdsong@harborside.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Great Gray Owl/Lane County > From: Bruce Newhouse > Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 19:00:50 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 11 > > Today I received an invite to go and see the GREAT GRAY OWL on private > property in the Fall Creek area which I posted about earlier today. > Indeed, it certainly is one -- perching and hunting along the edge of a > meadow, and affording excellent views through a scope. Stunning sight. > > With apologies to Dave I., I'll do a running total for the month for GG > owls in Oregon. Score so far: > > Lane County (1) > Coos County (0) > Other counties (0) > > Bruce Newhouse in Eugene :) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RBA: Lane Co. Coast BALTIMORE Oriole > From: Diane Pettey > Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 19:47:41 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 12 > > During the Florence Christmas Bird Count today, a BALTIMORE ORIOLE was > confirmed by Alan Contreras, Noah Strycker (photos obtained), et.al. > > This bird (along with another oriole described as "paler") was first > seen in October by backyard birdwatchers and not reported because of > lack of knowledge that it was rare. > Resident at 391 Kingwood Street said the bird/s are visiting a feeder in > her backyard BIRDERS ARE WELCOME!! Birds have also been seen at a suet > feeder at 435 Laurel St. > > LOCATION: > In Florence - after the Hwy 101/126 intersection, go south on Hwy 101 > and turn right on Kingwood Street at the Florence Dairy Queen (just > before crossing the Siuslaw River Bridge). Turn a sharp right again and > go north on Kingwood for barely 2 blocks. 391 Kingwood Street. > > Wahoo!! > regards, > Diane Pettey > Florence, OR > surfbird@harborside.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: A IE 6.0 patch > From: carolk > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:33:20 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 13 > > --G1Yh7J742g6fcA81z20B1du2 > Content-Type: text/html; > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Hello,This is a IE 6.0 patch
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He didn't find it, but > he did find a LESSER GOLDFINCH in the neighbor's yard. Great find, and a > nice Count Week addition for the Yaquina Bay CBC. > > Rebecca Cheek > South Beach, OR 97366 > nelsoncheek@newportnet.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Baltimore Oriole > From: Alan Contreras > Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 20:39:32 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 15 > > Diane posted good info about this oriole. We found it late this morning > after being tipped off as to the neighborhood it is in. It seems to move > around a bit but uses these yards a lot. The Kingwood site has a huge hedge > of some kind of monster rhodies or something, where the oriole crept about > with some robins and Varied thrushes. Then it would hop out into the open - > no sight more startling than an adult male Baltimore suddenly appearing in > bright sun on a CBC. Noah should have some good photos which will make > their way onto Greg's rare bird page and into OB. > > The Laurel site is a rather exposed suet feeder right near the street that > the bird comes to regularly. > > The bird has apparently been there since October. We did not see the > "paler" oriole said to be around, but of course this could well be another > species. > > This is a second Lane County record and the second winter record for Oregon, > I think. There was one in subtropical Brookings about 10 years back.. > > -- > Alan Contreras > Eugene, Oregon > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: White Throated Sparrow, Cedar Mill Wetland, Wa Co > From: "david smith" > Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 04:58:30 +0000 > X-Message-Number: 16 > > In the Wetland Conservancy property on Barnes Rd, east of Salzman I found a > WTSP 100 yards east of the gate at the NE entrance. It was along the fence > line bordering Tuefels. It was feeding near the north waterline of the first > pond. It was 5:00 pm. Tan/grey stripe(dusk) but throat(with vertical > stripes), rufous wings, breast and back streaking, were visible. > David Smith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Airlie-Albany CBC section highlights > From: Jeff Fleischer > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:17:59 -0800 (PST) > X-Message-Number: 17 > > Obolers, > > Today, Paul Sullivan and I birded the Simpson Park and > Dever Conner area for the count. Despite foggy > conditions, we came up with 49 species in Simpson Park > and a total of 73 species in the whole area. The good > birds of the day were - > > SHORT-EARED OWL - We saw 4 at 3PM on Conser Rd just > west of the railroad tracks. They put on a great > show, flying around the grass field and vocalizing > > HUTTON'S VIREO - one in Simpson Park > > GREAT EGRET - We saw one in Simpson Park and a flock > of 21 feeding in a flooded field on the other side of > the street where the SE Owls were. > > EURASIAN WIGEON - One drake in Simpson Park > > HERRING GULL - One in Simpson Park > > WESTERN BLUEBIRD - Two at the north end of a spur road > off of Conser Rd > > WHITE-THROATED SPARROW - one at a feeder on Hoefer Rd > (where the Harris and Clay-colored Sparrows were last > winter) > > SPOTTED SANDPIPER - one at Bowman Park near Simpson > Park > > BROWN-HEADED COWBIRD - 10 birds at the same location > as the Bluebirds > > All in all a great day of birding and once again, > thanks Paul for making another CBC a memorable event > for me :) > > Jeff Fleischer > Albany, OR > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Pretty seagull > From: "Phil Pickering" > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:54:38 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 18 > > Sorry, it was late and I was out of it when I posted that... > > The last sentence I wrote is true, but irrelevant - the bird is clearly > a 2nd-winter based on pale bill base, paling eye, more irregular > marbled, rather than checkered appearance to the covert > and tertial markings, and (for Thayer's) lack of solidly dark- > centered juvenile scaps which virtually all retain into their > second calendar year. > > The amount of gray in the mantle of 2nd-winter Thayer's is highly > variable, or at least it appears to be - it may be that there are > sub-stages of back/scapular molt that are variable in timing > that aren't well-understood. In any case, some 2nd-winter show > mostly adult-gray back and scaps, while others show only > scattered small patches - if much at all. A similar 2nd-winter taken > at D River in March is at - > > http://www.harborside.com/~philliplc/gull016.jpg > > Note that there is also a lot of varability in the timing of when > the bill pales, which seems to be the case with most large gulls. > > And if anyone ever sees a gull in Oregon that looks exactly like #3 > in Michael's quiz - call me!!!! ^ _ ^ > > Phil > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "KACastelein and DJLauten" > To: "Obol" > Cc: "Obol" > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:40 PM > Subject: Re: Pretty seagull > > > > I tend to agree with Phil that this is a Thayer's Gull, but Phil, I am > > confused about your last sentences > > > > Phil Pickering wrote: > > > > > > And, as Alan indicated, the vast majority (virtually all?) 1st-winter > R-b > > > should have molted the majority of their juv. scaps/coverts/tertials > > > by January - and show a much more adult-like appearance than > > > this bird, with a near-complete adult gray mantle and black tertials. > > > The opposite is true for "1st-winter" Thayer's, which typically retain > > > most of their juvenile plumage into spring. > > > > > > > > > You indicated the bird was a second winter bird in your first paragraph, > > so then why are we talking about a 1st winter Thayer's retaining juvenal > > plumage (not juvenile plumage, sorry to be picky)? Furthermore, a > > second winter Thayer's should have almost a complete gray back, as most > > if not all the mantle and scaps should have molted into adult colors, > > something this bird has no sign of. > > > > Is this a first winter bird, or a second winter bird? > > > > Dave Lauten > > Bandon OR > > birdsong@harborside.com > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Phil > > > philliplc@harborside.com > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Alan Contreras" > > > To: "Obol" > > > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:52 PM > > > Subject: Pretty seagull > > > > > > > > > > > >>I am not a gull expert but after eliminating a few things I suspect that > > >>this is a darkish first-year Ring-bill that has not had the decency to > > >> > > > molt > > > > > >>in a timely fashion. > > >> > > >>My first reaction was Thayer's but the tertials look too pale and > splotchy > > >>and the whole pattern is too uneven. Also a first-winter Thayer's > ought > > >> > > > to > > > > > >>have an all-dark bill, maybe a bit longer than this bird. > > >> > > >>It seems to be getting the dark covert centers that a winter Ring-bill > > >> > > > would > > > > > >>have, and the center of the back may well be coming in as pale gray, a > > >>couple of months late. > > >> > > >> -- > > >>Alan Contreras > > >>Eugene, Oregon > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Oriole in Portland? > From: "Steven J/. Jaggers" > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:23:43 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 19 > > Hello All, > > Alan's post about a Baltimore Oriole reminds me that two customers have > mentioned seeing a Baltimore Oriole in the past week or so. The BackYard > Bird Shop (where I work) is at 3574 SE Hawthorne, one report, Dec. 30th, > was from 27th and Belmont...bird seen eating at old fruit (Apple?) tree. > Second report, Jan. 5th., from a home in the vicinity...just south of > Hawthorne I believe. > Anyone in the vicinity seeing an Oriole? > > Steve Jaggers > sjag2@juno.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Fw: Lane Co. Coast BALTIMORE Oriole > From: "Judy Meredith" > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:43:02 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 20 > > Additional info about looking for the bird although we did not see it. > The woman at 391 Kingwood says that the birds come each > morning at about 8:15 . She welcomes birders. Flash your binos > and just walk back, she said that was OK with her. > > Walk behind the house and look into the narrow space between the > house and the tall hedge. She sees the birds around there at her > 2 suet feeders. > > Judy Meredith > jmeredit@bendnet.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diane Pettey" > > > > During the Florence Christmas Bird Count today, a BALTIMORE ORIOLE was > > confirmed by Alan Contreras, Noah Strycker (photos obtained), et.al. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Audubon Birding Weekend -- Jan 10-11 > From: "Paul T. Sullivan" > Date: 5 Jan 2003 22:26:38 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 21 > > OBOL: > > The first trip of the new series: Audubon Birding Weekends will be going to > Curry county this coming weekend, Jan. 11-12, 2003. We aim to escape the > colder weather and enjoy Oregon's palm-tree coast. We'll bird from > Brookings to Langlois, looking for seabirds, waterfowl, and specialties like > Red-shouldered Hawk and Black Phoebe. > > Registration is $25 per person. > > If you are interested, contact me: > > Paul T. Sullivan, 4470 SW Murray Blvd. #26, Beaverton, OR 97005 > ptsulliv@spiritone.com > Audubon Birding Weekends > (503) 646-7889 > http://www.audubonportland.org/birds/weekends.html > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: California Condors > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Diane_Bag=FC=E9s?= > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:40:09 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 22 > > Hi, > > I anticipate being in northern Arizona, and southern and coastal California, > in the next week or two. Can anybody tell me my odds of seeing a California > Condor, and where? Are there any good birding spots from Sedona north to > the Arizona border? > How about the San Diego area? (I've got books for northern California, but > had never planned on getting to the south part of the state.) > > Thank you. > Diane Bagues > Milwaukie, Oregon > dbagues@earthlink.net > > > > > > --- > > END OF DIGEST > From sjag2 at juno.com Mon Jan 6 18:38:23 2003 From: sjag2 at juno.com (Steven J/. Jaggers) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Correction, Oriole in Portland probably Bullock's Message-ID: <20030106.184607.-954513.0.sjag2@juno.com> Hello OBOL, My error in posting about the Oriole I had heard about I mistakenly suggested it was a Baltimore, no reason to suspect that from the two reports I had heard. I do have more info. on the location of the second sighting, the bird was seen near 49th and Salmon. Steve Jaggers sjag2@juno.com From acontrer at mindspring.com Mon Jan 6 18:49:14 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Eugene meeting Message-ID: 8 in room 20, South Eugene High School on 19th street in Eugene. Use the western front door and go down the hall to the left. Photos of Baltimore Oriole etc. will be shown. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From shroyers at worldnet.att.net Mon Jan 6 19:23:05 2003 From: shroyers at worldnet.att.net (Shroyer, Loris Joline) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Sharples' Reprint of West Nile Virus Alert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've been concerned since the West Nile virus first hit the news in September. Even allowing for some journalistic hype in the informative ProMED alert forwarded by Karen Sharples on the Dec. 4 OBOL Digest, its information is riveting. Although the seemingly successful condor experiment offers a glimmer of hope of innoculation protection for some of us domestic creatures, the situation for wildlife appears dire (and I'm trying to avoid thinking of the possible ramifications of loss of birds, other animals, and the "balance of nature" for our entire U.S. economy and life style). The alert indicates there is new evidence that afflicted birds and their droppings may be able to transmit the virus directly, without the intermediary of a vector mosquito. Therefore, although right now the idea may seem presumptive, the forecast indicates to me that this spring, we who feed birds should be proactive in anticipating the arrival of the virus to the West Coast by weaning our avian visitors from the feeders that encourage them to congregate (and defecate) in immediate proximity, leading to their probable exposure and contagion. For birds, such primary avoidance could be a significant survival factor. For people, two secondary benefits of ceasing to feed would be protection from contracting the virus and insulation from the grief of seeing stricken birds at their feeder locations. It seems to me (in the effort to be objective and constructive as an antidote to feeling helpless), that bird champions such as OBOL, Audubon, OFO, etc. might brainstorm ways people can aid infected birds as well as inhibit transmission of the disease--including how best to notify the bird-feeding public of feeder danger early on, prior to the initial West Coast onslaught of the virus, which might help slow its progress at a crucial stage. What do you think? Your thoughts on this are important, and OBOL Digest should be a good vehicle for discussing what we can do to protect birds and to deter the spread of this phenomenon certain to alter our lives. Joline Shroyer, near Canby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030106/06e04be8/attachment.htm From whoffman at pioneer.net Mon Jan 6 19:28:13 2003 From: whoffman at pioneer.net (whoffman@pioneer.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Eurasian Gr.-w. Teal: separate species or not? References: Message-ID: <3E1A494D.CB5@pioneer.net> Several published articles indicate Common Teal should be separate from Green-winged. In addition to the Eruopean literature, Zink et al. (1995, Condor 97: 639-549) found major mitochondrial DNA differences among American and Siberian teal specimens but these did not divide evenly at the Bering Sea. Perhaps two species are involved, but their ranges appeared to overlap in Siberia, as the Siberian collection showed both DNA types. This is an interesting paper and has relevance to several Oregon species. Basically, they compared DNA of specimens from Siberia for a bunch of species to North American representatives. They suggest that Black-billed Magpies are more than one species, also Three-toed Woodpeckers, among others. The ABA used to have a policy of following the AOU Checklist Committee on taxonomy. I do not know if that policy is still in effect. Alan Contreras wrote: > > Eurasian is NOT separated by AOU at this time. However, taxonomist Ralph > Browning now treats it as a separate species based on material published in > Europe, and the new Birds of Oregon book separates it that way. We also > separate the Brant again. > > I do not know what ABA will do with this species. > > Alan L. Contreras From nelsoncheek at newportnet.com Mon Jan 6 18:28:39 2003 From: nelsoncheek at newportnet.com (nelsoncheek) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Newport WESTERN TANAGER Message-ID: Today Chuck Philo found a winter-plumage male WESTERN TANAGER in the same neighborhood where yesterday he found a Lesser Goldfinch. Today there were 2 Lesser Goldfinches, so they seem to be staying in the area. This is a residential neighborhood on the north side of San-Bay-O Circle, just east of Hwy. 101 in north Newport. Another surprising Count Week bird. What next, Chuck? Rebecca Cheek South Beach, OR 97366 nelsoncheek@newportnet.com From jgeier at attglobal.net Mon Jan 6 20:41:16 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Trumpeter Swans & Say's Phoebe, SE Polk Co. Message-ID: <3E1A5A6C.E3C7822F@attglobal.net> Hello birders, As I had an excuse to pass by the Helmick St. Park area south of Monmouth (Polk Co.) at around 3:30 this afternoon, I took the detour along Simpson Rd. to check the swan flock. Just as I was setting up my scope, Walt Yungen pulled up from the opposite direction. With a prolonged effort (these swans are far from the road so ID is tough even with a scope, especially as they had their heads under water most of the time), we were able to pick out several good TRUMPETER SWANS along with the more numerous TUNDRA SWANS. After Walt left, the whole waterfowl flock (some 900-1000 PINTAILS and assorted other ducks and geese) were disturbed by some character who came walking right up to the edge of the pond from the back side. I'm not sure if he was a hunter or just there to lok at the ducks & geese, but he sure did spook off a lot of them off. As the swans swam out to open water, I thought I could make out about 8 Trumpeters plus 16 Tundras. Finally the swans flew off too, headed west. I drove a bit farther west along the road, looking for a place to turn around, and saw a SAY'S PHOEBE perched on a wire by the barn at the first place. It was harrassed by a KESTREL as I watched, so might not be sticking around that spot long. Seems to me someone found one on the Airlie CBC on Sunday; perhaps this was the same bird. Walt mentioned he'd seen a WHITE-TAILED KITE further along the same road. Oh, on the drive north earlier in the morning, I saw one STELLER's QUAIL land in a field near Oak hill Rd. OK, it was a jay, but it was funny to see one flying down to land in a wide-open field, wings spread out almost like a quail when seen from behind. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier2attglobal.net From celata at pacifier.com Mon Jan 6 21:04:43 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Pica hudsonia References: Message-ID: <3E1A5FEB.A09362D3@pacifier.com> I believe magpies have already been officially split into American and Eurasian. This in the same batch of splits that returned Wilson's Snipe to us... whoffman@pioneer.net wrote: > > Black-billed Magpies are more than one species, also > Three-toed Woodpeckers, among others. > > The ABA used to have a policy of following the AOU Checklist Committee > on taxonomy. I do not know if that policy is still in effect. > -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From 5hats at peak.org Mon Jan 6 21:16:15 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Pica hudsonia References: Message-ID: <007a01c2b60c$163610e0$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> Obol, I don't know about magpies, teal, vireos, flycatchers, or snipe, but I'm pretty sure that homo sapiens professionalornothisticus is a different species from homo sapiens birderforfunicus. Of course, then you have the added problem with the first species. Is it hpp splitacea or hpp lumpectomicus? Darrel ---- From: "Mike Patterson" To: "Obol" Cc: "Obol" Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Pica hudsonia > I believe magpies have already been officially split > into American and Eurasian. This in the same batch > of splits that returned Wilson's Snipe to us... > > > whoffman@pioneer.net wrote: > > > > Black-billed Magpies are more than one species, also > > Three-toed Woodpeckers, among others. > > > > The ABA used to have a policy of following the AOU Checklist Committee > > on taxonomy. I do not know if that policy is still in effect. > > > > -- > Mike Patterson > Astoria, OR > celata@pacifier.com > > A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him > hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness > that amazes those with ears who hear not. > > -Neltje Blanchan > > http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html > From greg at thebirdguide.com Mon Jan 6 21:41:38 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (Greg Gillson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Winter pelagic trips Message-ID: <001c01c2b60f$7678fb40$a1b0efd8@guide> For those wanting to try to add Laysan Albatross to their list, we have 2 winter Perpetua Bank pelagic trips scheduled--January 25 and March 1. February 5, 2000 highlights: 7 Laysan Albatross, 11 Black-footed Albatross, 1 Short-tailed Shearwater, 1 Fork-tailed Storm-Petrel, 1 Ancient Murrelet March 23, 2002 highlights: 22 Black-footed Albatross, 1 Flesh-footed Shearwater, 1 Glaucous Gull, 225 Black-legged Kittiwake, 48 Cassin's Auklet, 6 Ancient Murrelet, 120 Rhinoceros Auklet March 24, 2001 highlights: 1 Laysan Albatross, 1 Short-tailed Albatross, 101 Black-footed Albatross, 3 Short-tailed Shearwater, 1 Leach's Storm-Petrel, 1237 Common Murre, 6 Ancient Murrelet, 132 Rhinoceros Auklet What are the odds of getting out? According to Stonewall Bank weather buoy data from 1991-2002, 35% in late January and 58% in early March. When planning trips at this time of year, always have a land-based backup plan--just in case. For more details: http://thebirdguide.com/pelagics/ Greg Gillson Cornelius, Oregon greg@thebirdguide.com http://thebirdguide.com From woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 6 21:48:25 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com (J. Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Eur. Gr.-w. Teal status; links to AOU & ABA checklists Message-ID: <20030107054825.33185.qmail@web13606.mail.yahoo.com> Since Eurasian Green-winged Teal (or Common Teal) is not on the current version of the ABA checklist (nor the AOU checklist from which the ABA checklist is usually derived), for 2002 OFO listing it is thus not countable. Maybe that will change this year... ABA checklist is at: http://www.americanbirding.org/checklist/chklst1.htm AOU checklist is at: http://www.aou.org/aou/birdlist.html Jamie Corvallis woodpecker97330@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From mgshepard at pacificcoast.net Mon Jan 6 22:26:32 2003 From: mgshepard at pacificcoast.net (Michael G. Shepard) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Gull Quiz - "Answer" #1 and Summary of "Thoughts du Jour" on the January 3 Clover Point (Victoria BC) Gull Message-ID: Well, there was much more discussion that I expected on the photo posted on January 3. The photo has now been included in the Gull Quiz posted at http://216.21.159.146/birds/seagull.html Here is a summary of what folk have said about Bird #1. Birders from central BC to southern OR sent comments. People had difficulty determining size as there wasn't much to go on. Mike Tabak suggested that nearby goose turds might help give some perspective .... The extra tips I can add are: a) The bird is noticeably smaller and daintier than a Glaucous-winged Gull, but not tiny b) In flight the bird was very evenly patterned with a broad brownish terminal band on the tail. The color of the band was very similar to the overall mantle color. At first I thought it was a first winter bird, but there was quite a bit of "smooth" gray replacing the scalloping effect, so I figure it is a second-winter individual. One of the most often suggested possibility was Ring-billed Gull. I had eliminated that species for the following reasons. a) Ring-bill should be quite white on the underparts, with much more contrast top to bottom b) Ring-bill should show a conspicous black terminal tail band c) Since I had the advantage of seeing the bird adjacent to other species, I could see that the bird in question was much larger than a Ring-billed Gull. Mew Gull was suggested. The shape of a Mew is quite similar, but the bill would be a bit smaller in proportion. Again, size matters - this bird was too big. Hybrid Glaucous-winged x Herring was another possiblity. However, I think the Clover Point bird was too dainty and evenly colored. There was quite a bit of discussion on BCVANBIRDS Yahoo Group about the possiblity of it being some variant of Herring Gull. I eliminated that species due to the shape. I expect Herrings to be fairly robust and slightly flat-headed in appearance. Well, in my non-expert opinion, it's a second winter THAYER'S GULL. Many respondents suggested Thayer's but most were a bit hesitant. Well, what do you expect with such a variable group. As Calvin Gehlen stated "I don't think I have ever seen two second-winter Thayer's that look the same". Phil Pickering added "It is a Thayer's, but it's a 2nd-winter. Some 2nd-winter Thayer's only have scattered splotches of gray on the scaps and back like this bird, while retaining markings that look sort of like juvenile but are generally more uneven and finer (2nd-winter Thayer's can be very beautifully patterned)." Thanks all for your comments - it was a fun excercise. If you have more comments on this bird or the gull quiz, please let me know. More "answers" coming soon!!! Michael G. Shepard North American Bird Information Web Site: http://www.islandnet.com/~mgs/birds/ From surfbird at harborside.com Mon Jan 6 22:38:08 2003 From: surfbird at harborside.com (Diane Pettey) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Florence CBC Results, 1/5/03 Message-ID: <3E1A75CF.85669779@harborside.com> The Florence Christmas Bird Count had twenty-five participants and five feeder watches producing 130 species, including another White-throated Sparrow to add to the five already reported for the Florence area. I haven't heard from two feeder watchers - there may be MORE! Highlights: THE Baltimore Oriole (a stunning male) Gyrfalcon (s. jetty deflation plain, hauling south!) Palm Warblers (2,foredune, south deflation plain) Great Horned Owl (flyover Hwy 126, east of Florence) Western Screech Owl (Herman Peak Rd.north of Florence - lifer for Daniel Farrar!) Northern Pygmy-owl (N. Fork Siuslaw Road-nearly to the end) Mountain Quail (Condon Cr. Rd. area) California Quail ( rarely seen around here - road north of Cape Cr. Rd) Long-tailed Ducks (in Siuslaw River channel and off the end of jetties) Northern Fulmar Short-tailed Shearwaters (3, northwest of north jetty) Eurasian Wigeon (two, flooded pasture, N. Fork Siuslaw Rd.) Turkey Vulture (at least one) Red-shouldered Hawk Barn Swallows (numerous, flying north) W. Scrub Jay Conspicuously missing on count day: Great Egret, Snowy Plover, Common Goldeneye, Greater White-fronted Goose, Bald Eagle, American Coot. The egret, plover, eagle and coot were found on count week. Thanks again to all the participants, in particular to the folks who came from farther away - members of the Bend Bird Club, Norm Barrett (Medford) and Craig Roberts (Tillamook)! Craig ended up solo birding an area that a late phone call left uncovered. And as always, the folks from Eugene really MAKE this count a success. My gratitude to Alan Contreras for his invaluable assistance in coordinating this count. Mark your calendars for the 20th Florence CBC, January 4, 2004. regards, Diane Pettey, compiler Florence, OR surfbird@harborside.com From dfxjcp at humboldt1.com Tue Jan 7 09:16:59 2003 From: dfxjcp at humboldt1.com (David Fix and Jude Claire Power) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: swans and merlins Message-ID: <200301071716.h07HGwjw004059@home.humboldt1.com> A couple of thoughts to offer. Raptors are well-reported on OBOL, with notes on subspecies of Peregrine Falcons (even winter tundra peregrines, which according to conventional wisdom ought to be in the tropics or even southward now!) and morphs of other species. With all this attention, I've noticed that 'black' Merlins are not mentioned. Do people see such birds? Or are they no longer showing up? They are striking and remarkable falcons, unlikely to escape notice if well-seen. Although there is comment on any number of difficult identifications posted regularly--subspecies groups of Fox Sparrows, Canada Geese, you name it--among the species sets that seems to generate essentially no question or controversy are Tundra and Trumpeter Swans. I'm aware that Trumpeters have been wintering in small numbers at select locations in the Willamette Valley for a couple of decades. However, when they're reported, there is almost no comment or puzzling or uncertainty about them related in the posts. Because swans are usually seen at some distance, frequently in poor light (rain, thermal distortion, etc.), they spend much time with their heads down (grazing or rooting), and these species are so similar, it would seem likely that people might have a bit of trouble identifying them. Judging from OBOL posts this is not the case. In California, reports of Trumpeter Swans are looked at long and hard, and this species has had a comparatively low level of acceptance in the California Bird Records Committee. What ID criteria are used to distinguish them? There is no single character that separates Trumpeter from Tundra; it's a matter of observing several points clearly. Lest those who see Trumpeters regularly and 'know' them bristle in defense, let me say I don't doubt that most reports are in fact correct! My point is that it does seem odd that it appears not to be an ID problem worthy of even passing discussion or question. David David Fix & Jude Claire Power 40'51"N 124'04"W Nation of Humboldt Klamath Konundrum, Gaia, Yellow Dwarf/G System Milky Way, Local Cluster,Wherewithal & Why ? From celata at pacifier.com Tue Jan 7 12:03:10 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: swans and merlins References: Message-ID: <3E1B327F.ED28F7B0@pacifier.com> Most of the Merlins we see on the North Coast are "black" Merlins (_suckleyi_). I guess I don't report them as such because they're pretty common.... I saw a _richardsonii_ recently on Clatsop Beach (I always try to turn these into Eurasian Kestrels, without success) and _columbarius_ is regular in the winter particularly at Brownsmead. David Fix and Jude Claire Power wrote: > > A couple of thoughts to offer. > > Raptors are well-reported on OBOL, with notes on subspecies of Peregrine > Falcons (even winter tundra peregrines, which according to conventional > wisdom ought to be in the tropics or even southward now!) and morphs of > other species. With all this attention, I've noticed that 'black' Merlins > are not mentioned. Do people see such birds? Or are they no longer showing > up? They are striking and remarkable falcons, unlikely to escape notice if > well-seen. > -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From greg.gillson at exgate.tek.com Tue Jan 7 12:55:22 2003 From: greg.gillson at exgate.tek.com (greg.gillson@exgate.tek.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: swan ID Message-ID: <7EDB294F3EE1744BA2AB357D5C39579802A9AA91@us-bv-m05> In the 1980's I saw a pair of trumpeter swans at very close range and was able to read their neck collars with binoculars. Imagine my surprise when the information came back that they were, in fact, Tundra Swans, not Trumpeters! Since that time, Trumpeter Swans have become more common in the NW Oregon. And I have gained much valuable experience with them. Nevertheless, I still think that swan identification is not easy. I believe that some reports may be in error, or "me too" reports (the bird is correctly identified initially, but many people go out where it was reported and see a suspicious Tundra Swan and think they are seeing the Trumpeter). It is not as easy to separate swans as the simplified field guides may make it appear. On the other hand, we do have much superior optics to what we had only 10 years ago. This allows careful observers a better chance to see the identifying characteristics of distant swans. And they do tend to sit still and stay in an area once they are found. And, there are birders out there all over now, guiding others to the good birds. In the 1970's I often went MONTHS in the field without encountering another birder (I actually first met David Fix (then living in Beaverton) birding on the Furnace Creek Ranch Golf Course in Death Valley!) Early last year I made a list of species that I think may be frequently misidentified in Oregon. They include both well-known ID challenges, like Arctic vs. Common Tern or Western and Semipalmated Sandpipers. But it also includes things like Western Wood Pewees identified as Empids, House Finches confused with Cassin's Finches, and female Red-breasted Mergansers inland. Swan ID certainly fits in this category. For another example, see "Ten most misidentified birds in Monterey County, by Don Roberson at: http://montereybay.com/creagrus/mtymissid.html Greg Gillson greg@thebirdguide.com From 3sisters at outlawnet.com Tue Jan 7 13:07:10 2003 From: 3sisters at outlawnet.com (Stephen Shunk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:37 2004 Subject: Winter pelagic+ trips In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Birders, Attached to the pelagic trip offered January 25, I am offering a few days of land birding for our first "Surf & Turf" tour of 2003: January 23-26. These are small group, all-inclusive, multi-day trips that take in the best of the coast and ocean. This is one of the best times of year to bird the Oregon coast. Enjoy it all without having to drive home tired at the end of the day! Please contact me directly if you are interested. Thanks, Steve Shunk -- Stephen Shunk Paradise Birding Sisters, OR 541-549-8826 (home) 541-408-1753 (cell) 541-549-8937 (fax) www.paradisebirding.com GET INVOLVED WITH THE OREGON CASCADES BIRDING TRAIL! http://www.oregonbirdingtrails.org/ "Exploring Nature in Your Backyard ... and Beyond" > From: "Greg Gillson" > Reply-To: "Greg Gillson" > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:41:38 -0800 > To: "Obol" > Subject: Winter pelagic trips > > For those wanting to try to add Laysan Albatross to their list, we have 2 > winter Perpetua Bank pelagic trips scheduled--January 25 and March 1. > > February 5, 2000 highlights: 7 Laysan Albatross, 11 Black-footed Albatross, > 1 Short-tailed Shearwater, 1 Fork-tailed Storm-Petrel, 1 Ancient Murrelet > > March 23, 2002 highlights: 22 Black-footed Albatross, 1 Flesh-footed > Shearwater, 1 Glaucous Gull, 225 Black-legged Kittiwake, 48 Cassin's Auklet, > 6 Ancient Murrelet, 120 Rhinoceros Auklet > > March 24, 2001 highlights: 1 Laysan Albatross, 1 Short-tailed Albatross, 101 > Black-footed Albatross, 3 Short-tailed Shearwater, 1 Leach's Storm-Petrel, > 1237 Common Murre, 6 Ancient Murrelet, 132 Rhinoceros Auklet > > What are the odds of getting out? According to Stonewall Bank weather buoy > data from 1991-2002, 35% in late January and 58% in early March. When > planning trips at this time of year, always have a land-based backup > plan--just in case. > > For more details: http://thebirdguide.com/pelagics/ > > Greg Gillson > Cornelius, Oregon > greg@thebirdguide.com > http://thebirdguide.com > > > From iaintom at yahoo.com Tue Jan 7 13:35:13 2003 From: iaintom at yahoo.com (Iain Tomlinson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: RBA: Mult. McCowns/Chestnut-Collared Longspur Message-ID: <20030107213513.37605.qmail@web9801.mail.yahoo.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030107/6e6b81e2/attachment.htm From Irons5 at aol.com Tue Jan 7 15:11:47 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: OBOL: Eugene birds Message-ID: <5DBDC389.55033476.0004D4D4@aol.com> This morning I spent about 1.5 hours searching unsuccessfully for the Blue Jay on Carthage Ave off River Rd. in N. Eugene. I ran into Dennis Arendt who also could not find the Blue Jay. However, I did find a "new" White-thraoted Sparrow in the back of Awbrey Park at the corner of River Rd. and Spring Creek Dr. Also in the park (very birdy) were 2 Red-breasted Nuthatchs, 3-4 Townsend's Warblers, 2 Yellow-rummped Warblers, 25 Golden-crowned Kinglets, 12 Ruby-crowned Kinglets, 20+ Dark-eyed Juncos, 3 Winter Wrens and a Hutton's Vireo. In the Pioneer Cemetary on the U of O campus I found the following this afternoon: Merlin 1 Townsend's Warbler 10 Hutton's Vireo 2 Chesnut-backed Chickadee 20 Golden-crowned Kinglet 30 Ruby-crowned Kinglet 20 Red-breasted Nuthatch 3 Dark-eyed Junco 40 Pine Siskin 2 For those keeping track the White-throated Sparrow is now well over 200 with several new reports I've received today. I will try to put out an update tomorrow after I get home and add in the new reports. An assignment for Polk County birders: Go thoroughly check Luckiamute Landing for White-throated Sparrows. Joel Geier found one there on the Albany-Airlie CBC which is the only report there so far this winter. Last winter there were several and a couple Swamp Sparrows at this site. No one seems to be birding there this winter. Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From surfbird at harborside.com Tue Jan 7 16:40:09 2003 From: surfbird at harborside.com (Diane Pettey) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Lane/Lincoln Co. Coast Sightings 1/7/03 Message-ID: <3E1B7369.AAEF214F@harborside.com> Greetings from sunny California (or so it seems), Coastal Oregon is THE place to be when it's foggy in the valley. That said, Sylvia Maulding and I observed the Florence Baltimore Oriole and then headed north to Yachats. Highlights: Lane County: Osprey (heading north past Sea Lion Caves, just inside Florence CBC circle) Ruddy Turnstone (Toketee Klootchman pull-out south of Ocean Haven B&B) Harlequin Ducks (same location) Red Crossbill (beautiful strawberry-colored, Carl Washburne St. Park) Gray Jays (same location - camp hosts say they're daily visitors) American Dipper (singing! Cape Creek, about 1 mile up Cape Cr. Rd.) Lincoln County: Northern Pygmy Owl (perched on tree tip, ocean side of Hwy 101, between Cape Perpetua and Yachats, exceptional views) 65 degrees - what a wonderful day. regards, Diane Pettey Florence, OR surfbird@harborside.com From jgeier at attglobal.net Tue Jan 7 17:30:54 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Swan ID Message-ID: <3E1B7F4E.F64DBBF3@attglobal.net> > Among the species sets that seems to generate essentially no question or > controversy are Tundra and Trumpeter Swans. I'm aware that Trumpeters have > been wintering in small numbers at select locations in the Willamette Valley > for a couple of decades. However, when they're reported, there is almost no > comment or puzzling or uncertainty about them related in the posts. Hello birders, To answer David Fix's questions in part, one reason I don't relate details of swan ID is that I have had the luxury of having both Trumpeter Swans (up to 50+) and Tundra Swans (up to 200) as next-to-regular yard birds for the past 5 years or so, usually for weeks at a time, this year excepted. I've also seen Trumpeter families on their breeding grounds around Yellowstone, where you would not expect to see Tundras in the late breeding season. The difficulty of swan ID, especially at long range, is not to be underestimated, and as Fix notes you need to look at multiple attributes of the birds to make sure everything adds up. The most useful reference I have seen is the Trumpeter Swan Society's swan ID sheet. Sibley is not very useful and frankly some of his swan portrayals look a bit grotesque to me. The ID points I customarily go through to establish a Trumpeter Swan ID are: 1) "Canvasback" bill profile. 2) Border of black skin under lower bill makes a nearly straight line from chin to eye, with the white (feathered) portion making an acute angle where it leaves the chin. In comparison, Tundra shows an angle closer to 90 degreess, then a curve back toward the eye. 3) Eye forms the "point" of the black triangle on the bill for Trumpeter, vs. sticking out beyond the convergence point on Tundra (This can be hard to see at long range). 4) Any visible yellow on lores rules out Trumpeter (though I would not take absence as a positive sign of Trumpeter -- I have seen many Tundras with practically no yellow on lores). 5) Red lips: Trumpeters have 'em, Tundras don't. Difficult to see at long range, but very distinctive when you see it. 6) Voice: The Trumpeter's voice is very distinctive once you've heard it, bold, clear and resonant -- more like a trombone than a trumpet if you ask me. Tundras do a wavering "woo-hoo" thing which is higher pitched and much weaker. If you have any doubts, you probably heard a Tundra. 7) Neck shape: Trumpeters have a long neck, and when relaxed tend to lay the lowermost section of their neck back on their backs, with the rest of the neck then kinking upward. Large Tundra Swans will also do this (I suspect it is as much a function of the bird's size as much as species), but it is a good first clue to watch for when scanning flocks. Most Tundras hold their necks straight up, like pipes, in a goose-like posture. 8) Body angle: When standing on dry ground, Trumpeters characteristically hold their bodies at an upward-tilted angle. The plane through the center of a Tundra's body is usually held close to level. 9) Feeding habits on land: Tundras are more grazing birds, Trumpeters like to root down in the mud. This is a supporting characteristic, but again is good for making a quick assessment of distant flocks before more more careful study. The difference in feeding habits tends to cause some segregation within mixed flocks. 10) Trumpeters are much bigger birds on average, but due to gender and age variation there is some overlap with large Tundras. 11) Relative neck length and carriage. There are other "jizz" type things too but these are the main ones. Swan ID at a distance is not easy, but it does help to try to do a flock count every time you see them, as I customarily do. Taking the Simpson Rd. birds yesterday as an example, on one bird (one of the largest, probably a male) I could pick out Trumpeter traits (1), (2), (4), (5), and (7) with certainty, and was pretty sure I could see (3) even at that distance. Size and shape comparison with nearby swans helped me to pick out three more that shared most of these traits -- (5) is not always visible at a distance. Four more swans that I described as probable Trumpeters showed these traits in varying degrees. This is largely a matter of having only a limited time to look over each bird in detail while simultaneously keeping track of others in a moving flock (even birds feeding on land are usually walking around). When the whole flock flew out I could see about 8 with longer-looking necks (11) and Trumpeter-like carriage in flight (here we really get into "jizz"), which basically confirmed my assessment from watching these birds on the water. However, with any mixed-flock count I normally give a range of numbers for each species, as I did yesterday. There are always a few swans that spend most of their time behind other swans, with their heads under water every time you look at them, sleeping birds, etc. Whuile it is good to urge caution in Trumpeter Swan ID, I do think that with care and practice they can be sorted out reliably, Greg Gillson's story notwithstanding. I have gone through that phase of being overly cautious about ID'ing Trumpeter Swans, but after five years of observing these birds very carefully, I think that's a mistake. Being overly cautious will result in failing to document Trumpeter Swans that are actually around, and in the long run does a disservice to documenting the recovery of this species. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From rkorpi at hotmail.com Tue Jan 7 17:30:31 2003 From: rkorpi at hotmail.com (Ray Korpi) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Oregon Listing Submission Page Message-ID: Hi all, It's that time of year again--time to submit life and 2002 totals for birds within Oregon. To do this via the web, go to http://thor.clark.edu/korprt/ListHome.htm and fill in the boxes. The forms will be e-mailed to Jamie Simmons, who will compile them for publication in Oregon Birds. A link from the OFO web site will be forthcoming. Ray Korpi rkorpi@hotmail.com Vancouver WA _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From Hhactitis at aol.com Tue Jan 7 19:23:02 2003 From: Hhactitis at aol.com (Hhactitis@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Benton Co. Common Goldeneye Message-ID: Hello OBOL, after successfully listing the Florence BALTIMORE ORIOLE this morning (with Daniel Farrar), I made a brief stop at Finley NWR on my way home. It was too foggy to see much of anything, but there were 2 male COMMON GOLDENEYES on McFadden Marsh - a species that is not too common in Benton Co. There were also several GADWALL with a large flock of AM. WIGEONS along Bruce Rd. just west of the railroad tracks. Good birding Hendrik Herlyn ___________________________________ Hendrik G. 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Shepard North American Bird Information Web Site: http://www.islandnet.com/~mgs/birds/ From birdsong at harborside.com Tue Jan 7 22:41:44 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Baltimore Oriole Message-ID: <3E1BC828.90802@harborside.com> Anyone want to receive some images of the Oriole to stick on the web? Dave Lauten birdsong@harborside.com From garbledmodwit at yahoo.com Wed Jan 8 07:15:45 2003 From: garbledmodwit at yahoo.com (Tim Rodenkirk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Palm Warblers 1/7/03 Message-ID: <20030108151545.15038.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> The large PALM WARBLER flock is still around the Floras Lake area of Curry County if anyone is interested. I have seen it twice at the barn along the north road that goes into Floras Lake (where the road does a sharp left turn and the silos are). Yesterday (1/7/03) I saw at least 10 PAWA's (all palmurum's, the western race) but I'm sure there were many more (I saw 20 there a while back). They were everywhere- in the bush right next to me, flycatching at my feet, on a fenceline, in and out of the grass, flying to and fro over the roof of a barn- one was flycatching from a rear view mirror of a truck (would have been a "cute" video). It was quite a spectacle, the flock activity was almost Yellow-rumped like. I heard many more behind the barn out of view, but this is private property so I wouldn't go back there without permission (I didn't ask nor have I tried). Terry Wahl had a flock he estimated to be 18-25 birds on the Port Orford CBC somewhere out on this private ranch, probably the same flock. He also saw seven other PAWA's in the area. It was nice again, 63F for the high in Coos Bay yesterday and in the 70's further south. Tim R Coos Bay __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From 3sisters at outlawnet.com Wed Jan 8 07:43:49 2003 From: 3sisters at outlawnet.com (Stephen Shunk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Ft Rock Raptors Message-ID: Hello all, Apologies for the belated post ... On Sunday, 1/5, Kris Falco, Susan Jackson, Rachel Cornforth and I made our first-of-the-season trek to the Ft. Rock Valley in search of wintering raptors. Dense fog drove us south to the Silver Lake basin for the morning, followed by a brief jaunt to Summer Lake, and then the afternoon in Christmas and Ft. Rock valleys. In all we traveled 196 miles in the region and tallied 76 individual raptors of 9 different species. The abundance of ROUGH-LEGGED and RED-TAILED HAWKS allowed for superb study and nice comparisons with easily found FERRUGINOUS HAWKS, PRAIRIE FALCONS and GOLDEN EAGLES. A summary of the tally is below. We will run four more day trips to the region this winter: JAN 31 and FEB 2, 21 & 23. We have space for 5 birders on each tour, so please contact me ASAP if you are interested in joining us. Joyful winter birding! Steve Shunk FT. ROCK REGION WINTER RAPTOPRS SUNDAY, JANUARY 5, 2003 -------------------------------------- BALD EAGLE - 3 NORTHERN HARRIER - 1 (+1 more at Summer Lk) SHARP-SHINNED HAWK - 1 (in town of Silver Lk) RED-TAILED HAWK - 20 (+9 more at Summer Lk) FERRUGINOUS HAWK - 3 ROUGH-LEGGED HAWK - 26 (+1 more at Summer Lk) GOLDEN EAGLE - 4 AMERICAN KESTREL - 4 (+1 more at Summer Lk) PRAIRIE FALCON - 3 -- Stephen Shunk Community Solutions Sisters, OR 541-549-8826 (home) 541-408-1753 (cell) 541-549-8937 (fax) GET INVOLVED WITH THE OREGON CASCADES BIRDING TRAIL! http://www.oregonbirdingtrails.org/ "Creative Solutions for Small Businesses and Rural Communities" From jgeier at attglobal.net Wed Jan 8 08:12:03 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Swan ID -- a correction Message-ID: <3E1C4DD3.F8FFC917@attglobal.net> Hello birders, David Fix kindly noted that he has seen a thin red border on the mandible (i.e. "red lip") on some Tundra Swans. Checking again on what the Trumpeter Swan Society has to say, I notice they mention this possibility too. So better make that: 5) Red lips: Trumpeters have 'em, Tundras [usually] don't. Also, I might as well note that most of the usual Polk Co. wintering flock of Trumpeter Swans is still unaccounted for this year. Last year my high count for the flock was a bit over 60 (plus or minus 5 birds), continuing a steady increase since the mid- to late 1990s when 30 to 40 used to winter in the Maple Grove area (Roy Gerig was the one keeping tabs on them back then). So barring a disastrous nesting season for this flock, which I certainly hope was not the case, there should be at least 50 Trumpeter Swans wintering in an as-yet undiscovered location. Happy swan scanning, Joel -- Joel Geier Suveropolis (erstwhile Trumpeter Swan capital of Oregon) jgeier@attglobal.net From polktice at juno.com Tue Jan 7 09:36:01 2003 From: polktice at juno.com (William A Tice) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Mangrove Warbler? Message-ID: <20030108.084227.-3945819.0.Polktice@juno.com> Hi FOlks, Does anyone know if the Mangrove Warbler has really ever been split from the Yellow Warbler? Am going to Costa Rica in February and it would be helpful to know. Thanks Bill Tice ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From jorrie at teleport.com Wed Jan 8 08:55:36 2003 From: jorrie at teleport.com (Jorrie & Ken) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: White-throated Sparrow at Waldport Message-ID: Good Morning OBOLers, A WHITE-THROATED SPARROW was at the feeder this morning. We haven't seen one in a few months. Jorrie & Ken Ciotti 44N26 124W04 4 miles east of Waldport, Oregon jorrie@teleport.com From tc at empnet.com Wed Jan 8 10:34:01 2003 From: tc at empnet.com (Tom Crabtree) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Mangrove Warbler? References: Message-ID: <00dd01c2b744$841011e0$2f05a8c0@empirenet> Bill, It is a damned pretty bird to look at regardless of its taxonomic status. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "William A Tice" To: "Obol" Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: Mangrove Warbler? > Hi FOlks, > Does anyone know if the Mangrove Warbler has really ever been split from > the Yellow Warbler? Am going to Costa Rica in February and it would be > helpful to know. Thanks > > Bill Tice > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > From lundjo at open.org Wed Jan 8 11:04:41 2003 From: lundjo at open.org (john lundsten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermilion Flycatcher at Woodburn Message-ID: <000a01c2b748$ec162dc0$8a6802c7@john> Today at 8:30 AM I saw a bright male Vermilion Flycatcher near a golf course in north Woodburn. Shelley Latin lives a few blocks away, and has seen the bird for the past 3 months as she walks her dog in the area, but did not know what it was. Yesterday she decided the bird had to be a Vermilion Flycatcher and called the Salem paper, who passed the call on to me. What luck fo me! The underside of this bird is a somewhat lighter orange/red, but otherwise fits the adult male illustration in Natl. Geographic. Location; Go east on 214 from the I5 exit. In about a mile turn left (north) on Boones Ferry Rd. In about a half mile go right on Tukwila Dr. Turn right again on Hazelnut Dr. The golf course and some walkways are on both sides of the road. There is a small parking pullout on both side of the rd. The bird was perched near a small pond on some brown plastic stakes that circle a small pond on the south side of the road John Lundsten Salem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A very striking bird amidst the drab browns and dull reds of our usual wintering species! Many thanks to the friendly home owners. Barry McKenzie Eugene From winkg at hevanet.com Wed Jan 8 12:55:05 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: RBA: McCown's Longspur, Portland Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030108123223.021b47a0@pop.hevanet.com> The longspur found by Iain Tomlinson yesterday in the Rivergate district of N Portland, was refound by Iain, John Fitchen, and Bob Stites this morning about 10:30AM. I was fortunate enough to come along just in time to see their prize. The consensus among those present is that it is a McCOWN'S LONGSPUR. I will put up some video captures shortly. Wink Gross Portland From iaintom at yahoo.com Wed Jan 8 12:56:24 2003 From: iaintom at yahoo.com (Iain Tomlinson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Mult. McCown's Longspur Message-ID: <20030108205624.95528.qmail@web9807.mail.yahoo.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030108/3d70667d/attachment.htm From celata at pacifier.com Wed Jan 8 13:00:51 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: BANDING REPORT: Neawanna Wetland - 1/8/2003 Message-ID: <3E1C917E.D9992109@pacifier.com> BANDING REPORT- Neawanna Wetland Preserve 01-08-2003 Method: Up to eight 9m mist nets are placed in mixed Oregon Crabapple/Twinberry/Spruce along the the upper Neawanna River, Seaside, Clatsop Co. OR. Captured birds are measured, ringed with USBBL numbered metal bands and released. Data on time of capture and side of net captured are also recorded to gain an understanding of movements through the area. Winter sparrow efforts will place special emphasis on identifying FOX SPARROWS, SONG SPARROWS and WHITE-CROWNED SPARROWS to subspecies. 2003 0108 Neawanna 8 Hours 2.5 Nets 5 Net*hours 12.5 Ruby-crowned Kinglet RCKI 3 Dark-eyed Junco ORJU 2 Spotted Towhee SPTO 1 Fox Sparrow FOSP 4 Song Sparrow SOSP 1 Purple Finch PUFI 1 House Finch HOFI 2 Recaptures first captured Dark-eyed Junco ORJU 1 02/26/2002 Fox Sparrow FOSP 1 03/20/2000 new captures 14 total captures 16 diversity 6 birds/(net*hour) 1.28 diversity/(net*hour) 0.48 We took advantage of the ridiculously beautiful weather to do some sparrow banding. We were especially lucky catching FOX SPARROWS most of which were of the larger sized (and thicker billed) _sinosa_ end of the Sooty spectrum. A partial list of birds seen but not captured include: Merlin (_columbarius_ for Dave Fix) American Kestrel Downy Woodpecker Steller's Jay Bewick's Wren Marsh Wren Winter Wren Black-capped Chickadee Lincoln's Sparrow White-crowned Sparrow http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/observatory/observatory.html -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From larmcqueen at msn.com Wed Jan 8 13:08:11 2003 From: larmcqueen at msn.com (Larry McQueen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Eugene Alton Baker Park Message-ID: <000501c2b75a$0dd8d910$0200000a@newcomputer> Dennis Arendt and I decided a good place to bird this morning in the fog would be Alton Baker. We found most waterbirds in the backwater "canoe trail" and ponds: 11 HOODED MERGANSERS, one female COMMON MERG, 4 BUFFLEHEAD, 2 GADWALLS, 1 WOOD DUCK, several PIED-BILLED GREBES, MALLARDS, 5 LESSER SCAUP, many WIGEON and CANADA GEESE. Of the gulls standing around in the grassy area, most were RING-BILLED, some MEW and GLAUCOUS-WINGED, 1 adult WESTERN GULL, and there was one that was a dead-ringer for a 1st-yr. VEGA, as illustrated in Sibley. It seemed not much different in size to the Ring-billed, had an all dark smallish bill and a crisply barred mantle, and marked just like the 1st winter bird on page 217. Of the many immature gulls present, each was different than all the others, just the usual NW menagerie. Larry McQueen Eugene From winkg at hevanet.com Wed Jan 8 13:48:26 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur, Portland Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030108133953.021b4e18@pop.hevanet.com> I have, somewhat ineptly, put video frame captures of the N Portland Longspur up on http://www.hevanet.com/winkg/birdphotos/mclo.htm Sure looks like McCown's to me. Wink Gross Portland From Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us Wed Jan 8 14:17:05 2003 From: Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Longspur site Message-ID: <3514F6D1DB66D311809D009027856D0801062AE9@mercury.osac.state.or.us> Could the observers of the McCown's Longspur clarify as to whether it is in a posted "no trespassing" zone? What is the land ownership there? Alan L. Contreras From pamelaj at spiritone.com Wed Jan 8 15:13:42 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Mult. McCown's Longspur Message-ID: <004701c2b76b$96ce95a0$cdc663d8@sburock> I arrived at the Longspur site to find a band of desperadoes looking through scopes at what appeared at first to be a barren waste of silt. As I walked up, Horned Larks began to materialize across the surface. At last Mike Marsh saw the mystery bird, and after seeing it myself and looking at Ed McVickers' copy of Rising, I'm very cheered to see that our predecessors' i.d agrees with ours. If it had not moved around, the light chestnut wingbar might not have appeared. It flew a short way, giving a two-note flight call and undulating shallowly. Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From winkg at hevanet.com Wed Jan 8 15:20:02 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: OBOL: Pittock, NW Portland, week ending 1/8/03 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030108150741.03814d50@pop.hevanet.com> Here is the summary of my morning dogwalks from NW Seblar Terrace to the Pittock Mansion for the week 1/2 to 1/8/03. Species in ALL CAPS were neither seen nor heard the previous week. Additional information about my dogwalk can be found at http://www.hevanet.com/winkg/dogwalkpage.html We did the walk 7 days this week. Species # days found (peak #, date) DOUBLE-CRESTED CORMORANT 1 (1, 1/3) Canada Goose 5 (145, 1/6) Sharp-shinned Hawk 1 (1, 1/3) COOPER'S HAWK 1 (1, 1/8) Red-tailed Hawk 2 (1, 1/2 & 3) Glaucous-winged Gull 2 (3, 1/7) Gull sp. 1 (1, 1/8) Mourning Dove 1 (2, 1/5) Anna's Hummingbird 6 (4, 1/7) Red-breasted Sapsucker 2 (1, 1/3 & 6) Downy Woodpecker 4 (3, 1/5) Hairy Woodpecker 2 (1, 1/5 & 8) Northern Flicker 7 (6, 1/5) Golden-crowned Kinglet 4 (25, 1/4) Ruby-crowned Kinglet 5 (2) Bewick's Wren 2 (1) Winter Wren 6 (3, 1/3) American Robin 6 (60, 1/8) Varied Thrush 7 (8, 1/4) Bushtit 2 (25, 1/5) Black-capped Chickadee 7 (30, 1/4) Chestnut-backed Chickadee 6 (15) Red-breasted Nuthatch 5 (7, 1/8) Brown Creeper 1 (2, 1/7) Steller's Jay 6 (8, 1/8) Western Scrub-Jay 2 (2) American Crow 4 (7, 1/7) European Starling 4 (7) Hutton's Vireo 1 (1, 1/3) Spotted Towhee 7 (8, 1/8) Fox Sparrow 2 (1, 1/5 & 8) Song Sparrow 7 (25, 1/8) Dark-eyed Junco 7 (45, 1/5) House Finch 7 (30) Pine Siskin 4 (145, 1/6) In the neighborhood but not found on dogwalk: CALIFORNIA QUAIL (fide neighbor) Wink Gross Portland From winkg at hevanet.com Wed Jan 8 16:36:14 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur access Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030108162910.037b6d00@pop.hevanet.com> I have talked with people at the Port of Portland, which owns the property where the McCown's Longspur was seen today. Their position is that, while they don't want to say it's OK to walk out there and thereby open access to everyone, they aren't going to prosecute if you do. They ask that we be discreet about it, and not to drive any vehicles out there. This particular area is slated for development in the near future. However, they intend to provide habitat at other sites for open-country species, and are interested in our observations of birds on their property. Wink Gross Portland From christopher.butler at wolfson.oxford.ac.uk Wed Jan 8 16:59:37 2003 From: christopher.butler at wolfson.oxford.ac.uk (Christopher Butler) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermillion Flycatcher still present at 3:40 PM Message-ID: The VERMILLION FLYCATCHER was not refound at the ponds near the edge of the road as described in a previous post, but was found further out in the golf course at a different pond. However, it seems to move widely around the golf course and perhaps beyond and visited at least two of the small ponds while I was there (as well as flycatching from trees). Some effort may be required to find it, as it was apparently not seen between 1:00 - 3:40 PM... Good luck to all those who chase after this beautiful bird! - Chris Butler Chris Butler EGI Department of Zoology University of Oxford South Parks Road Oxford, OX1 3PS UK From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Wed Jan 8 17:29:53 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: non-bird question Message-ID: <000701c2b77e$9e9ac2a0$0faaa43f@hppav> Surely there is a Salmon "expert" signed on to OBOL. I have a Chinook Salmon question. What specifically do these Salmon prey on while in their ocean environment? Are they specific to a few prey species? What might their prey items be? Is there any data out there on what Chinook Salmon (introduced) feed on in the Great Lakes? Can respond direct to me, Thanks, Dennis From jeffgill at teleport.com Wed Jan 8 16:34:54 2003 From: jeffgill at teleport.com (Jeff Gilligan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Mult. McCown's Longspur In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I was able to locate the McCown's Longspur late this afternoon. It took almost no searching. The whole flock was in the northeast corner of the field, in an area of mostly open sand. I agree completely that it is a McCown's Longspur. Great find gentlemen (Iain and John Fitchen for finding the flock, Stites for mentioning seeing something unusual there that wasn't seen well, Iain for getting the suspect list narrowed yesterday, and then the team ID). In the bright late afternoon light I was able to see that the median coverts were entirely chestnut-colored. It has a wide pale creamy supercilium, thin pale eye-ring, large pinkish bill, very plain sandy-colored face, unstreaked underparts, and is generally very pale creamy-brown with rather regular linear streaking on the back. Based on the chestnut-colored median coverts, I am not sure that it is a first year female bird. Perhaps it is an adult female, or even a first winter male. In the long light of late afternoon there were times when the feather contouring on the sides made the underparts appear streaked, but in most light conditions the underparts appeared unstreaked - which I am sure they were. I was able to watch it from about 40 feet 40X through my Swarovki scope. The light was perfect. I have never seen Horned Larks look better. When the flock flew around a bit the McCown's call were easily discerned from those of the Horned Larks - sounding similar to those of a Lapland Longspur, but not as assertive. This increases my life Horned Larks for Multnomah County by about five fold. Year ago when that area was being first opened up, I went out there in early June, and there were little ponds that had been inadvertently been created. There were no businesses there at the time. One of the ponds had Wilson's Phalaopes and a Franklin's Gull. Things scertainly look different there now. (BTW: The considerable police presence at the slough to the north is where they are looking for the body of a murder victim.) on 1/8/03 12:56 PM, Iain Tomlinson at iaintom@yahoo.com wrote: Today John Fitchen, Bob Stites, Wink Gross, Ed McVicker, and some other local birders went out to look for the longspur. After 2 hours of searching the fog cleared and we got prolonged views of the bird. I beleive the bird is a McCown's-but would suggest that other birders go out and look at the bird-it looks like Sibley's first winter females-so the ID is somewhat trcky-also I have little experience with longspurs. Wink captured some digital shots-I think he will post them later. The bird had a large pinkish bill, large supercillium, no dark on the rear of the auriculars, a hint of rufous was visable on the (median?) coverts, the breastband was a little darker than the throat and unstreaked, the primary projection was reasonably long (I found this hard to see well), the primary spacing was even (John Fichen saw this) and the tail was very white with a black T rather than triangle at the tip (though this is hard to judge in a flying bird). Directions. Go north on I5, take Marine Dr. west for 4 miles-it will then turn south-follow the road south for about 1 mile untill it clims a gentle hill, half way up the hill pull off on the road to the left. Park and follow the road, which soon becomes a track out to the field-the bird is with the horned larks in sandy grass. Iain. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Good birding, Noah Strycker (east of Creswell) From greg at thebirdguide.com Wed Jan 8 18:04:55 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (Greg Gillson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Baltimore Oriole photos Message-ID: <002001c2b783$823f9900$8aa5efd8@guide> I placed Dave Lauten's video captures of the Florence Baltimore Oriole on the Oregon Rare Bird Photo Archive on The Bird Guide's web page: http://thebirdguide.com/ Greg Gillson Cornelius, Oregon greg@thebirdguide.com http://thebirdguide.com From jmeredit at bendnet.com Wed Jan 8 18:13:46 2003 From: jmeredit at bendnet.com (Judy Meredith) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Fw: Baltimore Oriole photos Message-ID: <00d501c2b784$be2420c0$9524a3ce@joem> Obol Great photos Dave. So, has anyone seen the mystery second bird? Has anyone talked to the homeowner? She mentioned that they usually came in together but that the paler bird tended to hang back a bit. She thought it was another Baltimore Oriole. Just curious. Maybe there will be info to sweeten the chase? Judy Meredith jmeredit@bendet,com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Gillson" To: "Obol" Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: Baltimore Oriole photos > I placed Dave Lauten's video captures of the Florence Baltimore Oriole on > the Oregon Rare Bird Photo Archive on The Bird Guide's web page: > http://thebirdguide.com/ From baileydc at pdx.edu Wed Jan 8 18:40:14 2003 From: baileydc at pdx.edu (David C. Bailey) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur Message-ID: <000f01c2b788$c5641120$5f78fea9@suzanna> I must have just missed Jeff Gilliagan. I birded the previously metioned area of the Rivergate industrial area and found the MCCOWN'S LONGSPUR after a while also in the NE corner of the field (SE of the large dirt mounds). I was there from about 15:30-16:10 and the light was perfect as I had it to my back as I viewed the birds. The many HORNED LARKS were stunning with bright yellows and pinkish-rust tones. The McCowns was as Jeff and Ian and others have described it. I would add that the plain pale gray unstreaked underparts show a black breast crescent when the bird was facing me (the light was low from behind me). This black crescent was not overly conspicuous, but it was clearly there. One of Wink's photos shows this somewhat, but not like I saw it when the bird was facing me and into the light. Also, the bird showed a pale gray rump that was different from the more anterior upperparts which were darker. The all chestnut median coverts were very evident. They were edged in buff, as were the flight feather. With the black breast crescent and the bright chestnut coverts I lean towards this being a male. What would be the difference between adult and immature male at this date? (My Pyle guide is not with me). Great find and a life bird for me! Glad I didn't have to travel 7 hours to State-line Road. I saw this bird from about 30 feet through 10x Elites. Thanks to Iain, John, Bob, Wink, et al. David baileydc@pdx.edu From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 8 18:36:29 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Linn County - Raptor Run #5 Message-ID: <20030109023629.56473.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From greg at thebirdguide.com Wed Jan 8 18:46:52 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (Greg Gillson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: instructive beached seabird photos Message-ID: <005601c2b789$5e9327a0$8aa5efd8@guide> OBOL, Judy Stone-Roth sent me a couple of photos of seabirds that washed up on the beach recently. These are instructive in a couple of ways, and I urge all to take a look. First is an Ancient Murrelet: http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/ancient.jpg Identified by the yellow-tipped bill, dark feathering on chin and upper throat, and white under wing linings. Ancient Murrelets, Common Murres, Xantus's Murrelets, and Black Guillemots have similar white under wing linings. It is the white wing linings that I want you to compare with the next photo. The second bird is Cassin's Auklet: http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/cassins.jpg First, note the dark gray under wing linings. Cassin's Auklets, Rhinoceros Auklets, Craveri's Murrelets, Pigeon Guillemots, and Marbled Murrelets are all similar. If you look at Sibley, you'd think there was no way this bird could be a Cassin's. This bird has extensive white underparts! The dark wing linings, grayish head and upper breast, short rounded bill with pale gonys spot on lower mandible, and white eye arcs all leave no doubt as to its identity, however. There is quite a lot of variation in the apparent extent and brightness of the underparts. When swimming in the water, though, they usually look dark to the waterline. Greg Gillson The Bird Guide, Inc. greg@thebirdguide.com http://thebirdguide.com From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 8 19:11:02 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Linn County - Raptor Run #5 Message-ID: <20030109031102.60244.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> Obolers, Despite foggy conditions today, I conducted my fifth raptor run of this winter. Todays route was in Unit 2 which covers the area east of Riverside Dr, north of Highway 34, west of Tennessee Rd near the Santiam River, and south of Highway 20. This was the second census of this unit. I spent 5 hours and 10 minutes driving 114 miles. I started the count at 11:30 AM and finished at 4:40 PM. The fog limited my visibility to around a quarter mile for the first hour and a half. Following are the sightings for the day. The number in ( ) is what I saw on the first trip through this area on November 27. Red-tailed Hawk 37 (38) American Kestrel 38 (23) Northern Harrier 4 ( 3) Bald Eagle 1 ( 1) Rough-legged Hawk 1 - Prairie Falcon 1 - Cooper's Hawk 2 - Peregrine Falcon - ( 1) The Prairie Falcon was observed on Stellmacher Rd off of Riverside Drive. The Rough-legged Hawk was seen soaring over the grass field at the intersection of Ellingson Rd and Columbus Ave. Other birds of note seen along the route included one immature NORTHERN SHRIKE on Langmack Rd just north of its intersection with Gore Rd and a group of 10 GREAT EGRETS at the intersection of Kennel Rd and Spicer Dr. All in all not a bad day of observing despite the fog. My gut feeling is that I probably missed a few birds during the first part of the drive because of the fog. Will probably do another run before the week is over. Tommorrow I might have to sneak up to Woodburn to see the Vermillion Flycatcher :) Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From ndbarret at medford.net Wed Jan 8 19:24:31 2003 From: ndbarret at medford.net (ndbarret) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Golden Plover photo ID References: Message-ID: <006701c2b78f$655b8c20$5a8c0945@default> This is an interesting discussion because the three birders who actually saw the bird (I was one) wanted very much to make an American out of it and were totally unable to. As have often been said, Photos don't tell all and can be misleading. Ww did the primary count (two or three depending on light angle), looked at yellow wash, leg length ... It kept coming out Pacific. Optics used included a Kiwa and a Swor. spotting scope, light was bright sun. Distance was as close as 50 ft for a while. The bird was observed for several hours over several days. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KACastelein and DJLauten" To: "Obol" Cc: "Obol" ; Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Golden Plover photo ID > Taking Mike on his word, if this plover has four primaries tips > extending beyond the tertials, I agree with Mike, it's an AMERICAN. > > Dave Lauten > > Mike Patterson wrote: > > > I brightened the image and count 4 primaries... > > > > When first asked about this photo, called it an > > American. > > > > KACastelein and DJLauten wrote: > > > >>Folks, > >> > >>I'm not sure if we can safely ID this bird from these two photos alone. > >> The first photo appears to me, on my screen, to have the buffy colored > >>supercilium and the bulbous forehead of a PACFIC. The wing extension > >>looks kind of long, but I am having trouble counting the primary tips. > >>It appears three are extending beyond the tertails, which is ok for > >>PACIFIC, but I have found that many AMERICANS often have a very short > >>gap between the two longest primaries, and if this is the case with this > >>bird, I can't see it. Plus often if PACIFICS have three primaries > >>extending beyond the tertials, often the third one is barely extending > >>beyond the tertials, but to me in the first photo it looks more like > >>this third primary (assuming it is three) is extending more than just > >>barely beyond the tertial. > >> > >>The second phote the bird does not appear to have the bulbous forehead > >>(at least not as much). The supercilium looks buffy but not as much as > >>the first photo; in both photos this could be the color of the film, the > >>lighting, etc etc. The primary extension again looks long, but I can't > >>count any tips at all. > >> > >>If the ID was based on these photos alone, I'd say Golden-plover sp. If > >> there are more details, that would be helpful. > >> > >>Dave Lauten > >>Bandon OR > >>birdsong@harborside.com > >> > >>Greg Gillson wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I have placed 2 Golden-Plover photos from this fall on my web site. These > >>>were taken at Agate Lake, by Jim Livaudais. > >>> > >>>I believe that at the time they were identified as Pacific Golden-Plover, > >>>but several people looking at the photos say it is American Golden-Plover. > >>>I'm not sure. > >>> > >>>Please take a look and make sure to copy Steve Dowlan (FoxSparrows@aol.com) > >>>in your reply, as editor of Oregon Birds where these photos are scheduled to > >>>appear. > >>> > >>>Photos are at: > >>>http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover%202.jpg > >>>http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover.jpg > >>> > >>>Thank you, > >>> > >>>Greg Gillson > >>>Cornelius, Oregon > >>>greg@thebirdguide.com > >>>http://thebirdguide.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > From bcraig at attbi.com Wed Jan 8 19:59:35 2003 From: bcraig at attbi.com (bcraig) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: OBoL -- Vermilion Flycatcher Message-ID: My wife and I and two other birders observed the Vermilion Flycatcher in Woodburn from about 4-4:40 pm this Tuesday afternoon. It was generally in the area of the far two of three ponds SW of the parking areas along the road east of the golf course. It tended to sit on the red 2x2 posts at the edges of the ponds while hunting for flyums. We got excellent views of it sitting on the posts and as it flashed its colors flying around between the posts and the two ponds. Bruce Craig. From acontrer at mindspring.com Wed Jan 8 20:53:48 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermilion Flycatcher inquiry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What are the chances that the Vermilion Flycatcher did not get to Woodburn under its own power? Granted, late fall is a good arrival time for such a bird, but I am told that they are kept as cage birds in Mexico and there is plenty of travel between Mexico and Woodburn. I am coming to look for both birds tomorrow, bringing Anne Heyerly and Hendrik Herlyn. We should reach flycatcher around 8:00 and longspur around 10:00. We'll have our radios on channel 11:22. My cell phone number is 503-871-8041 and contrary to my usual practice I will have it on. We need to leave the Portland area no later than about 11:00 so we'd appreciate any help from people on the scene when we get there. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From newhouse at efn.org Wed Jan 8 21:50:44 2003 From: newhouse at efn.org (Bruce Newhouse) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Peregrine Falcon/Eugene Message-ID: <3E1D0DB4.D0EBAA7E@efn.org> Today at about 4 p.m. a PEREGRINE FALCON streaked overhead at the south end of the Autzen Footbridge, just north of the UO campus. It was heading in the direction of downtown. Bruce Newhouse in Eugene From jeffgill at teleport.com Wed Jan 8 21:18:32 2003 From: jeffgill at teleport.com (Jeff Gilligan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermilion Flycatcher inquiry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would strongly assume that it is a vagrant. A few Vermillions have made it to the northwest in the past (including Ridgefield NWR). They love golf courses (or is it coarses?) They aren't very commonly held in captivity. on 1/8/03 8:53 PM, Alan Contreras at acontrer@mindspring.com wrote: > What are the chances that the Vermilion Flycatcher did not get to Woodburn > under its own power? Granted, late fall is a good arrival time for such a > bird, but I am told that they are kept as cage birds in Mexico and there is > plenty of travel between Mexico and Woodburn. > > I am coming to look for both birds tomorrow, bringing Anne Heyerly and > Hendrik Herlyn. We should reach flycatcher around 8:00 and longspur around > 10:00. We'll have our radios on channel 11:22. My cell phone number is > 503-871-8041 and contrary to my usual practice I will have it on. > > We need to leave the Portland area no later than about 11:00 so we'd > appreciate any help from people on the scene when we get there. > > -- > Alan Contreras > Eugene, Oregon > > > > From hnehls at teleport.com Wed Jan 8 23:42:14 2003 From: hnehls at teleport.com (Harry Nehls) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: RBA: Portland, OR 1-9-03 Message-ID: - RBA * Oregon * Portland * January 9, 2003 * ORPO0301.09 - birds mentioned Red-throated Loon Pacific Loon Eared Grebe Brown Pelican Great Egret Turkey Vulture Eurasian Green-winged Teal Black Scoter Long-tailed Duck Gyrfalcon Western Gull Say's Phoebe VERMILION FLYCATCHER BLUE JAY Tree Swallow Barn Swallow Western Tanager Chipping Sparrow MCCOWN'S LONGSPUR Snow Bunting Yellow-headed Blackbird BALTIMORE ORIOLE Lesser Goldfinch - transcript hotline: Portland Oregon Audubon RBA (weekly) number: 503-292-6855 to report: Harry Nehls 503-233-3976 compiler: Harry Nehls coverage: entire state Hello, this is the Audubon Society of Portland Rare Bird Report. This report was made Thursday January 9. If you have anything to add call Harry Nehls at 503-233-3976. On January 7 a MCCOWN'S LONGSPUR was reported from the Rivergate area of North Portland. From I5 go west on Marine Drive. After a few miles the road turns south. About a mile south of the curve turn left onto the short roadway. Park and walk the trail into the open fields. A bright male VERMILION FLYCATCHER is wintering in Woodburn. From I5 go east on Hwy 214. After a mile turn left onto Boones Ferry road, then right on Tukwila Drive. Turn right again on Hazelnut Drive. A golf course and some walkways are on both sides of the road. The bird is seen around the small ponds on the golf course. A bright male BALTIMORE ORIOLE is wintering at a Florence feeder in the back yard of 391 Kingwood Street. Birders are welcome to check it out. BLUE JAYS continue to be seen in Eugene and Springfield. On January 5 a GYRFALCON was at the South Jetty of the Siuslaw River. That day many BARN SWALLOWS were observed flying north in the Florence area. One BARN SWALLOW was at Yachats January 6. A SNOW BUNTING, several BROWN PELICANS, and over 300 BLACK SCOTERS were recorded on the January 4 Yaquina Bay Christmas Count. On January 6 a male WESTERN TANAGER and two LESSER GOLDFINCHES were in Newport. A YELLOW-HEADED BLACKBIRD is now coming to a feeder in Gearhart. On January 4 a GYRFALCON and two BARN SWALLOWS were at Brownsmead east of Astoria. On January 5 a BARN SWALLOW was near the Portland Airport. At least 80 GREAT EGRETS are now in the Scappoose Bottoms. A male EURASIAN GREEN-WINGED TEAL was at Ankeny NWR January 3. A CHIPPING SPARROW was south of Independence January 5. On January 6 a SAY'S PHOEBE was south of Monmouth. A LONG-TAILED DUCK was on the Philomath Sewage Ponds January 3, along with two EARED GREBES. A TREE SWALLOW was there January 5. A SAY'S PHOEBE was near Brownsville January 3. A EURASIAN GREEN-WINGED TEAL was at Fern Ridge Reservoir January 4. Twelve TURKEY VULTURES are wintering in the Fern Ridge area. An adult WESTERN GULL was in Eugene January 8. On January 2 a PACIFIC LOON and two RED-THROATED LOONS were on the Rogue river west of Grants Pass. Thats it for this week. - end transcript From garbledmodwit at yahoo.com Thu Jan 9 07:11:50 2003 From: garbledmodwit at yahoo.com (Tim Rodenkirk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Golden Plover photo ID In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030109151150.27550.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Are the number of primary tips visible the final word on golden-plover ID? More than once I've seen juvie golden-plovers that looked American (no gold-color, strong white supercilium) but had only two or three primary tips visible. I have also seen the opposite, very golden-colored juvies, with a faint golden-colored supercilium with four primary tips visible. If everything doesn't point one way I usually call the bird a golden-plover sp. (which causes fits with many birders, as I saw when I did this once during the shorebird festival and had a couple very unhappy camp-ers who would have had a lifer if I called it one way or the other. Guess I'll never be a "good" guide!). Of course molting adults are even worse! I know some authorities use the number of primaries as a key identification guide, but sometimes I wonder? Tim R Coos Bay --- ndbarret wrote: > This is an interesting discussion because the three > birders who actually saw > the bird (I was one) wanted very much to make an > American out of it and were > totally unable to. As have often been said, Photos > don't tell all and can > be misleading. Ww did the primary count (two or > three depending on light > angle), looked at yellow wash, leg length ... It > kept coming out Pacific. > Optics used included a Kiwa and a Swor. spotting > scope, light was bright > sun. Distance was as close as 50 ft for a while. > The bird was observed for > several hours over several days. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KACastelein and DJLauten" > > To: "Obol" > Cc: "Obol" ; > > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:24 AM > Subject: Re: Golden Plover photo ID > > > > Taking Mike on his word, if this plover has four > primaries tips > > extending beyond the tertials, I agree with Mike, > it's an AMERICAN. > > > > Dave Lauten > > > > Mike Patterson wrote: > > > > > I brightened the image and count 4 primaries... > > > > > > When first asked about this photo, called it an > > > American. > > > > > > KACastelein and DJLauten wrote: > > > > > >>Folks, > > >> > > >>I'm not sure if we can safely ID this bird from > these two photos alone. > > >> The first photo appears to me, on my screen, > to have the buffy colored > > >>supercilium and the bulbous forehead of a > PACFIC. The wing extension > > >>looks kind of long, but I am having trouble > counting the primary tips. > > >>It appears three are extending beyond the > tertails, which is ok for > > >>PACIFIC, but I have found that many AMERICANS > often have a very short > > >>gap between the two longest primaries, and if > this is the case with this > > >>bird, I can't see it. Plus often if PACIFICS > have three primaries > > >>extending beyond the tertials, often the third > one is barely extending > > >>beyond the tertials, but to me in the first > photo it looks more like > > >>this third primary (assuming it is three) is > extending more than just > > >>barely beyond the tertial. > > >> > > >>The second phote the bird does not appear to > have the bulbous forehead > > >>(at least not as much). The supercilium looks > buffy but not as much as > > >>the first photo; in both photos this could be > the color of the film, the > > >>lighting, etc etc. The primary extension again > looks long, but I can't > > >>count any tips at all. > > >> > > >>If the ID was based on these photos alone, I'd > say Golden-plover sp. If > > >> there are more details, that would be helpful. > > >> > > >>Dave Lauten > > >>Bandon OR > > >>birdsong@harborside.com > > >> > > >>Greg Gillson wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>I have placed 2 Golden-Plover photos from this > fall on my web site. > These > > >>>were taken at Agate Lake, by Jim Livaudais. > > >>> > > >>>I believe that at the time they were identified > as Pacific > Golden-Plover, > > >>>but several people looking at the photos say it > is American > Golden-Plover. > > >>>I'm not sure. > > >>> > > >>>Please take a look and make sure to copy Steve > Dowlan > (FoxSparrows@aol.com) > > >>>in your reply, as editor of Oregon Birds where > these photos are > scheduled to > > >>>appear. > > >>> > > >>>Photos are at: > > > >>>http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover%202.jpg > > > >>>http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover.jpg > > >>> > > >>>Thank you, > > >>> > > >>>Greg Gillson > > >>>Cornelius, Oregon > > >>>greg@thebirdguide.com > > >>>http://thebirdguide.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From birdsong at harborside.com Thu Jan 9 07:37:10 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Verm Fly/Balt Oriole Message-ID: <3E1D9726.2040403@harborside.com> Folks, Is a new trend starting? Rare birds that have been "just" discovered have been there for months???? Are we not birding enough????? Is Tim Rodenkirk reeling and threatening to start listing again this year because he could have had two other species on his year list last year had the birds been "discovered" sooner - thus reaching the 365 mark????? What next? : ) Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From alderspr at peak.org Thu Jan 9 08:01:54 2003 From: alderspr at peak.org (J, K & K Fairchild) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Klamath Basin CBC inquiry Message-ID: <000e01c2b7fa$d8f5f560$5d83a3ce@oemcomputer> Fellow Obolniks, Oregon Audubon Chapters voted the Klamath Basin a top conservation priority for the year. I'm interested in knowing if any Oregon Audubon members participated in CBCs in the Klamath Basin this winter, particularly folks who traveled to the basin for birding. Please contact me privately at the below phone or email. Thanks in advance! Jim Fairchild, Audubon Society of Corvallis alderspr@peak.org 541 929-4049 From woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 9 08:42:20 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com (J. Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermilion Flycatcher inquiry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030109164220.78258.qmail@web13607.mail.yahoo.com> When the last Vermillion Flycatcher was reported in Oregon near Irrigon (or somewhere in that general vicinity of north Morrow/Umatilla Counties?), I mentioned on obol that this was an area with a relatively large population of Mexican-Americans, including some who were new to the area direct from Mexico. (Interestingly, Woodburn has a similar population.) It was then pointed out that it would be difficult to keep a VEFL caged--what would you feed it? Meal worms could be cultivated, but I'm doubtful that would happen among that population/culture. (And would a small flycatcher even eat meal worms like Bluebirds will?) Jamie Corvallis --- Jeff Gilligan wrote: > I would strongly assume that it is a vagrant. A few Vermillions > have made > it to the northwest in the past (including Ridgefield NWR). They > love golf > courses (or is it coarses?) They aren't very commonly held in > captivity. > > > on 1/8/03 8:53 PM, Alan Contreras at acontrer@mindspring.com wrote: > > > What are the chances that the Vermilion Flycatcher did not get to > Woodburn > > under its own power? Granted, late fall is a good arrival time > for such a > > bird, but I am told that they are kept as cage birds in Mexico > and there is > > plenty of travel between Mexico and Woodburn. > > > > I am coming to look for both birds tomorrow, bringing Anne > Heyerly and > > Hendrik Herlyn. We should reach flycatcher around 8:00 and > longspur around > > 10:00. We'll have our radios on channel 11:22. My cell phone > number is > > 503-871-8041 and contrary to my usual practice I will have it on. > > > > We need to leave the Portland area no later than about 11:00 so > we'd > > appreciate any help from people on the scene when we get there. > > > > -- > > Alan Contreras > > Eugene, Oregon > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From puaiohi at PEAK.ORG Thu Jan 9 08:49:00 2003 From: puaiohi at PEAK.ORG (Tom Snetsinger 2AAAARBW7AAA) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: OBOL: Access to Birdchat? and Stewart Pond Lincoln Sparrow Message-ID: OBOL, Could someone who subscribes to Birdchat please contact me? I need to solicit photos of my mother (Phoebe Snetsinger) on some of her birding adventures for use in the publication of her book and think that a posting to Birdchat will help. We received a number of nice photos after her death, but typically do not have a record of who the photographer, and we want to request permission for their use and credit the photographers. In order to not flood BirdChat with many copies of this request please contact me privately and I will send you an e-mail that I would like to have forwarded to the Birdchat listserver. Thanks for your help, Tom Snetsinger puaiohi@peak.org P.S. No Palm Warbler at Stewart Pond yesterday on my lunch break. . . a big flock of Yellow-rumped Warblers, the drake Eurasian Wigeon, and a single Lincoln's Sparrow were the highlights. From tanager at nu-world.com Thu Jan 9 09:00:17 2003 From: tanager at nu-world.com (Anne & Dan Heyerly) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermillion Fly. present 1/9/03 Message-ID: <000a01c2b800$97760480$d169fa43@tanager> Obolinks, Anne just called a few minutes ago (actually about 815am) and reported that the VERMILLION FLYCATCHER was being observed as we were speaking. No other information was offered other than there were a boat load of birders there watching the bird. Dan Heyerly (stuck in Eugene working) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030109/70aa28d3/attachment.htm From jmoodie at cocc.edu Thu Jan 9 09:41:36 2003 From: jmoodie at cocc.edu (Jim Moodie) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Deschutes County Goshawk- no Blue Jay Message-ID: <9018ABF0CCB2C44C963FDD221232F100279478@ex1.ad.cocc.edu> OBOLanders, This morning I went to the corner of 6th and Vicksburg in Bend in an attempt to find the BLUE JAY that has been hanging around that neighborhood for the last 6-7 weeks. Though I saw several STELLER'S and SCRUB JAYS, I did not find the BLUE JAY. However, a NORTHERN GOSHAWK flew right in front of me after about 30 minutes of waiting for the jay to show up. Could this mean curtains for the BJ? Stay tuned...I'll check for the BJ again tomorrow and hope for the best. Merry Birding, Jim Moodie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030109/4e01d9c5/attachment.htm From dan at heyerly.com Thu Jan 9 09:56:10 2003 From: dan at heyerly.com (Dan Heyerly) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur 1/9/03 Message-ID: <000901c2b808$650b8c60$06fea8c0@knowledge1> Just received a call from Anne at 958am as she and others were viewing the McCown's Longspur in the area off Marine Dr. in Mult. county. Jealous in Eugene, Dan dan@heyerly.com From Irons5 at aol.com Thu Jan 9 11:10:22 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: OBOL: White-throated Sparrow update Message-ID: <76.2865065b.2b4f231e@aol.com> The tally for White-throated Sparrows has now topped 200 birds, presently at 212, with new reports arriving daily. Lane County (53 birds) holds the slightest of edges over Coos (52 birds) in the race for top reporting county. Benton County birders have turned in a couple new reports in recent days and now stand at 29. Curry County is the other major player at 21. Several counties have reported between 7-10 White-throats. I still have not received reports of significant numbers from Sauvie's Island (Rentenaar Rd had 5 last winter) or Luckiamute Landing which each hosted multiple birds last year. There are no doubt lots of unreported birds lurking around neighborhoods of several western Oregon towns. Keep the reports coming, Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From winkg at hevanet.com Thu Jan 9 11:32:34 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur, Portland Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030109113015.036ab240@pop.hevanet.com> Dave Bailey mentioned the black crescent that occasionally shows on the Portland McCown's Longspur. I've added a photo of that to http://www.hevanet.com/winkg/birdphotos/mclo.htm Wink Gross Portland From pamelaj at spiritone.com Thu Jan 9 13:06:08 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermilion Flycatcher catches fly Message-ID: <003d01c2b822$ef20d3a0$18c563d8@sburock> This morning Bob Stites and I arrived before 10 at the Tukwila development to find Mike Marsh, Ed McVicker, Carol Karlen, Marilyn Van Dyke and Loris Shroyer clustered around a couple of scopes on the left side of Hazelnut Dr. The Vermilion Flycatcher was soon in sight again, and we all got excellent scope views of this delightful and unmistakable bird before being joined by Dave Fleming. It was embarrassingly easy, and I thank Bob, who scouted around for it yesterday and whomever of today's contingent who initially found it. It was very active, picking insects off the grass and the surface of the pond, and flicking its tail up and down when perched on cattail stalks. Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From kestrel at aaahawk.com Thu Jan 9 13:11:32 2003 From: kestrel at aaahawk.com (Carol Ledford) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: OBOL / new Multnomah record set Message-ID: Bill Clemons at Audubon Society of Portland is not signed on OBOL, and he asked that I post the following for him: Iain Tomlinson & John Fitchen wrote: "As many of you probably know, we've spent the past 12 months trying to break the Multnomah County big year record of 200 species set by Joe Evanich in 1988...." To which Bill Clemons would like to add: 1. A BIG congratulations to Iain and John!! 2. A "here here!" to the memory of a good person and a great birder, Joe Evanich, who has left the planet, leaving behind for us all, his fine book "The Birder's Guide to Oregon" and whose record has stood these past 14 years. Congratulations again, from all of us who enjoyed birding vicariously through the two of you, via your postings over the past year. It has been a grand chase. From Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us Thu Jan 9 13:38:02 2003 From: Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermilion and McCowns Message-ID: <3514F6D1DB66D311809D009027856D0801062E70@mercury.osac.state.or.us> Anne Heyerly and, collected en passant, Hendrik Herlyn. We saw the Vermilion flycatcher about 8:00 at the golf course. Bravo the good directions. As we drove up, we found Paul Sullivan being a signpost, pointing us to the bird. Many thanks. It was west of Hazelnut St. just before you get to the second fire hydrant, before you get to the pullouts. It was using a small pond and adjacent birch tree and posts maybe 75 yards east. Disappeared maybe half an hour later but no doubt still around. It shows no "cage wear" but seems to have some buffy edgings to a couple of secondaries, as though it is a bird of the year that is still to molt something. Color seems a little oranger than the glaring red of most. The longspur required half an hour of looking in a 20-mile east wind, rather cold. The larks were split up into several small groups. When Anne Heyerly found the bird it was in the far southern part of the area, but then it relocated in the middle, more or less due east of the parking area toward the big dirt hill that looks like Diamond Head. It is much stubbier looking than the larks on the ground and shows the white tail quite well in flight and sometimes preens it on the ground. Hendrik Herlyn and I are pleased to announce that we have now seen all 4 longspurs in Oregon, nyah nyah, ka-ching ! Alan L. Contreras From rbayer at orednet.org Thu Jan 9 14:12:52 2003 From: rbayer at orednet.org (Range Bayer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: December Lincoln Co. Bird Notes(LONG) Message-ID: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ BIRD FIELD NOTES from the December 2002 Sandpiper 23(10) by Kathy Merrifield The Sandpiper is a publication of Yaquina Birders & Naturalists. Comments in this column about abundance or seasonality refer to LINCOLN COUNTY only. If you have any field notes to share, please contact me by phone (home: 541-753-2503), e-mail (merrifik@ava.bcc.orst.edu), or mail (1152 NW 10th Street, Corvallis OR 97330) by the 20th of the month. These field notes are also on the "Lincoln Co. (Oregon) Bird Notes and Information" web site at: http://www.orednet.org/~rbayer/lincoln/bird.htm (all lower case letters). Abbreviations and some Lincoln Co. site locations: Bayshore Beach=ocean beach along north Alsea Bay Spit, Beaver Creek=creek flowing through Ona Beach State Park, Boone Slough=freshwater slough at about mile 8.9 along north Yaquina Bay Road, Burnham Creek=creek flowing into the NE corner of Alsea Bay; Captain Cook Trail: 2.4 mi inland from Cape Perpetua USFS Visitors Center; Coquille Point=SE Corner of Sally's Bend, Criteser Moorage=marina at about mile 10.2 along north Yaquina Bay Road, Eckman Lake=lake 2 mi east of Waldport along Hwy 34, Eckman Slough=slough between Alsea Bay and Eckman Lake, fide=reported to, Fox Creek=2 mi S of Seal Rock SP on U. S. 101, Hidden Lake=3 mi N of Waldport west of Hwy 101, Hidden Valley=valley between Newport and Toledo accessible by downward road at about mile 11.9 along north Yaquina Bay Road, HMSC=Hatfield Marine Science Center, Idaho Flats=large embayment just east of HMSC, Little Whale Cove=residential area 1 mi S of Depoe Bay, Lost Creek SP=part about 4.75 mi south of Yaquina Bay bridge, Marsh St. marsh=marsh immediately E of Hwy 101 2 mi S of greater Seal Rock, Ona Beach=state park about 6.6 mi south of Yaquina Bay bridge along Hwy 101 ~ at Beaver Creek, PNW=Pacific northwest, Sallys Bend=large embayment east of the LNG tank at Yaquina Bay, Sandpiper Village=residential areas west of Hwy 101 and just north of Waldport, Thiel Creek=creek about 3.5 mi south of Yaquina Bay bridge, Thornton Creek=creek between Toledo and Eddyville, Tidewater=about 8 mi east of Waldport, USFS=US Forest Service, USFWS=US Fish & Wildlife Service, Wandemere=about 0.5 mi north of Ona Beach along Hwy 101, YBSJ=Yaquina Bay South Jetty. * * * * * * * * * * * CORRECTIONS OK, get your laptop: this is too much for just pencil and paper. RC & KS's November swan report was omitted from last month's notes, but it does fit in nicely with the December sequence, don't you think? The results of SB, B&SLo, LO's Beached Bird Survey reported in November were from October but were consistently labeled "November;" a given calendar month's survey results are reported in the Sandpiper of the following month. I'll buy everyone a bottle of Sominex who lost sleep wondering what "OFOBW" stands for. It was Oregon Field Ornithologists Birding Weekend, led by PS. It was ALMOST worth the frustration of making mistakes to experience the kind courtesy of those who submitted corrections. Thank you, RB, BLo, JS, and PS. Yes, I was out to lunch. It was quite tasty. * * * * * * * * * * * LOONS - SHEARWATERS PP seawatched an average of 1.44 hours on each of 17 days during the reporting period: numbers of all three regular loon species were highest on 11/25, when 3000 RED-THROATED LOONS, 18,000 PACIFIC LOONS, and 100 COMMON LOONS flew S. JF, JS, & EH watched hundreds of Pacifics and Red-throateds fly S off Yaquina Head on 11/23, and on 12/3, hundreds of loons, along with murres and scoters, leapfrogged rafts with flight in their southward progression off Wandemere (RC). JGr counted 20 Commons in the mouth of Alsea Bay on 12/16, and on 11/29 near Boone Slough, JS listened to what few in Oregon hear - a calling COMMON LOON. Off Boiler Bay, numbers off WESTERN GREBES peaked at 80 on 11/30 and RED-NECKED GREBES at 35 on 11/15; both flew S. PIED-BILLED GREBES graced the Toledo area and Sally's Bend on 11/23 and the OCA log pond on 11/29 (JS); 6 fished Eckman Lake on 11/23 (KM). On 11/23, 2 RED-NECKED GREBES swam off Yaquina Head (JS&JF) and 5 off Seal Rock (KM), another was off Seal Rock on 11/29 (JS), and 9 rafted in the Sally's Bend channel on 12/1 (KM). Following record low numbers of beached birds along 4.6 miles of beach near Thiel Creek in 2002 so far, BLo wrote of November finds, "Well the dam broke! The total for November was 234 or almost 1.5 times the total for the previous 10 months. Of course the phalaropes were the big story at 181 birds, but the 53 birds of other species was a big month for this year." 35 NORTHERN FULMARS along with 1 SOOTY SHEARWATER and 1 PINK-FOOTED SHEARWATER were found dead there in November (SB, B&SLo, LO). NORTHERN FULMAR numbers off Boiler Bay peaked on 12/16, when 150, mostly dark, flew S; a MANX SHEARWATER flew S there on 12/15 (PP). * * * * * * * * * * * PELICANS - SWANS BROWN PELICAN numbers off Boiler Bay peaked on 11/15, when 1000 flew N (PP). On 11/23, JS observed BROWN PELICANS off Boiler Bay and Yaquina Head, and 45/hr flew N off Yachats (KM). On 11/29, JS watched 119 pelicans fly WNW from an offshore rock. 100 pelicans gathered on Salishan Spit on 12/10 increased to 400 on 12/11, and 580 flocked in adjacent N Siletz Bay on 12/15 (PP). Up to 60 pelicans flew S between Newport and Waldport on 12/12, 12/15, and 12/16 (JGr), on 12/16, SaL counted 46 off Yachats, and on 12/18, MN watched good numbers battle heavy winds E of Hwy 101 in their southward journey. BRANDT'S CORMORANT numbers off Boiler Bay peaked on 12/9, when 800 flew N (PP). 27 DOUBLE-CRESTED CORMORANTS flew S off Boiler Bay on 11/22 (PP), at least 450 flew S off Wandemere on 11/23 (RC), and 85 flew S off Bayshore Beach on 12/7 (DP). Single GREAT EGRETS waded in S Siletz Bay on 11/23 (JS) and Idaho Flats on 12/1, the same day 3 patrolled E Alsea Bay (KM); 1 visited a creek E of Hwy 101 between Waldport and Yachats on 12/10 (JGr). On 11/16, 7 swan sp. flew from E Sally's Bend up the Yaquina embayments before following the river upstream (RC & KS). On 11/25, 4 TUNDRA SWANS -3 adults and 1 juvenile - flew from the Alsea River into Eckman Lake for a food and rest stop; on 12/15, 2 juvenile Tundras dropped into Eckman Lake to escape the storm (RL). 2 immature TRUMPETER SWANS in Eckman Lake identified by DF on 12/16 were resighted by RL on 12/17. * * * * * * * * * * * GEESE - DUCKS Late fall and early winter Yaquina Bay BRANT counts vary because the flock disperses, especially at high tide. Counts of 120 on both 11/23 (JF & JS) and 11/29 (JS) were the highest; counts of 75 on 12/1 (KM) and 20 on 12/16 (JGr) may have missed Brant at Sally's Bend. 6 Aleutian CANADA GEESE flew S off Boiler Bay on 11/22 (PP). Among copious waterfowl in Beaver Creek on 1/18, LO found a probable CANADA GOOSE X WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE and also read 1 goose collar, 263R. 20 WOOD DUCKS hid in Hidden Lake on 12/9 (JGr). Among the Idaho Flats AMERICAN WIGEON flock, numbering 1650 on 12/1 (KM), JF, JS, & EH noted 4 EURASIAN WIGEONS; JF & JS also spotted 2 in Sally's Bend and 4 in Siletz Bay, all on 11/23. LO found another Eurasian in Beaver Creek on 12/18. 150 NORTHERN PINTAILS joined 1300 AMERICAN WIGEONS in E Alsea Bay on 12/1 (KM). 3 REDHEADS along with CANVASBACKS joined the Sally's Bend flock on 11/23, and CANVASBACKS joined RING-NECKED DUCKS and GREATER SCAUP near Toledo on 11/23 (JS & JF). 900 Scaup spp. flocked in Sally's Bend on 12/1 (KM). SURF SCOTER numbers off Boiler Bay peaked on 11/22, when over 1000 flew S; numbers of WHITE-WINGED SCOTERS peaked at 120 and BLACK SCOTERS at 850; both flew S on 12/15 (PP). 376 Surfs/hr flew S in flocks averaging 31 off Seal Rock on 11/23 (KM). 550 Surfs rafted with 400 White-wingeds and 12 Blacks off Yachats on 11/23, the same day 260 Blacks rode the swells N of Yaquina Head; on 12/1, 180 Surfs and 170 Blacks neck-stretched off Seal Rock (KM). 7 HARLEQUIN DUCKS flew N off Boiler Bay on 11/25 (PP), a female was off Seal Rock on 11/29 (JS.); on 11/30, 6 Harlequins sloshed in the surf between Seal Rock reefs (RC), on 12/16, 2 males attended YBSJ (JGr), and on 12/19, MN watched 2 pairs at Seal Rock. A LONG-TAILED DUCK flew S off Boiler Bay on 11/22 (PP). COMMON GOLDENEYES continued in Sally's Bend on 11/23 (JS), and 60 were there on 12/1 (KM). Many of the 900 BUFFLEHEADS in Sally's Bend the same day courted (KM). JF & JS found 3 HOODED MERGANSERS in the Toledo area on 11/23 and RED-BREASTED MERGANSERS in both Sally's Bend and Alsea Bay the same day. 13 Hoodeds were in Boone Slough on 11/29, and 1 marked the mouth of Burnham Creek in Alsea Bay (KM). 4 COMMON MERGANSERS glided through Eckman Lake waters on 11/23, and JS spotted 2 males and 3 females behind a Toledo gas station on 11/29. On 11/29, 60 RUDDY DUCKS swam among scoters off Boiler Bay (GG); PP has never seen Ruddies on the ocean during years of observation (fide GG). * * * * * * * * * * * HAWKS - RAILS 2 WHITE-TAILED KITES flew together near Boone Slough on 11/29 (JF & JS). As of 11/22, RL & DP were observing NORTHERN HARRIERS pluck those tasty RED PHALAROPES from Idaho Flats. An adult BALD EAGLE patrolled Idaho Flats on 11/23 (JF & JS), and another flew over 101 between Waldport and Yachats on 12/10 (JGr). A SHARP-SHINNED HAWK camped outside RL's HMSC office as of 11/22. JS noted a COOPER'S HAWK in the South Beach area on 11/23, PL watched 2 AMERICAN CROWS chase an adult Cooper's outside his HMSC office window, CP saw a subadult Cooper's in Newport on 12/13, and another flew across RC&WN's Wandemere yard on 12/4; STELLER'S JAYS are minimally cautious of Sharp-shinneds but hid for an hour following the Cooper's pass (RC). The resident Sharp-shinned zoomed through Wandemere on 11/24 (WN), and another flew over 101 at Seal Rock on 12/4 (RC). On 12/19, crows harassed a RED-SHOULDERED HAWK along the Idaho Flats Nature Trail (RF). JF & JS spotted a dark PNW-race MERLIN in Idaho Flats on 11/23. A PEREGRINE FALCON preyed on phalaropes in Idaho Flats as of 11/21 (RF). A Peregrine flew over PL's house above the Newport bayfront on 12/17. About 10 MOUNTAIN QUAIL celebrated Thanksgiving at WH's South Beach home on 11/28. JF, JS, & EH detected up to 3 VIRGINIA RAILS in Idaho Flats on 11/23. * * * * * * * * * * * SHOREBIRDS At Depoe Bay on 11/30-12/1, 29 BLACK OYSTERCATCHERS gathered at high tide (GG); at Seal Rock on 11/23, an audience of 3 watched a fourth perform the Piping Display (neck forward, arched down; wings spread and fluttering while calling), a greeting and dominance rather than courtship rite (KM). 8 oystercatchers picked among the rocks there on 11/30 (RC). On 11/23, JF & JS found a ROCK SANDPIPER in Depoe Bay SP. M&PN sorted 3 ROCK SANDPIPERS out of SURFBIRDS and BLACK TURNSTONES while DUNLIN flocks flitted around YBSJ on 11/30, the same day a group of 4 ROCK SANDPIPERS among BLACK TURNSTONES in Depoe Bay SP posed picture-perfect for SM. 2 COMMON SNIPES revealed themselves in Idaho Flats to JF, JS, & EH on 11/23, as did a lone snipe in Boone Slough on 11/29 (JS). A snipe in CD's Beverly Beach yard repeatedly lawn-stabbed the lawn for prey on 12/11. 181 phalarope spp. were found dead along 4.6 miles of beach near Thiel Creek in November (SB, B&SLo, LO). BLo writes, "Presumably the phalaropes were reds, but I have never sorted these birds by species because of the tattered condition in which a lot of the birds are found." RED PHALAROPE numbers off Boiler Bay peaked at over 800 on 11/25 (PP). JF, JS, & EH spotted 19 Reds in Idaho Flats and 5 in Siletz Bay on 11/23, hundreds were off Boiler Bay from 11/29-12/2 (GG), 1 was on HMSC grounds and 5 at YBSJ on 12/16 (JGr), and a few remained in Fox Creek ponds and the Marsh St. marsh as of 12/18 (MN). * * * * * * * * * * * GULLS - ALCIDS 8 HEERMANN'S GULLS flew S off Boiler Bay on 11/25 (PP), and a lone Heermann's flew S off Yaquina Head on 11/23, the same day 2 rested among 360 other gulls in the Yachats River Mouth (KM). 20 BONAPARTE'S GULLS flew S off Boiler Bay on 11/25 (PP), single Bonaparte's joined 15 MEW GULLS in Idaho Flats on 12/1 and 70 Mews off Yachats on 11/23 (KM), and a storm-driven Bonaparte's plied an Adobe Motel puddle in Yachats on 12/16 (SaL). An adult SLATY-BACKED GULL visited Siletz Bay near Cutler City on 11/27 (MM). Off Boiler Bay on 12/16, WESTERN GULL and GLAUCOUS-WINGED GULL numbers both peaked at 500, and CALIFORNIA GULLS peaked at 100; all drifted S (PP). 60 HERRING GULLS on a Siletz Bay sandbar on 12/9 increased to 1000 on Salishan Spit on 12/10 and 1200 in N Siletz Bay on 12/11 (PP). THAYER'S GULLS joined other gulls in Idaho Flats on 11/23 (JS), and multiple Thayer's and Herrings gathered at Ona Beach on 12/1, the same day Thayer's and Herrings rested in the Yachats River mouth (AC). MEW GULLS off Boiler Bay peaked on 11/25, when 150 flew S; Salishan Spit hosted 200 Mews on 12/10, and by 12/11, 300 mostly Mews were there (PP). 6 murre sp., 1 PIGEON GUILLEMOT, 2 CASSIN'S AUKLETS, and 1 RHINOCEROS AUKLET were found dead along 4.6 miles of beach near Thiel Creek in November (SB, B&SLo, LO). Off Boiler Bay on 12/9, numbers of COMMON MURRES peaked at 40,000 flying N, RHINOCEROS AUKLETS at 100 flying both directions, and MARBLED MURRELET at 23 flying S; numbers of PIGEON GUILLEMOTS peaked on 12/15 at 6 and ANCIENT MURRELETS on 11/30 at 90; and up to 2 CASSIN'S AUKLETS were present on 6 seawatch days (PP). GG found ANCIENT MURRELETS conspicuous in the surf at Boiler Bay from 11/29-12/2. A few hundred COMMON MURRES joined the southward leapfrogging seabird flock off Wandemere on 12/3 (RC). * * * * * * * * * * * DOVES - WARBLERS A single MOURNING DOVE remained at MN's Fox Creek feeder on 12/17. During the 12/12 warm, calm night before the storm, GREAT HORNED OWLS hooted from the hillside near SK's Toledo home. At Thornton Creek on 12/19, a BARRED OWL flushed from thinned 20-year-old Douglas fir examined DF from a tree just 40 ft away. JS saw a female ANNA'S HUMMINGBIRD south of Waldport on 11/28 and hear 2 more singing. A RED-BREASTED SAPSUCKER South Beach on 11/24 (EH). A PILEATED WOODPECKER enjoyed a late apple still on the tree in BW's Tidewater yard on 11/26. Yep, she read in field guides, woodpeckers really do eat fruit at times! On 11/24, an immature NORTHERN SHRIKE greeted CP 3 miles north of Toledo. A pair of GRAY JAYS joined WN for a hike along the Cape Perpetua Captain Cook Trail on 11/29. On 11/23, the South Beach area hosted lots of WRENTITS (JF, JS, & EH). RC, accustomed only to their skulking darts through dense brush, wrote on 11/29, "WRENTITS CAN fly!" after 1 chose the longest (75 ft) intershrub route across her Wandemere lawn. JS ferreted out a BROWN CREEPER in the Toledo area on 11/23 as well as a hat trick of BEWICK'S WRENS, WINTER WRENS, and MARSH WRENS. VARIED THRUSHES move down from the forested hills when the weather turns cold. After feasting on wax myrtle berries on 11/23, a pair frequenting RF's wooded Newport property toppled over, unable to stand. Yes, they were drunk - a not uncommon phenomenon among eaters of fruit, which can ferment during the cooler months. RC noted the first pair of Wandemere VARIED THRUSHES on 11/21, a pair was established in GB's Little Whale Cove forested yard as of late November, and many, along with HERMIT THRUSHES, occupied the South Beach area on 11/23 (JF, JS, & EH), as did HERMIT THRUSHES along S Siletz Bay the same day (JS). JGr wins the VARIED THRUSH jackpot - several were at Hidden Lake on 12/9, and 8 visited her Sandpiper Village yard on 12/8. JS found a PALM WARBLER for JF & EH to admire near Sally's Bend on 11/23. * * * * * * * * * * * SPARROWS - FINCHES RC's Wandemere FOX SPARROW count reached 8 as of 11/24, when many were ensconced in the South Beach area (JF, JS, EH). CP saw a SWAMP SPARROW in Toledo on 11/24, and he and JS found one in the same area on 11/29, when JS also enjoyed LINCOLN'S SPARROWS, SONG SPARROWS, and FOX SPARROWS behind a Toledo gas station and GOLDEN-CROWNED SPARROWS along Boone Slough. The 12/8 "bounty of DARK-EYED JUNCOS and Chickadees" in JGr's Sandpiper Village yard was a representative example of many good habitats in late fall. As of 11/24, RC gave up trying to count the juncos but estimated the Wandemere breakfast flock at over 50. JF & JS observed WESTERN MEADOWLARKS along Idaho Flats on 11/23, as did JS on 11/29. During the week of 12/10, a meadowlark manipulated a motionless, perhaps dead, praying mantis about 8 ft outside DP's USFWS HMSC office window. Also brightening the short days were 2 AMERICAN GOLDFINCHES at JGr's Sandpiper Village feeder on 12/15. OBSERVERS: Gloria Baum, Range Bayer, Sara Brown, Alan Contreras, Carol DeLancey, Darrel Faxon, Roy Filby, Joe Fontaine, Eric Horvath, Greg Gillson, Jill Grover (JGr), Wayne Hoffman, Steve Kupillas, Peter Lawson, Sally Lockyear (SaL), Bob (BLo) & Shirley Loeffel, Roy Lowe, Sylvia Maulding, Mike Marshall, Kathy Merrifield, Harry Nehls, Walt Nelson, Michael Noack, Michael & Petra Nomina, Laimons Osis, Chuck Philo, Phil Pickering, David Pitkin, Jamie Simmons, Kit Struthers, Paul Sullivan, Bunny Wright. From birdsong at harborside.com Thu Jan 9 14:35:26 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: South Coastal birds Message-ID: <3E1DF92E.7060400@harborside.com> We have been surveying the coast for the past week and noted a few good birds. In Douglas County on Jan 7, we noted a MERLIN on the beach at Dunes Overlook. At Tahkentich Estuary we noted one pigmentless/leucistic GULL (I hesitate to call it an albino, as I did not note pink eyes and most of these plumaged birds are not really albino but lack pigments in their feathers). I didn't have time to film it, but by shape, size and bill (which was large and yellow with a spot near the end), I guessed it was either a WESTERN, GLAUCOUS-WINGED, or a hybrid. This is the third nearly all white gull I have seen over the past several years that was not a Glaucous (which are never all white). On Jan 8 south of the Umpqua River, along the beach access road, we noted 1 TUNDRA SWAN in a pool of water on the east side of the road. We wondered if this was a good Douglas Cty bird???? On 8 Jan, further south in Coos Cty at Tenmile Estuary, we had a NORTHERN SHRIKE and 9 TUNDRA SWANS were in the lagoon on the back side of the dunes (along with a nice variety of other waterfowl). South of Horsfall St PK along the beach adjacent to the North Spit Coos Bay was another NORTHERN SHRIKE. A PEREGRINE FALCON was on one of the Snowy Plover nesting areas on the North Spit Coos Bay. Today, 9 Jan, on our way home through Bandon, we saw a PILEATED WOODPECKER flying high over downtown/old town Bandon. This is a bit of a bizarre location to see a Pileated! Where it was coming from (west) and where it was going to (east) is a mystery! We stopped along North Bank Road by the new section of Bandon Marsh NWR, where the old barns used to be (now torn down). By the old silo area, where the blackberry brambles are, was 1 PALM WARBLER. There were several sparrow flocks around (mostly WHITE-CROWN'S) and a BLACK PHOEBE too. Cheers Dave Lauten and Kathy Castelein Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From birdsong at harborside.com Thu Jan 9 14:54:36 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Golden Plover photo ID References: <006701c2b78f$655b8c20$5a8c0945@default> Message-ID: <3E1DFDAC.1060205@harborside.com> > This is an interesting discussion because the three birders who actually saw > the bird (I was one) wanted very much to make an American out of it and were > totally unable to. As have often been said, Photos don't tell all and can > be misleading. Ww did the primary count (two or three depending on light > angle), looked at yellow wash, leg length ... It kept coming out Pacific. > Optics used included a Kiwa and a Swor. spotting scope, light was bright > sun. Distance was as close as 50 ft for a while. The bird was observed for > several hours over several days. Don't take my word for it! I never saw the bird in life and I agree that pictures are deceiving. As I said in my first email, I was having trouble putting any solid ID on the bird from the photos. Tim Rodenkirk wrote: Are the number of primary tips visible the final word on golden-plover ID? More than once I've seen juvie golden-plovers that looked American (no gold-color, strong white supercilium) but had only two or three primary tips visible. I have also seen the opposite, very golden-colored juvies, with a faint golden-colored supercilium with four primary tips visible. If everything doesn't point one way I usually call the bird a golden-plover sp. (which causes fits with many birders, as I saw when I did this once during the shorebird festival and had a couple very unhappy camp-ers who would have had a lifer if I called it one way or the other. Guess I'll never be a "good" guide!). I'm not sure there is any final word on Golden Plover ID, at least I haven't read anything that indicates there is a final word on Golden Plover ID (maybe there is something out there?). It is my understanding that the number of primary tips past the tertials is one of the best (if not the best) character, but whether this is definitive is another question. Where is anything published about variation in juvenal plumaged Golden Plovers? How does one know whether a juvenile Golden Plover that "looks American" is really an American, or vice versa? I think two facts need to be kept in mind when viewing Goldies: 1) we are on a learning curve, we are still working out the ID characteristics, and we are in a part of the country that has the fortunate (or unfortunate) aspect of having both species pass through in regular but small numbers - thus we see them regularly, but never in such large numbers that one can really look at large numbers of pure flocks of one species to give us an idea of variation. 2) Some birds are not identifiable...yeah, maybe this stinks for some people, but that's reality. It is not the only species that fits in this category. Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KACastelein and DJLauten" > To: "Obol" > Cc: "Obol" ; > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:24 AM > Subject: Re: Golden Plover photo ID > > > >>Taking Mike on his word, if this plover has four primaries tips >>extending beyond the tertials, I agree with Mike, it's an AMERICAN. >> >>Dave Lauten >> >>Mike Patterson wrote: >> >> >>>I brightened the image and count 4 primaries... >>> >>>When first asked about this photo, called it an >>>American. >>> >>>KACastelein and DJLauten wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Folks, >>>> >>>>I'm not sure if we can safely ID this bird from these two photos alone. >>>> The first photo appears to me, on my screen, to have the buffy colored >>>>supercilium and the bulbous forehead of a PACFIC. The wing extension >>>>looks kind of long, but I am having trouble counting the primary tips. >>>>It appears three are extending beyond the tertails, which is ok for >>>>PACIFIC, but I have found that many AMERICANS often have a very short >>>>gap between the two longest primaries, and if this is the case with this >>>>bird, I can't see it. Plus often if PACIFICS have three primaries >>>>extending beyond the tertials, often the third one is barely extending >>>>beyond the tertials, but to me in the first photo it looks more like >>>>this third primary (assuming it is three) is extending more than just >>>>barely beyond the tertial. >>>> >>>>The second phote the bird does not appear to have the bulbous forehead >>>>(at least not as much). The supercilium looks buffy but not as much as >>>>the first photo; in both photos this could be the color of the film, the >>>>lighting, etc etc. The primary extension again looks long, but I can't >>>>count any tips at all. >>>> >>>>If the ID was based on these photos alone, I'd say Golden-plover sp. If >>>> there are more details, that would be helpful. >>>> >>>>Dave Lauten >>>>Bandon OR >>>>birdsong@harborside.com >>>> >>>>Greg Gillson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I have placed 2 Golden-Plover photos from this fall on my web site. >>>>> > These > >>>>>were taken at Agate Lake, by Jim Livaudais. >>>>> >>>>>I believe that at the time they were identified as Pacific >>>>> > Golden-Plover, > >>>>>but several people looking at the photos say it is American >>>>> > Golden-Plover. > >>>>>I'm not sure. >>>>> >>>>>Please take a look and make sure to copy Steve Dowlan >>>>> > (FoxSparrows@aol.com) > >>>>>in your reply, as editor of Oregon Birds where these photos are >>>>> > scheduled to > >>>>>appear. >>>>> >>>>>Photos are at: >>>>>http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover%202.jpg >>>>>http://thebirdguide.com/temp_images/livaudais%20plover.jpg >>>>> >>>>>Thank you, >>>>> >>>>>Greg Gillson >>>>>Cornelius, Oregon >>>>>greg@thebirdguide.com >>>>>http://thebirdguide.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > From shroyers at worldnet.att.net Thu Jan 9 16:27:50 2003 From: shroyers at worldnet.att.net (Shroyer, Loris Joline) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: That Little Woodburn Sparkler In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This morning, with a 29? temp. at my house and heavy frost glistening on the orchards and grasses, I dressed like the Abominable Snowman (insulated boots, down coat, padded ski pants) and left at 8:45 a.m. to drive 25 min. to the area north of Woodburn to see the vermilion flycatcher announced on OBOL. (My first sight of one was the highlight of a birding trip I took 2 1/2 years ago to AZ.) At the Woodburn site I met up with 8 or 10 other birders, and within 15 minutes, by 9:30, we found the little fellow, his bright red topknot, glowing scarlet front and dark back and tail radiant in the brilliant sunlight as he perched and trolled for insects variously from a fence, bushes, and cattails alongside the sculpted golf-course waterway, some 30 feet from Hazelnut Drive and maybe 60 from our parked cars. The waterway also contained buffleheads, mallards, an American widgeon, and a shoveler. The vermilion was not shy, casually enjoying his breakfast(s) in full view of us and still performing when I left 20 minutes later. What a little beauty! I'm glad I could get to him today because by tomorrow there will probably be fewer parking spaces and many more birders there to enjoy him. (It's about the easiest bird viewing you could have.) Just a thought: There is one small pullout area on each side of Hazelnut Drive, and if people would park their cars closer together, each area could accommodate 4 cars. On the way home I birded south of Canby and found a flock of lesser goldfinches shredding the cones of the alders in a yard as well as a pond with what I believe were mew gulls along with buffies and ringnecked ducks. 'Bye for now, Joline, east of Canby From celata at pacifier.com Thu Jan 9 16:47:17 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: BANDING REPORT: Neawanna Wetland - 01/09/2003 Message-ID: <3E1E17FE.2250D6D3@pacifier.com> BANDING REPORT- Neawanna Wetland Preserve 01-09-2003 Method: Up to eight 9m mist nets are placed in mixed Oregon Crabapple/Twinberry/Spruce along the the upper Neawanna River, Seaside, Clatsop Co. OR. Captured birds are measured, ringed with USBBL numbered metal bands and released. Data on time of capture and side of net captured are also recorded to gain an understanding of movements through the area. Winter sparrow efforts will place special emphasis on identifying FOX SPARROWS, SONG SPARROWS and WHITE-CROWNED SPARROWS to subspecies. 2003 0109 Neawanna 8 Hours 2.5 Nets 5 Net*hours 12.5 Dark-eyed Junco ORJU 5 House Finch HOFI 1 Recaptures first captured Ruby-crowned Kinglet RCKI 2 02-12-2002 01-08-2003 Dark-eyed Junco ORJU 3 03-04-2001 09-28-2002 01-08-2003 new captures 6 total captures 11 diversity 4 birds/(net*hour) 0.88 diversity/(net*hour) 0.32 It was a much slower day today and mostly OREGON JUNCOS were caught. http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/observatory/observatory.html -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From jeffgill at teleport.com Thu Jan 9 16:00:34 2003 From: jeffgill at teleport.com (Jeff Gilligan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermilion Flycatcher inquiry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There are now a lot of Hispanic people in many parts of Oregon. Flycathcers tend to wander, especially to do reverse migrations. Most of the Hispanics in Oregon who travel as migrant laborers are not likely to have the time or resources to tend to birds that require special feeding requirements. The Customs Service looks out for birds at border crossings. Mexican nationals who cross illegally are very unlikely to carry pet birds with them. They concentrate of such necessities as water. Birds have all kinds of time to get lost and go far out of range. on 1/9/03 8:42 AM, J. Simmons at woodpecker97330@yahoo.com wrote: > When the last Vermillion Flycatcher was reported in Oregon near > Irrigon (or somewhere in that general vicinity of north > Morrow/Umatilla Counties?), I mentioned on obol that this was an area > with a relatively large population of Mexican-Americans, including > some who were new to the area direct from Mexico. (Interestingly, > Woodburn has a similar population.) > > It was then pointed out that it would be difficult to keep a VEFL > caged--what would you feed it? Meal worms could be cultivated, but > I'm doubtful that would happen among that population/culture. (And > would a small flycatcher even eat meal worms like Bluebirds will?) > > Jamie > Corvallis > > --- Jeff Gilligan wrote: >> I would strongly assume that it is a vagrant. A few Vermillions >> have made >> it to the northwest in the past (including Ridgefield NWR). They >> love golf >> courses (or is it coarses?) They aren't very commonly held in >> captivity. >> >> >> on 1/8/03 8:53 PM, Alan Contreras at acontrer@mindspring.com wrote: >> >>> What are the chances that the Vermilion Flycatcher did not get to >> Woodburn >>> under its own power? Granted, late fall is a good arrival time >> for such a >>> bird, but I am told that they are kept as cage birds in Mexico >> and there is >>> plenty of travel between Mexico and Woodburn. >>> >>> I am coming to look for both birds tomorrow, bringing Anne >> Heyerly and >>> Hendrik Herlyn. We should reach flycatcher around 8:00 and >> longspur around >>> 10:00. We'll have our radios on channel 11:22. My cell phone >> number is >>> 503-871-8041 and contrary to my usual practice I will have it on. >>> >>> We need to leave the Portland area no later than about 11:00 so >> we'd >>> appreciate any help from people on the scene when we get there. >>> >>> -- >>> Alan Contreras >>> Eugene, Oregon >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > From SPECHTELME at aol.com Thu Jan 9 17:10:28 2003 From: SPECHTELME at aol.com (SPECHTELME@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermillion Fly. present 1/9/03 Message-ID: <2D614608.247D6B52.0BED0F6A@aol.com> The vermillion flycatcher was NOT found this afternoon [1-9-03] E.Specht From tewert at email.msn.com Thu Jan 9 18:24:20 2003 From: tewert at email.msn.com (Tom Ewert) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Vermillion Flycatcher is found this afternoon Message-ID: <006801c2b84f$63114ac0$fd40ef41@default> Roy Gerig and I, plus another couple that I forgot the names of, found the Vermillion Flycatcher this afternoon about 4:00. Actually it was very hard to miss. All you have to do if look at the small pond south of the parking spots, look at each red stake and watch the beautiful bird fly from stake to stake. The bird did appear from the direction of the southern pine trees and did some flycatching near the northern pine trees while we were there. There were also 4 Cinnamon Teal on the pond north of the road and we saw a Merlin sitting on a Killdeer during the early part of our search. easy birding Tom Ewert From sylviabird at worldnet.att.net Thu Jan 9 18:34:24 2003 From: sylviabird at worldnet.att.net (Sylvia Maulding) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Linn County, Snow Bunting Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20030109183424.00a42be8@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Hello OBOL This afternoon Paul Sherrell, Diane Pettey and I found a SNOW BUNTING in Linn County. The bird was with a small flock of HORNED LARKS. Directions: From I-5 take the Halsey exit, head west on American Drive. Turn north on Creek Drive, this is a dirt road. Go to the junction of Creek Dr. and Harmony Rd. (at this point Creek Dr. goes to the west and Harmony is straight ahead) drive 1/2 mile on Harmony to where a small creek goes under the road. This is the area that we saw the SNOW BUNTING. Sylvia Maulding (sylviabird@worldnet.att.net) Springfield From ravan at centurytel.net Thu Jan 9 19:05:57 2003 From: ravan at centurytel.net (Judy Stone-Roth) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: digascoping Message-ID: <706C6855-2448-11D7-A7F6-000393DBD552@centurytel.net> >> Hello All, >> Have a Swarovski scope has anyone tried digital still, and movie pics >> with a >> adapter? I talked to a rep. at Swarovski. he suggested a company >> called http://www.scopetronics.com/digitalcam.htm. If you have any >> info, or know someone involved, in this type of scope use, I'd >> appreciate the information I'm using Olympus and Cannon Gl 1. >> >> TIA, >> >> Judy Stone-Roth >> >> Willapa Bay "For it isn't enough to talk about peace. One must believe in it. And it isn't enough to believe in it. One must work for it." -Eleanor Roosevelt www.rainorshinefilmworks.com From sylviabird at worldnet.att.net Thu Jan 9 19:15:20 2003 From: sylviabird at worldnet.att.net (Sylvia Maulding) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Portland McCown's Longspur Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20030109191520.009ffbf8@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Hello OBOL After seeing the Longspur this morning and looking at Wink's pictures, I think this a winter male. This bird has a black crescent on the chest and the wing shows a black primary covert spot. Any other opinions? Sylvia Maulding (sylviabird@worldnet.att.net) Springfield From pat2ly at attbi.com Thu Jan 9 19:26:50 2003 From: pat2ly at attbi.com (Patricia Tilley) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Florence Baltimore Oriole still present in afternoon Message-ID: The Florence Baltimore Oriole made a great showing this afternoon about 1:30 to 2pm for a couple of us birders (Mike Marsh and myself) who had already seen the Vermillion Flycatcher. The owner of the home at 391 Kingwood is most gracious and deserves a medal for his hospitality. There are a nice variety of birds there to watch while waiting. Heading north along Hwy 101 following Diane Pettey's recent posting; the Gray Jays about 6 of them are at the Carl Washburn Campground. No Red Crossbills seen by me or reported by the camp hosts. At the Toketee-Kloochman pullout, there were 3 Turnstones hunkered down in cavities in the rocks with only heads and backs visible. Unfortunately for me, none moved about enough for me to tell if one just happened to be a Ruddy Turnstone. A male Harlequin Duck paddled about in the channels with the incoming tide. And a couple of kayakers in the surf added to my entertainment. Good day, but cloudy, windy and chilly on the south Oregon coast today. Pat Tilley, pat2ly@attbi.com Salem From birdsong at harborside.com Thu Jan 9 20:43:24 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: question about ABA Message-ID: <3E1E4F6C.8080201@harborside.com> Folks, According to recent national recreation surveys, over 2 million people in the US are relatively serious birders - at a minimum they keep a list of species seen (over 70 million people qualify as "birdwatchers" of any kind!). One of the main birding organizations in the country is the American Birding Association. This organization consists of about 20,000 members. This is just a small fraction of the so-called "serious" birders (my words). I am wondering, if you aren't an ABA member, do you have a reason why? I am curious for my own reasons, this is not an official survey of any kind. You can email me privately - and I don't care what your reason is - whether it be because you don't know about ABA, you aren't interested in the what the organization provides, you don't have time, or you dislike the ABA for what ever reason, let me know, I'd love to hear some of the reasons why people aren't members of ABA. Thanks Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From birdsong at harborside.com Thu Jan 9 20:44:41 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Lark Bunting Message-ID: <3E1E4FB9.9080603@harborside.com> Folks, The owners of the house/feeder in Bandon that had the male Lark Bunting this past fall (?) contacted me the other day. They are seeking a photo of the bird, as none of us was kind enough to send them one (oops). Since they were so nice to us all, I really want to help them out. I have digital video of the bird, but when I make stills they tend not to be extremely crisp. I was wondering if anyone out there has really crisp images of this bird, and would you be willing to have a copy made for them? Let me know, and we can work out the details. Thanks Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From jmh at proaxis.com Thu Jan 9 21:13:00 2003 From: jmh at proaxis.com (Jeff and Patricia Harding) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Birding Woodburn Message-ID: <000001c2b866$f2c8b510$aa0a91c6@jeffcb0fcpbmk8> If people are visiting Woodburn, and find the Vermillion Flycatcher quickly, and still have birding calories to burn, there are two other nearby places worth visiting. Woodburn has a very birder friendly sewage treatment plant, on highway 211 just east of town. After enjoying the flycatcher, return to Highway 214, and turn left, east. The highway passes under the railroad tracks, and comes to Highway 99E. Going straight across Hwy 99E, you are then on Hwy 211, the road to Molalla. (214 turned south, onto Hwy 99E to head for Mt. Angel). Heading for Molalla, the Sewage Treatment Plant is on the left after a mile or two, before you drop into the Pudding River Floodplain. There is plenty of parking at the office, which is new, and has nice restrooms. You should ask permission to walk around. Another place to visit is on Carl Road, overlooking a flooded pasture in the Pudding River Floodplain. From the Treatment Plant, go back west to Hwy 99E, and turn right (north). Carl Road is a mile or so up the road, on the right, after you pass the well-fenced juvenile detention facility. Proceed East on Carl, which becomes gravel at some point or other. Just past where the road turns north in a hard 90, you can see the pastures off to the right. Of course I have not been there since last year, but it was a good spot for ducks and geese and stuff then, and as long as you are nearby, you might as well check it out. Perhaps a Bean Goose is hanging with the Canada Geese, or a Ross' Goose with the Swans. Good luck, and let us know what you see! Patricia and Jeff Harding "The seasons they are turning and my sad heart is yearning to hear again the songbird's sweet melodious tone." Bob Dylan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030109/7eab17b6/attachment.htm From snowyowl98683 at msn.com Thu Jan 9 21:26:20 2003 From: snowyowl98683 at msn.com (Mark Miller) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:38 2004 Subject: Balto Oriole, et al. 1/8-9 Message-ID: Hi Everyone-- Marcia Marvin and I saw the Baltimore Oriole in Florence on 1/8, and we chatted with the homeowners a bit. They have not seen the other oriole for at least a couple of weeks. The one remaining oriole eats a lot of suet; maybe someone can bring by a cake or two for it. Interesting birds on the way home today 1/9: a Long-tailed Duck at Yachats State Park, and two Harlequin Ducks and two Rock Sandpipers at Seal Rock. The two Rock Sandpipers differ in size and color enough to make me think that one of them is of the Pribilof subspecies. From the southwest corner of the large pullout south of MP 151 on hwy 101, look for Coast Road, a privately-maintained dirt track. About 0.2 miles south, pull off at a picnic table on the right, and look down on the rocks. They were with a group of Surfbirds and Sanderlings. There is no issue with access, just observe the 5 MPH speed limit. We fed the gulls at Mo's in Newport, but no Glaucous Gull answered the dinner bell. Mark Miller Vancouver, WA snowyowl98683@msn.com From pygmyowl at hotmail.com Thu Jan 9 22:54:46 2003 From: pygmyowl at hotmail.com (Mike Marsh) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Portland McCown's Longspur Message-ID: to me to be nearly as dark as Wink's photo capture shows. I thought it was a medium gray to light gray, depending on the angle of the sunlight. I had the sun behind me and the bird facing me at 25 ft., and looking through a Swarovski scope at 40X. Perhaps when the wind disturbs the chest feathers in a certain way the crescent appears darker??? Of all the pictures in my various guides, I think the bird most closely resembles Sibley's 1st winter female--except it had more rusty coloration in the median coverts--but not nearly as much as Sibley's nonbreeding male. It seems to have to much rusty color to be a female and not enough to be a male. Some of my guides show females having a minimal amount of this, but not as much as our bird. Anyone else see the crescent being as dark as in the photo? Good birding, Mike Michael Marsh Portland, OR PygmyOwl@Hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From tjanzen at attbi.com Thu Jan 9 23:50:09 2003 From: tjanzen at attbi.com (Tim Janzen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Portland McCown's Longspur In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Sylvia, I agree with you that this bird is a male. I think that the black crescent shown in the last scan that Wink Gross put up is simply too extensive for this bird to be a female. I also think that the median wing coverts are also much too rufous to be consistent with a female. I think that a more difficult question is trying to determine whether this bird is a first winter male or an adult male. Adult males in winter plumage are generally depicted as having more extensive black markings across the chest than this bird has although this plumage feature can be variable. I don't have extensive experience with winter-plumaged McCown's Longspurs, but I did see several different males in Klamath Co. 2 years ago and have also seen them in SE Arizona a number of times. This bird seems to have a less extensive black band across the chest than what I have usually seen previously on adult male McCown's Longspurs in winter plumage. Pyle states that one of the features to help differentiate between first winter males and adult males is the pattern of the median wing coverts. He describes the median coverts on first winter males as being largely rufous, with some dark brown coloration, and with cinnamon coloration at the tips. Conversely, he describes the median coverts on adult winter males as being entirely or mostly rufous, with buffy or white coloration at the tips. It is difficult to say whether the tips of the median coverts on our bird are primarily "buffy" or "cinnamon", but I would say they appear more "buffy" than "cinnamon". If the tips of the median coverts are truly buffy this would suggest that the bird is an adult male. The outer three feathers in the median coverts are primarily rufous in our bird while the inner feathers in the median coverts appear to be primarily brown. This could be consistent with either an adult male or a first year male per Pyle's comments. Anyone else with extensive experience with winter-plumaged McCown's Longspurs have an opinion about this bird's age? Sincerely, Tim Janzen Portland -----Original Message----- From: Sylvia Maulding [mailto:sylviabird@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:15 PM To: Obol Subject: Portland McCown's Longspur Hello OBOL After seeing the Longspur this morning and looking at Wink's pictures, I think this a winter male. This bird has a black crescent on the chest and the wing shows a black primary covert spot. Any other opinions? Sylvia Maulding (sylviabird@worldnet.att.net) Springfield From winkg at hevanet.com Fri Jan 10 07:05:10 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030110065629.036e0198@pop.hevanet.com> The presence of the black crescent on the Portland McCown's Longspur depends on whether the bird's breast feathers are puffed out or not. I was fortunate to video the bird while it was preening and dust-bathing so this feature was occasionally quite evident. As to the color of the median covert tips--they appear buffy to me. I put up another (the last for now) captured frame, with the wing extended, at http://www.hevanet.com/winkg/birdphotos/mclo.htm Wink Gross Portland From birdsong at harborside.com Fri Jan 10 07:32:13 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Interesting article Message-ID: <3E1EE77D.9070008@harborside.com> Folks, Read below - interesting article with Oregon connection... Dave Lauten Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:39:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Y. Dumiel" Subject: NY Times article on birdsong research (interview) New York Times January 7 2003 CONVERSATION WITH | ERICH JARVIS A Biologist Explores the Minds of Birds That Learn to Sing By CLAUDIA DREIFUS DURHAM, N.C. - At Duke University here, Dr. Erich D. Jarvis, 37, is recognized for his groundbreaking research on the brain systems of birds. This year, he won the Alan T. Waterman Award, the National Science Foundation's $500,000 prize for young researchers. Dr. Jarvis's own life story is also widely known. He grew up in Harlem in a family riven by poverty and divorce. His father, a musician and amateur scientist, eventually succumbed to drugs, mental illness and homelessness and was killed in 1989. Still, Erich Jarvis graduated from Hunter College and went on to the Rockefeller University, where he earned his doctorate in 1995. At Duke, he said in a recent interview, he found a place with "the best facilities and the least politics" in an effort to do his research unimpeded. "This place has an atmosphere that's a researcher's dream." Q. You study the brain pathways of hummingbirds, songbirds and parrots - three very different types of birds that are song learners, as opposed to innate vocalizers. Why study them? A. These birds are among the few vocal-learning animal groups. By measuring a certain gene that is activated in their brains when they are producing their learned vocalizations, my colleague Claudio Mello of the Oregon Health and Sciences University and I have established that hummingbirds, parrots and songbirds each, separately, evolved similar brain pathways for the production of learned songs. None of these creatures are closely related to one another. These pathways are not found in more closely related birds that do not learn vocalizations. Our findings indicate that brain pathways for a complex behavior can evolve in very similar ways, multiple times. There's the possibility that human language brain pathways have also evolved in ways similar to these birds. Full text http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/07/science/life/07CONV.html ________________________________________________________________ From pamelaj at spiritone.com Fri Jan 10 08:06:58 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: McCown's chest crescent? Message-ID: <001101c2b8c2$527a2ce0$5dc263d8@sburock> I agree with Mike that the dark chest spot was not visible when we watched the bird walking & feeding on Wednesday afternoon. I'm wondering if Wink's picture doesn't show the dark, downy bases of the chest feathers exposed when the bird is grooming. It was not a windy day, and I saw only a slightly darker scaly pattern across the chest, not a dark spot or band. Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From fontaine_joe at hotmail.com Fri Jan 10 09:39:11 2003 From: fontaine_joe at hotmail.com (Joe Fontaine) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: McCown's chest crescent Message-ID: OBOLers, Pam Johnston's suggestion that the black visible on the McCown's Longspur is due to the base of the feathers being black is certainly correct! Longspurs have a cool pattern of molt called wear molt. In the fall, the body feathers are molted and over the course of the winter, the basic plumage wears away to expose the alternate plumage. Most passerines typically replace many body feathers in the spring to achieve alternate plumage. Thus we are, in fact, seeing the alternate plumage underneath the basic plumage. An interesting aspect of this is that typically lighter colors are worn away to expose darker colors. This has to do with the fact that darker feathers have more melanized, thus making them more resistant to wear (melanin strengthens feathers -e.g. dark primaries on many species). So far as I know starlings, meadowlarks, longspurs, and emberizid buntings all undergo wear molt. Good Birding, Joe ---------------- Joe Fontaine Corvallis _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From celata at pacifier.com Fri Jan 10 10:55:18 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Hammond feeder walk - 01/10/2003 Message-ID: <3E1F1715.7F68FF7C@pacifier.com> Michelle and I went to survey the feeders in the Hammond Historical District (and near by trailer park). There was a very cold east wind blowing so we only lasted about 20 mins and were not as thorough as I would have liked. The list: American Crow 6 Steller's Jay 3 Chestnut-backed Chickadee 3 Golden-crowned Kinglet 20 Ruby-crowned Kinglet 1 Bewick's Wren 2 Townsend's Warbler 1 American Robin 2 Fox Sparrow 16 Song Sparrow 2 White-crowned Sparrow 1 WHITE-THROATED SPARROW 1 Oregon Junco 54 House Sparrow 4 -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From rkorpi at hotmail.com Fri Jan 10 11:24:38 2003 From: rkorpi at hotmail.com (Ray Korpi) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: McCown's Search/Solitaire Message-ID: Hi all, I went out to the McCown's Longspur site this morning and could not locate the bird in the brief time I had to spend there (only had about half an hour). As Alan C. noted yesterday, there were several groups of larks out there--I focused my efforts on getting to the biggest group and then being very thorough in checking it. Dan van den Broek and another birder were there when I left and were checking still at 9:30--Dan said he'd post if he found the bird. Conditions were nice, and Meadowlarks were singing. At one point, all the larks in the group froze--I finally turned and saw a kestrel perched nearby. Once the kestrel left (after a minute or two), the larks resumed feeding. I think the bird is probably still there and can be found--it's the ol' Korpi jinx working again (I will be in Woodburn tomorrow--better get there today). On the other hand, the karmic birding gods rewarded me with a TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE today on the Clark Campus--my first for winter in the area and my first on campus. Ray Korpi rkorpi@hotmail.com Vancouver, WA _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From birdsong at harborside.com Fri Jan 10 11:45:12 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Weather and birds Message-ID: <3E1F22C8.9030704@harborside.com> Folks, Reading a local power company magazine/newsletter today, I came across the following, which I have my serious doubts about.... Title: Weather Forecasting By the Birds "Even the best weather forecasters are wrong 40 percent of the time. That is as good a reason as any to look to birds for predictions of oncoming changes. Here are some sure-fire, feathered forecasting techniques: * Ospreys signal a change in the weather when they fly high in a circle. Birds crowding around your window, peeking in, is a sure sign of snow. * Owls are telling you rough weather is on the way if they screech during the daytime. * Flying insect-eaters like swallows and nighthawks venture high only in the best of weather. So, if you see high-feeding birds, the good weather should hold for at least a day. Yes, your opinion of the meteorologist on TV is right ... weather forecasting is for the birds. But it's also by the birds." Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From billandnicki at attbi.com Fri Jan 10 12:25:19 2003 From: billandnicki at attbi.com (Bill and Nicki) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Vermilion Flycatcher-YES Message-ID: <001901c2b8e6$6527ef20$1177e00c@computer> OBOL, I did locate the Vermilion Flycatcher at about 10:10 Friday morning. It was near the pond just north of Hazelnut at the pull-out. When I arrived at about 9:30, Tim R. and some others said I had missed the bird by 30 minutes or so; it had moved off to the north. I walked around checking the several ponds there before finding it back where I had started. The bird the flew off quite a distance south, where it was last seen at the top of a fir behind a low flat-roofed building at the school there. Thanks for all the reports OBOL! Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030110/205f4df0/attachment.htm From greg.gillson at exgate.tek.com Fri Jan 10 12:26:51 2003 From: greg.gillson at exgate.tek.com (greg.gillson@exgate.tek.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: OBOL List-owner Message-ID: <7EDB294F3EE1744BA2AB357D5C39579802A9AACD@us-bv-m05> OBOL, I wanted to let you know that I have accepted OBOL list-owner responsibilities. However, we can (and should) have additional owners in case I am away on vacation or otherwise away from computer access for any length of time. OSU policy is that the list-owner(s) is a member of OSU. However, if we keep our list functioning, we will be allowed to keep our list with non-OSU owners. But it might be prudent to have a regular OSU staff member, or someone who is going to be at OSU for more than one year, also became a list owner. I therefore request 2 additional volunteers to act as list-owners. You should be someone with a good Internet connection and regularly (daily) read OBOL and your own e-mail. You shouldn't be away from e-mail regularly for days at a time. With 3 total owners, problems should be handled quickly. If I am reading the instructions correctly, list-owners get one e-mail message per day about the list status. List owners have a web page to access that gives them TOTAL control over the list, so the requested additional owners should know their way around list options in general and be trustworthy to not mess us all up! For instance, if I did it right, the words [OBOL] should be prepended to our messages. I would also like to limit the number of contiguous lines that can be copied when responding to a previous message. That would eliminate, for instance, the message earlier this week that was a reply to the daily digest and that included hundreds of lines. But it would also mean that you wouldn't be able to copy large sections of text in forwarding text to the list. What is a reasonable number of lines? Finally, I'd like to go down the membership list and add our personal names to more of the subscribers. Greg Gillson OBOL list owner greg@thebirdguide.com greggi@tek.com OBOL directly at OSU (Send message, read messages (including archive), change your settings: http://www.lists.oregonstate.edu/ From larmcqueen at msn.com Fri Jan 10 13:27:47 2003 From: larmcqueen at msn.com (Larry McQueen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Weather and birds References: Message-ID: <000801c2b8ef$1f992560$0200000a@newcomputer> An old name for Yellow-billed Cuckoo was "rainbird", as its call was often heard in the afternoons prior to the eventual thunderstorms. Of course when the thunderstorm didn't happen, the call of the cuckoo was forgotten. Larry McQueen > Folks, > > Reading a local power company magazine/newsletter today, I came across > the following, which I have my serious doubts about.... > > Title: Weather Forecasting By the Birds > > "Even the best weather forecasters are wrong 40 percent of the time. > That is as good a reason as any to look to birds for predictions of > oncoming changes. > > Here are some sure-fire, feathered forecasting techniques: > * Ospreys signal a change in the weather when they fly high in a circle. > Birds crowding around your window, peeking in, is a sure sign of snow. > * Owls are telling you rough weather is on the way if they screech > during the daytime. > * Flying insect-eaters like swallows and nighthawks venture high only in > the best of weather. So, if you see high-feeding birds, the good > weather should hold for at least a day. > > Yes, your opinion of the meteorologist on TV is right ... weather > forecasting is for the birds. But it's also by the birds." > > > > Dave Lauten > Bandon OR > birdsong@harborside.com > > > > > From jmrake at quik.com Fri Jan 10 14:13:40 2003 From: jmrake at quik.com (Rakestraw) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: McCown's, N. Shrike Message-ID: <3E1F4594.7C1D8CB3@quik.com> I went to see the McCown's Longspur in north Portland Friday morning, around 9:30. I got great looks at the bird when I first arrived; a very easy tick on the old life list. It is ironic that I birded Kansas for ten years, but had to move to Oregon to see my first McCown's Longspur. I guess that follows my pattern. I saw my first White-tailed Kite in Kansas and my first Varied Thrush in Ohio. Since I always feel a little guilty ticking off a staked-out bird, I went to Smith and Bybee Lakes to find some birds of my own. The best bird was a first winter NORTHEN SHRIKE along the paved path near Bybee Lake. Other highlights were a Hermit Thrush and an Orange-crowned Warbler. I found eleven species of waterfowl on Bybee Lake and lots of the common songbirds in the woods. On Bybee Lake was a pale female Northern Shoveler with a jet black bill. Cheers, John Rakestraw Portland From garbledmodwit at yahoo.com Fri Jan 10 14:38:27 2003 From: garbledmodwit at yahoo.com (Tim Rodenkirk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Go See The Vermillion Flycatcher! Message-ID: <20030110223827.93420.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> I was fortunate enough to see what I think is the prettiest bird yet I've seen in Oregon this morning (that was #400, the only other birds close to the beauty of this bird that I've seen in Oregon, in my opinion, are Scissor-tailed Flycatcher & Summer Tanager). I arrived at the Woodburn site at 8AM but the bird didn't show until 9:10AM in the pond area to the north of the pullouts on Hazelnut. This bird is STUNNINGLY beautiful. It is not the traditional all red color, in fact only it's cap is red and the rest of the underside of the bird is a neon orangish-red (at least in the bright sunlight we had this morning). Wow, what an incredibly colorful bird. This is one you can take a non-birding friend to see and watch their jaw drop when they get a look at it. Also, the golf course folks are pretty excited about this bird and would love to get a good photo of it to put in their pro-shop, I hope someone can help them out. ENJOY! Tim R Coos Bay (it was well worth the 4hr. drive!!!) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From tlove at linfield.edu Fri Jan 10 14:25:21 2003 From: tlove at linfield.edu (Thomas Love) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Vermilion Fly. - habits, access Message-ID: <2826636353.1042208721@[10.212.201.154]> (having spent a fruitless hour mid afternoon Thursday). Simply look for a knot of birders, or Paul Sullivan, hoping they're all looking in the same direction. As we observed the bird it flew off from the cattails in the south end of the pond on the left side of Hazenut, danced around the tops of houses to the south, then it flew off to the cyclone fence around the sports field. The emerging picture is that the bird is not always around the ponds, leaving for somewhere (sports field, neighborhood?) to the south, apparently regularly during the middle of the day, so working the neighborhood to the south of the GC would make sense. The main purpose in writing is to report that I spoke with the Asst. Mngr. of the Tukwila GC yesterday. He was very nice and welcomes birders. His only concern was the visiting birders take appropriate caution when golfers are hitting. I told him that we were all trying to be very careful to not create problems, to be respectful of golfers, etc. The GC is in the final stages of applying for Audubon certification, and outreach is a key element they're working on. So they're grateful for the attention actually. He will be sending me some information, which I will feed into OFO's recognition program so that appropriate steps are taken. Tom Love Secretary, Oregon Field Ornithologists tlove@linfield.edu From newhouse at efn.org Fri Jan 10 17:28:34 2003 From: newhouse at efn.org (Bruce Newhouse) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: West Nile conference Jan. 16 in Portland Message-ID: <3E1F7341.325FA898@efn.org> More on the West Nile Virus. The principles below are very worthwhile reading. The Jan. 16 workshop agenda follows. Note the registration information near the top (I know nothing about it) of the agenda. My apologies if this is repeating someone else's previous post. Bruce Newhouse in Eugene **************************************************** Statement of Principles West Nile Workshop January 16, 2003 It is expected that the West Nile Virus will arrive in Oregon sometime during the spring of 2003. The arrival of this virus demands a response that is effective, ecologically sound and proportional to the potential risks presented by the virus. We believe that the following principles are important to consider as Oregon develops a strategy to combat this virus: 1. West Nile Virus is just one of many mosquito borne diseases potentially found in the State of Oregon. Via county and district vector control programs, Oregon already has existing programs to reduce and prevent the spread of mosquito borne disease. Efforts to combat West Nile Virus ought to compliment and build upon already existing efforts. 2. We can learn much from the efficacy of attempts outside Oregon to reduce the impacts of this virus. West Nile Virus was first identified in Uganda n 1937. African, Asian and European countries have been coping with this virus for decades. It was first reported in the United States in New York in 1999. Strategies to combat the virus have ranged from intensive spraying of insecticides and reduction of mosquito habitat to simply doing nothing and allowing the virus to run its course. There are many lessons to learn and pitfalls to avoid from these assorted strategies. 3. Statewide and regional coordination of strategies and efforts is imperative. Localized response development and implementation is a recipe for ineffective and potentially conflicting strategies. 4. We need to recognize that West Nile Virus is here to stay. No efforts to date have effectively eliminated the virus. The success of efforts to combat the virus will not be measured in terms of elimination of impacts, but rather reduction of impacts. It is neither practical nor possible to completely eliminate the impacts of the virus. 5. While the virus has potentially fatal consequences when contracted by humans, the response strategy ought to be proportional to the relative risk that the virus poses to the general public. Currently the public perceives West Nile Virus as an important health threat. It is important to conduct educational outreach to place the impacts of this virus in context with the impacts of other common viruses. 6. The mosquito plays an important role in the ecosystem. While West Nile Virus has important implications for humans, domestic animals and wildlife alike, it is important not to loose sight ecological impacts of reducing mosquito populations. 7. Potential strategies for combating the virus may present significant ecological and human health risks. Great effort should be made to insure that Oregon implements strategies that protect human health posing the lowest possible risk to the health of the ecosystem. Care should be taken to ensure that the strategies that are adopted truly have a significant likelihood to lower the risk posed by the virus. It is likely that the arrival of the virus in Oregon will generate demands for the implementation of high profile strategies that have a very low likelihood of impacting the spread of the virus. Strategies implanted solely to give the appearance of ?doing something? should be avoided and concerted educational outreach should be conducted to explain why certain strategies have been adopted while others have been rejected. 8. Strategies need to be developed not only to combat the virus, but also to measure and evaluate the effectiveness of those efforts. 9. A broad educational effort must be undertaken as soon as possible to educate and reassure the general public that all practical and reasonable efforts are being made to combat the spread of the virus. This campaign should include specific information about why certain strategies have been adopted while others have been rejected. It should also contain information putting the risk from the virus into perspective and providing specific information on appropriate and inappropriate steps that the public might take to protect themselves. 10. The media has an important role to play in insuring a proportional and effective response. While the arrival of the virus in Oregon is sure to grab headlines, it is important that the media participate in the effort to place the virus in context relative to other everyday risk factors and present the public with good, science-based information and practical, effective methods by which the risk of exposure to humans and domestic animals will be minimized. **************************************************** West Nile Virus Workshop Agenda January 16, 2002 Oregon Zoo 8:00 AM-5:00 PM Beginning December 1st on line registration will be available at www.audubonportland.org or you can fax your credit card registration to Pacific Agenda at: 503-228-8681. 8:00 AM Introduction and Welcome: Introduction of Statement of Principles Bob Sallinger, Audubon Society of Portland, Tony Vecchio, Oregon Zoo 8:15-8:30 Convocation: Robert Michael Pyle, author and noted entomologist 8:30-10:15 Current Status of Oregon Preparedness for West Nile Virus: Monitoring and Response Plans ? Dr. Emilio DeBess,Oregon Health Division: State of Oregon Response Plan ? Dr. Gary Oxman, Chair of Conference of Local Health Officials: Multnomah County Response Plan Questions/ Discussion 10:15-10:30 Break 10:30-11:15 National Perspectives: Lessons Learned and Information Gaps Questions/ Discussion 11:15-11:30 Break 11:30-12:00 Veterinary Aspects of West Nile Virus: Protecting Pets and Domestic Animals ? Dr. Mitch Finnegan, Oregon Zoo ? Dr. Marli Lintner, Avian Medical Center 12:00-1:15 Lunch (included) 1:15-2:45 Panel Presentation: Ecological Impacts of West Nile Virus ? Mike Higgins, National Mosquito Coordinator, US Fish and Wildlife Service: Direct Impacts of West Nile Virus on Native Bird Species and USFWS National Policy Regarding Spraying on Refuges ? Joe Engler, Biologist, USFWS Ridgefield National Wildlife Refuge: Local Refuge Perspective ? Jim Morgan, Metro Regional Parks and Greenspaces Program: Local Land Management Concerns Questions/ Discussion 2:45-3:00 Break 3:00-4:15 Panel Presentation: Ecological Impacts of Potential West Nile Virus Control Scenarios ? Nancy Munn, Ph.D., Water Resources Policy Analyst, NOAA Fisheries, Oregon Habitat Branch: Impacts on Fish and Water Quality ? Mace Vaughn, The Xerxes Society: Impacts on Non-target Species ? Caroline Cox, Northwest Coalition for Alternatives to Pesticides: Efficacy of Pesticide Use As a Viable Control Mechanism ? US Geological Survey: Short and Long-term Ecosystem Impacts of Potential Control Scenarios Questions/ Discussion 4:15-500 Questions, Wrap-up, Next Steps ? Moderated by Mike Houck, Urban Naturalist, Audubon Society of Portland A program agenda and meeting location information will be mailed/emailed to all registrants prior to the meeting. Questions: Registration questions: Terri Moore at Pacific Agenda, 503-223-8633 or email: tmoore@europa.com. 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Birders in Corvallis and Linn & Benton counties may be particularly interested in helping to develop the bird list for this new unit of the refuge. Contact Clair Fiegener at the Greenbelt Land Trust for more information (contact information below). Mary Anne Sohlstrom President, Oregon Field Ornithologists ------------------- Hello, You are receiving this email from the Greenbelt Land Trust in Corvallis because we think you and your group might be interested in participating in a project with us. The Greenbelt Land Trust is a non-profit that works in partnership with landowners to preserve farmlands, forests, wetlands and scenic hillsides. We are excited to be working in partnership with US Fish and Wildlife Service to help them prepare their new refuge property, Snag Boat Bend, on the Willamette River (located in Linn Co.) for public access. Snag Boat Bend is a Unit of William L. Finley National Wildlife Refuge. The grand opening for this property will be held on Migratory Bird Day on May 10, 2003. The Greenbelt Land Trust is looking for volunteers to help with plant cuttings, trail building, plantings, construction projects, photography, and compiling of a bird list. These activities will be taking place from mid-January through April 2003. Below you will find a detailed list of Snag Boat Bend Opening Preparation activities and timeline. In this detail you will notice that we listed potential participants that we thought would fit with the different activities. We are also very interested in getting people from Linn County involved in this project, so if you know of individuals or other groups that might be interested in participating please send them our way. Workdays are somewhat flexible within the set time frame, weekdays and weekends are possible. If you are interested in finding out more information or would like to volunteer you and/or your group please contact myself, Claire Fiegener, at the Greenbelt Land Trust. Claire Fiegener Outreach Coordinator PO Box 1721 Corvallis, OR 97339 541-752-9609 claire@greenbeltlandtrust.org Thank you, Claire Fiegener Snag Boat Bend Opening Preparation Activities Bird List * Lists of birds present at refuge * Participants: Audubon Society, Oregon Birders, OSU wildlife group * Schedule as interested * Supervision needs- Not needed- Except individual(s) going to site will need a Special Use Permit. (Contact Clair Fiegener for details). Plant cuttings * January 13 - Feb. 1 * Collect willow, dogwood, and cottonwood cuttings from on-site and other areas to be used for later riparian plantings * Participants: 4-H Wildlife Stewards, Native Plant Society, Master Gardeners * 2 Four hour shifts (Equals a total of 16 hours for this activity) * Two workdays * Supervision needs- F&WS will provide direct oversight and on ground supervision depending on volunteer group. Trail Development * Create trails in refuge for Migratory Bird Day, concentrating on areas near parking lot and islands. Tasks include mowing, tree removal along trail, blackberry removal, leveling and grading, laying fabric for grit or bark. Lake Creek Trail * January 13 - February 15 * This trail follows current grass road along eastern edge of field. It continues to planned observation blind area and over to the island which is wet during winter season and therefore, a boardwalk is necessary. * Participants: Sierra Club, Greenbelt Land Trust members, OSU Wildlife Society, OSU Environmental Task Force, Corvallis High0 School, Albany high schools, RSVP, Benton SWCD, Calapooia Watershed Council, HP * 2 Four hour shifts (Equals a total of 32-40 hours for this activity) * Four to five workdays * Supervision needs- F&WS will provide direct oversight and on ground supervision depending on volunteer group. River Trail * February to April * This trail goes through gallery cottonwood forest and continues to Willamette River, going by a great Blue Heron rookery . * Participants: Sierra Club, Greenbelt Land Trust members, OSU Wildlife Society, OSU Environmental Task Force, Corvallis High School, Albany high schools, RSVP, Benton SWCD, Calapooia Watershed Council, HP * 2 Four hour shifts (Equals a total of 32-40 hours for this activity) * Four to five workdays * Supervision needs- F&WS will provide direct oversight and on ground supervision depending on volunteer group. Plantings * February 1- March 15 * Plant cuttings, plugs, potted plants and shrubs in riparian and wetland areas * Participants: Boys & Girl Club, OSU groups, 4-H Wildlife Stewards, Patricia Benner, Community Service high school groups, Benton SWCD, Calapooia Watershed Council, SOLV, Greenbelt Land Trust members * 2 Four hour shifts (Equals a total of 32-40 hours for this activity) * Four to five workdays * Supervision needs- F&WS will provide direct oversight and on ground supervision depending on volunteer group. *** USFWS complete planting schedule and plan by January 24 *** Construction Projects * February 1 - April 15 * Construction projects such as the observation blind, stairs to dike, parking lot fence, kiosk, sign frames (interpretive, trail and entrance), and boardwalk. * Participants: Boy Scouts, RSVP, Greenbelt Land Trust members, local woodworkers' guild * Construction done on- and off-site * 2 Four hour shifts (Equals a total of 64-80 hours for this activity) * 8-10 Workdays * Supervision needs- F&WS will provide direct oversight and on ground supervision depending on volunteer group. **Work groups should be small (approx. 5 people) for these projects. Photography * Professional quality photographs of the refuge & of volunteer workdays. * Schedule as interested * Supervision needs- Not needed- Except individual(s) going to site will need a Special Use Permit. Final Prep./ Clean up * April to May * Projects needed near opening day * Participants: REI members, OSU interns * Supervision-USFWS personnel should be present Opening Day * Volunteers to assist in making event run well. * Participants: Claire Fiegener Outreach Coordinator Greenbelt Land Trust PO Box 1721 Corvallis, OR 97339 (541) 752-9609 www.greenbeltlandtrust.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030110/19b6ff64/attachment.htm From crmiller at bendnet.com Fri Jan 10 17:36:35 2003 From: crmiller at bendnet.com (Craig Miller) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Lake Billy Chinook Message-ID: <003b01c2b911$e1d4d6c0$c024a3ce@craigmil> today with Robert M., wildlife biologist for PG&E. It was a brisk 23 degrees all day. We started at 7:30 on the lake and went up all three arms, Deschutes River, Metolius River and the Crooked River. Then from 1:30 to 3:00 p.m. we surveyed by truck. It was fun accessing all those previously un-accessible spots! (No public admitted in most of the areas we surveyed today) It was my "job" to count the Canada Geese. I was pleasantly surprised to learn how many Lessers are seen by Robert. The highlight of the day was the beautiful female LONG TAILED DUCK, kind of near the Pelton Dam Overlook. The majority of the species seen today were BUFFLEHEAD and COMMON MERGANSERS. Other species included Tundra Swans Clark's Grebe Western Grebe Horned Grebe Hooded Merganser Barrows Goldeneye Common Goldeneye Ring-necked Duck Ruddy Duck Green winged Teal Mallard American Wigeon DC Cormorants Bald Eagles Golden Eagles Cooper's Hawk Red-tailed Hawks Ring billed Gulls Magpies A Robin Chipping Sparrows DE Juncos Marsh Wren Song Sparrow White crowned Sparrow Ravens etc. It was fun wearing the survival suit on the boat and hanging out with someone so knowledgeable about the birds in the area. Surveys have taken place for years on the lake. Marilyn From oschmidt at att.net Fri Jan 10 18:43:08 2003 From: oschmidt at att.net (Owen Schmidt) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Baltimore Oriole 1/10/03 Message-ID: OBOL -- I videotaped the Baltimore Oriole today at Florence in the already-described location. The bird showed up at the appointed time, about 8:20 am, for about 10 minutes. Then came back at around 9:30 am for another 10 minutes or so. I have the name and address of the very accommodating homeowners, and I will mail them a copy of the tape. If anyone from OFO reads this, and would like their name and address to reward them officially for their assistance to birders -- please contact me directly. Thanks. oschmidt@att.net Friday, January 10, 2003 From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 10 19:19:49 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Linn County - Raptor Run #6 Message-ID: <20030111031949.96790.qmail@web20803.mail.yahoo.com> Obolers, I completed my sixth run of the winter today under much better weather conditions than two days ago when fog hindered efforts for awhile. Today was clear skies, some high level scattered clouds, little to no wind, and temperatures around 45 degrees. I started the run at 10:55 and finished at 4:55, 6 hours total. I traveled 150.5 miles. I censused Unit 3 today. This area is bounded on the north by Hwy 34, on the west by Peoria Rd and the Willamette River, on the south by Hwy 228, and on the east by Sand Ridge Rd/Brownsville Rd. Unit 3 sits just south of Unit 2 which I ran two days ago. As you will see from the chart below, I saw a whole bunch more birds today than when I last ran Unit 3 back on December 12, 2002. The numbers in ( ) are from the 12/12 census. Best birds of the day were the TWO BURROWING OWLS that were located at the intersection of County Rd 2ll and Blueberry Rd. One of the owls (as previously reported by Sylvia Maulding back in December) had a red band on its left leg and a FWS silver band on its right leg. Today I was able to read the red bands number and will forward the information to the probable researcher that Alan Contreras provided information on. This particular bird was using the culvert on Rd 211 just west of the intersection and the other bird was at the culvert just north of the intersection. When the second bird flushed from its culvert it flew directly south to the other occupied culvert. These birds are so cute and their eyes are so brilliant yellow!! Following is the "take" for today - Red-tailed Hawk 45 (16) American Kestrel 74 (53) Northern Harrier 6 ( 4) Bald Eagle 5 - Rough-legged Hawk 2 ( 1) Cooper's Hawk 1 - Sharp-shinned Hawk 1 - Prairie Falcon - ( 1) Burrowing Owl 2 ( 1) Looking forward to another run early next week :) Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From greg at thebirdguide.com Fri Jan 10 19:41:48 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (Greg Gillson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Need Vermilion (any) photo Message-ID: <001a01c2b923$62ed2da0$e1b2efd8@guide> The Statesman Journal in Salem has asked for ANY photo of Vermilion Flycatcher they can use in the paper. Contact Roy (last name sounds like Gollum on my phone message) at 503-399-6723. This would be good PR. Greg Gillson Cornelius, Oregon greg@thebirdguide.com http://thebirdguide.com From jgeier at attglobal.net Sat Jan 11 04:18:58 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Need Vermilion (any) photo Message-ID: <3E200BB2.445F264B@attglobal.net> > The Statesman Journal in Salem has asked for ANY photo of Vermilion > Flycatcher they can use in the paper. The SJ reporter for birding coverage is Roy Gault, 503-399-6723. -- Joel Geier jgier@attglobal.net From WeberHome at att.net Sat Jan 11 07:37:46 2003 From: WeberHome at att.net (Cliff & Joanne) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Judy Stone-Roth et al Message-ID: OBOL; Hello! There are lots of helpful FAQ's for those interested in digiscoping at this web site. http://birdpix.com/ Cliff & Joanne Beaverton From fschrock at macnet.com Sat Jan 11 11:46:23 2003 From: fschrock at macnet.com (Floyd Schrock) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Vermilion Flycatcher - Sat. a.m. Message-ID: <000801c2b9aa$1f6225e0$9c4efea9@onlinemac.com> For any who still have not, but are thinking of chasing it... The VERMILION FLYCATCHER at Woodburn was being watched by many birder's (and future birders) in late morning today, 1-11-03. ===================== Floyd Schrock McMinnville, Oregon USA fschrock@macnet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030111/ebffdf4f/attachment.htm From nancywallwork at attbi.com Sat Jan 11 13:35:46 2003 From: nancywallwork at attbi.com (Nancy) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: White-throated Sparrow Message-ID: Is still present at the Environmental Learning Center at Clackamas Community College (located today at 11:45). Also, among the huge flock of Juncos, there is a beautiful Slate-colored Junco worth looking at. Nancy W. -- Greg & Nancy Wallwork Oregon City, OR 97045 From pamelaj at spiritone.com Sat Jan 11 14:03:39 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: W-t Sparrows, Fernhill, Wash. Co Message-ID: <000b01c2b9bd$4e4caac0$83db63d8@sburock> This morning Mahesh Ketkar and I found a cluster of White-throated Sparrows at Fernhill Wetlands. We were at the east end of the dike between Eagle Perch Pond and the cattail marsh when they started popping up, with up to 3 in sight at once. I would guess there were at least 5 present. I got a glimpse of a Lincoln's, and we saw several Golden-crowned and Song as well. Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From tjanzen at attbi.com Sat Jan 11 14:57:15 2003 From: tjanzen at attbi.com (Tim Janzen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur update Message-ID: Dear all, The McCown's Longspur continues to be seen in north Portland in the field along Marine Dr. as of earlier this afternoon. Multiple people saw it. It was usually seen in the sandy area in the eastern portion of the field with the large flock of Horned Larks it has been hanging out with. Sincerely, Tim Janzen Portland From baileydc at pdx.edu Sat Jan 11 15:14:25 2003 From: baileydc at pdx.edu (David C. Bailey) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Urban Screech-Owls in Portland Message-ID: <002501c2b9c7$5c242ba0$f680fea9@suzanna> Obolonians, My wife Suzanna and I took a walk through the neighborhood last evening (Friday 10 Jan 2002) and as we passed through US Grant Park (NE 33rd and Brazee) I thought I heard a Sreech-Owl hoot series. I paused and hooted back. To our delight a pair of WESTERN SCREECH-OWLS began a duet from the lower half of a ceder tree which was about 50 meters or so south of the north edge of the park off of 35th place (if I remembered correctly). The owls chased each other around the tree in the few minutes that we paused there. Grant park is mostly grass and tall trees with zero understory, and the trees (Doug Firs mostly) are not that numerous. The area is surrounded by houses. I would guess that the owls are surviving on house mice (Mus musculus) that are probably quite common in the park, especially with the high school there and all the food scraps that produces, but who knows? I have never detected Screech-Owls in NE Portland before, though I haven't tried much. I know that in the Eastern part of the country, Screech-Owls are failry common in developed urban areas. Anyway, a nice natural history moment on our walk. Also at the park were three embarressed high school aged men engaging in some sort of oxidation experiment involving a fragent herb....We said "howdy" and continued on.... David David C. Bailey baileydc@pdx.edu Portland, OR From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 11 15:23:19 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Linn County banded Burrowing Owl Message-ID: <20030111232319.38185.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com> Obolers, I wanted to pass along some information that I received today from the researcher who is responsible for banding the BURROWING OWL that I saw yesterday and that has been wintering west of Halsey on Blueberry Rd. The band was first noticed by Sylvia Maulding last month. After her posting to OBOL, Al Contreras posted the email address of the person who he thought might be involved in the banding. I was able to read the band number yesterday and wrote to the researcher last night. The bird was banded last summer near Pasco, Washington by Dr. Courtney Conway as part of her ongoing study of these owls in that area. The birds left leg is banded with a red band with white letters reading "W9" and the right leg has a standard issue Fish and Wildlife Service aluminum band. It was banded as an adult female and it in fact raised a set of young ones before dispersing from the nesting area by mid July. She speculates that this bird could be one of the birds that we have been seeing here in Linn County at the Blueberry Rd/County Rd 211 site the last few winters. She is excited to know where her bird is wintering and equally anxious to see if it in fact will return to her study area to breed again this coming summer. To help her research efforts, I was hoping that if anyone sees this bird during late winter and early spring at the site, please let me know and I will forward the information on to Dr. Conway. She is hoping to document when the bird leaves our area this spring and then how long it takes to return to the nesting area. Thank you Alan for posting Dr. Conways email address so that I could contact her. She is a happy researcher! Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 11 15:30:48 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Lesser Goldfinches - Albany Message-ID: <20030111233048.39080.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com> Obolers, About 2 hours ago I looked out my window at my thistle feeders and a tree right next to the feeders and counted a total of 44 LESSER GOLDFINCHES!! That is a new record for my daily feeder counts :) Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From roygerig at hotmail.com Sat Jan 11 16:10:53 2003 From: roygerig at hotmail.com (Roy Gerig) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Polk Swamp Sparrow 1/11 Message-ID: A SWAMP SPARROW was at the Luckiamute Landing this morning (SE Polk County) near the very large Black Cottonwood tree that stands alone in a Himalaya Blackberry bush near the far end of the large fescue field from the parking area on the east side near the Willamette River bank. It was with a pure flock of about 50 SONG SPARROWs. I didn't bird much as it was mostly a dog exercise trip, but did also see one WHITE-THROATED SPARROW over on the other (west) side of the field, and 24 or 25 LESSER GOLDFINCHES in the river tansy which I can never remember the Latin name of and I don't know if that is a good common name for it either. Roy Gerig, Salem OR _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From surfbird at harborside.com Sat Jan 11 16:21:06 2003 From: surfbird at harborside.com (Diane Pettey) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Lane County Coast Sightings 1/11/03 Message-ID: <3E20B4F2.500824F4@harborside.com> This morning, Bob Stites and I birded the Florence area. Highlights: Baltimore Oriole (continues to be seen although folks had to wait an hour) Greater Yellowlegs (15 or more, South Slough off Canary Rd.) Common Snipe (over 20, same area) Red-necked Grebe (two, in Siuslaw River near jetties) Horned Grebe (at least one, same area) Long-tailed Duck (male, snoozing w/scoters in cove just north of crab dock, S. Jetty Rd.) Surfbirds (easily 75 - north and south jetty rocks, outgoing tide) Black Turnstones (over 50, same area) regards, Diane Pettey Florence, OR surfbird@harborside.com From Irons5 at aol.com Sat Jan 11 17:05:53 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: OBOL Re: McCown's Longspur YES Sat. AM Message-ID: <8.329d4310.2b521971@aol.com> A swarm of about 35 birders had repeated views of the MC COWN'S LONGSPUR this morning between 10:00 and 12:00. The bird was at the far side of the field near what is being referred to as "Diamond Head" (The large dirt pile shaped like Diamond Head in Hawaii). A large flock of Horned Larks (including the longspur) tended to hang along the tire ruts running N-S? out about 50 yards fromt the dirt pile and the black plastic sediment fence. The longspur was often the least active bird in the flock, disappearing for several minutes at a time behind small weeds or down in a depression. Aligning yourself so you can look down the tire ruts is a helpful strategy for seeing this bird well. Also take lots of friend to help sift through the larks. I have to agree with Jeff Gilligan, the assemblage of Horned Larks surpasses my life total several fold. Good luck, Smilin (two lifers/two state birds) Dave Irons From fschrock at macnet.com Sat Jan 11 17:20:27 2003 From: fschrock at macnet.com (Floyd Schrock) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Probable Ross's Goose, Yamhill Co. Message-ID: <000801c2b9d8$c9f44aa0$9c4efea9@onlinemac.com> This afternoon (1-11-03) I searched through a large flock of Canada Geese (hoping in vain for a Bean Goose) three miles south of Dayton along Hwy. 221. But I did have a distant view of what I believe is a ROSS'S GOOSE (rounded head, small bill without a "grin" patch that I could see.) The bird has a useless right leg that protrudes above the tail in flight. My apologies if this bird was reported earlier while I was offline fighting a computer virus. ===================== Floyd Schrock McMinnville, Oregon USA fschrock@macnet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030111/6ceccfca/attachment.htm From linda at fink.com Sat Jan 11 17:25:49 2003 From: linda at fink.com (Linda Fink) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: birds and weather Message-ID: When the weather is good, insects fly high and therefore so do swallows. When it's about to rain (low pressure system), insects fly low ergo so do swallows. I also check what the weather is going to do by watching the smoke from our chimney (we burn wood.) If it goes straight up, good weather will hold. If it curls down to the ground, bad weather coming. Of course, when the swallows see me mowing on the tractor, they swoop down no matter how good the weather because there are more insects being thrown up out of the field by the tractor than are flying high. Birds know where the food supply is. They have to. Linda Fink linda@fink.com http://www.fink.com/linda/goatlane/ From acontrer at mindspring.com Sat Jan 11 17:26:38 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Eugene birds Message-ID: I spent the afternoon birding around Eugene with Chris and Kristie Butler. We could not find the Stewart Pond Palm Warbler in about an hour of looking. One male Eurwig was with the ducks there. Lincoln's Sparrows were everywhere and several Fox Sparrows were singing, as was a Bewick's Wren. We saw about 5 G Yellowlegs along Royal Avenue in a wet mudfield just east of Meadowlark Prairie wetlands (Royal and Greenhill). No Ruffs. The wetlands area contained a good variety of dux but no shorebirds at all. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From dondewitt at hotmail.com Sat Jan 11 17:32:24 2003 From: dondewitt at hotmail.com (Don DeWitt) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: I-5 Raptor count Message-ID: OBOL, Returning to Eugene this afternoon, Jan. 11, from our run up to see the VERMILION FLYCATCHER and the McCOWN'S LONGSPUR, Dan Heyerly, Kit Larsen, Dave Irons and I decided we would count raptors visible along 1-5 starting at the 45th Parallel marker, near Salem. In the approx. 66 miles until we exited onto Hwy 126, we counted 54 raptors. RED-TAILED HAWK 46 Hawk (sp.) 1 KESTREL 6 Falcon (sp.) 1 Particularly south from Hwy 234 at Albany, the birds came along at a rate of close to 1 per mile, (more quickly, it seemed, than did points for one team engaged in the basketball game we were listening to on the radio.) Don DeWitt _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From celata at pacifier.com Sat Jan 11 18:02:46 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: more Clatsop Feeder counts Message-ID: <3E20CCA6.DBDD8AF2@pacifier.com> I spent most of the morning peering into peoples backyards in Hammond and Warrenton this morning.... I found no fewer than 20 bird feeders, but very few birds. I found no zonos (even in the OREGON JUNCO flock with the WTSP seen yesterday). But then again negative data is still data... I did find plenty of RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS, HOUSE SPARROWS and surprise ROUGH-LEGGED HAWK cruising over the Alder Creek Trailer Court. Is it just me or are there more dark-phase Rough-legs around this year than usual? -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From 5hats at peak.org Sat Jan 11 18:21:03 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: sparrows; wren question Message-ID: <00e201c2b9e1$6a534f20$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> Obol, First the question: I was in Lewiston, Idaho on Friday, and heard, although did not see, a Bewick's Wren. I know they have been rapidly spreading east up the Columbia, but does anyone know if they are established yet in Idaho? Maybe they are already a trash bird there, but if not, maybe someone needs to be informed??? Sparrows. On the way home today I stopped in at Willow Cove in Gilliam County. The weather was more like the first part of April than the first part of January. Unbelievable! And the sparrows seem to have responded to the mild winter by not bothering to go south. The bushes and trees south of the main bocy of water were loaded with hundreds of Song, White-crowned, and Golden-crowned Sparrows. I also saw two Fox Sparrows, probably a hundred Dark-eyed Juncoes, and a couple dozen Spotted Towhees. All these seemed to be in very much higher numbers than I am used to finding in eastern Oregon in the winter. Unfortunately I was unable to come up with any Swamp, White-throated. Tree, or Harris's Sparrows. Darrel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If they are anything like Carolina Wrens in the Midwest, one good cold winter will set their advancement back a decade or so. Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From GODWIT at worldnet.att.net Sat Jan 11 19:19:29 2003 From: GODWIT at worldnet.att.net (Ruth Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Probable Ross's Goose, Yamhill Co. References: Message-ID: <011c01c2b9e9$6bd847d0$8789520c@S0028818846> HelloFloyd and Oboler, I read what you saying looking maybe for the Bean Goose.That is a good idea since this bird disappeared after the evening of the 17th od Dezember around 3.45 PM when i saw the bird on K-Street with 7 Dusky Canada.As i leaving a man dressed in hunting gear came over the rail Road tracks,ask me if the Bean Goose was still there.I had a bad feeling after i left.Birders mention when the Bean Goose leaves the Airport he is fair game.We intended today again searching but the bridge over the Hoquim river was close and there was a detour what slow the traffic.The weather also was bad to walk along the Airport. Ruth Sullivan Tacoma ----- Original Message ----- From: Floyd Schrock To: Obol Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: [obol] Probable Ross's Goose, Yamhill Co. This afternoon (1-11-03) I searched through a large flock of Canada Geese (hoping in vain for a Bean Goose) three miles south of Dayton along Hwy. 221. But I did have a distant view of what I believe is a ROSS'S GOOSE (rounded head, small bill without a "grin" patch that I could see.) The bird has a useless right leg that protrudes above the tail in flight. My apologies if this bird was reported earlier while I was offline fighting a computer virus. ===================== Floyd Schrock McMinnville, Oregon USA fschrock@macnet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We tried a brief walk at Smith and Bybee Lakes before repairing back to shelter, and lucked into the previously-reported immature NORTHERN SHRIKE haunting the woods along the paved section of the main trail. It appeared to be hunting kinglets or bushtits that were flocking in the area. Mark Miller Vancouver, WA snowyowl98683@msn.com From 16fretti at attbi.com Sat Jan 11 20:09:41 2003 From: 16fretti at attbi.com (Carla Almaraz) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Bewick's Wren Message-ID: <000c01c2b9f0$6e9d7e20$69fbe00c@attbi.com> When I lived in the Clarkston area 10 years ago, I routinely saw Bewick's Wrens in the canyons near Asotin. I don't believe either National Geographic or Sibley's shows them in the area, but it is common knowledge among the locals that they are there. -Carla -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Owen Schmidt, Jim Johsnon, and I spent Saturday (almost entirely in the car as it rained without interuption) looking for the missing Washington Bean Goose in Tillamook and Washinton Counties. We concentrated on the lower Nestucca Valley, areas near the City of Tillamook, Nehalem Meadows, and the Dilley area of Washington Co. We only saw Canada Geese, but I have to admit they are interesting when you really look at all of the races we have here in winter. Individual White-tailed Kites were near Cloverdale and Woods, in Tillamook Co. From bigrocketman3 at webtv.net Sat Jan 11 16:26:43 2003 From: bigrocketman3 at webtv.net (Steve McDonald) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Burrowing Owl Research Message-ID: <3236-3E20B643-2802@storefull-2113.public.lawson.webtv.net> It's great that we can see some mutually rewarding benefits for both researchers and ourselves, from observations of marked birds that have seasonal shifts in their territories. This connection will undoubtedly inspire a lot more effort to locate these wintering owls in our region and read band numbers. Unless by coincidence, there are two Courtney Conways that are focused on Burrowing Owl studies, this person is a guy and is an assistant professor at the Univ. of Arizona. His E-Mail address is: cconway@ag.arizona.edu Steve McDonald From stukar at teleport.com Sun Jan 12 07:24:55 2003 From: stukar at teleport.com (Karen & Stuart Sparkman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Streaked Horned Lark comments and questions Message-ID: <000d01c2ba4e$c51fb480$9b101ad8@k1o8q2> OBOL, I don't know how many birders out there are aware that the Streaked Horned Lark (Eremophila alpestris strigata)is a candidate for listing under the Endangered Species Act. This is the subspecies that breeds here in the Willamette Valley, as well as in western Washington. It is pictured in Sibley as "Pacific Northwest." Adult males have bright reddish coloring on the back and bright yellow on the face, with a yellow wash and dark streaks below the chest band. I do not know if it is possible to distinguish females from other subspecies in the field. Everyone looking through the large flock at the McCown's Longspur site has been looking at Streaked Horned Larks. I am not sure how large this flock is, because I don't think I ever saw them all together; does anyone have an estimate of the size? There has also been a large flock along Livermore Rd. in Polk Co. this winter; around 150 birds there I think. I believe the Willamette Valley breeding population is estimated to be around 400 birds, so these 2 sites could include most of the population, although some birds may move south from Washington. Are there other places in the Willamette Valley where large flocks of larks are being seen? How about Linn Co,? Are Streaked Horned Larks being seen anywhere else, like along the coast, or in western Washington? Livermore Rd. is at the center of a fairly large breeding population of Horned Larks, and they are found here every winter. Are there other areas where they are found some years but not this year, or are they always found in the same traditional locations? I know this is not a very scientific way to estimate the population, but it would be interesting to identify winter concentration areas. It seems topical, and I hope people will appreciate what they are looking at as they search for the McCown's! If people reply directly to me, I can summarize the results and post them to OBOL. Karen Sparkman Salem stukar@teleport.com From celata at pacifier.com Sun Jan 12 08:27:32 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Streaked Horned Lark comments and questions References: Message-ID: <3E21976E.23C2EE2@pacifier.com> Streaked Horned Larks are actually fairly easy to find along the Columbia River on dredge spoils. The Wahkiakum CBC records Horned Larks only on those years when they can get boats out to the islands. One might even hypothesize that given the storm pushed height of the Columbia River this year they may be concentrating sites off dredge spoil island. The Oregon Bird General Reference account of Horned Lark is at: http://osu.orst.edu/pubs/birds/bogr/swal.htm Karen & Stuart Sparkman wrote: > > OBOL, > > I don't know how many birders out there are aware that the Streaked Horned > Lark (Eremophila alpestris strigata)is a candidate for listing under the > Endangered Species Act. This is the subspecies that breeds here in the > Willamette Valley, as well as in western Washington. It is pictured in > Sibley as "Pacific Northwest." Adult males have bright reddish coloring on > the back and bright yellow on the face, with a yellow wash and dark streaks > below the chest band. I do not know if it is possible to distinguish females > from other subspecies in the field. -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From pamelaj at spiritone.com Sun Jan 12 08:51:18 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: seeking photo of Portland Blue Jay Message-ID: <002901c2ba5a$d5bc36e0$f4c563d8@sburock> If you took a photo of the Blue Jay at Springtree Apts. or from the yard of the hostess, Ms. Mayhew, please contact me. On behalf of OFO, I want to thank her with a certificate, and would like to accompany it with a picture of 'her' bird, not just any old Blue Jay. Please contact me off-list: pamelaj@spiritone.com In the future, when you know of other candidates for thanks, people who are generous in allowing birders onto their property, please get their names and addresses so I can follow through. Thanks for helping thank these people! Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From pamelaj at spiritone.com Sun Jan 12 08:58:54 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Ptld. Streaked Horned Larks Message-ID: <003d01c2ba5b$e73389e0$f4c563d8@sburock> Mike may not be aware that the Horned Larks that the Longspur has taken up with are on dredge spoils that the Port of Portland has had dumped on the site, so this soil is very much like the islands in the Columbia he mentioned. His storm hypothesis makes a lot of sense. So what do Larks find on these seemingly empty, sandy, silty places? Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From polktice at juno.com Sat Jan 11 14:35:15 2003 From: polktice at juno.com (William A Tice) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Bobwhite Question Message-ID: <20030112.091533.-4030779.0.Polktice@juno.com> Obol, Can anyone tell me if the Northern Bobwhite still exists as a wild bird here in Oregon? If so, where? Thanks Bill ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From acontrer at mindspring.com Sun Jan 12 09:30:55 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Bobwhite Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bill et al., as far as I know, the only potential for "wild" Bobwhite in Oregon is around Ontario and Nyssa, maybe Vale. They were introduced there many decades ago and were present when I lived there in 1969-70. I have NOT seen or heard any in recent trips over there. I suspect that clean farming has pretty much cleared them out of the area between Ontario and Vale, but they might conceivably still exist south of Nyssa around Adrian, where there are more hedgerows, or west of Vale. Lady Marple of the Vale, can you enlighten us? I think the Umatilla Co. population is gone, but perhaps Craig Corder or Mike Denny can add a comment. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From quack at teleport.com Sun Jan 12 09:47:57 2003 From: quack at teleport.com (Roy W. Lowe) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Bobwhite Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wild bobwhites occur in the Nestucca Bay / Neskowin area. The size of this introduced population is unknown. Roy Lowe > From: William A Tice > Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:35:15 -0800 > To: "Obol" > Subject: [obol] Bobwhite Question > > Obol, > Can anyone tell me if the Northern Bobwhite still exists as a wild bird > here in Oregon? If so, where? Thanks > > Bill > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > From Irons5 at aol.com Sun Jan 12 09:59:34 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: OBOL Re: Streaked Horned Lark comments Message-ID: <176.149445dc.2b530706@aol.com> When I was up for the longspur yesterday, I estimated the number of Horned Larks present to be between 250 and 300 birds. There seemed to be two flocks about equal in size. Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From acontrer at mindspring.com Sun Jan 12 10:06:08 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: lark numbers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That's far more than we saw. They must move in and out of that general area. We saw maybe 80-100 birds split into three loose clusters. Those who went along can correct my impression if needed. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon > From: Irons5@aol.com > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:59:34 EST > To: "Obol" > Subject: [obol] OBOL Re: Streaked Horned Lark comments > > When I was up for the longspur yesterday, I estimated the number of Horned > Larks present to be between 250 and 300 birds. There seemed to be two flocks > about equal in size. > > Dave Irons > irons5@aol.com > Eugene, OR > From tweel at tillanet.com Sun Jan 12 11:04:57 2003 From: tweel at tillanet.com (Margaret) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Free Bird Game Message-ID: <000b01c2ba6d$9d7d9590$7dcfa2cd@Tweelinckx> For those of you that like games I got a Bird Watcher disc with my Swarovski scope. Just insert in CD-ROM DRIVE. Free except for mailing or pick up at my house soon when birding in Tillamook area. Later I'll have a group of bird magazines to give also. Just contact me at tweel@tillanet.com Marg Tweelinckx From acontrer at mindspring.com Sun Jan 12 11:54:55 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: FW: Bobwhite Question In-Reply-To: <005201c2ba67$4b7dab00$ea0b7144@BLACKBIRD> Message-ID: From khs at teleport.com Sun Jan 12 11:08:35 2003 From: khs at teleport.com (Karen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Sunday - Vermillion Flycatcher - yes Message-ID: <003701c2ba6e$02caa8c0$1402a8c0@qwest.net> This morning a group of birders watched as the flycatcher put on quite a show. Perching on the tallest cattail next to the pond, it repeatedly dove for insects. I almost wish someone would capture and return him to some southern and warm location. Karen Sharples Portland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030112/d2b2f9b9/attachment.htm From ilenesamowitz at attbi.com Sun Jan 12 12:23:51 2003 From: ilenesamowitz at attbi.com (Ilene Samowitz) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: RFI: Atlantic Puffins Message-ID: <002f01c2ba78$888821e0$c9c2e40c@c167584a> Tweets and obol, My partner, Dee and I are starting to seriously collect and research information to help us plan a trip is June or July to bird Maine and possibly the Bay of Fundy or Nova Scotia. Our target species will be Atlantic puffins. I haven't done enough research yet to add anything else to the list. Any help that anyone can give us would be highly appreciated. I would be happy to forward any private email replies to others if they want to get that info as well. Thanks in advance, *********************************** Ilene Samowitz Seattle, WA Rockaway Beach, OR *********************************** From rrogers at olypen.com Sun Jan 12 13:50:48 2003 From: rrogers at olypen.com (Russell Rogers) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Streaked Horned Lark: a word of caution References: Message-ID: <3E21E338.9080004@olypen.com> Hi OBOL, I studied Streaked Horned Larks in Washington for a number of years, including my masters thesis and can add some comments on Streaked Horned Lark naturally history. The exact wintering range of the Streaked Horned Lark (Eremophila alpestris strigata) is not clearly understood. It is my opinion (e.g. best guess) that in most years, they contract into the southern part of their breeding range in Winter. That said, there are winter specimens from Washington and at least three specimens from California. I stress the use of specimens here because the field identification of Horned Larks is exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, especially in winter. In my experience, only the best marked male strigata's can be safely identified in the field. Females, immatures and many males must be called unknown...and strigata is the probably the best marked race of Horned Lark. I have looked at hundreds of specimens and could only safely place a very small percentage of birds into strigata based on field marks alone, even on the breeding grounds. And, as much as I like the Sibley guide, it does very little in the way of field identification of lark races. The reason that I make this point is that estimating numbers of strigata on wintering grounds would be impossible because it is not the only race here in winter; E. a. arcticola, E. a. alpina, and E. a. merrilli/lamprochroma are know or suspected to winter in western WA and OR. The only way to safely say that a bird belong to a certain race would be if it were color marked as such on the breeding ground. Happy larking! Russell Karen & Stuart Sparkman wrote: >OBOL, > >I don't know how many birders out there are aware that the Streaked Horned >Lark (Eremophila alpestris strigata)is a candidate for listing under the >Endangered Species Act. This is the subspecies that breeds here in the >Willamette Valley, as well as in western Washington. It is pictured in >Sibley as "Pacific Northwest." Adult males have bright reddish coloring on >the back and bright yellow on the face, with a yellow wash and dark streaks >below the chest band. I do not know if it is possible to distinguish females >from other subspecies in the field. >Everyone looking through the large flock at the McCown's Longspur site has >been looking at Streaked Horned Larks. I am not sure how large this flock >is, because I don't think I ever saw them all together; does anyone have an >estimate of the size? There has also been a large flock along Livermore Rd. >in Polk Co. this winter; around 150 birds there I think. I believe the >Willamette Valley breeding population is estimated to be around 400 birds, >so these 2 sites could include most of the population, although some birds >may move south from Washington. Are there other places in the Willamette >Valley where large flocks of larks are being seen? How about Linn Co,? Are >Streaked Horned Larks being seen anywhere else, like along the coast, or in >western Washington? Livermore Rd. is at the center of a fairly large >breeding population of Horned Larks, and they are found here every winter. >Are there other areas where they are found some years but not this year, or >are they always found in the same traditional locations? I know this is not >a very scientific way to estimate the population, but it would be >interesting to identify winter concentration areas. It seems topical, and I >hope people will appreciate what they are looking at as they search for the >McCown's! If people reply directly to me, I can summarize the results and >post them to OBOL. > >Karen Sparkman >Salem >stukar@teleport.com > > > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Russell Rogers, Mary Moore, Emily Rogers, and Will Rogers 219 South 2nd Ave. Sequim WA 98382 (360) 582-3781 mailto:rrogers@olypen.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Russell Rogers Fish and Wildlife Biologist Point Whitney Shellfish Laboratory Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife 1000 Point Whitney Road Brinnon WA 98320 (360) 586-1498 ex 221 mailto:rogerrer@dfw.wa.gov ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgoodhew at clearwater.net Sun Jan 12 07:03:28 2003 From: lgoodhew at clearwater.net (Larry & Jacque Goodhew) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: lark numbers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030112230821.C3AAD3585@astro.nws.orst.edu> Hi. We also were there yesterday and 80 to 100 seams like about right for the flock we were finding the longspur with. I wonder how many people went to see the flycatcher? . Larry and Jacque Goodhew Walla Walla , WA From puaiohi at peak.org Sun Jan 12 15:33:02 2003 From: puaiohi at peak.org (Tom Snetsinger) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: OBOL: Linn County PACIFIC GOLDEN-PLOVER Message-ID: <000701c2ba92$f5e348e0$96bcefd8@0ftp8> OBOL, I drove back home via Tangent today and stopped to check out a large flock of Killdeer near the junction of Country and Tangent Dr. At the back of the flock was a nice bright PACIFIC GOLDEN-PLOVER (3 primaries extending beyond the tertials). This is at least the third consecutive year that this site has hosted a/this Pacific Golden-Plover. For those that do not know the site and wish to check it out. It is southwest of the junction of Hwy 99E and Hwy 34 (and due west of Tangent). The flock was in what has been a typical location for the past three years, just south of the warehouse buildings on the southwest corner of Country and Tangent. The golden-plover was hanging out at the back of the flock, practically up against the fenceline on the east side of the RR tracks. If you don't find the flock here, they occasionally move west over the RR tracks to the adjoining field. Tom Snetsinger puaiohi@peak.org From acontrer at mindspring.com Sun Jan 12 16:26:49 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Non-Glaucous Message-ID: Based on Noah's excellent photos I am sure that the Glaucous Gull reported at Florence in December (perhaps same as the late Nov. bird) is a hybrid Glaucous-Other. I'd guess Glaucous-GWing or Glaucous-Herring but I have no real expertise in such things. The photos will be posted soon. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From malbirds at fmtc.com Sun Jan 12 17:33:15 2003 From: malbirds at fmtc.com (ekmarple) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Birds & Storms Message-ID: <000701c2baa3$bfb45fa0$ae26bed8@v21ys> E.OR - West of Vale If there is any doubt concerning birds and weather - your should read - "There Were No Birds" A Memoir of the Storm of "72, Brookings, Oregon. Written by Jayne Gibney. The lack of birds saved Bill on the Manatee, he turned back to Gold Beach. There are also stories of why some people weren't fishing that day. We are getting some much needed rain here - and not much birding Marple From hrndlark at juno.com Sun Jan 12 17:12:03 2003 From: hrndlark at juno.com (Mary Anne Sohlstrom) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: OFO Volunteers Message-ID: <20030112.171616.1264.3.hrndlark@juno.com> Hello OBOL, In recent days, suggestions have come up on OBOL for recognizing people who have been especially accommodating to birders. These include the folks in Florence with the the BALTIMORE ORIOLE in their yard, the gal in Gresham who has welcomed birders looking for the BLUE JAY, and last year's LARK BUNTING in Bandon. There is also the golf course in Woodburn which has been helpful with the VERMILION FLYCATCHER. Oregon Field Ornithologists (OFO) is proud to represent Oregon birders in providing recognition to good hosts. We do so by presenting certificates of appreciation and, if possible, a good image or photograph of the bird that drew so many birders to their doorstep. Pamela Johnston has volunteered to coordinate nominations of people who deserve recognition for graciously welcoming birders to their homes and yards. So if you come across someone who deserves OFO recognition, please send Pam a note, providing whatever information you can about the the good host -- their name, how to contact them, any special remarks you would like to see highlighted in the commendation. Also let Pam know if you have a good photo of the bird that you could provide for this purpose. Of course, we also encourage birders who visit these places to express your personal thanks in whatever way you feel is appropriate! With these commendations, OFO simply provides a way for us to collectively express our thanks, beyond individual expressions of gratitude. If anyone else would like to help Pam in this important role, please let her know. OFO is nothing except for the volunteers who keep it going. Here are a few: Good-host nominations: Pamela Johnston pamelaj@spiritone.com Birding Weekends: Ray Korpi rkorpi@clark.edu OFO Bookcase: Lucy Biggs lucyb@cyber-dyne.com Oregon Birds: Production & Distribution: Sylvia Maulding sylviabird@att.net, Anne Heyerly tanager@nu-world.com and Don DeWitt dondewitt@hotmail.com Editors: Steve Dowlan oregonbirds@aol.com , Don DeWitt dondewitt@hotmail.com and Laura Graves Membership: Anne Heyerly tanager@nu-world.com Yes, some of these folks are doing double duty! There's always room for more volunteers, so let us know if you'd like to help. If you are not already a member of OFO and would like to join this organization for all Oregon birders, please get in touch with Anne Heyerly tanager@nu-world.com or visit our website at www.oregonbirds.org Our thanks to everyone who cheerfully volunteers their time to help OFO suceed! Mary Anne Sohlstrom President, OFO From dan-patw at worldnet.att.net Sun Jan 12 17:24:45 2003 From: dan-patw at worldnet.att.net (Dan Waldron) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Bobwhite Question References: Message-ID: <3E22155A.DD9141CE@worldnet.att.net> Dear Bill, Two years ago I had a neighbor ( 3 miles away) buy 50 Northern Bobwhite chicks from a feed store, raise them in a 12 x 12 horse stall and release them. She said 4 of them were seen the following year, and none this year. Pat Waldron East of Scio Linn Co. William A Tice wrote: > Obol, > Can anyone tell me if the Northern Bobwhite still exists as a wild bird > here in Oregon? If so, where? Thanks > > Bill > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com From tc at empnet.com Sun Jan 12 17:45:36 2003 From: tc at empnet.com (Tom Crabtree) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur update References: Message-ID: <005001c2baa5$783e1560$6caae4d8@bendcable.com> Could someone give me an update on whether the Longspur was seen today? Thanks, Tom Crabtree Bend From celata at pacifier.com Sun Jan 12 18:31:24 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: reason #6 for why I (usually) don't chase Message-ID: <3e2224fc.4bf7.0@pacifier.com> There's no such thing as an easy twitch.... I have to be at an IBA technical committee meeting tomorrow and since both recent rare birds are with in minutes of the I-5 corridor I figured what the heck.... I fully expected not to be able to find the McCOWN'S LONGSPUR, but much to my delight others had it in view within minutes of my arrival and I managed about 20 minutes of good viewing. The HORNED LARK numbers today were somewhere between 80-100. I would also say that while there were many bright yellow larks which are probably _strigata_ there are also very dull individuals with no streaks on the upper tail coverts (the fieldmark Pyle emphasizes) which very likely belong to one of the other subspecies. I arrived at Woodburn at 14:30hrs and spent the next 1.5 hrs in rain punctuated by heavy rain NOT seeing the Vermillion Flycatcher which by all accounts should have been a lock (several folks at the longspur had come from viewing it and assured me... 5 minutes tops). So... a mixed day of driveby twitching. Mike Patterson Somewhere in the southern Willamette Valley From Korndog at Bendnet.com Sun Jan 12 18:17:03 2003 From: Korndog at Bendnet.com (Steve Kornfeld) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Baltimore Oriole - yes - barely Message-ID: <002201c2baa9$dd633160$1e24a3ce@default> OBOL, To avoid the birding crowd up north, I went for the Baltimore Oriole in Florence this morning. Observing the suet feeder at 391 Kingwood from daylight until 1315 produced no Orioles. Fortunately Patti Bernardi and I were in radio contact when the bird showed up at the suet feeder in front of the apartment complex on Laurel ( Others may have the address). The total show was less than 5 minutes. The feeder on Laurel is crammed with fruit not just suet and may be currently more reliable for the Oriole. Also it can be observed from inside your car. It was a bit rainy today. Steve Kornfeld Bend -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030112/c06e5e4f/attachment.htm From baileydc at pdx.edu Sun Jan 12 19:36:47 2003 From: baileydc at pdx.edu (David C. Bailey) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Fw: OBOL: McCown's Longspur on Sunday Message-ID: <000a01c2bab5$0284cde0$7ef9fea9@suzanna> Oregon Birders, Dave Helzer asked me to forward his message to the list (see below). > ---------- > From: "Dave Helzer" > To: OBOL > Subject: OBOL: McCown's Longspur on Sunday > Date: Sun, Jan 12, 2003, 4:09 PM > > > The MCCOWN'S LONGSPUR was at the Port of Portland site today (1/12) from > about 11 AM - 12:00 with the HORNED LARK flock. A few of the male larks > looked right for Streaked Horned Lark, with a bright rust wash on the > mantle, nape and extending down onto the sharply streaked chest and flanks. > As for numbers, when the flock flushed, it looked to me to be about 70-80 > birds at most. The LONGSPUR did not flush with the larks. There were also > about a dozen WESTERN MEADOWLARKS. > > Over at Smith and Bybee Lakes there was an ORANGE-CROWNED WARBLER in the > woods near the lot and a lone REDHEAD with the big flock of usual waterfowl. > > > Dave Helzer > Portland, Oregon > dhelzer@teleport.com > I was at the field there by Ramsey Lake later in the day and saw the McCOWN'S LONGSPUR as well. I counted the HORNED LARKS serveral times and came up with 86 as my top number (were there really hundreds there last week?). An unidentified small Accipiter was perched in a tree on an island in Ramsey Lake (which is north of the field on the other side of the railroad tracks. The edge of the lake there is also where the JohnIain crew found a Swamp Sparrow last year. I pished a bit, but with out success. I would be curious if others have tried lately for the swamp sparrow there, or seen any in Multnomah County lately. It will certainly be interesting to see if the McCown's stays around all winter. Some development of the field (earth-moving and survey staking) appeared to have gone on in the field since my last visit, so it remains to be seen if enough habitat will still be around for very much longer. I wondered if spreading some seeds out would be of interest to the larks et al., but didn't act on that thought. It would sure be nice to see this bird in full nuptual plumage. David David C. Bailey baileydc@pdx.edu Portland, Oregon From loricain at charter.net Sun Jan 12 19:54:22 2003 From: loricain at charter.net (Lee & Lori Cain) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: test of new email Message-ID: <003201c2bab7$7f1bb920$d8f9be42@hbhsb01> This is test of new email.... While I am at it I might mention that after at least 2 months with none, the TOWNSEND'S WARBLERS were back in my yard today. Lee Cain Aquatic Biology/Integrated Science Astoria High School >//////> >//////> >//////> Home: loricain@charter.net From skipr at teleport.com Sun Jan 12 20:19:13 2003 From: skipr at teleport.com (skipr@teleport.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20030112201913.00de9fc8@127.0.0.1> >Could someone give me an update on whether the Longspur was seen today? Yes, I saw it today around 1pm. It was apparently seen on and off all day roday. Go for it, Tom! -Skip From mccarmel at peak.org Sun Jan 12 20:56:22 2003 From: mccarmel at peak.org (Marcia F. Cutler) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Bobwhite Question References: Message-ID: <3E2246F6.7A41@peak.org> I heard a Northern Bobwhite last summer at Finley NWR (Benton Co.) I believe they've been heard/seen here for the past 2 years at least. A question for Jamie Simmons: What is the status of Northern Bobwhite for purposes of listing in OFO (county, year, life)? Thanks, Marcia F. Cutler mccarmel@peak.org William A Tice wrote: > > Obol, > Can anyone tell me if the Northern Bobwhite still exists as a wild bird > here in Oregon? If so, where? Thanks > > Bill > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com From greg at thebirdguide.com Sun Jan 12 21:01:49 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (Greg Gillson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: Vermilion/Baltimore pics Message-ID: <001701c2bac0$e79fec60$63b2efd8@guide> I have posted Owen Schmidt's video capture of Vermilion Flycatcher and Baltimore Oriole at: http://thebirdguide.com/rarebirds/rare_photos.htm Greg Gillson Cornelius, Oregon greg@thebirdguide.com http://thebirdguide.com From kestrel at aaahawk.com Sun Jan 12 21:18:26 2003 From: kestrel at aaahawk.com (Carol Ledford) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur and White-throated Sparrows - YES! Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who posts excellent directions to unusual birds visiting Oregon. It makes birding so much more fun than it might otherwise be. Today, Bill Clemons and I had a lovely day of birding, sometimes in a soft mist (Oregon sunshine?), which included great looks at the McCOWN’S LONGSPUR in the Rivergate Industrial area, a new life bird for us both, and life looks at the WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS at Fernhill Wetlands in Forest Grove (the tan-striped plumage was new for us). Other interesting birds in the Rivergate area included HORNED LARKS and WESTERN MEADOWLARKS. Other birds at Fernhill included … Golden-crowned Sparrow Lincoln’s Sparrow Black-capped Chickadee Ruby-crowned Kinglet Golden-crowned Kinglet Mourning Dove Am. Kestrel No. Harrier (Fem.) Bald Eagle Red-tailed Hawk Am. Crow Bewick’s Wren Tundra Swan D-C Cormorant Great Blue Heron Great Egret No. Shoveler Ruddy Duck L. Scaup Ring-necked Duck Common Merganser (Male & Fem.) Hooded Merganser (1 Fem.) Am. Wigeon Green-winged Teal Am. Coot Pied-billed Grebe No. Pintail Bufflehead Mew Gull Can. Goose Mallard Gadwall Carol Ledford kestrel@aaahawk.com From quack at teleport.com Sun Jan 12 21:41:13 2003 From: quack at teleport.com (Roy W. Lowe) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:39 2004 Subject: test of new email In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To go along with Lee's observation I had a flock of 30 Townsend's Warblers "working" the hemlock trees in my yard near Eckman Lake in Waldport today. These are the first I've seen in awhile. Roy > From: "Lee & Lori Cain" > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:54:22 -0800 > To: "Obol" > Subject: [obol] test of new email > > This is test of new email.... > While I am at it I might mention that after at least 2 months with none, the > TOWNSEND'S WARBLERS were back in my yard today. > > Lee Cain > Aquatic Biology/Integrated Science > Astoria High School >> //////> >//////> >//////> > Home: loricain@charter.net > > From bcraig at attbi.com Sun Jan 12 22:13:33 2003 From: bcraig at attbi.com (bcraig) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhite Message-ID: My wife and I have seen Bobwhites three times at the parking area at Oak Island trail on Sauvie Island, and have had them answer my imitation "call" several times one evening. All three of these occurances were in April thru May of 2002. I do not know if they are introduced, or any other facts about the Bobwhites at Oak Island. Bruce Craig. From woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 12 22:09:40 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com (J. Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: N. Bobwhite and listing; OBRC question Message-ID: <20030113060940.26152.qmail@web13607.mail.yahoo.com> >status of Northern Bobwhite for purposes of listing in OFO (county, >year, life)? First, let me state that I am not the listing rules expert or authority for OFO. I am only the compiler. So whatever I write below is based on the fact that the OFO board voted to adopt ABA listing rules (as they adapt to listing in Oregon.) Quoting from the ABA Listing Rules: (iii) an introduced species may be counted only where and when it meets the ABA Checklist's definition for being an established population. An introduced species observed well away from the accepted geographic area is not counted if it is more likely to be a local escape or release rather than an individual straying from the distant population. (iv) an indigenous species which is reintroduced into an historic range of the species may be counted when the population meets the ABA Checklist's definition of being established or when it is not possible to reasonably separate the reintroduced individuals from naturally occurring individuals. My take would be that in the case of listing in Oregon, "ABA" in the above paragraphs should be replaced with OBRC. My recollection is that a population must be a viable, established population for at least 10 years for the birds to be countable. I don't know the exact definitions of viable and established. Apparently Monk Parakeets, even though they've been in Oregon for more than 17 years, are not considered established and viable in Oregon since they don't appear on the official checklist. I haven't followed most of the current obol thread on N. Bobwhite, but my recollection from previous years was that, if there were any "countable" birds, they were in n. Umatilla County. If I'm not mistaken, a message in the current thread on obol stated that they've been gone from there since 1993. Perhaps someone on the OBRC can comment on the viable and established concept. Jamie Corvallis woodpecker97330@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 12 22:12:24 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com (J. Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Flicker damage control - compiled sugestions Message-ID: <20030113061224.79676.qmail@web13604.mail.yahoo.com> Following is a list of the basic ideas I received for dealing with excavating roosting flickers. Some used more than one of the solutions together. Below the list is the relevant text from the more than a dozen replies I received. THANKS to all who sent info! Jamie - Corvallis - woodpecker97330@yahoo.com -Hang nest box(es) at the excavation site for them to roost in. Flicker, kestrel, wood duck, & owl boxes were all suggested. The most common response; several have had success with this. Email me if you need flicker box dimensions. -Install metal flashing or wire mesh over the area. (2 or 3 sent this) -Add sacrificial protective panels, something like cedar fencing material. -blobs of silicon caulking, which the flickers don't like to peck, though they may keep moving on down to the next bare spot.... -7-1/2 inch diameter shaving or cosmetic mirrors that enlarge the image -hawk silhouette mobiles -Mylar helium balloons -bird netting that is available to put over fruit trees -attach dry cleaning plastic bags with lath so it waved in the wind -hang an inflatable snake filled with insulating foam that hardens There is a fairly simple, bird-friendly solution. I have 275 nest boxes in the Deschutes Co. area for various species, concentrating somewhat on kestrels (fledging 97 in '02), but I also fledged 19 flickers last year. The flickers frequently use the kestrel boxes (without damage) as night roosts during the winter. Kestrel and flicker boxes are pretty much the same size, with the kestrel box having a standard entrance hole size of 3", and the flicker boxes 2 1/2". I make my own boxes, but flicker boxes are generally available at bird supply stores, such as The Backyard Bird Shops or Wild Birds Unlimited. Just add a couple of inches of pine or cedar shavings, available at pet shops, to the bottom of the box. Mount the box under the eaves in the area of the damage and everyone should be happy. If he puts a nest box in the place where they are excavating, they should use it. This solution has worked for others in the same situation. It's an easy solution. Some people even put up multiple flicker houses around their eaves so the flickers move into the boxes and leave the eaves of their homes alone. We have three flicker nest boxes up and they leave our eaves alone. The positive side of that is that they might nest in those boxes this spring. We were fortunate to have our first successful flicker nest this past spring/summer. They had 3 babies. What a treat! I had a similar problem here in South Beach. I solved it by 1. putting heavy wire mesh over the vent hole the flicker was using, and 2. hanging a flicker box from the eaves next to its roost site. The flicker has moved into the box and we all are happier. Hang a wood duck box Try adding sacrificial protective panels, something like cedar fencing material. It's fairly cheap and very Zen. Where they are hard at work use metal flashing. It can be painted if temps are over 55 degrees, and won't even be noticed. I volunteer at Seattle Audubon, and there are a few things we tell people to do to discourage flickers. Hardware cloth (window screen) tacked up over the wood sometimes works. Metal flashing is even better. Someone told us she uses blobs of silicon caulking, which the flickers don't like to peck. Of course, the problem is that the flickers just keep moving on down to the next bare spot.... Here are 2 web sites that have information on flicker damage: http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:WJNY27CIIHoC:agpublications.tamu.edu/pubs/twdms/l1922.pdf+flickers+eaves http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:3aCbGgWRw4MC:www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/natres/06516.pdf+flickers+eaves From tjanzen at attbi.com Mon Jan 13 00:51:17 2003 From: tjanzen at attbi.com (Tim Janzen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhite In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Bruce, It is generally felt that the Bobwhites on Sauvie Island are birds that have been released for the exercises that hunters conduct there with their hunting dogs. There are apparently staged competitions involving hunting dogs in which Bobwhites are used as the game bird. If these releases of Bobwhites were not going on it is generally felt that the Bobwhites there would quickly die off as they have in other parts of the Willamette Valley. Thus I don't believe that there are any populations of Bobwhites in the Willamette Valley that are "countable" from an ABA standpoint. Sincerely, Tim Janzen Portland -----Original Message----- From: bcraig [mailto:bcraig@attbi.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:14 PM To: Obol Subject: [obol] Bobwhite My wife and I have seen Bobwhites three times at the parking area at Oak Island trail on Sauvie Island, and have had them answer my imitation "call" several times one evening. All three of these occurances were in April thru May of 2002. I do not know if they are introduced, or any other facts about the Bobwhites at Oak Island. Bruce Craig. From bigrocketman3 at webtv.net Mon Jan 13 04:53:00 2003 From: bigrocketman3 at webtv.net (Steve McDonald) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhites Message-ID: <27466-3E22B6AC-3598@storefull-2111.public.lawson.webtv.net> Up until the mid-Sixties, Bobwhites were numerous throughout the Willamette Valley. There were also small clusters of Gray (Hungarian) Partridge, mostly in the east-central part of the valley. The partridge had been introduced many years before and gradually declined. The last one I saw was on my farm north of Eugene in about 1966. The Bobwhites were introduced and annually re-stocked by ODFW until the early Sixties and perhaps later by private hunting groups. I continued to see or hear a few occasionally, until the early Eighties. However, for the last three years, I have heard one or two calling in the Spring, near the Weyerhaeuser Road, east of Springfield. Last year, I heard two different Starlings near Fern Ridge giving imitations of their call. Where do you suppose they learned that? Whether or not Bobwhites might be able to survive on their own in some habitats here is debatable. Their general disappearance coincided with two things: The end of their being re-stocked by the ODFW and the spread of many thousands of non-native Opossums up the valley. These animals are the equivalent of biological mine-sweepers with their sense of smell and cover every foot of their territory. Ground-nesting birds are very susceptible to egg predation by them. I don't imagine the increased use of pesticides and the scorched-earth practices of grass-seed farmers has helped any bird populations, either. In an alternate Oregon, that had no invasive egg-eaters and no pesticides, Bobwhites might have persisted. Since there are several native strains of them in the eastern U.S., some from northerly states where the wintertimes are more harsh than here, perhaps the best variety for survival in Oregon wasn't the type that was stocked. Steve McDonald From celata at pacifier.com Mon Jan 13 06:19:32 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: N. Bobwhite and listing; OBRC question Message-ID: <3e22caf4.4fa2.0@pacifier.com> This came up on one of the other lists I subscribe to, I forget which one... Apparently the ten-year rule has been replaced with a more rigorous definition of established which is independent of years, but also pretty much puts the questions into the hands of regional (state) records committees. >Marcia F. Cutler wrote: >>A question for Jamie Simmons: What is the >>status of Northern Bobwhite for purposes of listing in OFO (county, >>year, life)? > >First, let me state that I am not the listing rules expert or >authority for OFO. I am only the compiler. So whatever I write >below is based on the fact that the OFO board voted to adopt ABA >listing rules (as they adapt to listing in Oregon.) > >Quoting from the ABA Listing Rules: >(iii) an introduced species may be counted only where and when it >meets the ABA Checklist's definition for being an established >population. An introduced species observed well away from the >accepted geographic area is not counted if it is more likely to be a >local escape or release rather than an individual straying from the >distant population. >(iv) an indigenous species which is reintroduced into an historic >range of the species may be counted when the population meets the ABA >Checklist's definition of being established or when it is not >possible to reasonably separate the reintroduced individuals from >naturally occurring individuals. > >My take would be that in the case of listing in Oregon, "ABA" in the >above paragraphs should be replaced with OBRC. My recollection is >that a population must be a viable, established population for at >least 10 years for the birds to be countable. I don't know the exact >definitions of viable and established. Apparently Monk Parakeets, >even though they've been in Oregon for more than 17 years, are not >considered established and viable in Oregon since they don't appear >on the official checklist. I haven't followed most of the current >obol thread on N. Bobwhite, but my recollection from previous years >was that, if there were any "countable" birds, they were in n. >Umatilla County. If I'm not mistaken, a message in the current >thread on obol stated that they've been gone from there since 1993. > >Perhaps someone on the OBRC can comment on the viable and established >concept. > >Jamie >Corvallis >woodpecker97330@yahoo.com > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > From pamelaj at spiritone.com Mon Jan 13 08:37:09 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhite & Chukar, westside Message-ID: <002b01c2bb22$0614bde0$a6c563d8@sburock> It might be worth mentioning that the Chukar seen on Sauvie Island are from the same general source as the Bobwhite, while those east of the mountains are established there. Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From greg at thebirdguide.com Mon Jan 13 09:32:09 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (greg@thebirdguide.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: OBOL listing policy Message-ID: I have been asked about OBOL posting policy. As far as I know, nothing has changed since the list was first set up about 9 years ago. Of course, birding has changed since then, and OBOL has grown from the 7 initiators to over 800 members and, no doubt, thousands of others that read occasionally Siler?s web archive. Nevertheless, I believe the original posting policy is still adequate. Oregon Birders On-Line is a list for the posting of wild bird sightings within the state, ID discussions, field trip announcements (fee & free), as well as occasional (i.e., no more than monthly) commercial posts related to birding in Oregon and by Oregon birders. Discouraged topics include those of a political nature (?write your congressman?), topics about pest control (starlings, cats), or hunting or gun control. Personal verbal attacks on others are not allowed?I believe the original wording was ?be nice.? OBOL has more bird-related posts, and more sense of community, than any other online birding list that I know. Of course, I am biased, being one of the original 7 initiators and also having a commercial birding effort. Greg Gillson OBOL Co-List-Owner greg@thebirdguide.com From mklittletree at attbi.com Mon Jan 13 10:18:03 2003 From: mklittletree at attbi.com (Michel Kleinbaum) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhite Question References: Message-ID: <00ae01c2bb30$1cc82be0$47a7e70c@attbi.com> I saw a pair of BOBWHITES cross the road on Liberty Road S., halfway between Salem and Ankeny Hill Road on 13 Dec. 1996. The female ran into the shrubbery but the male stopped long enough to be identified. Michel Kleinbaum S.Salem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia F. Cutler" To: "Obol" Cc: "William A Tice" Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: [obol] Re: Bobwhite Question > I heard a Northern Bobwhite last summer at Finley NWR (Benton Co.) I > believe they've been heard/seen here for the past 2 years at least. > > A question for Jamie Simmons: What is the status of Northern Bobwhite > for purposes of listing in OFO (county, year, life)? > > Thanks, > > Marcia F. Cutler > mccarmel@peak.org > > William A Tice wrote: > > > > Obol, > > Can anyone tell me if the Northern Bobwhite still exists as a wild bird > > here in Oregon? If so, where? Thanks > > > > Bill > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > > Only $9.95 per month! > > Visit www.juno.com > > From roygerig at hotmail.com Mon Jan 13 10:17:19 2003 From: roygerig at hotmail.com (Roy Gerig) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Polk Goldeneyes 11/12 Message-ID: Unexpected among the phalanx of dux at the Willamina Sewage Ponds were a duplex of goldeneyes. The female COMMON GOLDENEYE has a normal head and all dark bill, while the female BARROW'S GOLDENEYE has a head that appears smooshed forward and a bright all yellow bill. It was a good duck day at WSP. Also present were a male EURASIAN WIDGEON, both SCAUP SPP., HOODED MERGANSERS and all the other common winter ducks. Back at Baskett Slough there was a PEREGRINE FALCON, and then a NORTHERN SHRIKE that 3 nice people pointed out, and a MERLIN was perched on a sign along Farmer Rd. In a 3 mile hike up Mill Creek from the gate, while enjoying the steady rain, I saw exactly one bird, a Ruby-crowned Kinglet. Roy Gerig, Salem OR _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From donalbri at teleport.com Mon Jan 13 10:42:39 2003 From: donalbri at teleport.com (Don Albright) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Vermillion Flycatcher this morning--yes Message-ID: <000d01c2bb33$8dede6e0$fbc8bb3f@onemain.com> OBOL, This morning Harry Nehls and I waited 10 or 15 minutes for the Vermillion Flycatcher to appear at its usual location, along Hazelnut Drive in Woodburn. It flew in from the north at 9:45 a.m. and stayed around the pond just south of Hazelnut until we left a few minutes later. All the superlative adjectives that people have used to describe the beauty of this bird still apply. Don Albright Newberg, Oregon donalbri@teleport.com From mitcher4 at hotmail.com Mon Jan 13 12:44:55 2003 From: mitcher4 at hotmail.com (Mitch Ratzlaff) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhite Question References: Message-ID: OBOL, Following the thread of Bobwhites in Oregon, my mother called me at work several months ago because she was taking pictures of 5 Bobwhite visiting her feeders in the W Salem hills. Saw the pictures later on...definitely Bobwhite. This was just days after there was a report on OBOL of a bunch of them being released at EE Wilson for a competition of some sort. Mitch Ratzlaff Newberg mitcher4@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Kleinbaum" To: "Obol" Cc: "William A Tice" Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: [obol] Re: Bobwhite Question I saw a pair of BOBWHITES cross the road on Liberty Road S., halfway between Salem and Ankeny Hill Road on 13 Dec. 1996. The female ran into the shrubbery but the male stopped long enough to be identified. Michel Kleinbaum S.Salem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia F. Cutler" To: "Obol" Cc: "William A Tice" Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: [obol] Re: Bobwhite Question > I heard a Northern Bobwhite last summer at Finley NWR (Benton Co.) I > believe they've been heard/seen here for the past 2 years at least. > > A question for Jamie Simmons: What is the status of Northern Bobwhite > for purposes of listing in OFO (county, year, life)? > > Thanks, > > Marcia F. Cutler > mccarmel@peak.org > > William A Tice wrote: > > > > Obol, > > Can anyone tell me if the Northern Bobwhite still exists as a wild bird > > here in Oregon? If so, where? Thanks > > > > Bill > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > > Only $9.95 per month! > > Visit www.juno.com > > From mccarmel at peak.org Mon Jan 13 13:01:09 2003 From: mccarmel at peak.org (Marcia F. Cutler) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: RBA: Linn GYRFALCON Message-ID: <3E232915.E09@peak.org> Obolers, I just got a phone call from Jeff Fleischer who reported seeing a GYRFALCON during his raptor run. The bird was on Falk Rd. about halfway between Seefeld and Lake Cr. Drives (DeLorme, p.47 A-B8). He described the bird as a gray immature with a 'honking' tail, strong breast streaking and a faint mustache. Directions: Take I-5 to the Brownsville/Halsey Hwy 218 exit. Turn west on 218 to Halsey. At Halsey, turn left (south) onto 99E. Seefeld is the first main road to the left south of Halsey. If you miss this turnoff, continue to the next road to the left which is Lake Creek. Falk Road runs between Seefeld and Lake Creek about 2 miles east of 99E. Jeff reported seeing the bird in a tree by the road next to a house with a red barn next door. He speculated that this may be the same bird which was possibly seen on the Corvallis CBC 12/17 off of Shedd Cemetary Rd. which is not that far away. Marcia F. Cutler mccarmel@peak.org From shroyers at worldnet.att.net Mon Jan 13 15:28:50 2003 From: shroyers at worldnet.att.net (Shroyer, Loris Joline) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: 1997 Bobwhite In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In June 1997 while working in the kitchen, I heard a very loud down-up whistle from the direction of the orchard outside, below the back deck. That seemed like a bizarre way for my husband to signal me. After another couple of calls, I suspected it might be a large bird (I was still working and hadn't had time to join Audubon to expand my bird I.D.s yet). I grabbed the binocs, stepped onto the deck, and duplicated the call, which was immediately answered. A couple of more calls were exchanged--and suddenly, I was startled by this beautiful big quail fluttering up 18 feet from the ground onto my deck railing. It stayed within 10 feet of me checking me out for a few minutes, long enough for me to get the camera and return to take a picture. By then I surmised that the call combined with the quail look might indicate a bobwhite, so I looked that up in Peterson and confirmed it. We heard a call or two out in the field over the next day or so, how many birds I could not tell (it could've been the same one). However, we have not heard one since. So it may have been an escapee or just an errant straggler, but it was a special event for me. Joline, 4 mi. east of Canby From WeberHome at att.net Mon Jan 13 16:49:16 2003 From: WeberHome at att.net (Cliff & Joanne) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: OBOL Policy Message-ID: OBOL; Hello! The official OBOL user's policy is on view at this web site address. http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~lucyb/subscr.html Cliff & Joanne Beaverton From rkorpi at hotmail.com Mon Jan 13 17:01:12 2003 From: rkorpi at hotmail.com (Ray Korpi) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Listing Bobwhites Message-ID: Hi all, As I recall, there was some discussion of the movement of Northern Bobwhite populations in the Treasure Valley sections of Idaho into the Ontario area a few years ago and whether these might be countable. I have seen Bobwhite and Chukar on Sauvie Island and Scappoose Bottoms. I generally do not count them. The birds that I have seen out there (especially Bobwhite) do not act like birds in more established populations. I mean, when a Bobwhite stands in the middle of the road and looks at me while I whistle "Bob-white" at it, that's just not a Bobwhite that I would see in the Midwest where they hightail it off the roads. Of course, the nice thing about lists is that you can count it by whatever rules you want; for the OFO lists, Jamie S. has given a good overview on why rules were set up. BTW, I did get the McCown's on Saturday (WAS GREAT TO SEE SO MANY FAMILIAR FACES!!!!) and the Vermilion both days this weekend. When I was there, the Vermilion was on the north side of the road in the lake next to the little par-3 hole there. I would caution birders to stay off the golf course, however, especially if I have club in my hand!! If you are scoping, check the easternmost edge of that lake, and do check low. At one point, the bird was perched on the little hut there. Ray Korpi rkorpi@hotmail.com Vancouver WA Next OFO Weekend: Coos Bay, February 15-16 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From bcraig at attbi.com Mon Jan 13 18:35:14 2003 From: bcraig at attbi.com (bcraig) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Wallowas trip Message-ID: My wife, my brother, and I spent Sat and Sun at Enterprise/Joseph/Wallowa Lake. I'm not going to post sightings in detail unless someone wants the list for state documentation. Lemme know. Among the notables for us: Sat. Wallowa River, Wallowa Wayside Park: Common Merganser -- 1 male, 7 female Wade Gulch Road just above Wallowa River: First-winter Northern Shrike -- 1 Townsends Solitaire -- 1 Intersection of Golf Course Road and School Flat Road: Golden Eagle -- 1 Golf Course Road, approx one mile S of intersection with School Flat Road: Ring-necked Pheasant -- approx 30-36 -- we suspect the occupants of the farm were putting out feed for them as they were all in one group near the farmhouse Eggleston Lane, approx 1/2 mile west of Hwy 82: Bohemian Waxwing -- approx 20-24 Cassin's Finch -- approx 24-30 Several locations: Rough-legged Hawk -- 5 South end Wallowa Lake: Bald Eagle -- 1 pair Wallowa Lake, mileposts 3 to 4 Mallard -- in excess of 1000 No other ducks observed in the flock Sun: North end Wallowa Lake near outlet: Common Goldeneye -- 1 male adult breeding Fish Hatchery Wildlife Refuge pond: Bufflehead -- 4 male, approx 20 female Barrow's Goldeneye -- 1 pair breeding plumage Hwy 82, approx 1/2 way between Lostine and Wallowa Bald Eagle -- 1 pair We had to make an emergency trip to Richland from Portland on Monday. Among sightings: About 3:30am at underpass nearing Kennewick, we saw an Owl swoop down on apparent prey. From size, I'd guess it was a Great Horned, but no positive ID. I-182 approx 5 miles south of Kennewick: Western Meadowlark -- approx 30 Also seen along the freeway in various places were about 12 Northern Harrier, about 8 immature and 2 adult Red-tail Hawks, and 2 Kestrel. There were many hundreds of ducks of various kinds, along with Coots, Cormorants, and a few geese along the Columbia. We did not have time to make other than general observations that "there is another flock of ducks" etc. We saw no Osprey this trip. Bruce Craig. From fschrock at macnet.com Mon Jan 13 18:41:44 2003 From: fschrock at macnet.com (Floyd Schrock) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bob White stories Message-ID: <001601c2bb76$7a393620$9c4efea9@onlinemac.com> Does anyone else keep a list of birds identified by telephone? About two years ago my brother (a non-birder at the time) called from his backyard in Silverton to ask me about a loud bird call he was hearing. Before he had finished his question I heard the unmistakable "Bob White" whistle in the background. I don't think it has been heard there since then, but maybe there is a Silverton Obolink that knows if there is a population in that community. (Truthfully, that's the only species on my 'phone list.) ===================== Floyd Schrock McMinnville, Oregon USA fschrock@macnet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030113/4baef556/attachment.htm From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 13 19:25:23 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: RBA - GYRFALCON - Linn Co. Message-ID: <20030114032523.97796.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> Obolers, Today while conducting another raptor run in the Valley, I came across an immature grayphased GYRFALCON. What a stunner! As I was driving close to it I thought "another Red-tail coming up" As I got closer, it was obviously not a bulky buteo. It stood taller and straighter but at least the size of a Red-tail. I thought Gyr right away and was near panic while turning my truck around so that I could mount my window scope to look at it. The description posted to OBOL for me by Marcia Cutler pretty well sums it up. Gray back and wings, heavily streaked chest, fainter less pronounced mustache than a Prairie, large tail extending noticeably beyond folded wingtips, body size of a Red-tailed hawk. Thanks Marcia for posting it for me :) As Marcia mentioned, there was a possible Gyrfalcon seen during the Corvallis CBC about 6 miles NW of today's location. From what Marcia told me on the phone, it sounds like they could be the same bird. Hopefully this bird will hang around for awhile for others to see. I was hoping to complete a falcon slam after seeing this bird but missed a Prairie and a Merlin on the day. Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 13 19:54:42 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Linn County - Raptor Run #7 Message-ID: <20030114035442.29396.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com> Obolers, Today I completed the second run of the winter in what I call Unit 4. This is the area bounded on the west by the Willamette River, on the south by the county line, on the east by Gap Rd, and on the north by Highway 228. I spent right at 6 hours today driving 140.4 miles. I started at 11:05 and by 11:40 it started raining and didn't let up for the rest of the day. Temperature averaged about 47 degrees for the afternoon. A total of 119 raptors were seen today, 10 fewer than the first run conducted on 12/09/02. Following is a chart which depicts what I saw today and what was seen on the first run in ( ). Red-tailed Hawk 34 (54) American Kestrel 66 (65) Bald Eagle 10 ( 5) Northern Harrier 5 ( 4) Peregrine Falcon 2 ( 1) Cooper's Hawk 1 - GYRFALCON 1 - Other birds of special note today were one adult NORTHERN SHRIKE found on Falk Rd about 0.3 miles north of Seefeld Rd and a small flock of 30 LEAST SANDPIPERS on Seefeld Rd just east of Highway 99E. The PEREGRINE FALCONS were both immatures, one being found on Irish Bend Loop right at the edge of the Willamette River and the other found a quarter mile north of the intersection of Diamond Hill Dr and Harris Dr. The Harrier breakdown was 4 males and 1 female. The Bald Eagle breakdown was 6 adults and 4 subadults. Obviously, THE best bird of the day was the immature grayphase GYRFALCON seen along Falk Rd between Seefeld Dr and Lake Creek Dr. What a treat! Kind of like the Snowy Owl that Jeff Harding and I found on one of the runs last winter :) Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From whoffman at pioneer.net Mon Jan 13 20:08:25 2003 From: whoffman at pioneer.net (whoffman@pioneer.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhites References: Message-ID: <3E238D39.585B@pioneer.net> Opossoms do eat aggs, and do raid ground nests, but they are common in much of the natural range of Bobwhites, so they may be more of a problem for native ground-nesting birds that have not had a long history with them. I think your other factors are probably more important. Steve McDonald wrote: > > Up until the mid-Sixties, Bobwhites were numerous throughout the > Willamette Valley. > There were also small clusters of Gray (Hungarian) Partridge, mostly in > the east-central part of the valley. The partridge had been introduced > many years before and gradually declined. The last one I saw was on my > farm north of Eugene in about 1966. The Bobwhites were introduced and > annually re-stocked by ODFW until the early Sixties and perhaps later by > private hunting groups. I continued to see or hear a few occasionally, > until the early Eighties. However, for the last three years, I have > heard one or two calling in the Spring, near the Weyerhaeuser Road, east > of Springfield. Last year, I heard two different Starlings near Fern > Ridge giving imitations of their call. Where do you suppose they > learned that? > > Whether or not Bobwhites might be able to survive on their own in > some habitats here is debatable. Their general disappearance coincided > with two things: The end of their being re-stocked by the ODFW and the > spread of many thousands of non-native Opossums up the valley. These > animals are the equivalent of biological mine-sweepers with their sense > of smell and cover every foot of their territory. Ground-nesting birds > are very susceptible to egg predation by them. I don't imagine the > increased use of pesticides and the scorched-earth practices of > grass-seed farmers has helped any bird populations, either. In an > alternate Oregon, that had no invasive egg-eaters and no pesticides, > Bobwhites might > have persisted. Since there are several native strains of them in the > eastern U.S., some from northerly states where the wintertimes are more > harsh than here, perhaps the best variety for survival in Oregon wasn't > the type that was stocked. > > Steve McDonald From celata at pacifier.com Mon Jan 13 20:27:21 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bob White stories References: Message-ID: <3E2391A7.EA76B9F0@pacifier.com> No, but I do have a list of birds identified while watching golf on TV.... > Floyd Schrock wrote: > > Does anyone else keep a list of birds identified by telephone? > > About two years ago my brother (a non-birder at the time) called from > his backyard in Silverton to ask me about a loud bird call he was > hearing. Before he had finished his question I heard the unmistakable > "Bob White" whistle in the background. I don't think it has been > heard there since then, but maybe there is a Silverton Obolink that > knows if there is a population in that community. > > (Truthfully, that's the only species on my 'phone list.) > > ===================== > Floyd Schrock > McMinnville, Oregon USA > fschrock@macnet.com -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From bigrocketman3 at webtv.net Mon Jan 13 21:12:37 2003 From: bigrocketman3 at webtv.net (Steve McDonald) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhites Message-ID: <27467-3E239C45-3847@storefull-2111.public.lawson.webtv.net> In response to the aspect that was raised about Bobwhites having survived Opossums in territory native to them both: When introduced Opossums spread throughout the Willamette Valley, reaching my home in Eugene in the early Sixties, they underwent a population explosion. Limited only by encounters with vehicles and an occasional dog, they reached numbers far beyond what existed in their natural homeland. I spent 2 1/2 years on wildlife refuges and other undeveloped rural habitat in Alabama. There were numerous Bobwhites, which were the only galinaceous bird regularly found. Although Opossums were common, their population was much lower than it was here in the Willamette Valley in the Sixties and Seventies. They obviously didn't put so much pressure on quail nests in that region. It's typical for some invasive species to expand greatly in a new territory and exploit the environment. Without the diseases, parasites and predators of their homeland to control them, they go unchecked until these things begin to catch up to them. I don't know if this is indicitive of current Opossum numbers over all of Oregon, but for the past ten years, I've been seeing fewer and fewer of them in every type of area and as roadkill. I've seen only two near my home in the last three years, but twenty-five years ago, I'd see several every evening. My neighbors' little terrier used to kill an average of three per week in their yard back then and they just kept coming. Is it coincidence and unrelated, that the numbers of C. Pheasants and Ruffed Grouse on the valley floor dropped to a small fraction of their previous levels during the Sixties? Steve McDonald From lawde13 at cableone.net Mon Jan 13 21:19:43 2003 From: lawde13 at cableone.net (Dave Lawrence) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Listing Bobwhites References: Message-ID: <002c01c2bb8c$8c28e0e0$ee947418@dave> I have been birding in the Treasure Valley, for about 8 or 9 years now and only remember 1 occassion of Bobwhite being reported in this area. That was about 2 years ago. There were 1 or 2 birds reported for a couple of months in Barber Park in Boise. I think a lot of people used these birds to tick off another species for their state list. But in all honesty, I also think that most people regard the origin of these Bobwhite to have been suspect. to my knowledge there are no known or reliable locations in southwest Idaho for this species. Dave Lawrence lawde13@cableone.net Caldwell, ID 83607 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Korpi" To: "Obol" Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 6:01 PM Subject: [obol] Listing Bobwhites > Hi all, > As I recall, there was some discussion of the movement of Northern Bobwhite > populations in the Treasure Valley sections of Idaho into the Ontario area a > few years ago and whether these might be countable. > > I have seen Bobwhite and Chukar on Sauvie Island and Scappoose Bottoms. I > generally do not count them. The birds that I have seen out there > (especially Bobwhite) do not act like birds in more established populations. > I mean, when a Bobwhite stands in the middle of the road and looks at me > while I whistle "Bob-white" at it, that's just not a Bobwhite that I would > see in the Midwest where they hightail it off the roads. > > Of course, the nice thing about lists is that you can count it by whatever > rules you want; for the OFO lists, Jamie S. has given a good overview on why > rules were set up. > > BTW, I did get the McCown's on Saturday (WAS GREAT TO SEE SO MANY FAMILIAR > FACES!!!!) and the Vermilion both days this weekend. When I was there, the > Vermilion was on the north side of the road in the lake next to the little > par-3 hole there. I would caution birders to stay off the golf course, > however, especially if I have club in my hand!! If you are scoping, check > the easternmost edge of that lake, and do check low. At one point, the bird > was perched on the little hut there. > Ray Korpi > rkorpi@hotmail.com > Vancouver WA > > Next OFO Weekend: Coos Bay, February 15-16 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Mon Jan 13 21:58:16 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Urban Screech-Owls References: Message-ID: <001d01c2bb97$a7e73b00$eac663d8@pauls> Dave, When I lived in Pendleton and did the Christmas Bird County there, I routinely found W. Screech Owls in 2 city parks (one next to the Catholic church), and a cemetery in town as well. In my efforts to find W. Screech Owls in each county, I have successfully found this species in LaGrande as well, but no where else in Union county. They used to be found at the Enterprise fish hatchery. I've never succeeded in Baker City, Bend, or other towns. In eastern Oregon towns provide big old trees with cavities, and a rodent population as you suggest. Paul T. Sullivan > Subject: Urban Screech-Owls in Portland > From: "David C. Bailey" > Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:14:25 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 7 > > Obolonians, > > My wife Suzanna and I took a walk through the neighborhood last evening > (Friday 10 Jan 2002) and as we passed through US Grant Park (NE 33rd and > Brazee) I thought I heard a Sreech-Owl hoot series. I paused and hooted > back. To our delight a pair of WESTERN SCREECH-OWLS began a duet from the > lower half of a ceder tree which was about 50 meters or so south of the > north edge of the park off of 35th place (if I remembered correctly). The > owls chased each other around the tree in the few minutes that we paused > there. > > Grant park is mostly grass and tall trees with zero understory, and the > trees (Doug Firs mostly) are not that numerous. The area is surrounded by > houses. I would guess that the owls are surviving on house mice (Mus > musculus) that are probably quite common in the park, especially with the > high school there and all the food scraps that produces, but who knows? I > have never detected Screech-Owls in NE Portland before, though I haven't > tried much. I know that in the Eastern part of the country, Screech-Owls > are failry common in developed urban areas. Anyway, a nice natural history > moment on our walk. .... > > David > > David C. Bailey > baileydc@pdx.edu > Portland, OR From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Mon Jan 13 22:11:45 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bewick's Wren in Idaho, NE Oregon References: Message-ID: <001e01c2bb97$a8b9cd40$eac663d8@pauls> Darrel, When I started birding in Pullman/Clarkston 25 years ago the one sure spot for a Bewick's Wren was the Lewis & Clark wayside east of Walla Walla. Then I saw one near Pullman in about 1980. In the ensuing years they have increased and spread east. They are now fairly regular around the greater Lewiston-Clarkston area. I saw a few on my recent visit. The local Canyon Birders no longer get too excited about them. I have seen them as far east as Spalding, ID, on the Clearwater River. The species has become regular around Hermiston and Pendleton. They have been recorded in Union county. Birders see them at Rhinehart canyon near Elgin. They have made it up the John Day River as far as Twickenham in Wheeler county. The species has even spread up the Snake River to the Grande Ronde and the Imnaha River to enter Wallowa county Oregon by the back door. (but I have yet to see one there.) Good birding, Paul Sullivan > Subject: sparrows; wren question > From: "Darrel Faxon" <5hats@peak.org> > Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:21:03 -0800 ... > Obol, > First the question: I was in Lewiston, Idaho on Friday, and heard, = > although did not see, a Bewick's Wren. I know they have been rapidly = > spreading east up the Columbia, but does anyone know if they are = > established yet in Idaho? Maybe they are already a trash bird there, = > but if not, maybe someone needs to be informed??? > Sparrows. On the way home today I stopped in at Willow Cove in = > Gilliam County. The weather was more like the first part of April than = > the first part of January. Unbelievable! And the sparrows seem to have = > responded to the mild winter by not bothering to go south. The bushes = > and trees south of the main bocy of water were loaded with hundreds of = > Song, White-crowned, and Golden-crowned Sparrows. I also saw two Fox = > Sparrows, probably a hundred Dark-eyed Juncoes, and a couple dozen = > Spotted Towhees. All these seemed to be in very much higher numbers = > than I am used to finding in eastern Oregon in the winter. = > Unfortunately I was unable to come up with any Swamp, White-throated. = > Tree, or Harris's Sparrows. > > Darrel From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Mon Jan 13 22:38:07 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Audubon Birding Weekend report - Curry county Message-ID: <001f01c2bb97$a9694720$eac663d8@pauls> Six participants & I birded Curry county this weekend on the first Audubon Birding Weekend. We tallied 75 species in the rain, rain, showers, breaks and more rain. We verified Sullivan's law yet again: "The intensity of the rain is directly proportional to your distance from the vehicle." We would get out of our rigs to sprinkles. As we walked farther afield, the rain increased until we decided to turn back. By the time we reached our vehicles, quite wet, the rain would stop. Best birds: 1 Red-necked Grebe Port Orford harbor 1 Brown Pelican ocean north of Gold Beach 1 Great Egret Pistol River 5 Tundra Swans road to Floras Lake 7 Common Goldeneye Winchuk River just east of Hwy 101 (a county first for me!) 2 White-tailed Kites Pistol River 1 Bald Eagle Winchuk River just east of Hwy 101 1 Peregrine Falcon Hwy 101 just N of Winchuk River 1+ Virginia Rail Winchuk River just east of Hwy 101 Thayer's Gulls beach roost between Pistol River & Port Orford (another county first for me) Black-legged Kittiwakes mouth of Chetco River 1 Common Murre Port Orford harbor 15+ Anna's Hummingbirds Oceanview Dr. & Gregory Ln. (This is the house that hosted the Orchard Orioles last winter.) 4 Black Phoebe multiple locations (Winchuk, Euchre Cr. Floras Lk. Rd.) 1 Hutton's Vireo Hwy 101 just N of Winchuk River 1 Townsend's Warbler Harbor harbor 2 Lincoln's Sparrows Euchre Cr. Paul T. Sullivan ptsulliv@spiritone.com (503) 646-7889 Audubon Birding Weekends http://www.audubonportland.org/birds/weekends.html From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Mon Jan 13 23:19:13 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Northern Bobwhites wild in Oregon? Message-ID: <003701c2bb9d$54133640$eac663d8@pauls> I believe the OBRC has taken Northern Bobwhite off the official Oregon list. They don't believe there are any viable, wild populations in the state. At least that is my understanding of things. When I lived in Pendleton, 1988-1990, I searched for this species, since that area was supposed to be the last redoubt of a viable population. I finally found a lone calling male near the Umatilla River in the east end of town. Then as I explored the neighborhood I heard the call again, coming from a backyard. I met the resident of the house, a retired gentleman who had incubators and pens, and raised orphaned Gray Partridge that local farmers brought him when they cut their wheat. He also raised Bobwhites..... Later I found a couple Bobwhites south of McKay NWR reservoir in the summer. I knocked on the door of the nearest house and was told that the neighbors gave their little girls "chicks" for Easter. Those chicks had grown up to be Bobwhites and were let go when the children tired of them..... I've seen Bobwhites near the Enterprise Fish Hatchery that were so tame you could almost pet them..... Clearly there are folks out there who raise and release these birds with some frequency in various places. The Sauvie Island birds are pretty clearly planted by folks working dogs. I can't assess the birds that Roy Lowe mentioned in an earlier post. Paul T. Sullivan From tjanzen at attbi.com Tue Jan 14 01:18:04 2003 From: tjanzen at attbi.com (Tim Janzen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Northern Bobwhites wild in Oregon? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Paul, The OBRC has not taken Northern Bobwhite off the official Oregon list as of yet. The status of this species has been superficially discussed at some of the past several OBRC annual meetings, but it was thought by most committee members present at the meetings that there was still a stable population near Nyssa. However, this may well not be the case if as Dave Lawrence has stated that there is not even a stable population anywhere in SW Idaho at the present time. Obviously, more careful investigation needs to be undertaken to see if there is indeed a remnant population left anywhere near Nyssa and also to see if the population that Roy Lowe referred to near Nestucca Bay and Neskowin is still present. The following is the summary for N. Bobwhite found on the Oregon Breeding Bird Atlas CD: "Despite several reports of birds seen or heard, this species was not confirmed nesting in Oregon during the atlas project. It is uncertain which of the populations shown on the range map are naturally self-sustaining, and which are sustained mostly from periodic release of captive birds. Historically, thousands of individuals of this species were introduced statewide, but few local populations have persisted. Notable are the records from northern Malheur County and the Oregon coast." This summary seems to be an accurate statement of the status of this species in Oregon. Of interest is the fact that Range Bayer found a bird or birds calling on territory on two or more days in 1996 in the hexagon where Neskowin and Nestucca Bay are located. There was also a sighting of Northern Bobwhites near Brogan in northern Malheur Co. by Gerard Lillie on July 13, 1997. Sincerely, Tim Janzen Portland -----Original Message----- From: Paul T. Sullivan [mailto:ptsulliv@spiritone.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:19 PM To: Obol Subject: [obol] Northern Bobwhites wild in Oregon? OBOL: I believe the OBRC has taken Northern Bobwhite off the official Oregon list. They don't believe there are any viable, wild populations in the state. At least that is my understanding of things. When I lived in Pendleton, 1988-1990, I searched for this species, since that area was supposed to be the last redoubt of a viable population. I finally found a lone calling male near the Umatilla River in the east end of town. Then as I explored the neighborhood I heard the call again, coming from a backyard. I met the resident of the house, a retired gentleman who had incubators and pens, and raised orphaned Gray Partridge that local farmers brought him when they cut their wheat. He also raised Bobwhites..... Later I found a couple Bobwhites south of McKay NWR reservoir in the summer. I knocked on the door of the nearest house and was told that the neighbors gave their little girls "chicks" for Easter. Those chicks had grown up to be Bobwhites and were let go when the children tired of them..... I've seen Bobwhites near the Enterprise Fish Hatchery that were so tame you could almost pet them..... Clearly there are folks out there who raise and release these birds with some frequency in various places. The Sauvie Island birds are pretty clearly planted by folks working dogs. I can't assess the birds that Roy Lowe mentioned in an earlier post. Paul T. Sullivan From khs at teleport.com Tue Jan 14 05:19:59 2003 From: khs at teleport.com (Karen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <00a501c2bbcf$a3a7c220$1402a8c0@qwest.net> unsubscribe obol -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030114/dd1d501b/attachment.htm From jgeier at attglobal.net Tue Jan 14 07:22:19 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhites, grass-seed farms and "pesticides" Message-ID: <3E242B2B.BB268ECA@attglobal.net> Hello birders, I find the discussion of Bobwhites interesting. For the record, the last "wild" one I saw was a male up on top of the gamebird display pens at E.E. Wilson Wildlife Area, where there was a female inside the wire. However, I'd like to suggest a reality check on this statement: > I don't imagine the increased use of pesticides and the scorched-earth practices > of grass-seed farmers has helped any bird populations, either. In an > alternate Oregon, that had no invasive egg-eaters and no pesticides, > Bobwhites might have persisted. Aside from the rather oddly placed ecological concern (i.e. preservation of an introduced species), I wonder what is meant by the word "pesticides," a loaded term which usually refers to insecticides, nematicides, and rodenticides. In seven years of living on a Willamette Valley grass-seed farm, I have yet to see any of the local farmers use any of these types of chemicals. As we have kids, these folks make a habit of stopping by to let us know what they're spreading. And yes, having a farming background as well as graduate coursework in how organic chemical contaminants move through the environment, I guess I know how to read the boxes for myself. I suppose the phrase "scorched-earth practices" as referring to field burning, which has been greatly reduced in recent years (I can count on one hand the number of fields in our neighborhood that have been burned in the last 7 years), and perhaps the clearing of brushy field borders which I'd agree is still a problem. The grass-seed farmers I know do use chemical fertilizers, herbicides, and fungicides. The last are applied infrequently (less than annually), to suppress a rust fungus that can result in empty seed heads. Reading the Capital Press, I have heard of insecticides being used in some parts of the Willamette Valley to control infestations of European craneflies, another introduced species which thankfully has not shown up in our neighborhood yet. I also know of one ag-chemical company that is pushing the use of zinc oxide pellets as a rodenticide, and has obtained a special waiver from the EPA for marketing this for vole control in the Willamette Valley in the summer months. In their ad campaign they are hyping a supposed recent boom in the vole population (maybe the one 3-4 years ago, which already crashed?). I have not yet heard of any grass-seed farmers who are going for this advertising push. Perhaps this is something that concerned birders could more productively be tracking. As typical for the ag industry, the push for using this product is coming from the manufacturers, not the farmers, and at this stage I doubt if any farmers would care if the EPA waiver was stopped. Insectivorous birds seem to be doing pretty well in the grass fields around our place. Covering a couple hundred acres of grass fields on the recent Airlie CBC I came up 85 WESTERN MEADOWLARKS, 29 HORNED LARKS (most if not all "Streaked" form), 105 SAVANNAH SPARROWS, and scads of AMERICAN ROBINS. Yesterday about 300-500 RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS were out in one of those fields. AMERICAN KESTRELS are lined up all along roadsides in grass-seed fields. Our DOMESTIC CHICKENS go out in the fields to scratch every day, and we have not seen one drop dead yet. STARLINGS seem to do fine in grass fields too, although they like the Coffin Butte landfill better. While some birders may be amazed to hear that some grass-seed farmers actually are interested in the environment (there is even one on the board of National Audubon, although I'm not sure that will set off squeals of happiness among Portland Auduboners these days), the real saving factor is economics. Pesticides are mighty expensive, both to buy and to handle. For an economically marginal crop like grass seed (in today's market), farmers are highly motivated to limit their expenditures on chemicals. This helps to keep pesticide use down. The same is not true for suburban areas, where the marginal cost of applying pesticides on a few hundred square yards is not an obstacle for the average yard owner. As a consequence, they often dump these toxins on at a rate far in excess of the manufacturer's recommendations. A University of Idaho study a few years back found that an astonishing proportion of non-point-source pollution from herbicides and pesticides was coming from urban/suburban areas along the Boise River, rather than from farmland. I'm always amazed to see the huge stockpiles of pesticides on sale in those giant suburban "home improvement" centers. Who knows where this stuff is ending up? Last summer while walking through the woods at Luckiamute Landing greenway along the Willamette River, I found an unused, giant-sized can of Ortho Hornet and Wasp Killer -- "Kills at 20 feet!" -- that someone apparently left behind on a weekend fishing trip. That's what I'd call gratuitous use of pesticides. So, if you're worried about effects of pesticides on Bobwhites and/or native birds, you might want to invest that energy in talking to owners of suburban yards and those semiurban 5 & 10-acre estates that are popping up all around valley cities. Those places, if managed for wildlife rather than for the "chem-lawn" look, could provide thousands of acres of habitat for native birds. However, I'd be willing to bet the purchase value of all the cans of insecticide we inherited from the previous residents (not to mention the several gallons of "stump killer" they left in the shed -- the guy was an arborist), that suburban yards and semiurban acreages are the sources of the most concentrated pesticide contamination in the state. Beyond that, I find it surprising that use of pesticides is rarely mentioned with respect to major Willamette Valley ag crops other than grass seed. Vineyard owners and hazelnut & cherry orchardists no doubt use insecticides much more regularly than grass-seed farmers. I cannot think of the last time I saw much of anything other than crows and starlings in one of those places. OK, Scrub Jays will use orchards, and I once saw a meadowlark fly into a vineyard by accident, after I flushed it from a roadside. Roy Gerig sometimes finds wintering Chipping Sparrows around the edges of nut orchards, and when the river floods you can find nice duck flocks swimming around between the trees. But let's face it, there have been precious few OBOL reports of birds from vineyards and nut orchards, compared with what is routinely reported from grass-seed farms -- Pacific Golden-Plover, Trumpeter Swans, Gyrfalcons, shrikes, Horned Larks, Lapland Longspurs, meadowlarks, Snow Buntings, etc., not to mention the more common goose flocks, Killdeer, Dunlin, and gulls ... and the odd wagtail here and there. Maybe it's time for me to post my "grass-seed bird" list again. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From 5hats at peak.org Tue Jan 14 09:34:35 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhites References: Message-ID: <000201c2bbf4$9a88dbf0$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> Steve, OBOL, I have noticed the same surge/decline of opossums here in the Coast Range. For about a dozen years I used to see them all the time, but I haven't seen even one for likely a couple of years. I also have noted what certainly seems to be a decline (based on over twenty years of data via daily records of birds seen or heard here on Thornton Creek) in numbers of Ruffed Grouse. Formerly quite common, they now have become decidedly uncommon to rare. And I don't think opossums had anything to do with the decline. Even through possums were for a time quite common, they never penetrated very far, at least not in numbers, into the deeper sections of Coast Range woodlands. However in the past ten years, there has been a tremendous increase in the bobcat population, which I suspect may have something to do with diminishing numbers of both opossums and grouse. However, during this same period there has been a strong upsurge in the population of Mountain Quail, which I attribute to the fact that there is an extensive acreage of clearcuts in the Coast Range. These clearcuts for the first five or six years of regrowth provide the ideal combination of abundant cover and the preferred feed (primarily trailing blackberry) for this species. Grouse, on the other hand, are more likely found in somewhat older mixed forest. They are seldom seen in clearcuts (unless along the edge) or in the nearly pure stands of young conifers planted on such sites. Every time I write a post like this I like to make an attempt to show that there are some landowners who are aware of these things and are therefore making an attempt to manage accordingly. Here on our farm, in addition to planting the cascara trees which are such an important food source for many birds, I am also making a serious attempt to save whatever wild crabapple trees that grow here. The fruit from these trees is one of the staples of the diet of Ruffed Grouse. Darrel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve McDonald" To: "Obol" Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: [obol] RE: Bobwhites > > In response to the aspect that was raised about Bobwhites having > survived Opossums in territory native to them both: When introduced > Opossums spread throughout the Willamette Valley, reaching my home in > Eugene in the early Sixties, they underwent a population explosion. > Limited only by encounters with vehicles and an occasional dog, they > reached numbers far beyond what existed in their natural homeland. > > I spent 2 1/2 years on wildlife refuges and other undeveloped rural > habitat in Alabama. There were numerous Bobwhites, which were the only > galinaceous bird regularly found. Although Opossums were common, their > population was much lower than it was here in the Willamette Valley in > the Sixties and Seventies. They obviously didn't put so much pressure > on quail nests in that region. > > It's typical for some invasive species to expand greatly in a new > territory and exploit the environment. Without the diseases, parasites > and predators of their homeland to control them, they go unchecked until > these things begin to catch up to them. I don't know if this is > indicitive of current Opossum numbers over all of Oregon, but for the > past ten years, I've been seeing fewer and fewer of them in every type > of area and as roadkill. I've seen only two near my home in the last > three years, but twenty-five years ago, I'd see several every evening. > My neighbors' little terrier used to kill an average of three per week > in their yard back then and they just kept coming. Is it coincidence > and unrelated, that the numbers of C. Pheasants and Ruffed Grouse on the > valley floor dropped to a small fraction of their previous levels during > the Sixties? > > Steve McDonald > > From malbirds at fmtc.com Tue Jan 14 13:22:56 2003 From: malbirds at fmtc.com (ekmarple) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Vale birds Message-ID: <000f01c2bc13$1db1fe80$a626bed8@v21ys> E OR, West of Vale OBOL is for recording birds seen - how about not seen? One day the yard was full of Junco's and now nothing!! I have been monitoring Idaho and they are reporting the same thing - only the locals are still here - even the House Sparrows aren't coming in to the feeders. Morning Doves are still in the corn field - they have stayed all winter. The Great Horned Owls are hooting, Maybe pairing? The Great Blue Heron that roost in the trees back of the house - let out some blood curding cries a couple of nights ago and haven't seen it since - can't image what would take on a GBH. Still having the much needed rain Marple From celata at pacifier.com Tue Jan 14 12:52:35 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Alderbrook feeder walk - 1/14/2003 Message-ID: <3E24788C.A3A71DB7@pacifier.com> I took walk through the feeder dense neighborhood in west Astoria known as Alderbrook today. You all may recall that last week the best I could do in this neighborhood was Fox Sparrows and juncos. Today a came across a flock of GOLDEN-CROWNED SPARROW around the feeder at Birch and 47th. OREGON JUNCOS began to appear from the shrubbery as I pished and soon so did a single adult, white-striped WHITE-THROATED SPARROW. I believe that brings the Clatsop Co count up to a threatening 4.... 20 Canada Goose 6 Mallard 12 Bufflehead 2 Ruddy Duck 1 Sharp-shinned Hawk 1 Virginia Rail 1 American Coot 1 Spotted Sandpiper 2 Northern Flicker 1 Hutton's Vireo 3 Western Scrub-Jay 15 American Crow 13 Black-capped Chickadee 9 Chestnut-backed Chickadee 8 Bushtit 4 Bewick's Wren 4 Winter Wren 1 Marsh Wren 12 Golden-crowned Kinglet 10 Ruby-crowned Kinglet 8 American Robin 1 Varied Thrush 30 European Starling 1 Townsend's Warbler 5 Spotted Towhee 16 Fox Sparrow 14 Song Sparrow 1 WHITE-THROATED SPARROW 1 White-crowned Sparrow 7 Golden-crowned Sparrow 40 Dark-eyed Junco 1 House Finch 39 House Sparrow Total number of species: 33 -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 14 13:34:23 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Linn Co. Pacific Golden Plover Message-ID: <20030114213423.33752.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com> Just returned from relocating the PACIFIC GOLDEN-PLOVER that Tom Snetsinger located on Sunday. The bird this time was not located in either of the locations that Tom posted. It was located WEST of the railroad tracks and just west of the railroad track sign. It was with in excess of 70 KILLDEER which were mostly hunkered down using the grass tufts in the field (south of the road surface) as wind barriers because of the cool breezy conditions this morning. The PAGP however was not hunkered down and it was standing pretty as you please no more than 75 feet off the Tangent Rd roadsurface. Nice bird, good to have it around for yet another winter :) Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 14 14:35:56 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com (J. Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Vermilion Flycatcher 1/14 Message-ID: <20030114223556.86845.qmail@web13609.mail.yahoo.com> Cliff Cordy and I drove to Woodburn this morning and observed the inimitable VERMILION FLYCATCHER at 9:15. Trent Bray and a birder from Washington (sorry I didn't get your name!) were there and Trent had his scope on the bird when we arrived. It was in the reeds at the southeast end of the pond north of the road. It's an easy walk on "non-golf-course" grass/moss/etc. from the parking area to that end of the pond. Jamie Simmons Corvallis woodpecker97330@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From newhouse at efn.org Tue Jan 14 14:58:50 2003 From: newhouse at efn.org (Bruce Newhouse) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Grass seed farms/pesticides: PLEASE DELETE NOW IF NOT INTERESTED! References: Message-ID: <3E24962A.52343272@efn.org> Hello, Joel et al.! (Joel, note that I highly respect all your fine work and postings for OBOL, but I may not be 100% with you on everything below -- we don't all have to always agree with each other, and that's OK). Apologies to all, as I think this may be a bit tangential for most OBOLite tastes, so please delete now if you are already feeling "tangentialized!" Below are a few, brief responses to the "can 'o worms." I'm going to hit only on a few of the points I thought most important. We've kinda been down this road before a year or two ago, but I think some of the points Joel put forth need at least some response. Joel Geier wrote: > ..... I wonder what is meant by the word "pesticides," a loaded term which usually > refers to insecticides, nematicides, and rodenticides. Personally, I think the term "pesticides" is "loaded" because we know it means "poisons," but are afraid to say that word -- we have been brainwashed to use by marketers to use the euphemism instead. (Would you eat your vegetables if you knew that "poisons" had been applied?) "Pesticides" is a softer term used to refer to poisons which are applied to kill "pests" -- be they animal, plant or vegetable (see http://www.pesticide.org/ or http://water.usgs.gov/pubs/circ/circ1161/nawqa91.8.html) Occasionally, in my experience, it seems to be used by some to apply only to animal poisons. > I suppose the phrase "scorched-earth practices" as referring to field burning, which > has been greatly reduced in recent years I easily could see the term being used to refer to the vast, yellow expanses of herbicided grass seed fields (scorched by chemicals) that I have seen in the Valley as well. > Insectivorous birds seem to be doing pretty well in the grass fields around our > place. I would submit that mere presence of birds does not indicate the overall quality of habitat: birds that need large, open habitats have little to no higher quality habitat left, so they have to make do. Their presence may be more related to them (birds) using the only open habitats available. For me, simply seeing birds (presence), also is not an indicator of a specific habitat attribute such as the absence of low-level toxics in the environment that may be affecting them in the long term. (E.g., pesticide residues may especially accumulate in predatory species, as DDT did in raptors in the past. See reference below.) I would be VERY interested in seeing data on how the ground nesters are doing in grass-seed fields (are they in fact population "sinks" which are harming populations?), and if there are any short or long term toxic effects to migrants or residents using these fields. (This article has some information about birds and pesticides: http://www.pesticide.org/birds.pdf ) > ..... A University of Idaho study a few years back found that an astonishing > proportion of non-point-source pollution from herbicides and pesticides was coming > from urban/suburban areas along the Boise River, rather than from farmland. > ... I'd be willing to bet...that suburban yards and semiurban acreages are the > sources of the most concentrated pesticide contamination in the state. I agree 100% that urban as well agriculture uses both are sources of pesticide (and other) pollution. However, here is what the USGS has to say about the Willamette Basin: "Of the six most frequently detected pesticides, all but diazinon were found at highest concentrations in predominantly agricultural streams." Source: http://water.usgs.gov/pubs/circ/circ1161/nawqa91.8.html (I hope I am not omitting any pertinent context.) > But let's face it, there have been precious few OBOL reports of birds from vineyards > and nut orchards, compared with what > is routinely reported from grass-seed farms -- Pacific Golden-Plover, Trumpeter > Swans, Gyrfalcons, shrikes, Horned > Larks, Lapland Longspurs, meadowlarks, Snow Buntings, etc., not to mention the more > common goose flocks, Killdeer, > Dunlin, and gulls ... and the odd wagtail here and there. Many (or the majority?) on that list, if I am not mistaken, are tundra birds wintering in the valley. I would expect them to winter in the most tundra-like landscapes (whatever the native/non-native/farmed composition of those landscapes), and not in areas with tall vegetation, but I could be mistaken. If we compared the shorter, year-round resident list above with the resident lists from orchards and vineyards, they might be comparable. (Or not -- I don't know. 'Course I don't think we have a "Joel" that lives adjacent to a vineyard or orchard who can pick out and report birds so well, either!) > Maybe it's time for me to post my "grass-seed bird" list again. My understanding (and I may be wrong) is that all those "wide open space" birds (migrants, and permanent and seasonal residents), go where they can find that open space, and there isn't much choice left in the Willamette Valley. Farmed, perennial grasses (tall fescue, perennial ryegrass, etc. -- " your lawn is growing here") are the main land use on the Willamette Valley floor (as illustrated on the ODFW habitat types map, and elsewhere). And if anyone knows of any research comparing bird populations on grass-seed farms vs. other croplands vs. pasture vs. native prairies, that certainly would be enlightening. (Although I think that was discussed on OBOL a bit before with rice farming and grass-seed fields, no?) I would need to see some convincing science before I could believe that herbiciding, plowing and other farming practices on grass seed farms didn't cause a net harm to birds. Respectfully, Bruce Newhouse in Eugene -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030114/ab2a1d3b/attachment.htm From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Tue Jan 14 15:43:20 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Merlin takes Varied Thrush Message-ID: <001301c2bc26$ba9fa900$6aaba43f@hppav> While at Tom Pearce County Park (east of Grants Pass, Josephine Co) today (01-14-03) I spotted a MERLIN on a fairly steep bank along the railroad tracks that had just grabbed a VARIED THRUSH. Within seconds, it took off to parts unknown with it. also saw 3 ANNA'S HUMMINGBIRDS there. Dennis (north of Grants Pass) From kirkpat at cdsnet.net Tue Jan 14 16:46:00 2003 From: kirkpat at cdsnet.net (Douglas Kirkpatrick) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Merlin takes Varied Thrush References: Message-ID: <002c01c2bc2f$7b8fed70$96a3a43f@YOUR2D639F6292> Hi, Obolonians, Speaking of VARIED THRUSH's, they just showed up (X3) in my yard in east Medford today for the first time in months... Doug Kirkpatrick > While at Tom Pearce County Park (east of Grants Pass, Josephine Co) today > (01-14-03) I spotted a MERLIN on a fairly steep bank along the railroad > tracks that had just grabbed a VARIED THRUSH. Within seconds, it took off > to parts unknown with it. > > also saw 3 ANNA'S HUMMINGBIRDS there. > > Dennis (north of Grants Pass) > > > From elepaio at neucomm.net Tue Jan 14 17:31:47 2003 From: elepaio at neucomm.net (elepaio@neucomm.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Pacific Loons + on Foster Res. Message-ID: <50411.162.58.35.200.1042594307.squirrel@webmail.neucomm.net> County Gyrfalcon I decided to head on up to Foster Res. outside of Sweethome to check on the Barrow's Goldeneye that winter below the dam. At least 50 BAROWS GOLDENEYE were present both below the dam and just above in the lake. There was alot of movement between the 2 sites so getting an accurate count was difficult. At least 7 COMMON GOLDENEYE were mixed in - these aren't found here every winter that I know of and when they are there are usuallyonly 1 to 3. 2 PACIFIC LOONS were seen in the middle of the lake but not together. The first was seen not far off the the Gedney boat ramp on the north side of the lake. LaterI saw another from the overlook opposite The Point restaurant on the south side of the lake and directly across from the Gedney ramp. The first loon was also visible from there still on the other side of the lake. Other intersesting birds scattered about the reservoir were an imm. GLAUCOUS-WINGED GULL, 4 WESTERN GREBES, and 6 HORNED GREBES. It was nice to see 2 adult BALD EAGLES fishing instead of feasting on lamb carcasses. NORTHERN SHRIKES seem to be much more common this winter than they were last year. I saw 4 SW of Brownsville near where the Gyr was seen - more than I saw all last winter in the county. I know of 3 other sites in the area hosting N Shrikes this winter also. Mark Nikas From celata at pacifier.com Tue Jan 14 18:15:36 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Rufous Hummingbirds migration Message-ID: <3E24C444.3074D203@pacifier.com> It's been a warmer than average winter (what with el Ni?o and all) which may mean early arrival for Rufous Hummingbirds in the Pacific Northwest. Even without el Ni?o Rufous Hummingbirds regularly arrive in soutern Oregon in the southern Oregon. So, what's my point? I will be webhosting annual hummingbird watch for the Pacific Northwest once again at: http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/humm/count.html Clean your feeder and get ready.... -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From celata at pacifier.com Tue Jan 14 18:25:49 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Rufous Hummingbirds migration References: Message-ID: <3E24C6A8.8D78DE7E@pacifier.com> Boy howdy, look what happens when you let a 4-year-old distract you just because she wants to fed.... Even without el Ni?o Rufous Hummingbirds regularly arrive in southern Oregon in the first week of February. I feel better now... Mike Patterson wrote: > > It's been a warmer than average winter (what with el Ni?o > and all) which may mean early arrival for Rufous Hummingbirds > in the Pacific Northwest. Even without el Ni?o Rufous > Hummingbirds regularly arrive in soutern Oregon in the southern > Oregon. > > So, what's my point? > > I will be webhosting annual hummingbird watch for the Pacific > Northwest once again at: > > http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/humm/count.html > > Clean your feeder and get ready.... > > -- > Mike Patterson > Astoria, OR > celata@pacifier.com > > A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him > hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness > that amazes those with ears who hear not. > > -Neltje Blanchan > > http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From acontrer at mindspring.com Tue Jan 14 19:15:21 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Change in OB field notes Message-ID: After discussions with various folks, Oregon Birds has decided to return to the regional field notes format that it used in the 1980s. This structure will go into effect with the SPRING 2003 reports, that is, birds reported after March 1. At that time we also hope to adopt a better way of identifying observers using a standard 3-letter code based on people's initials, so we don't have to make up and cross-proof new codes every issue, with different codes for eastern and western reports. We think that this approach will allow much better reporting of local records and trends and perk up the field notes, keeping them from becoming such a monster. There will be 9 reporting regions instead of 2. These will be as follows: North Coast: Clatsop, Tillamook and Lincoln Cos. South Coast: Curry, Coos and coastal Douglas and Lane Cos (west of Mapleton and Scottsburg, inclusive) Portland Metro: Columbia, Washington, Clackamas and Multnomah Cos. Willamette Basin: Yamhill, Marion, Polk, Benton, Linn and interior Lane Cos. Southwest: Douglas, Josephine and Jackson Cos. South Central: Klamath and Lake Cos. North Central: Deschutes, Crook, Jefferson, Wheeler, Sherman, Gilliam, Wasco, Hood River and possibly Grant Cos. Assignment of Grant is being discussed - we'd appreciate input from local observers. Southeast: Harney and Malheur Cos. Northeast: Umatilla, Morrow, Union, Wallowa, Baker and possibly Grant Cos. We will be seeking regional writers to prepare field notes for each of these regions for each issue of OB - shorter and more focused on local status than the current statewide pile. Please contact me if you are interested. I will be discussing these assignments with Ray Korpi and Steve Dowlan in the near future. There will be an overview written by a statewide writer for each issue, but the focus of OB will be more on local status than has been the case in recent years. For large-scale northwestern status, we recommend that birders subscribe to North American Birds, which includes an excellent Oregon-Washington report for each season. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From jgeier at attglobal.net Tue Jan 14 20:00:23 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Grass seed farms/pesticides: PLEASE DELETE NOW IF NOT INTERESTED! Message-ID: <3E24DCD7.68600346@attglobal.net> Bruce & all, This is not much about birds but just trying to adress a few points, which perhaps we should take off-line if we want to go further. Bruce as usual raises some good points, and it appears that what I normally think of as "pesticides" is the narrower definition than the general one used by the EPA & USGS. However, I doubt anyone thinks of "pesticide" as a "soft" term for poisons. E.g., would anyone here buy a bunch of carrots in the store if the sign above them said, "Raised with pesticides" ? I think not. If you asked someone on the street to name a "pesticide," my guess is that the first one to come to mind would be DDT. As in Bruce's example: "pesticide residues may especially accumulate in predatory species, as DDT did in raptors in the past." The tendency in talking about pesticides and birds is usually to comapare with DDT (an insecticide). My suggestion is that it is still worth talking about the different categories -- insecticide vs. herbicides etc. -- in more specific terms. Yes, birds might be affected by low level concentrations of these chemicals over the long term even if they do not drop dead in the field. Whether this has anything to do with the disppearance of Bobwhites, and whether the grass-seed industry is the main culprit to blame ... well I have my doubts. There may be other good reasons for trying to reduce levels of these chemicals in the environment. The distinction between wintering habitat for "tundra" birds and nesting habitat is a fair one. There are other aspects of the grass-seed industry that are unfavorable to nesting birds, relative to the ideal circumstance of native grassland savanna. However, it will take some work to convince me that the grass-seed industry is necessarily worse in that regard than ag industries that use chemicals more intensively, and which leave most of the ground surface nearly entirely barren (thinking of nut orchards and vineyards here, for instance). I do think that the quote from the USGS report on Willamette Valley water quality does need a bit of context to be understood. In fact, if we take the factual statements in the report but look at them from a slightly different angle than the authors did, while keeping track of the distinction between insecticides and herbicides, it looks like we really ought to be more concerned about urban pesticide use than a quick reading of this report might suggest. If you add geographic context, you furthermore can see that the stream that comes out worst in the report is not in the main grass-seed farming belt, which leads me to suggest again that we may be barking at the wrong sector of the ag industry. Here goes (my comments are noted in between chunks of text from the USGS report): > Here is what the USGS has to say about the Willamette Basin: > "Of the six most frequently detected pesticides, all but > diazinon were found at highest concentrations in predominantly > agricultural streams." > Source: http://water.usgs.gov/pubs/circ/circ1161/nawqa91.8.html Criteria for the protection of freshwater aquatic life from chronic toxicity were exceeded for 10 pesticides in streams: atrazine (4 of 183 detections) - herbicide azinphos-methyl (3 of 3 detections) - insecticide carbaryl (17 of 46 detections) - insecticide carbofuran (3 of 51 detections) - insecticide chlorpyrifos (4 of 65 detections) - insecticide diazinon (66 of 105 detections) - insecticide p,p'-DDE (6 of 8 detections) - insecticide diuron (24 of 83 detections) - herbicide lindane (1 of 13 detections) - insecticide malathion (1 of 12 detections) - insecticide MY COMMENT: Note that most of the "pesticides" for which criteria for protection of aquatic life were exceeded are insecticides, and these account for 75% of the exceedences. Thus insecticides are the the leading concern. Diazinon (insecticide) shows up as far and away the most serious problem on this list, exceeding these criteria in 66(!) instances, more than all of the other pesticides combined. -- Most of the pesticides detected in streams and ground water were herbicides. Most commonly detected pesticides in stream water were: atrazine - herbicide simazine - herbicide metolachlor - herbicide deethylatrazine - herbicide diuron - herbicide diazinon - insecticide Diazinon concentrations were similar in agricultural and urban streams. MY COMMENTS: Note that the only one of these pesticides that is an insecticide shows up in similar concentrations in ag and urban streams. This is diazinon, which as noted above is the one that accounts for MOST of the chronic-toxicity exceedances, all on its own. Atrazine was the most commonly detected herbicide, but exceeded those criteria in only a small fraction of detections. The 2nd through 4th most commonly detected herbicides do not even show up on the exceedence list above. Unfortunately this report, by focusing mostly on relatively low-toxicity herbicides, does not tell us as much as it could about the other insecticides that exceed chronic-toxicity criteria. A further problem with applying this report for the question we have been discussing here is that the whole-stream-basin sampling approach does not discriminate between residential and agricultural inputs. Rural residential, semi-rural residential, and suburban residential inputs could still be significant even in basins where land use is predominantly agricultural. The authors have tried to make a stab at this through regression analysis of basin-wide data, but a much more detailed study (e.g. sampling upstream and downstream of residential areas, as I believe was done in the Idaho study) is needed to make more definitive statements about these different inputs. -- In one sample each, atrazine and simazine exceeded their maximum contaminant levels (MCLs) as established by the USEPA (U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, 1996) for protection of drinking water. Although the stream where the exceedances occurred (Zollner Creek, northeast of Salem) was not used as a drinking water source, the MCLs are widely accepted criteria for comparing concentrations. ... Forty-nine pesticides were detected in streams draining predominantly agricultural land. Forty-three of these pesticides were found in Zollner Creek, which has a drainage basin that is 99 percent agricultural. MY COMMENT: Zollner Creek, apparently the worst contaminated creek in this study and the ONLY creek found to exceed EPA maximum contaminant levels, drains uplands NE of Mt. Angel and SE of Woodburn. This is not the heart of the grass seed industry. Someone with better knowledge of this area may want to chime in, but as I recall from the few times I have been in this area, this area has a high proportion of hops, orchards, and nursery farms. If this is correct, we should be looking at pesticide use in these ag industries first, rather than the grass-seed industry. -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Tue Jan 14 22:45:22 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur, yes - Jan. 14 Message-ID: <000701c2bc61$c61f8800$94c063d8@pauls> Cattlemen call cattle without horns "polled." This morning I found Polled Larks -- weather conditions wouldn't let me see Horned Larks. I went out to N. Lombard Ave in Portland near Ramsey Lake this morning to the Port of Portland fill site, arriving about 8 AM. From Lombard I could not see the pile of dirt others have called "Diamond Head." The FOG was so dense that I had to walk half way to the pile before I saw it. I heard the Polled Larks and saw shapes flying in the mist. I had little hope of finding the McCown's Longspur, but I walked around the tilled, sandy fill in pursuit of the sounds anyway. I got to add Horned Larks to my Multnomah county tally. I was walking back toward my car (I think it is in that direction...) when I found the McCOWN'S LONGSPUR at 8:48! I was able to study it for 12 minutes from as close as 30 yds with my Kowa scope. Nice bird! Paul T. Sullivan From marknebeker at msn.com Wed Jan 15 05:57:02 2003 From: marknebeker at msn.com (MARK NEBEKER) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur, yes - Jan. 14 and NO References: Message-ID: OBOL, I accompanied a Seattle birder at the site for about an hour and a half with no luck. We looked at every horned lark out there. As we head out a private security person pointed out the No Trespassing sign and politely informed us that we could not be in area behind the sign. Mark Nebeker Portland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul T. Sullivan" To: "Obol" Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:45 PM Subject: [obol] McCown's Longspur, yes - Jan. 14 > OBOL: > > Cattlemen call cattle without horns "polled." This morning I found Polled > Larks -- weather conditions wouldn't let me see Horned Larks. > > I went out to N. Lombard Ave in Portland near Ramsey Lake this morning to > the Port of Portland fill site, arriving about 8 AM. From Lombard I could > not see the pile of dirt others have called "Diamond Head." The FOG was so > dense that I had to walk half way to the pile before I saw it. > > I heard the Polled Larks and saw shapes flying in the mist. I had little > hope of finding the McCown's Longspur, but I walked around the tilled, sandy > fill in pursuit of the sounds anyway. I got to add Horned Larks to my > Multnomah county tally. > > I was walking back toward my car (I think it is in that direction...) when I > found the McCOWN'S LONGSPUR at 8:48! I was able to study it for 12 minutes > from as close as 30 yds with my Kowa scope. Nice bird! > > Paul T. Sullivan > From dflaming at spiritone.com Wed Jan 15 07:47:09 2003 From: dflaming at spiritone.com (Dave Flaming) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Prescott Bluebird Recovery Project Monitor Training, February 22, 2003 Message-ID: <000001c2bcad$5eeab780$8bc663d8@David> If you would relish the opportunity to keep an eye on the nests of Western Bluebirds, the Prescott Bluebird Recovery Project needs you! If you are willing to commit 3-4 hours a week from early April until late August, you can join a group of dedicated volunteers who are helping save this vulnerable species. To become a bluebird monitor, you need to attend the monitor training session which will be held at Champoeg State Heritage Area on Saturday, February 22, 2003. The session which lasts from 9:00am to noon will focus on the skills you need to be a bluebird nest box monitor. Not only will you learn about bluebirds and what you can do to help them, but you will receive a notebook with wonderful materials to assist you. If you plan to attend, please leave a message on Prescott?s recorded line (503-245-8449). If you can?t attend the training session but would like to volunteer, leave a message to that affect and someone will get back to you. If you would like to learn more or obtain directions to Champoeg State Heritage Area, check out our web site at www.prescottbluebird.com From Arkaeoptrx at aol.com Wed Jan 15 12:49:19 2003 From: Arkaeoptrx at aol.com (Arkaeoptrx@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Recent chase snaps Message-ID: <103.24611f01.2b57234f@aol.com> Birders - Here are a few pictures I took of each of these species (MCCOWN'S LONGSPUR & VERMILLION FLYCATCHER). ?The distance to object, weather and lighting conditions were not on my side. ?The McCown's pictures are not good, but I think are diagnostic, showing the wide supercillium, white eye ring, and large pinkish bill. ?The Vermillion photos are fine but are not my best work. ?Enjoy. Good Birding, Trent Bray La Grande, OR arkaeoptrx@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <3261940359.1042644025@[10.212.201.154]> Was wondering if anyone has been checking this winter for Long-billed Murrelets? Haven't seen a single report. Tom Love tlove@linfield.edu From jgeier at attglobal.net Wed Jan 15 16:38:32 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: One of those days at Luckiamute Landing, Polk County Message-ID: <3E25FF08.7C02B6A@attglobal.net> Hello birders, Here's a report from Luckiamute Landing greenway, along the Willamette and Luckiamute Rivers in SE Polk County. The SWAMP SPARROW reported by Roy Gerig a few days ago was still in the same spot, but it took a while to sift through all those SONG SPARROWS. There were also quite a few LINCOLN'S SPARROWS in the tree plantings east of the parking area, and some LESSER GOLDFINCHES as Roy also reported. I found two WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS by the "lone cottonwood" where Roy found the one, and then saw another in with GOLDEN-CROWNED SPARROWS and JUNCOS right where the access road turns from gravel to tar on the way out. So there are at least three WTSPs there for Polk County, probably more than that. I have probably underestimated most of the sparrow numbers in the report below. The level of sparrow activity was as good as I've seen anywhere, anytime. Woodpeckers were also active in good numbers; the most fun was a group of HAIRY WOODPECKERS, DOWNY WOODPECKERS and RED-BREASTED SAPSUCKERS feeding side-by-side and squabbling in cottonwoods and maples, along the trail through the woods. The most intriguing bird of the day was a possible TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE (?) heard repeatedly, but not seen, calling from the far side of the Willamette River near the Marion/Linn Co. line. It took me awhile to place these familiar-sounding calls as I haven't heard one since the Antone CBC, but I think that's what it was. There is really no way to get in there from the east side of the river, so far as I know. For anyone who hasn't been to Luckimaute Landing in a while, the road is infinitely better than it was last winter. A couple of potholes right by the bridge by the entrance are the only ones on the whole road. OPRD is really making progress on this place now. Good birding, Joel This report was mailed for Joel Geier by http://birdnotes.net Date: January 15, 2003 Location: Luckiamute Landing, Polk County, Oregon Long walk around open areas (moving counter-clockwise), then along trail through woods all the way to the campground and back, about 4 miles total, 12:30 to 3 PM. Overcast throughout this time; birds very active. The rivers have gone down a lot since the Airlie CBC, and are now back in their banks -- only a few puddles to skirt, no more wading! Birds seen (in taxonomic order): Great Blue Heron 1 Canada Goose 30 American Wigeon Mallard 1 Northern Pintail 30 BALD EAGLE 1 adult Cooper's Hawk 1 adult female Red-tailed Hawk 2 Killdeer 15 Belted Kingfisher 2 Red-breasted Sapsucker 2 Downy Woodpecker 5 at least! Hairy Woodpecker 4 at least! Northern Flicker 2 Steller's Jay 6 Western Scrub-Jay 2 Black-capped Chickadee 25 Bushtit 15 Brown Creeper 4 Bewick's Wren 7 Winter Wren 5 MARSH WREN 3 Golden-crowned Kinglet 30 Ruby-crowned Kinglet 15 HERMIT THRUSH 1 American Robin 2 Varied Thrush 2 Spotted Towhee 5 Savannah Sparrow 2 Fox Sparrow 20 didn't try hard Song Sparrow 180 at least. LINCOLN'S SPARROW 5+ SWAMP SPARROW 1 WHITE-THROATED SPARROW 3 White-crowned Sparrow 5 Golden-crowned Sparrow 40 Dark-eyed Junco 80 Brewer's Blackbird 6 vocalizing. House Finch 15 Lesser Goldfinch 12 at least. Total number of species seen: 41 -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From winkg at hevanet.com Wed Jan 15 16:43:38 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: OBOL: Pittock, NW Portland, week ending 1/15/03 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030115163312.021476f8@pop.hevanet.com> Here is the summary of my morning dogwalks from NW Seblar Terrace to the Pittock Mansion for the week 1/9 to 1/15/03. Species in ALL CAPS were neither seen nor heard the previous week. Additional information about my dogwalk may be found at http://www.hevanet.com/winkg/dogwalkpage.html We did the walk 5 days this week: 1/9, 10 and 1/13-15 Species # days found (peak #, date) Double-crested Cormorant 1 (1, 1/9) Canada Goose 3 (10, 1/10) BALD EAGLE 1 (1 ad, 1/9) Red-tailed Hawk 2 (1, 1/9 & 14) Gull sp. 1 (1, 1/9) BAND-TAILED PIGEON 2 (2, 1/10) Mourning Dove 3 (6, 1/13) Anna's Hummingbird 5 (3, 1/14) Red-breasted Sapsucker 2 (1, 1/10 & 14) Northern Flicker 4 (4, 1/13) Golden-crowned Kinglet 3 (35, 1/15) Ruby-crowned Kinglet 4 (3, 1/15) Bewick's Wren 2 (2, 1/15) Winter Wren 5 (5, 1/15) American Robin 5 (35, 1/15) Varied Thrush 5 (6) Bushtit 4 (30, 1/13) Black-capped Chickadee 5 (30, 1/15) Chestnut-backed Chickadee 5 (20, 1/15) Red-breasted Nuthatch 5 (6, 1/15) Brown Creeper 2 (2, 1/10) Steller's Jay 5 (14, 1/13) Western Scrub-Jay 1 (2, 1/15) American Crow 3 (6, 1/15) European Starling 3 (10, 1/15) Hutton's Vireo 1 (1, 1/15) Spotted Towhee 5 (11, 1/13) Song Sparrow 5 (25) Dark-eyed Junco 5 (20) House Finch 5 (20) Pine Siskin 2 (55, 1/9) In neighborhood but not found on dogwalk: GREAT HORNED OWL Misses (birds found at least 3 days during the previous 2 weeks but not found this week): Sharp-shinned Hawk, Downy Woodpecker(!), Hairy Woodpecker, Fox Sparrow From larmcqueen at msn.com Wed Jan 15 17:18:44 2003 From: larmcqueen at msn.com (Larry McQueen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Bobwhite question Message-ID: <002b01c2bcfd$3677e4d0$0200000a@newcomputer> Aside from predators (mammalian, avian, and reptilian), environmental disturbances, and perhaps just mal-adaptation, has anyone wondered about competition as reason for the failure of the Bobwhite to populate this area? One of the few differences between western Oregon and areas within the normal range of the Bobwhite, is the presence of another quail species. Could the phenomenal success of California Quail in Oregon be the cause of the Bobwhite's troubles? I assume the California Quail had a good head start in the region, which is also practically contiguous with it's natural range. Has anyone seen any interaction between these two species in nature? Larry McQueen From stukar at teleport.com Wed Jan 15 17:46:31 2003 From: stukar at teleport.com (Karen & Stuart Sparkman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Baskett Slough Gyrfalcon Message-ID: <001d01c2bd03$a8af2f80$e7131ad8@k1o8q2> I thought others might want to know that Carol Karlen (and Pat Tilley?) reported seeing the GYRFALCON again at Baskett Slough yesterday. The last time I heard about it being around was about a month ago. They said it was dive-bombing a perched BALD EAGLE, then disappeared off toward Dallas. Karen Sparkman Salem stukar@teleport.com From pat2ly at attbi.com Wed Jan 15 18:26:01 2003 From: pat2ly at attbi.com (Patricia Tilley) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Vermillion Flycatcher--Yes Message-ID: The Vermillion Flycatcher was present on the Woodburn golf course this afternoon at 3:45PM. He was at the first pond on the south side of Hazelnut Dr. Pat Tilley Salem From rbayer at orednet.org Wed Jan 15 21:10:35 2003 From: rbayer at orednet.org (Range Bayer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Snow Buntings at Sand Lake Message-ID: Hi, Anson Koehler saw 7 Snow Buntings, (3 male 4 female) 1/2 mile north of Sand Lake on the shore at about 10:00 AM on January 15. Cheers! Range Bayer From festuca at olywa.net Wed Jan 15 21:18:48 2003 From: festuca at olywa.net (Jon. Anderson and Marty Chaney) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: AD for Bander & Long-term Volunteer - B.C. Message-ID: <000501c2bd1e$c1039060$f23d2a40@festuca> Hi folks, Saw the following message on the Bird-Band list, and thought that I'd pass this on in case someone on Tweeters/OBOL might be interested. What Fun!! Banding birds in northern B.C.!! Weird "eastern" flycatchers and warblers and vireos and stuff!! Wish I could go..... Please contact Dr. Lambie at the addresses below. Jon. Anderson Olympia, Wash. festuca@olywa.net ****************************************** Subject: AD for Bander & Long-term Volunteer From: "The Lambie's" Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:28:27 -0800 Job/Volunteer opportunities for Birders at Mackenzie, British Columbia, Canada Mackenzie Nature Observatory is accepting applications for a bander-in-charge and volunteer assistants for the Mugaha Marsh, Latitude 55? 23', Longitude 123? 12', banding station for the fall 2003 season. Mugaha Marsh is 14 km northwest of Mackenzie. Mackenzie is located in the Rocky Mountain Trench in north central BC, approx. 120 miles North of Prince George, BC. A 12 x 20 building serves as our banding lab. Two small travel trailers provide accommodations. Although we have hydropower to the site, we do not have running water so it is necessary to go to Mackenzie for showers and to do laundry, but drinking water is brought to the site on a regular basis by local volunteers. In consideration of individuals with allergies please do not bring yours pets Being located on a wetland we do get a fair number of mosquitoes, fortunately there has been no incidences of the West Nile Virus in our area. We are in bear country and occasionally one will show up at the station. Positions available: Bander-in-charge: One qualified bander is needed for the full season from July 20 - September 21. The Bander needs to be experienced in banding and capable of operating 12 mistnets for the migration station. Knowledge of western species is needed. In 2002 we averaged 46.9 birds per day and in most seasons we have had a few 100+ days. In 2002, as in previous years, we banded 6 species of flycatchers [(ALFL, LEFL, DUFL, HAFL, YBFL, WEFL) 1st 4 of which were in good numbers] so good knowledge of flycatchers will be required. The bander must have experience and enjoy working with volunteers. Duties include, following the Mackenzie Nature Observatory's protocol for Migration Monitoring: on a daily basis doing a 1 hour census, casual observations, compiling ET's, and computerizing the daily data. Writing up a year-end report will be required as well. Bander-in-charge is paid on a contract basis at a rate of $120 Canadian per day. Long-term Volunteers: We require one volunteer for the full season and a second for the first six weeks. We understand that many who would like to volunteer may have restrictions on the amount of time they can come for therefore we ask that you give us your first and second choices of the time periods listed below. Requirements: Above all you need the ability to get along with others and you must have a willingness to learn. Banding experience and knowledge of Western Birds are an asset. Duties: To assist the bander-in-charge Long-term volunteers are provided with a living allowance of $20 Canadian per day. Times preferred: _______ Full Season July 20 - Sept 21 _______ Six weeks July 22 - Sept 1 Three weeks: _______ July 20 - Aug 9 _______ Aug 10 - Aug. 30 _______ Aug. 31 - Sept 20 Two weeks: _______ July 20 - Aug 2 _______ Aug 3 - Aug 16 _______ Aug 17 - Aug 30 _______ Aug 31 - Sept 13 NOTE: When applying be sure to indicate whether you are applying for the bander-in-charge OR the long-term volunteer position. Deadline for applications is April 20, 2003 Please send your resume to the mailing address below or by email: Lambie@uniserve.com The Bird Committee c/o Mackenzie Nature Observatory Box 1598 Mackenzie, BC V0J 2C0 Canada subscription options and posting rules can be found at the BirdBand web site: http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/6549/birdband.htm From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Wed Jan 15 22:50:41 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Change in OB field notes References: Message-ID: <004501c2bd2b$c4a53540$84c063d8@pauls> Alan, 4 questions: Who decided this? Why? Who will carry it out? How? Oregon Birds Vol. 28, No. 3 (with the Calliope Hummingbird on the cover) appeared last week at Audubon Society of Portland bookstore. It looks good. I compliment Greg Gilson and Dennis Vroman on fine articles, and the photographers who are featured. I compliment Steve Dowlan on getting the publication back on schedule. I look forward to seeing Vol. 28, No. 4, when it arrives. Paul T. Sullivan > Subject: Change in OB field notes > From: Alan Contreras > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:15:21 -0800 > X-Message-Number: 15 > > After discussions with various folks, Oregon Birds has decided to return to > the regional field notes format that it used in the 1980s. This structure > will go into effect with the SPRING 2003 reports, that is, birds reported > after March 1. > > At that time we also hope to adopt a better way of identifying observers > using a standard 3-letter code based on people's initials, so we don't have > to make up and cross-proof new codes every issue, with different codes for > eastern and western reports. > > We think that this approach will allow much better reporting of local > records and trends and perk up the field notes, keeping them from becoming > such a monster. > > There will be 9 reporting regions instead of 2. These will be as follows: > > North Coast: Clatsop, Tillamook and Lincoln Cos. > > South Coast: Curry, Coos and coastal Douglas and Lane Cos (west of Mapleton > and Scottsburg, inclusive) > > Portland Metro: Columbia, Washington, Clackamas and Multnomah Cos. > > Willamette Basin: Yamhill, Marion, Polk, Benton, Linn and interior Lane Cos. > > Southwest: Douglas, Josephine and Jackson Cos. > > South Central: Klamath and Lake Cos. > > North Central: Deschutes, Crook, Jefferson, Wheeler, Sherman, Gilliam, > Wasco, Hood River and possibly Grant Cos. Assignment of Grant is being > discussed - we'd appreciate input from local observers. > > Southeast: Harney and Malheur Cos. > > Northeast: Umatilla, Morrow, Union, Wallowa, Baker and possibly Grant Cos. > > We will be seeking regional writers to prepare field notes for each of these > regions for each issue of OB - shorter and more focused on local status than > the current statewide pile. Please contact me if you are interested. I > will be discussing these assignments with Ray Korpi and Steve Dowlan in the > near future. > > There will be an overview written by a statewide writer for each issue, but > the focus of OB will be more on local status than has been the case in > recent years. For large-scale northwestern status, we recommend that > birders subscribe to North American Birds, which includes an excellent > Oregon-Washington report for each season. > > > -- > Alan Contreras > Eugene, Oregon > From hnehls at teleport.com Wed Jan 15 23:31:46 2003 From: hnehls at teleport.com (Harry Nehls) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: FW: Dean Amadon Message-ID: Harry Nehls Portland, OR 503-233-3976 ---------- From: curlew@casco.net To: hnehls@teleport.com Subject: Re:Dean Amadon Date: Wed, Jan 15, 2003, 10:43 PM Hi Harry: I'm no longer subscribed to OBOL. I'd appreciate it if you would post that Dean Amadon died last Sunday, at the age of 90. As you know, he was an authority on Birds of Prey and former Lamont Curator of Birds at The American Museum of Natural History in New York City - an awfully nice man. There is a write-up of his accomplishments, under Orbituaries, in tomorrow's (Thursday's) New York Times. Sheila S. B. Fitzpatrick Philomath, OR 97370 curlew@casco.net From hnehls at teleport.com Wed Jan 15 23:47:54 2003 From: hnehls at teleport.com (Harry Nehls) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: RBA: Portland, Or 1-16-03 Message-ID: - RBA * Oregon * Portland * January 16, 2003 * ORPO0301.16 - birds mentioned Pacific Loon Common Goldeneye Barrow's Goldeneye Gyrfalcon Pacific Golden-Plover Killdeer Burrowing Owl VERMILION FLYCATCHER BLUE JAY Palm Warbler MCCOWN'S LONGSPUR Snow Bunting - transcript hotline: Portland Oregon Audubon RBA (weekly) number: 503-292-6855 to report: Harry Nehls 503-233-3976 compiler: Harry Nehls coverage: entire state Hello, this is the Audubon Society of Portland Rare Bird Report. This report was made Thursday January 16. If you have anything to add call Harry Nehls at 503-233-3976. The North Portland MCCOWN'S LONGSPUR continues to be see. The Woodburn VERMILION FLYCATCHER also is still being seen as are the Florence, Springfield, and Bend BLUE JAYS. A group of seven SNOW BUNTINGS was near Sand Lake, south of Tillamook January 15. A PALM WARBLER briefly visited a Beaverton back yard January 9. Good comparisons could be made January 12 between individual female BARROW'S and COMMON GOLDENEYES at the Willamina Sewage Ponds. The Baskett Slough NWR GYRFALCON was seen again January 15. Another was near Shedd, north of Halsey January 13. On January 12 a PACIFIC GOLDEN-PLOVER was among a flock of KILLDEER near the junction of Country and Tangent Drive, east of Corvallis. A SNOW BUNTING was northwest of Halsey January 9. Two BURROWING OWLS were along nearby Blueberry Road the next day. On January 14 two PACIFIC LOONS and 50 BARROW'S GOLDENEYES were on Foster Reservoir east of Sweet Home. Thats it for this week. - end transcript From Di4tbirds at aol.com Thu Jan 16 08:10:15 2003 From: Di4tbirds at aol.com (Di4tbirds@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Finley NWR Message-ID: <126.1fc280e8.2b583367@aol.com> OBOLers, Serveral Eugene birders made a trip to Finley yesterday to be treated to a fantastic bird show. The highlight of the trip was the 6 raptor species: Peregrine Falcons, two individuals, perched, allowing excellent views for all members of the group. We could see the dark helmet, the fine dark grey barring on chest and belly, the yellow of the cere on one. Both birds looked slim and elegant sitting still in their tree-top staring back intently at the birders staring at them. Bald Eagles, Three, two adults and one immature. The best was the immature, we thought a second year bird, on the ground watching a Red-Tailed Hawk devoring a fresh kill. When the Red-tailed left the eagle moved in. Rough-legged Hawk, two, one watching another Red-tailed on a fresh kill. The Red-tail, a juvenile, hunched over his kill with tail spread and wings partially extended protecting the bird it was devouring. At one point the Red-tailed and the Rough-legged got into a skirmish with one holding the other down. Great bird-watching! Rounding out the raptor show were several Kestrals and two Northern Harriers, both a male and female. The group also saw 12 species of waterfowl including hundreds of Can. geese. Geese are a given at Finley but the sight, sound of hundreds of birds is impressive. A small group, 7, swans flew low over our heads calling to each other. Three Common Goldeneyes were a surprise and there were Woodducks in the flooded woods. Other highlights: Hutton's Vireo with a large flock of Bushtits, Chickadees and both Kinglets. Acorn Woodpeckers in their usual spot along Bruce Rd. Singing Marsh Wrens near the blind including one individual darting about below the blind so close that you didn't need binoculars to see the stripes on its back. White-breasted Nuthatches in "their" tree near headquarters. A great day. Diane Horgan From drheath at worldnet.att.net Fri Jan 17 08:14:59 2003 From: drheath at worldnet.att.net (David Heath) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Baltimore Oriole? Message-ID: <005d01c2be43$99d42a60$47c1510c@lucky> Anyone seen the Florence Oriole lately? Anyone tried and NOT seen him? David Heath Portland From Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us Thu Jan 16 08:21:41 2003 From: Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Change in OB field notes Message-ID: <3514F6D1DB66D311809D009027856D0801085BFE@mercury.osac.state.or.us> The decision to change the format of the OB field notes was made by the editor after consulting with the people who currently write the field notes, many of whom responded (all favorably) to a letter describing the proposal sent last month. Steve asked me to go ahead and send the announcement because he is working on the next issue (and wait til you see it !) and I am the ringleader raising the issue and suggesting the change. Our concern with the current system is that it submerges much of interest regarding changes in local status, it requires writers to write about status in regions they do not know well, it is structurally incapable of using OBOL effectively because there is too much material on OBOL to sift, and it requires too great a workload burden, thus burning out writers. We have found in the past couple of years that most Oregon birders simply will not submit field notes to OB anymore. They post to OBOL and consider their duty done. There are some notable exceptions, but we only get 10-15 direct submissions no matter how we whine. That means that field notes MUST be made to work more effectively with OBOL or we will lose way too much data. Using smaller reporting regions allows local writers to cull only those sightings that go in their own region, a manageable task. We expect to announce who the regional writers will be in the next week or so. Alan L. Contreras Henchperson From oschmidt at att.net Thu Jan 16 08:33:52 2003 From: oschmidt at att.net (Owen Schmidt) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: OBOL McCown's Longspur YES Message-ID: OBOL -- The McCown's Longspur was present along with dozens of Horned Larks from about 1:30 - 2:30 pm. It seems to be the skulkiest of the lot, being the most difficult to find -- and re-find -- and a tough one to photograph. oschmidt@att.net Wednesday, January 15, 2003 From chenowethyeager at yahoo.com Thu Jan 16 10:03:37 2003 From: chenowethyeager at yahoo.com (Jo Yeager) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Mourning dove NOT! Message-ID: First noted in my back yard 12/26/02, the dove without wing spots and with a neat black collar, edged in white, continues to elude the neighborhood felines. It spends several hours a day feeding and then roosting in my big cottonwood.About 8 or 10 mourning doves are coming in also. Never noted more than an occasional dove here 4 blocks west of the Independence bridge. From jgeier at attglobal.net Thu Jan 16 11:08:10 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Linn Co. and Wallowa Co. birds of interest Message-ID: <3E27031A.816DFC62@attglobal.net> Hello birders, A couple of interesting reports: First, Richard Hoyer Sr. called in a bunch of interesting birds from the general vicinity of Jeff Fleischer's Gyrfalcon report in SW Linn Co. These included a BEWICK'S (TUNDRA) SWAN in with 300 other Tundras near where Lake Creek Drive meets I-5, three NORTHERN SHRIKES (two immatures one day and then one adult the next) along Seefeld Rd. west of Falk Rd, and a total of four BALD EAGLES (1 ad, 3 imm) in the same area. Sightings were on Tuesday and Wednesday. He also noted one BURROWING OWL each day, first at one culvert along Blueberry Rd. and then at another nearby. Second, Ralph Anderson posted a report on http://birdnotes.net of a recent SHARP-TAILED GROUSE sighting near the town of Wallowa. He notes there have been a few other reports from that general area in the past 12 months. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From celata at pacifier.com Thu Jan 16 12:16:31 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Brownsmead, Clatsop Co., OR - 1/16/2003 Message-ID: <3E27131F.4E2A2378@pacifier.com> Brownsmead, Clatsop Co. OR - 1/16/2003 A single BARN SWALLOW was cruising over the kangaroo coral near the llama farm on Aldrich Pt Rd. Two WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS were nearby in the raspberry arbor along with about 150 OREGON JUNCOS as well as WHITE-CROWNED and GOLDEN-CROWNED SPARROWS. Both WTSP were 1st winter birds, one a white-stripe; one a tan- stripe. This area had been checked during the Wahkiakum CBC with no WTSP detected. Birds seen : Pied-billed Grebe Western Grebe Double-crested Cormorant Great Blue Heron Canada Goose Tundra Swan 17 [1] Gadwall American Wigeon Mallard Northern Shoveler 1 Northern Pintail Green-Winged Teal Ring-necked Duck 1 Greater Scaup Bufflehead Hooded Merganser White-tailed Kite 1 [2] Bald Eagle 3 Northern Harrier 4 Red-tailed Hawk 5 American Kestrel 2 Peregrine Falcon 1 American Coot 2 Mew Gull Western Gull Glaucous-winged Gull Northern Flicker Steller's Jay Western Scrub-Jay American Crow Common Raven BARN SWALLOW 1 Black-capped Chickadee Winter Wren Golden-crowned Kinglet Ruby-crowned Kinglet American Robin Varied Thrush European Starling Yellow-rumped Warbler Spotted Towhee 1 Fox Sparrow 45 Song Sparrow 50 WHITE-THROATED SPARROW 2 [3] White-crowned Sparrow 8 Golden-crowned Sparrow 75 Dark-eyed Junco 300 [4] Red-winged Blackbird Brewer's Blackbird House Finch 5 Pine Siskin 75 American Goldfinch 1 House Sparrow 100 Footnotes: [1] Bughole [2] corner of Jackson and Pentilla [3] together in raspberry arbor near llama farm on Aldrich Pt Rd. [4] undercount Total number of species seen: 53 -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From dondewitt at hotmail.com Thu Jan 16 14:32:38 2003 From: dondewitt at hotmail.com (Don DeWitt) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Golden Eagle at Mt. Pisgah, Lane Co. Message-ID: OBOL, Dennis Arendt and I observed an adult GOLDEN EAGLE at about 12:30 pm today, Jan. 16. We were walking up from the Coast Fork of the Willamette, along the south flank of Mt. Pisgah, when the bird flew directly over us, heading southwest. Don DeWitt _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From garbledmodwit at yahoo.com Thu Jan 16 15:29:04 2003 From: garbledmodwit at yahoo.com (Tim Rodenkirk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Coos County 1/16/2003 Message-ID: <20030116232904.60727.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com> I saw a LESSER YELLOWLEGS with three Greater Yellowlegs on the mudflats where Coos Bay enters Kentuck Inlet. Mike McDowell had seen a Lesser here about a week before the Coos Bay CBC so I suspect this bird is overwintering in the neighborhood. Also, way out on the mudflat I could barely make out a small flock of 22 White-throated Sparrows. The habitat seemed a bit unusual for this species, perhaps one of you Lane County sparrow hawks have seen this bizarre behavior before? Tim R in sunny Coos Bay __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From MARCEMAFFA at aol.com Thu Jan 16 15:30:35 2003 From: MARCEMAFFA at aol.com (MARCEMAFFA@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: V.Flycatcher Directions.... Message-ID: <6FB0936D.7E5C908A.0AF01DBF@aol.com> I think I might be the only one in Oregon who hasn't seen this beauty in real life....going tomorrow morning and have deleted the directions....mea culpa Would someone, anyone...please send me the directions? From kingbird97206 at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jan 16 16:17:41 2003 From: kingbird97206 at EARTHLINK.NET (Laura Whittemore) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Ridgefield NWR, Washington Message-ID: Tomas Larsen and I birded the Ridgefield NWR (in Ridgefield, Washington) River S unit today from about 11am to 2pm. Beautiful day and birds were very active. Highlights included: A RED-SHOULDERED HAWK close to the Observation Blind. It called repeatedly then was flushed by a group of crows to a tree where it spent time preening. Over one of the ponds on the far side we observed 6 TREE SWALLOWS and 1 BARN SWALLOW. Approximately 200 TUNDRA SWANS and 300 SNOW GEESE were present on the largest main pond. Among a group of AMERICAN WIGEON we found a solitary EURASIAN WIGEON. CANVASBACK, RUDDY DUCK, GADWALL, RING-NECKED DUCK, NORTHERN PINTAIL, NORTHERN SHOVELER and others were all easily observed from the Observation Blind. About every 10 feet we came upon either a RED-TAILED HAWK or a NORTHERN HARRIER. Take your pick, there's plenty to go around. Cheers and good birding, Laura Whittemore From Irons5 at aol.com Thu Jan 16 16:54:27 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: OBOL Re: Coos County birding Message-ID: <5FF93AB1.3E42E07E.0004D4D4@aol.com> "Also, way out on the mudflat I could barely make out a small flock of 22 White-throated Sparrows. ?The habitat seemed a bit unusual for this species, perhaps one of you Lane County sparrow hawks have seen this bizarre behavior before?" (Tim Rodenkirk 1-15-03) Based on this hallucintion, it is clear that Tim has lost all contact with reality. I am forced to consider discontinuing the compilation of White-throated Sparrows in the interest of preserving what's left of Tim fragile sanity. JUST KIDDING! The total tally is now over 220 birds and rising. Keep the reports (especially from Lane Co.) coming. On my way to the next Lane Co. WTSP, Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From mccarmel at peak.org Thu Jan 16 17:02:21 2003 From: mccarmel at peak.org (Marcia F. Cutler) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: Linn Co. Raptors, No GYR Message-ID: <3E27561D.2A31@peak.org> Oboloids, While cruising around Linn Co. checking for several specialties, I came across a PRAIRIE FALCON at the north end of Green Valley Rd. about 1 mile south of Oakville. On my second pass along Seefeld Dr. west of I-5 a PEREGRINE FALCON was perched on a pole about 1/4 mile east of 99E. The Seefeld Dr., Falk Rd and Hwy 228 area was full of BALD EAGLES. I eventually counted at least 3 adults (2 on Falk and one near Pioneer Villa) and 4 immatures (all together with one adult in a grove of trees north of Seefeld, one was a 3d year eagle, the others were younger. I can't be sure this adult was not one of the other 3 I saw) Not technically a raptor, but I also saw at least 1 of the immature NORTHERN SHRIKES along Seefeld (I briefly thought I saw 2, but then concluded I was probably hallucinating.... Then I read Joel's posting!) No Gyrfalcon, nor did I see either of the Burrowing Owls. Marcia F. Cutler mccarmel@peak.org Corvallis From mccarmel at peak.org Thu Jan 16 17:08:22 2003 From: mccarmel at peak.org (Marcia F. Cutler) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:40 2004 Subject: WTSP - Linn Co. Message-ID: <3E275786.5874@peak.org> Add one more WHITE-THROATED SPARROW for Linn Co. I found one this afternoon along Crook Dr. at the bridge crossing Muddy Creek. It was a tan-striped individual. This makes 3 WTSPs I've seen this season in Linn County. They've all been in thickets near streams. The thickets have been composed of small trees, various shrubs with only a modest overlay of brambles. Marcia F. Cutler mccarmel@peak.org Corvallis From birdsong at harborside.com Thu Jan 16 17:22:17 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Mourning dove NOT! References: Message-ID: <3E275AC9.2050308@harborside.com> Folks, Every once in a while someone has to send out a message to remind folks to be real specific about the location of your sighting and what you are seeing (assuming you IDed the bird). Either in the body of the message or the headliner should be the local town and the county. We really appreciate the below message, and it sounds as though there is an interesting dove in someone's backyard, but from the message I haven't a clue where! It could be in the next town over, or next to Idaho - I get the suspicion it has something to do with some area near a town of Independence, but I might be wrong! Don't mean to pick on anyone or be mean, but please assume we are all idiots who haven't got a clue how to look up something on a map - it would make it easier for all! Thanks Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com Jo Yeager wrote: > First noted in my back yard 12/26/02, the dove without wing spots and with > a neat black collar, edged in white, continues to elude the neighborhood > felines. It spends several hours a day feeding and then roosting in my > big cottonwood.About 8 or 10 mourning doves are coming in also. Never > noted more than an occasional dove here 4 blocks west of the Independence > bridge. > > > > From birdsong at harborside.com Thu Jan 16 17:25:39 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Palm Warbler, Coos Cty Message-ID: <3E275B93.1020701@harborside.com> 1/16/03 Coos Bay North Spit, Coos Cty We took a walk around the aeration pond on North Spit Coos Bay looking for that illusionary sparrow that is supposed to like trees even though where it breeds there isn't anything that could be considered a tree in hundreds if not thousands of miles. It made no showing. BUT, we did find a PALM WARBLER which is giving me a little faith that my leg hasn't been pulled too hard...... Cheers Dave Lauten and Kathy Castelein Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From mandt at mail.seasurf.net Thu Jan 16 13:49:36 2003 From: mandt at mail.seasurf.net (Moria and Todd) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: White-winged Crossbill -SJCR 1/16/03 Message-ID: <200301170137.h0H1bdP04279@gopostal.seasurf.net> A single female WHITE-WINGED CROSSBILL was observed perched in a spruce tree near parking lot ?A, SJCR (Clatsop Cty) on 1/16/03. The primary field marks used for I.D. were the two broad, white wing bars and white tertial tips on black wings. The flight call was markedly different from the varieties of Red Crossbills that I have encountered. The flight call was a quick succession of harch, flat chet or chit notes. The tail was long and black. The bird was ID?d as a female in relation to to yellowy olive upperparts, a pale yellow rump, and olive grey underparts with indistinct streaking. Todd Thornton mandt@seasurf.net Astoria, OR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030116/013ea10e/attachment.htm From jgeier at attglobal.net Thu Jan 16 17:52:52 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Mourning Dove - NOT Message-ID: <3E2761F4.DABB5BC7@attglobal.net> What! never heard of Independence! That's the closest metropolis to where we live (other than Suver, pop. 8 or 10, depending on if it's aweekend or not). Independence (D'Lorme p. 53) is in Polk Co., "wet" twin city to the formerly "dry" Monmouth, and historically the top of the line for most riverboat traffic on the Willamette. The bridge is at the south end of town, leading onto the River Rd. toward Salem (or better yet, Ankeny). Come to think of it, maybe this bird is within my chasing radius. Good birding, Joel > Never > noted more than an occasional dove here 4 blocks west of the Independence > bridge. > - Joel Geier Wells District, Rural Suver (south of Independence), SE Polk Co. jgeier@attglobal.net From birdboy at bkpix.com Thu Jan 16 18:02:40 2003 From: birdboy at bkpix.com (Noah Strycker) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Creswell, Eugene birds Message-ID: <002701c2bdcc$8696c100$5e1e6c0c@Pcreswell> Obol, This morning at the Creswell Sewage Ponds: 1 SNOW GOOSE 1 WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE 1 EARED GREBE 1 BALD EAGLE (ad.) 1 WHITE-THROATED SPARROW Also, this afternoon I spent about an hour and a half looking for unbirded sparrow spots around west Eugene. All I turned up was one WHITE-THROATED SPARROW on Oak Hill Road, near the first bend west of Greenhill, and a single LINCOLN'S SPARROW on a gravel road off of Greenhill to the north. Good birding, Noah Strycker (east of Creswell) From jnjcarlson at attbi.com Thu Jan 16 18:25:35 2003 From: jnjcarlson at attbi.com (Jim Carlson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: RUFF returns to Stewart Pond, PALM WARBLER remains Message-ID: <000901c2bdcf$b80f8520$5375e10c@attbi.com> One of the Ruffs was at Stewart Pond, Eugene this afternoon. Vjera Arnold located it and I happened to be there looking for the palm warbler which also was seen. The Ruff was with three greater yellowlegs on the east side of the pond directly across from the blind. The palm warbler was refound a couple of days ago by Tom Mickel. I found the bird in the same general area today. It seems to be associating with two yellow-rumps in the young cottonwoods on the south side of the ODOT mitigation pond to the NW of the photo blind at Stewart Pond. The trees are only 10-15 feet tall. The yellowrumps are much more active than the palm and tended to be higher in the trees. The palm stayed from ground level to about 5 feet. But I only watched it for 5-6 minutes. Very nice tail-bobbin, bright yellow undertailed bird. Of course it was bright and sunny when I saw it today. Jim Carlson jnjcarlson@attbi.com From jnjcarlson at attbi.com Thu Jan 16 18:31:00 2003 From: jnjcarlson at attbi.com (Jim Carlson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Linn County SNOW BUNTING Message-ID: <000f01c2bdd0$7958b8a0$5375e10c@attbi.com> Sorry for the late posting on this one. I refound the snow bunting near Blueberry Road last Sunday, 1/12. On my way back from the vermillion flycatcher, I stopped to look for the bunting and burrowing owl. It was pouring down rain. I couldn't find the bunting or horner larks on Harmony drive but I did run into the flock on the county road just west of the intersection with blueberry road. This is just across a very large grass seed field from harmony road so I suspect the flock is hanging around in the general vicinity. I didn't see the owl but all the culverts were running full of water. Jim Carlson jnjcarlson@attbi.com From FoxSparrows at aol.com Thu Jan 16 18:42:46 2003 From: FoxSparrows at aol.com (FoxSparrows@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: OBOL Re: Coos County birding Message-ID: <16f.194b73a0.2b58c7a6@aol.com> In a message dated 1/16/2003 5:05:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, Irons5@aol.com writes: > Based on this hallucintion, it is clear that Tim has lost all contact with > reality. I am forced to consider discontinuing the compilation of > White-throated Sparrows in the interest of preserving what's left of Tim > fragile sanity. This could simply be a malfunction in one of the VBE units only... the others may be working fine. We need to get the serial number on this one and check it out... Steve Dowlan Mehama, Oregon The North Santiam Canyon of the western Cascades OWLHOOTER@AOL.COM Fox Sparrows@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030116/ed02ccb7/attachment.htm From campbell at peak.org Thu Jan 16 19:20:13 2003 From: campbell at peak.org (campbell@peak.org) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Linn Peregrine, Merlin Message-ID: About noon, Wednesday, while (unsuccessfully) hunting for the Falk Road Gyrfalcon just south of Halsey, I found a fine mature Peregrine. It was sitting in a tree just behind the first farmhouse north of Lake Creek Drive, picking at something, and gave me by far the best look I've ever had at a Peregrine. Last Friday morning, I think, while (unsuccessfully) hunting for the Golden Plover at Tangent Drive and Country Road, I found a Merlin about one mile further west. It was sitting in the top of the largest tree just beside the Western Star Grange Hall where Tangent Drive meets Oakville Road. (It was easy to miss in thick fog. I saw it only because it flew up and perched as I drove by.) It resembeled the columbarius Female in the National Geographic--not nearly as dark as the Pacific in Sibley's. I think I saw it again, Monday morning, about 8:30, about four miles south on Davis Road. With the Gyrfalcon, this suggests the tantalizing posibility of five falcons on one day in the Tangent-Halsey area. Sorry for the late posting. Jeff Fleischer said I should OBOL these. We usually have two or three White-Throated Sparrows under our brush pile each morning, here along the river in down-town Peoria. Drop by if you're desperate. Randy Campbell From raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 16 19:40:07 2003 From: raptorrunner97321 at yahoo.com (Jeff Fleischer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Linn County - Raptor Run #8 Message-ID: <20030117034007.48025.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Obolers, I took advantage of the great weather today and completed my 8th run of the winter season. I censused UNIT 1 which covers the Dever Conner / Millersburg area north of Albany and the Scravel Hill / Knox Butte area east of I-5 and north of Highway 20. I started the count at 11:05 and spent 4 hours 20 minutes on the drive of 76.4 miles. This is the second trip around Unit 1. I have now completed two runs on each of the 4 units. The time frame for this second set of runs was from January 8 to today, eight days total. Following is what I saw today and what was seen, in ( ), on the first trip through Unit 1 on December 4, 2002. Red-tailed Hawk 42 (45) American Kestrel 32 (32) Northern Harrier 8 ( 4) Cooper's Hawk - ( 3) Sharp-shinned Hawk - ( 2) Peregrine Falcon - ( 1) Prairie Falcon 1 ( 2) Merlin 1 - Bald Eagle 2 - Total 86 (89) Regarding the above figures for todays trip, best birds were the MERLIN seen along Highway 20 just west of the new Coastal Farm Supply building harrassing a large flock of Killdeer with continued straffing of the flock (as far as I could tell it was unsuccessful in its hunting efforts) and the PRAIRIE FALCON also seen straffing a flock of killdeer along Conser Rd in virtually the same place (about a quarter mile west of the railroad tracks) that I saw one on the first trip. I saw this bird (assumption) early (11:45 AM) in the run on Arnold Rd which is about a mile or two SE of the Conser Rd location. I saw the bird again at the end of the afternoon (3:45 PM) at the Conser Rd location as I was attempting to locate the 4 Short-eared Owls that Paul Sullivan and I saw during the Airlie-Albany CBC on 1/5. I did not see the owls today. When we saw the owls during the CBC it was at 3:00 PM. The following table reflects total number of raptors seen during the second set of trips on all four units. The numbers in ( ) are the totals seen during the first set of trips which occurred from 11-27 through 12-12. Red-tailed Hawk 158 (153) American Kestrel 210 (173) Northern Harrier 23 ( 15) Cooper's Hawk 4 ( 3) Sharp-shinned Hawk 1 ( 2) Peregrine Falcon 2 ( 3) Prairie Falcon 2 ( 3) Gyrfalcon 1 - Merlin 1 - Bald Eagle 18 ( 6) Rough-legged Hawk 3 ( 1) Burrowing Owl 2 ( 1) Total 425 (360) As an addition to the above sightings I saw one adult Peregrine Falcon on Highway 34 about 3 miles east of I-5 yesterday on my way up to Foster Reservoir to search for all the birds that Mark Nikas posted the other day on his trip up there. I in fact saw all of the birds that he reported, including the 2 Pacific Loons. I will probably wait a couple weeks before starting the third set of raptor runs. Looking forward to finding more good birds :), the winter is young! Jeff Fleischer Albany, OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From areid at bossig.com Thu Jan 16 19:55:42 2003 From: areid at bossig.com (Alan Reid) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Burrowing Owl Message-ID: <000e01c2bddc$51525440$ec9f08d0@LorenaReid> Today I went to the Peoria area, south of Corvallis. I did not see the PACIFIC GOLDEN PLOVER near Country Rd. & Tangent Dr., not even one KILLDEER. On Linn Co. Rd. just west of Blueberry Lane I got a good look and photos of the BURROWING OWL. Alan Reid areid@bossig.com 17.5 mile post on McKenzie Hwy. 2 miles west of Leaburg From vireogirl at yahoo.com Thu Jan 16 20:25:49 2003 From: vireogirl at yahoo.com (Vjera Arnold) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Stewart Pond: Palm, Ruff Message-ID: <20030117042549.42937.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> OBOLers, A RUFF was back at Stewart Pond today (1/16/03). I was checking the ducks (best were 2 pairs of HOODED MERGANSERS) and noticed a couple shorebirds, which I proceeded to scope. They were sleeping, but as they started feeding I realized one had to be a Ruff (hunched back, short bill, golden-patterned back, etc.). I also saw the PALM WARBLER in the cottonwoods around the back pond. Vjera Arnold Eugene, OR vireogirl@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From whoffman at pioneer.net Thu Jan 16 20:47:53 2003 From: whoffman at pioneer.net (whoffman@pioneer.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Linn Co. Raptors, No GYR References: Message-ID: <3E278AF9.5CF1@pioneer.net> Ihave been seeing a newborn lambs over here. Were there sheep operations in the area with the eagles? Marcia F. Cutler wrote: > The Seefeld Dr., Falk Rd and Hwy 228 area was full of BALD EAGLES. I > eventually counted at least 3 adults (2 on Falk and one near Pioneer > Villa) and 4 immatures (all together with one adult in a grove of trees > north of Seefeld, one was a 3d year eagle, the others were younger. I > can't be sure this adult was not one of the other 3 I saw) > > Marcia F. Cutler > mccarmel@peak.org > Corvallis From whoffman at pioneer.net Thu Jan 16 20:51:06 2003 From: whoffman at pioneer.net (whoffman@pioneer.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: OBOL Re: Coos County birding References: Message-ID: <3E278BBA.15BF@pioneer.net> How do you check it out? With the Raelians? FoxSparrows@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/16/2003 5:05:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Irons5@aol.com writes: > > Based on this hallucintion, it is clear that Tim has lost > all contact with reality. I am forced to consider > discontinuing the compilation of White-throated Sparrows in > the interest of preserving what's left of Tim fragile > sanity. > > This could simply be a malfunction in one of the VBE units only... the > others may be working fine. We need to get the serial number on this > one and check it out... > > Steve Dowlan > Mehama, Oregon > The North Santiam Canyon > of the western Cascades > OWLHOOTER@AOL.COM > Fox Sparrows@aol.com From pygmyowl at hotmail.com Thu Jan 16 21:17:14 2003 From: pygmyowl at hotmail.com (Mike Marsh) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Linn County Burrowing Owl, etc. Message-ID: County for recently reported rarities. Except for the BURROWING OWL with bands on both legs, we struck out. We did see what we first thought was a BEWICK'S SWAN east of Falk Rd., but then decided it more closely matched Sibley's TUNDRA SWAN "with maximum yellow." We did not do what I would call a raptor run, but we did tally up the raptors we saw from Wilsonville down to the area around Halsey and then back up to BSNWR: Red-tailed Hawk-----------39 American Kestrel----------35 Bald Eagle-----------------7 Sharp-shinned Hawk---------1 Cooper's Hawk--------------1 Northern Harrier-----------1 (!) Peregrine Falcon-----------1 Falcon Sp.-----------------1 Burrowing Owl--------------1 The Falcon Sp. was seen in silhouette only at dusk in poor light along Livermore Rd. An obvious falcon based on wing shape and stiff wing beat, we immediately ruled out Prairie Falcon due to the very large overall size, strongly barrell-chested appearance, and "honkin' tail." We had seen a Peregrine in flight about 1.5 hours before this, and in comparison, this bird was larger, flew higher, and had slower, more deliberate wing beats. Yes, it coulda been, but of course we'll never know. Good birding, Mike Michael Marsh Portland, OR PygmyOwl@Hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From dbird at teleport.com Thu Jan 16 21:04:14 2003 From: dbird at teleport.com (Donna Lusthoff) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Listing Bobwhites References: Message-ID: <004f01c2bdea$28713560$cf4ffea9@DonnaLustoff> I used to be active in bird dog field trials. Bird dog trainers use Bobwhite in training their dogs. Also chukar. When I saw 2 Bobwhite in Wasco Co. at a location I frequently visited. When I asked about them, it was as I suspected. There had been a training session field trial on the property. I also saw 1 in Gilliam Co. But felt it also was "left over" from a training session. Donna Lusthoff, Beaverton OR dbird@teleport.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Lawrence To: Obol Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: [obol] Re: Listing Bobwhites > I have been birding in the Treasure Valley, for about 8 or 9 years now and > only remember 1 occassion of Bobwhite being reported in this area. That was > about 2 years ago. There were 1 or 2 birds reported for a couple of months > in Barber Park in Boise. I think a lot of people used these birds to tick > off another species for their state list. But in all honesty, I also think > that most people regard the origin of these Bobwhite to have been suspect. > to my knowledge there are no known or reliable locations in southwest Idaho > for this species. > > Dave Lawrence > lawde13@cableone.net > Caldwell, ID 83607 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Korpi" > To: "Obol" > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 6:01 PM > Subject: [obol] Listing Bobwhites > > > > Hi all, > > As I recall, there was some discussion of the movement of Northern > Bobwhite > > populations in the Treasure Valley sections of Idaho into the Ontario area > a > > few years ago and whether these might be countable. > > > > I have seen Bobwhite and Chukar on Sauvie Island and Scappoose Bottoms. I > > generally do not count them. The birds that I have seen out there > > (especially Bobwhite) do not act like birds in more established > populations. > > I mean, when a Bobwhite stands in the middle of the road and looks at me > > while I whistle "Bob-white" at it, that's just not a Bobwhite that I would > > see in the Midwest where they hightail it off the roads. > > > > Of course, the nice thing about lists is that you can count it by whatever > > rules you want; for the OFO lists, Jamie S. has given a good overview on > why > > rules were set up. > > > > BTW, I did get the McCown's on Saturday (WAS GREAT TO SEE SO MANY FAMILIAR > > FACES!!!!) and the Vermilion both days this weekend. When I was there, > the > > Vermilion was on the north side of the road in the lake next to the little > > par-3 hole there. I would caution birders to stay off the golf course, > > however, especially if I have club in my hand!! If you are scoping, check > > the easternmost edge of that lake, and do check low. At one point, the > bird > > was perched on the little hut there. > > Ray Korpi > > rkorpi@hotmail.com > > Vancouver WA > > > > Next OFO Weekend: Coos Bay, February 15-16 > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months > > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > > > > > > From bigrocketman3 at webtv.net Fri Jan 17 05:58:16 2003 From: bigrocketman3 at webtv.net (Steve McDonald) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Tundra Swans: Bewick's or Whistling---Photo Website Message-ID: <1304-3E280BF8-3649@storefull-2117.public.lawson.webtv.net> There is an excellent website from Nederland on the link below with the best closeup photos of Bewick's Swans I've seen. Click on the small picture of the Bewick's Swan and then click on the larger one. Follow the succession of pages for many photos and descriptions. There's some shots of Whooper Swans on the website also. http://members.chello.nl/fam.pouwels2/engels.html The dove at Independence sounds like a Ring-necked Dove, native to Europe and Africa. They look very similar to Mourning Doves. There are a great number of them that are kept as pets in this country and it's common for them to get loose. The ancestors of many of them have been kept in captivity for hundreds to thousands of years and their survival behavior when released to the wild has not been improved by this. The White Sacred Doves are also descendents of this species. Steve McDonald From celata at pacifier.com Fri Jan 17 10:50:52 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Fort Stevens State Park - 1/17/2003 Message-ID: <3E28508C.B5E52560@pacifier.com> I spent an hour looking for the crossbill reported yesterday near parking lot A without finding it. There was plenty of other stuff though... The NORTHERN HARRIER have apparently switched from phalaropes to VARIED THRUSHES as there were many thrush parts scattered along the bike path. Birds seen (in taxonomic order): Canada Goose 12 Mallard 4 Ring-necked Duck 9 Northern Harrier 3 Red-tailed Hawk 1 Ruffed Grouse 1 [1] Western Gull Glaucous-winged Gull Northern Flicker 4 Hutton's Vireo 1 Common Raven 3 Black-capped Chickadee 14 Chestnut-backed Chickadee 7 Bushtit 16 Bewick's Wren 1 Winter Wren 2 Golden-crowned Kinglet 20 Ruby-crowned Kinglet 2 Hermit Thrush 1 American Robin 1 Varied Thrush 14 Wrentit 2 European Starling 2 Yellow-rumped Warbler 75 [2] Spotted Towhee 1 Fox Sparrow 3 Song Sparrow 5 Footnotes: [1] on the bike path [2] most Myrtle-type Total number of species seen: 27 -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From MARCEMAFFA at aol.com Fri Jan 17 10:55:52 2003 From: MARCEMAFFA at aol.com (MARCEMAFFA@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: VerFly..yup Message-ID: <155.1a71843e.2b59abb8@aol.com> Thanks to all of you who gave me directions to see this red ball of fire. He was out by the pond behind the corner house this morning, bright and early with the sun. ...Now it's off to work *sigh* Marcia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030117/7ee0f0bf/attachment.htm From woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 17 11:26:50 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com (J. Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: How do I get a list of obol subscribers? Message-ID: <20030117192650.43886.qmail@web13602.mail.yahoo.com> When obol was on the previous listserver, it was possible to send a command and receive a list of obol subscribers and their email addresses. Has anyone figured out a way to do that under the current Lyris listserver? (It saves having to ask the whole list for a person's email address.) Thanks, Jamie Corvallis woodpecker97330@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From greg.gillson at exgate.tek.com Fri Jan 17 12:25:55 2003 From: greg.gillson at exgate.tek.com (greg.gillson@exgate.tek.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: How do I get a list of obol subscribers? Message-ID: <7EDB294F3EE1744BA2AB357D5C39579802A9AAFC@us-bv-m05> no subject necessary send as your text the command: review obol names Other Lyris e-mail commands can be found at: http://www.lyris.com/lm_help/4.0/EmailCommands.html Greg Gillson OBOL list co-owner greg@thebirdguide.com From birdsong at harborside.com Fri Jan 17 14:20:59 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Bandon, Coos Cty 1/17/03 Message-ID: <3E2881CB.8050707@harborside.com> 1/17/03 Bandon, Coos Cty Tim Rodenkirk, Kathy and I hit the downtown neighborhood of Bandon this morning in a search for WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS and other goodies. We didn't have that much success with WTSP's, but Tim did manage to scrape up 2 new birds. We did find a bunch of other stuff, including 2 PALM WARBLERS, 3 TOWNSEND'S WARBLERS, and 3 SLATE-COLORED JUNCOS. Also, we found a flock of about 100 MOURNING DOVES, which is quite a good number in winter along the coast. Kathy also noted one WHITE-CROWNED SPARROW that was actually eating the petals of a gorse plant - so, we guess that gorse isn't ALL bad........yikes! We did run into a VBE, who claimed to have had another one of these mystery flocks of WTSP's out on the mud of Bandon Marsh. But since we were with the real Mr. Trodenki, we knew it had to be a VBE, so there was no need to check the serial number, but certainly the poor fellow is having some serious internal computing malfunctions, and we suggested to the VBE that it go in for repairs soon before it gets too haywire. Word has it that the shop will take about 10 days or so and then the Trodenki's will be back in force - all three of them! : ) Cheers Dave Lauten and Kathy Castelein Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From jgeier at attglobal.net Fri Jan 17 06:36:05 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (jgeier@attglobal.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Census Count: Independence, Polk County, Oregon on January 17, 2003 Message-ID: <20030117222302.0FC186D65A@smtp3.pacifier.net> Date: January 17, 2003 Location: Independence, Polk County, Oregon Low temperature: 45 degrees fahrenheit High temperature: 50 degrees fahrenheit Wind direction: SW Prevailing wind speed: 6-11 km/h Percentage of sky covered by clouds: 20% Precipitation: none Hello birders, My e-mail server is jammed so I will try sending this through birdnotes.net. I stopped by Jo Yeager's place in Independence (Polk Co.) this morning and we had a nice long look at the dove she has been seeing. I brought along my main European/North African bird reference (Beaman & Madge) as well as Sibley's guide. After about a half hour watching the bird as it perched in her back yard and preened in various attitudes, my conclusion was that this is an AFRICAN COLLARED DOVE (Streptopelia roseagrisea), which means it is in all probability an escaped bird as these are native to sub-Saharan Africa; Beaman & Madge do not even mention vagrants in Europe. The domestic form of this species is called "Barbary Dove." This dove was perched for most of the time on a branch just below two MOURNING DOVES which allowed size comparison. The bird is close in length to a Mourning Dove but heavier looking. As the bird was fluffed up most of the time it was hard to say how much of this was actual and how much was fluff. Overall back coloration is a rosy gray similar to a Mourning Dove minus the spots, and with a strong black crescent on the back of the neck, bordered above by white. Primaries are dark gray and contrast markedly with the rest of the lighter gray wing (i.e. wing coverts). If you're following along in Sibley so far, you should be looking at Eurasian Collared Dove, but hold on .... When the bird tipped its tail up, it showed bright white undertail coverts, matching the white underside of the rectrices. There is a contrasting black triangle on either side of the undertail coverts. The white undertail coverts are a key point for distinguishing between African and Eurasian Collared Doves; on Eurasian the undertail coverts should be gray. We had to wait a long time for the bird to fan its tail enough to show the top tail pattern, but when it finally did this I could see that the slate gray coloration at the bases of the outer tail feathers extends all the way out to the white area on the tips (the latter showing as white corners when the tail is folded). The middle part of the upperside of the tail is the same pinkish/tannish gray as the back, and this color appears to be uniform all the way up the middle of the back (i.e. no gray patch as on Eurasian Collared Dove). These features -- extensive slate gray on the side tail feathers rather than a two-toned gray and buffy look, and uniform back color -- also are diagnostic of African rather than Eurasian Collared Dove. The top side of the tail when folded shows a lighter, sort of buffy tip which combined with the broader white on the ends of the outer rectrices gives the impression of a complete tail band (pinched in the middle, not uniform width) when the tail is fanned. This does not show up in any of my referecnes for either of these species, but it's a bit subtle and I suppose it could be from individual variation or wear. One other thing I noticed is that the bill is rather large (speaking proportionally with respect to head size) compared with the depictions of Eurasian CD in Sibley -- but consistent with the depictions in Beaman and Madge. Bill was black, feet were red. I think that's about all I have noted down. Sure is nice being able to look at a bird at leisure while sitting down at a table with notebook, pen & all the books opened to the right page in front of you. Other nice birds that came by included a couple of LESSER GOLDFINCHES (one male and one female) plus Am. Goldfinches, a White-crowned Sparrow, and a few B-c Chickadees and probably some other nice birds that I have forgotten. After that I went over to the Roth's store (the ostensible reason for this trip to town). Just as I was leaving there, a quite dark MERLIN came winging over the parking lot, turned right and zoomed off in the direction of downtown Independence. The secondary treatment pond by the dairy on Oak Hill Rd. south of Independence had a nice assortment of diving ducks, including three CANVASBACKS, some RUDDY DUCKS, BUFFLEHEADS, LESSER SCAUP, and RING-NECKED DUCKS. The ROCK DOVE flock gave me three dove species for the day, woo-hoo! A DOUBLE-CRESTED CORMORANT was swimming on the Luckiamute River by the bridge. Not a big deal, but usually I look for Common Mergansers here. That species was missed entirely on the Airlie CBC on Jan 5, and as of today I still haven't seen one on the rivers in the area -- quite unusual. I even made a point of watching ahead of boats that were moving up and down the Willamette River at Luckiamute Landing on Wednesday, since usually mergansers will fly ahead of the boats. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net Birds seen (in taxonomic order): Merlin 1 Mourning Dove 2 Steller's Jay Western Scrub-Jay Black-capped Chickadee American Robin European Starling Spotted Towhee Song Sparrow White-crowned Sparrow 1 Dark-eyed Junco House Finch Lesser Goldfinch 2 American Goldfinch Total number of species seen: 14 From Irons5 at aol.com Fri Jan 17 15:43:59 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: OBOL: Stewart Pond Palm Warbler continues, Ruff NO! Message-ID: <2896C457.0C09A02C.0004D4D4@aol.com> Paul Sherrell, Sylvia Maulding and I saw the Palm Warbler again today near Stewart Pond. For those struggling to find this bird, I will offer a new set of directions. The earliest posts (back in Dec.) reported this bird as most often seen in the low row of trees along the west side of the main pond along Stewart Rd. Apparently for the last couple weeks the bird is most often seen with a few Yellow-rumps at the SW Corner of the largest pond out in the middle of the field between Stewart Pond and Bertelson Rd. It is a shorter walk in from Bertelson if you enter the field at the fence opening next the west end of the row of oaks that runs east-west across the north end of the large open field. Previous posts had not clearly mentioned that the bird was being found at this location. Today is was in the low saplings at the southwest corner of the pond out in the field. Both Paul and Sylvia had seen the Palm Warbler in the exact same place recently. This pond also had 4 Lesser Scaup, 4 Ring-necked Ducks and 6 Buffleheads today. We looked at all the ponds around Stewart Pond for the Ruff(s) and did not locate it. There was a small flock of L-B Dows at Stewart Pond but no other shorebirds. After I split up with Paul and Sylvia, I walked west along 5th Street (from Bertelson) to where it deadends in a large field. I walked across this field to the flooded area along Beltline Rd. where I found about 100 more Dows and two Dunlin, still no Ruff. There is also a nice little flooded area at the corner of Commerical and 7th streets back in the industrial area just west of Bertelson. Today I found only about 35 Killdeer and 3 Snipe there, but it is certainly a large enough area to get other shorebirds and probably worth checking occasionally. I would encourage anyone who sees the Palm Warbler to make sure and post an update with the specific location of your sighting. I am pretty sure that several Eugene birders are still hoping to see it. Good birding, Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Fri Jan 17 16:48:02 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Jo Co finds Message-ID: <002701c2be8b$433d0800$cca3a43f@hppav> Today (01-17-03) spend a bit of time in the Lower River Road area west of Grants Pass (Josephine Co). Now up to 88 species for Josephine Co for this year. I know...not that many, but then you try your luck here at this time of the year! Of interest: 1 PACIFIC LOON (at Roguelea Lane ponds) 1 EUROASIAN WIGEON (1st one I have found this winter) 1 OSPREY (on Lower River Road near some small ponds) 1 WHITE-TAILED KITE 2 BLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERON (Country Estates trailer park) several LESSER SCAUP (Roguelea ponds) 1 VIRGINIA RAIL (Lincoln Lane, lots of traffic, but hear one anyway) there was also a PILEATED WOODPECKER in a scrubby willow tree on Lincoln Road (surrounded by houses, blackberry rows and pasturelands). Dennis (north of Grants Pass) From sylviabird at worldnet.att.net Fri Jan 17 17:05:56 2003 From: sylviabird at worldnet.att.net (Sylvia Maulding) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Eugene Ruff Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20030117170556.00a32410@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Hello OBOL Midday today the RUFF was relocated at Stewart Pond in Eugene, by Diane Horgan. Paul Sherrell and I saw the bird also. It was with GW Teal and Shovelers. The Ruff was in the south east part of Stewart Pond, just down from the overlook. Sylvia Maulding (sylviabird@worldnet.att.net) Springfield From Jfitchen at aol.com Fri Jan 17 17:33:31 2003 From: Jfitchen at aol.com (Jfitchen@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Mult. Prairie Falcon persists Message-ID: <1a1.f39969d.2b5a08eb@aol.com> Hello Obol, At about 4 o'clock this afternoon I relocated the PRAIRIE FALCON reported last month by Wink Gross along Oak Island Road on Sauvie Island. The bird was perched high in the tallest oak tree at the 90-degree turn at Mile 2.5 of Oak Island Road. After about 10 minutes of posing in my scope, it flew off to the south in a leisurely fashion (for a falcon), affording nice looks at its black axillaries. Cheers, John Ftichen Portland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030117/2c1d4553/attachment.htm From FoxSparrows at aol.com Fri Jan 17 18:53:34 2003 From: FoxSparrows at aol.com (FoxSparrows@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Bandon, Coos Cty 1/17/03 Message-ID: <184.156f4a40.2b5a1bae@aol.com> In a message dated 1/17/2003 2:17:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, birdsong@harborside.com writes: > We did run into a VBE, who claimed to have had another one of these > mystery flocks of WTSP's out on the mud of Bandon Marsh. But since we > were with the real Mr. Trodenki, we knew it had to be a VBE, so there > was no need to check the serial number, but certainly the poor fellow is > having some serious internal computing malfunctions, and we suggested to > the VBE that it go in for repairs soon before it gets too haywire. Word > has it that the shop will take about 10 days or so and then the > Trodenki's will be back in force - all three of them! : ) > This is good news... As I understand it, all of the VBE units are programmed to receive suggestions for self-repair, as is the biological unit. If this unit had continued to bird (operate) without encountering a sympathetic life-form, we may soon have received reports of rafts of Thick-billed Muirs along the Bandon Jetties, flocks of Wagtails of one sort or another near Mingus Park, or even Wallcreepers on a downtown Coos Bay building. Eventually, it might have even proclaimed to a live birder that G.W. Bush is really a greenie, and, of course, even a novice birder would know better. Since the VBE units are essentially holographic projections (some suspect that they are projected to the surface via satellite), this is a programming issue rather than a mechanical repair problem. During the reprogramming cycle, we may not notice any T. Rodenkirk units in circulation in Oregon for a week or so... I believe that the FBI, Ornithological Unit, X-Files Division intends to claim that all of the units (and the biological unit) will be in FLORIDA during this time, assisting with an issue of national security. If you can believe it, the agency asserts that viewing Roseate Spoonbills in January is an issue of NATIONAL SECURITY, but I think that this is all an elaborate ruse on the part of the biological unit, which will claim to be visiting family. If, however, we were to contact this alleged family, we would find that none of them are aware of any visit... since all of the T. Rodenkirks will be birding virtually all of the time... As Kurt Vonnegut said... "and so it goes." R. T. Peterson Hisself Reporting from an undisclosed location -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030117/819b3349/attachment.htm From tweel at tillanet.com Fri Jan 17 20:19:19 2003 From: tweel at tillanet.com (Margaret) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: No show Flycatcher Message-ID: <005301c2bea8$e6e27860$56cfa2cd@Tweelinckx> I think we have an early bird that visits the golf ponds in Woodburn. I was there a little before 10AM but did not see the vermilion flycatcher all day and I left at 4 PM on Friday. Several people searched the area. A kestrel came in at 3PM and stayed in various trees around the ponds for about an hour. Not many birds and very cool breeze. Marg Tweelinckx Cape Meares From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Fri Jan 17 21:06:22 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Thought problem: reporting Scaup Message-ID: <001201c2beaf$79804980$50c063d8@pauls> I'd like to pose a thought question to OBOL. Let me ask those who "already know" the answer, i.e. past and present CBC regional editors, to hold their comments for a couple days to let the rest of OBOL mull over the question(s). The Situation: Your team is doing a Christmas Bird Count. You are at a large body of water 200 miles from the coast. You see a group of 20 scaup close to shore, actively feeding. You are able to clearly see that there are 19 Lesser Scaup and 1 Greater Scaup. Further out on the water is another group of 100 sleeping ducks. You can tell that they are also scaup, no other species, but they are too far to see much more. One bird in that flock has white sides. It is late in the afternoon, rain is beginning, it is cold and windy, and you have another stop to make before dark. The question: 1. What do you report at the CBC countdown? a) 1 Greater Scaup, 19 Lesser Scaup, 100 scaup sp. b) 2 Greater Scaup, 19 Lesser Scaup, 99 scaup sp. b) 1 Greater Scaup, 119 Lesser Scaup c) 2 Greater Scaup, 118 Lesser Scaup 2. If the group in front of you was composed of 6 Greater Scaup and 14 Lesser Scaup, would that change your answer? 3. If the group in front of you was 1 Greater Scaup and 19 Lesser Scaup, but the distant group had 6 light-sided birds split off from the other 94, what would you say? 4. Do you believe there is a "right answer" to these questions? Those who like can repeat the exercise with dowitchers, yellowlegs, etc, etc.... Good birding everyone, Paul T. Sullivan From roberts at oregoncoast.com Thu Jan 16 22:28:08 2003 From: roberts at oregoncoast.com (craig roberts) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Saw-whet Owl Message-ID: <000a01c2bdf1$9c30b140$76960ed0@Roberts> Hi Obol, A Saw-whet Owl has been perching repeatedly on the pavement of a fairly busy road near our place in Netarts the past few nights. My family had seen it several times and tonight I finally saw it. In the headlights it looked so bleached out that I could not be absolutely sure it wasn't a Screech with the ear tufts down, but I was able to go get binoculars, return and relocate it to be sure. (Saw-whet is much more common in my neighborhood...in fact I have never had a Screech at my house.) It was a cold clear night and I doubt the road is retaining enough heat at 10 PM to be worth sitting on for that reason. The bird is an adult and appears healthy, though tame as is usual for this species. If it is hunting, it seems that a perch on an overhanging branch would be preferable. Any thoughts out there as to why this bird might be using this perilous perch so frequently? I should note that it was silent and did not respond to calls while I was trying to relocate it. Craig Roberts -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030116/ca823ea4/attachment.htm From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Fri Jan 17 22:32:47 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: another Christmas Bird Count Odyssey Message-ID: <002e01c2bebb$8264c880$50c063d8@pauls> Dennis Vroman wrote a while ago about a rafting Black Phoebe and asked if other Christmas Bird counters had interesting sightings beyond the numbers. In 1984-85 I wrote a couple articles about my participation in multiple CBC's, titled "A CBC Odyssey," and "A CBC Odyssey Revisited." I enjoy doing Christmas Bird Counts. I find it is a way to learn local spots, meet other birders and share in the fun of local community birding. I've done 47 of Oregon's 50 CBC's. I did 11 counts in 2000. This year I started off with Union County on Saturday, Dec. 14. The wind was blowing so hard that a N. Harrier struggled to make progress only 1' off the ground. I was able to show Pat Kelly his first Virginia Rail. Sunday, Dec. 15, in Wallowa county I had a great day in my favorite place, with special friends, doing a favorite activity. We tallied 33 American Tree Sparrows NE of Enterprise, and felt proud of finding 1 Gray-crowned Rosy Finch until we learned that another team had found 50 of them at the dump. On Saturday, Dec. 21, Esther Marple, Al Bammann and I were the whole team, one vehicle, for the Lower Owyhee River count. At one bridge Esther found a Townsend's Solitaire, Al led us to look straight down on a Virginia Rail, and I found a White-throated Sparrow. We tallied 300 White-crowned Sparrows. The next day just south of Baker City, Pat Kelly and I could only find 1 White-crowned Sparrow, but the dump had 120 Ravens. Elevation and snow made the difference. On Friday, Dec. 27, Eric Wegner and I did the Julia Butler Hansen NWR section of the Wahkiakum count, again in gale-force winds. A Peregrine, 9 White-tailed Kites, 6 Virginia Rails, and a Black Phoebe were our best finds. Whitecaps on the Columbia River kept us away from all the river islands. It was wet, wet, wet on Saturday, Dec. 28, around Lake Oswego on the Portland CBC. The biggest effort went into drying optics. The early morning fly-in of 208 Double-crested Cormorants was a spectacle. Sunday, Dec. 29, I joined Jamie Simmons to do the Wasco county edge of the Hood River count. We found our assigned WB Nuthatches, but missed Mountain Quail and Wild Turkey. Our best find was 2 Golden Eagles crossing the county line. That evening I drove up to a known spot and called up a Virginia Rail, which had been missed earlier in the day. Jan. 1, 2003, I traveled to Brownsville and joined Jeff Fleischer to do the sector west of I-5. We found a flock of swans outside the circle, but flying into it. A Snow Goose was out there too. Later in the day, we checked the swan flock in the circle and refound the Snow Goose in the circle. On Saturday, Jan. 4, I joined Wayne Hoffmann's team around Yaquina Head. Another day of miserable weather, but we found a Swamp Sparrow, and finally some Wrentits at the end of the day. The hospitality of Rebecca Cheek and Warren Nelson was superlative, over-the-top. Finally, on Sunday, Jan. 5, I rejoined Jeff Fleischer for the Albany portion of the Albany-Airlie count. Simpson park held many birds in the fog. In the afternoon we found 4 Short-eared Owls and 19 Great Egrets on Conser Road. A White-throated Sparrow at a feeder was found with the last bit of daylight. If you've read this far and are counting, that's 10 CBC's (CBC's #115 - #124 for me). More importantly, it was lots of good times with good people. Grist for the mill of memories: "Jake, remember when we were doing the count in miserable weather and you said "What's that in that bush?' and it was a .... The only one found on that count...." Good birding everyone, Paul T. Sullivan From 2cbird at charter.net Sat Jan 18 08:40:38 2003 From: 2cbird at charter.net (ccorder) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Hunting Bobwhites in Ore References: Message-ID: <018a01c2bf10$558114e0$03ddbd42@corder> At google.com search by Oregon Bobwhite and see some of the outfitters that release Bobwhite in Oregon for others to kill. Also showing up on the search are recent OBOL posts. Have you ever done a google search of your name? Good Birding CraigCorder 2cbird@charter.net From tcherzig at gorge.net Sat Jan 18 09:19:40 2003 From: tcherzig at gorge.net (Tom Herzig) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Thought problem: reporting Scaup References: Message-ID: <3E298CAC.7060706@gorge.net> >OBOL: > >I'd like to pose a thought question to OBOL. Let me ask those who "already >know" the answer, i.e. past and present CBC regional editors, to hold their >comments for a couple days to let the rest of OBOL mull over the >question(s). > >The Situation: >Your team is doing a Christmas Bird Count. You are at a large body of water >200 miles from the coast. You see a group of 20 scaup close to shore, >actively feeding. You are able to clearly see that there are 19 Lesser >Scaup and 1 Greater Scaup. Further out on the water is another group of 100 >sleeping ducks. You can tell that they are also scaup, no other species, >but they are too far to see much more. One bird in that flock has white >sides. It is late in the afternoon, rain is beginning, it is cold and windy, >and you have another stop to make before dark. > >The question: >1. What do you report at the CBC countdown? >a) 1 Greater Scaup, 19 Lesser Scaup, 100 scaup sp. >b) 2 Greater Scaup, 19 Lesser Scaup, 99 scaup sp. >b) 1 Greater Scaup, 119 Lesser Scaup >c) 2 Greater Scaup, 118 Lesser Scaup > I would choose (b) >2. If the group in front of you was composed of 6 Greater Scaup and 14 >Lesser Scaup, would that change your answer? Yes, 14 Lesser, 7 Greater and 99 Scaup Sp. > > >3. If the group in front of you was 1 Greater Scaup and 19 Lesser Scaup, but >the distant group had 6 light-sided birds split off from the other 94, what >would you say? 19 Lesser, 7 Greater and 94 Scaup Sp. > >4. Do you believe there is a "right answer" to these questions? I feel that it is right as it can be under the circumstances. > >Those who like can repeat the exercise with dowitchers, yellowlegs, etc, >etc.... > >Good birding everyone, > >Paul T. Sullivan > > > > > > > > > From kestrel at aaahawk.com Sat Jan 18 10:13:47 2003 From: kestrel at aaahawk.com (Carol Ledford) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: How do I get a list of obol subscribers? Message-ID: Does the "review OBOL list" command provide email addresses for all subscribers in addition to their names? I certainly hope not. This was a problem a previous list owner encountered when the list was available to the world for a short time, resulting in the list receiving oodles of junk mail (spam) and viruses for a while several months ago. I do not want my email address available for all the world to access! I get too much spam email already! Thanks for any enlightenment. Carol Ledford From elepaio at neucomm.net Sat Jan 18 12:56:33 2003 From: elepaio at neucomm.net (elepaio@neucomm.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Thought problem: reporting Scaup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65337.162.58.35.200.1042923393.squirrel@webmail.neucomm.net> confusion to to list "bird sp." on far off flocks of locally common birds on the off chance that there may be something similar but uncommon in there. If I see a flock of swans in the valley then they are Tundra Swans unless I'm sure otherwise. I don't log "swan sp." because there may be a Trumpeter among them. If I was from out of area and saw a local list of birds with a large number of Tundras and also a large number of "swan sp." then I'd erroneously assume there's a good chance that I could find something other than Tundras in any flock of swans I came across. So, a far off flock of scaup inland are Lessers. If I also see some Greaters nearby that's good and noteworthy but it doesn't change the fact that 99% of inland scaup are Lessers. Of course that doesn't mean if I see 100 scaup afar that I log 1 Greater just on probability. There may well be 1 out there but documentation of uncommon birds requires definite proof. If my count of 100 Lesser Scaup is off by 1 it won't make any statistical difference. If we were to list "bird sp." whenever there was a chance a common bird may be something else our field notes would be awash in indecision. If I saw a Screech Owl but didn't hear it should I list Screech Owl sp. That huge flock of Least Sandpipers may contain a Stint. Maybe 1 of those Ibis are a Glossy. How do we count female Green-Wiged Teal once the Eurasian form becomes a full species? Do you scrutinize every Clif Swallow that zips by to be sure it isn't a Cave Swallow? We can of course all separate Vaux's and Chimney Swifts at a glance. The list could go on for pages. Every situation is unique of course and location and birder familiarity with the area are big factors. You should never list a bird unless you're sure of its identity but common sense has to have a role in your decision also. That's my 2 cents - it's a slow day at work. Mark Nikas > Paul T. Sullivan wrote: > >>OBOL: >> >>I'd like to pose a thought question to OBOL. Let me ask those who >> "already know" the answer, i.e. past and present CBC regional editors, >> to hold their comments for a couple days to let the rest of OBOL mull >> over the >>question(s). >> >>The Situation: >>Your team is doing a Christmas Bird Count. You are at a large body of >> water 200 miles from the coast. You see a group of 20 scaup close to >> shore, actively feeding. You are able to clearly see that there are 19 >> Lesser Scaup and 1 Greater Scaup. Further out on the water is another >> group of 100 sleeping ducks. You can tell that they are also scaup, no >> other species, but they are too far to see much more. One bird in that >> flock has white sides. It is late in the afternoon, rain is beginning, >> it is cold and windy, and you have another stop to make before dark. >> >>The question: >>1. What do you report at the CBC countdown? >>a) 1 Greater Scaup, 19 Lesser Scaup, 100 scaup sp. >>b) 2 Greater Scaup, 19 Lesser Scaup, 99 scaup sp. >>b) 1 Greater Scaup, 119 Lesser Scaup >>c) 2 Greater Scaup, 118 Lesser Scaup >> >>Good birding everyone, >> >>Paul T. Sullivan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From celata at pacifier.com Sat Jan 18 12:58:43 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Columbia Estuary Goose counts - 1/18/2003 Message-ID: <3E29C002.3BC4B0F5@pacifier.com> It's not often that I get messages from respected birders in two different states asking me the same question which was, "how come you haven't found that missing Bean Goose?" So I figured I'd better put aside efforts to tally White-throated Sparrows and Great Gray Owls in Clatsop County and spend the morning sifting through flocks of CANADA GOOSES. Here are my results. Chinook Reikola Youngs total Valley Unit Bay ----------------------------------------------------------------- small form CAGO 411 700 1111 large form CAGO 14 127 47 188 dusky CAGO 8 20 28 undetermined form 950 950 ----------------------------------------------------------------- all Canada Geese 433 1097 747 2277 White-fronted Goose 1 White-tailed Kite 2 The large mixed flock at Reikola was just to complicated for me to sort by size, though I would guess a third were Aleutian/Cackling. There were also quite a few pale medium size birds (Lesser's?). I also had 22 large form birds not listed above at Black Lake (Ilwaco). -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From birdsong at harborside.com Sat Jan 18 13:13:01 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Thought problem: reporting Scaup References: Message-ID: <3E29C35D.7060707@harborside.com> birds did you ID? Count them. The rest that were not identified, are sp. and there is no right answer to these questions...... Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com Paul T. Sullivan wrote: > OBOL: > > I'd like to pose a thought question to OBOL. Let me ask those who "already > know" the answer, i.e. past and present CBC regional editors, to hold their > comments for a couple days to let the rest of OBOL mull over the > question(s). > > The Situation: > Your team is doing a Christmas Bird Count. You are at a large body of water > 200 miles from the coast. You see a group of 20 scaup close to shore, > actively feeding. You are able to clearly see that there are 19 Lesser > Scaup and 1 Greater Scaup. Further out on the water is another group of 100 > sleeping ducks. You can tell that they are also scaup, no other species, > but they are too far to see much more. One bird in that flock has white > sides. It is late in the afternoon, rain is beginning, it is cold and windy, > and you have another stop to make before dark. > > The question: > 1. What do you report at the CBC countdown? > a) 1 Greater Scaup, 19 Lesser Scaup, 100 scaup sp. > b) 2 Greater Scaup, 19 Lesser Scaup, 99 scaup sp. > b) 1 Greater Scaup, 119 Lesser Scaup > c) 2 Greater Scaup, 118 Lesser Scaup > > 2. If the group in front of you was composed of 6 Greater Scaup and 14 > Lesser Scaup, would that change your answer? > > 3. If the group in front of you was 1 Greater Scaup and 19 Lesser Scaup, but > the distant group had 6 light-sided birds split off from the other 94, what > would you say? > > 4. Do you believe there is a "right answer" to these questions? > > Those who like can repeat the exercise with dowitchers, yellowlegs, etc, > etc.... > > Good birding everyone, > > Paul T. Sullivan > > > > > > > > > From greg at thebirdguide.com Sat Jan 18 13:26:18 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (Greg Gillson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Fw: Re:Bird Book Message-ID: <007a01c2bf38$3e97ba40$c9a5efd8@guide> FYI Greg Gillson Cornelius, Oregon greg@thebirdguide.com http://thebirdguide.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:00 PM Subject: Re:Bird Book > Hi Greg: > > I'd appreciate it, if you'd post this Msg. to Obol for me: > > Greetings: > > I have 2 copies of _Birds of America_, edited by Gilbert Pearson > and John Burroughs, with beautiful plates by Fuertes and first > published in 1917. I want to give away one copy to one of you > younger birders out there. > > Please respond to me directly, if you're interested. First come, > first served. > > > Sheila > > S. B. Fitzpatrick > Philomath, OR 97370 > curlew@casco.net > > From vireogirl at yahoo.com Sat Jan 18 13:40:58 2003 From: vireogirl at yahoo.com (Vjera Arnold) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: No Ruff Saturday am Message-ID: <20030118214058.11827.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> OBOLers, Stopped by Stewart Pond around noon today (1/18). Don DeWitt and Bob Sites were there, and had not found the Ruff yet. My brother Thad and I looked for a while with them, without finding it. We left after the flock of DOWITCHERS flushed. We did not try for the Palm Warbler. We were on our way back from Florence, where Thad and I were able to see the BALTIMORE ORIOLE at 9:35 am. It was there before we arrived, but left when we went into the yard on Kingwood Street. We got great looks at it about 40 minutes later, when it returned to feed. Vjera Arnold Eugene, OR vireogirl@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Irons5 at aol.com Sat Jan 18 13:56:33 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Thought problem: reporting Scaup Message-ID: <1a0.f5a9993.2b5b2791@aol.com> Paul poses an interesting question. By focusing the question on scaup, as opposed to some of the pairs suggested by Mark Nikas, we have to consider that distribution of wintering scaup flocks is poorly treated in many sources. For years there has been a misconception that inland scaup are by default Lessers. Statistically speaking, a solid argument can be made that inland birds, particularly birds on small lakes and ponds, are more likely Lessers. However, there are situations inland where Greaters far outnumber Lessers in winter. This is most apparent along the middle Columbia River from about Hood River County east to Umatilla County. Large rafts of mostly Greater Scaup winter along this stretch of the river. Locally (Eugene), there has been a small flock of Greater Scaup for several consecutive winters on Kirk Pond at the north end of Fern Ridge Reservoir. In my experience, Lessers do not use this pond much. Based on conventional wisdom, many observers would assume that the Kirk Pond birds (on a relatively small inland pond) were Lessers if they didn't look closely. In most of the cases Mark mentions, I believe it makes sense to report birds as the "expected" species. However, in the case of scaup, I think use of "scaup sp." is prudent because there is no safe assumption. I try not to report scaup to species unless I have taken a close look at the majority of birds in a flock. My experiences in the Columbia Gorge and with small "out of place" flocks of Greaters elsewhere shattered my previous assumptions about scaup long ago. Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From dan at heyerly.com Sat Jan 18 14:00:08 2003 From: dan at heyerly.com (Dan Heyerly) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Palm Warbler -yes; Ruff -no Message-ID: <001701c2bf3c$f7b56b40$06fea8c0@knowledge1> Sat. 1/18/2003 obolins, Yesterday at 4pm or so Anne and I found the Palm Warbler in the willows at the SW corner of the westernmost pond at the Stewart pond complex previously described by D.Irons. It was associating with a flock of y-rumps probably a dozen strong. Don DeWitt, and three other birders (Troy Guy and ?? Sanzenbacher - sorry if the spelling is incorrect - from Corvallis and one other gentleman from Salem - sorry I forgot your name) came by and I believe all got looks at the bird. A couple group of yellowlegs flew by at various times. One group numbered about 25 and it was a pure group. Another group with a few dows and one other shorebird (appeared to be chunkier, but the views I got were inconclusive) also went by off to the west from Stewart pond, as if they were heading for the area at the end of W. 5th near Belt Line Rd. where Irons and we checked later. We didn't find a Ruff there either. In addition to the Buffleheads, R-N Duck, and Lesser Scaup, there was a small group of Common Mergs. there that took off to the west as well. I would be interested to hear from Sylvia regarding what time she, Diane Horgan, and Paul Sherrell saw the Ruff. Did we leave too early?? We perfunctorily checked the eastern side of the pond below the overlook before we left at about 445pm but did not see a shorebird. I guess our minds were fuzzed due to the stop at Euphoria Chocolate at the corner. Hey, 20% off on all stock and 50% off Christmas chocolate. What more do you want? Sorry about the non-bird related outburst . . . but some of the chocolate was molded into the form of an Irish Setter and Labrador Retriever, favorites of bird hunters . . . . OK. I'll stop. Oh, forgot to mention the 30 white throated sparrows swimming in the deep pond off Grimes St. ;) . . . . Someone ask Rodenkirk if it has anything to do with global warming. Dan dan@heyerly.com From greg at thebirdguide.com Sat Jan 18 14:28:25 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (Greg Gillson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: the review command Message-ID: <00dc01c2bf40$ebe8a620$c9a5efd8@guide> Only subscribed members can post to OBOL or see the list of members. Of course, once I post a message, it becomes public, and anyone can see my name and email address and message I sent. (A quick Google search on my name and OBOL revealed 176 web sites that contain my name linked to OBOL. Most of these are probably archives of some sort. Carol, a similar search found you on only 10 web sites.) OBOL should be free from outsiders getting a list of all members and drowning us in junk mail. However, you still can be contacted individually. The ability to get a fellow birder's e-mail address is so convenient that I am loathe to turn off that feature. Greg Gillson Cornelius, Oregon greg@thebirdguide.com http://thebirdguide.com From newhouse at efn.org Sat Jan 18 16:22:56 2003 From: newhouse at efn.org (Bruce Newhouse) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: How do I get a list of obol subscribers? References: Message-ID: <3E29EFE0.65E9AF16@efn.org> I tried it (you can too!), and unfortunately, it does list e-mail addresses. Bruce Newhouse in Eugene Carol Ledford wrote: > Does the "review OBOL list" command provide email addresses for all > subscribers in addition to their names? I certainly hope not. This was a > problem a previous list owner encountered when the list was available to > the world for a short time, resulting in the list receiving oodles of junk > mail (spam) and viruses for a while several months ago. I do not want my > email address available for all the world to access! I get too much spam > email already! > > Thanks for any enlightenment. > > Carol Ledford From lawde13 at cableone.net Sat Jan 18 16:46:22 2003 From: lawde13 at cableone.net (Dave Lawrence) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: How do I get a list of obol subscribers? References: Message-ID: <001801c2bf54$3063cc40$ee947418@dave> I sent this to Carol earlier, but since there is continued concern over this issue, I thought maybe others would want this information. "It certainly does provide a list of all subscribers with email addresses. Fortunately, the command to get this list is in general rather obscure and unknown, until of course it was recently posted on OBOL. On the good side, people have short memories and it will soon be forgotten. However, if one is really all that concerned about whether or not their email address and name is accessible, they probably should not sign up to be a member of OBOL or any other mailing list. For instance, when I opened your post asking this question, all I had to do was place my mouse cursor over your name in the "from:" line and right click and then click on properties and your email address was readily displayed." Please note that I'm not trying to discourage OBOL membership, just reminding everyone that on the internet and email servers, things are not as secure as some would like to believe. And that you can't have everything OBOL has to offer and still expect total security. Dave Lawrence lawde13@cableone.net Caldwell, ID 83607 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Newhouse" To: "Obol" Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:22 PM Subject: [obol] re: How do I get a list of obol subscribers? > I tried it (you can too!), and unfortunately, it does list e-mail addresses. > From malbirds at fmtc.com Sat Jan 18 17:56:08 2003 From: malbirds at fmtc.com (ekmarple) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Evening walk Message-ID: <000701c2bf5d$f04f7c80$9ba8bbd0@v21ys> E OR, West of Vale I just came in from a short walk to the creek - the geese are heading for Bully Ck Res. for the night, two Great Horned Owls are really ' hooting' from across the creek 3 pheasant hens came from the corn field and settled into the large brush patches the Great Blue Heron was in it's usual roost Junco's and Song Sparrows calling as they settled in the thick lilac bushes my yard Morning Doves flew to the top branches of the huge elm tree while the other headed for the cottonwoods over on the NW corn of the farm. Even the old doe was wading the creek, headed for the hay fields This is one of my favorite times of the day - it is bundle up weather but well worth the effort! Marple From camgco32 at earthlink.net Sat Jan 18 17:15:10 2003 From: camgco32 at earthlink.net (John Lawes) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: North Portland Evening walk Message-ID: <000401c2bf58$38fe1c80$b8c8bf3f@camgco32earthlink.net> Starting with the vocalizing COOPER'S HAWK perched in the tree outside our little house, this evening was quite birdy, with probably half a dozen very vocal mixed flocks of JUNCOS, HOUSE FINCHES and, yes, the dreaded HOUSE SPARROWS, all chattering in the neighborhood hedges. Head at least two PINE SISKINS high in the douglas-firs along with the usual compliment of CROWS, SCRUB JAYS and the evening flight of DOUBLE-CRESTED CORMORANTS flying back to the Willamette for the night. Quite a pleasant night. Perhaps a try for a longspur tomorrow... J. Lawes From sheranwr at earthlink.net Sat Jan 18 17:15:15 2003 From: sheranwr at earthlink.net (Sheran Wright) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Vermillion Flycatcher 1/18 - YES Message-ID: <000d01c2bf58$3b406b60$88071ad8@0022197781> I watched the Woodburn Vermillion Flycatcher flitting around between 4:15 and 4:30 p.m. this afternoon. It was hanging out around the pond on the west side of Hazelnut. Other birders said they had seen it earlier in the afternoon there and at the pond on the east side of Hazelnut. Sheran Wright Portland From WeberHome at att.net Sat Jan 18 18:35:22 2003 From: WeberHome at att.net (Cliff & Joanne) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Sauvie Island Message-ID: OBOL; Hello! It was very inspirational today to watch a group of snow-bunny type, twenty-something, young people get all worked up and excited over a common Red Tail Hawk at the Coon Point parking lot. (snow bunnies are city-bred youngsters who pile into their cars and head for the mountains whenever it snows.) We had seen so many Red Tails already on Sauvie Island by that time that one more was pretty much redundant today; but those kids were reacting to the Coon Point Red Tail in such a way that we strongly suspected it might have been the very first sighting for many of them. The hawk had flown in and landed in one of the leafless trees just over the dike and we saw it up there before we saw the kids as we came down the street on Reeder Road. (We had been at Coon Point earlier, and following the example of an advanced birder we met this past Spring, we began our birding right from the parking lot as soon as we got out of the car. Our reward? A little flock of Mustard Heads (Golden-crowned Sparrows) were browsing amidst unraked leaves across the street alongside the kennel's driveway entrance.) At the (excellent) viewing shelter past Reeder Beach store, we met a young couple who had no optics (and no hats and coats) who stopped by to see if there were any Bald Eagles in the area. Just by dumb luck, the forces of nature, and perfect timing, one of us had focused on a distant Bald Eagle with our Nikon Fieldscope just minutes before the couple arrived (while the other was in the car nibbling on barbecued chicken and pretzels), and we encouraged them to take a look. A Red Tail was perched close enough to the Eagle so that the young couple got to see two good sized raptors in the same field of view. They were also treated to fly-by's of two girl-style Northern Harriers so that their (non intended) birding trip was very rewarding for them today. The Eagle eventually left its perch, soared down to an island (frightening about a zillion pin-tails into panicked, swirling flight) and leisurely took a drink of water before moving off further away from us. You know, it's really difficult to believe that there are still young people in America who love nature. You would think that with all the CD's, stereos, boom boxes, movies, DVD's, rap culture, Vin Diesel's XXX mentality, and everything else that's cool vying for their attention, that young people would think that birding was somehow stupid, uncool, and below them. But no. There's still plenty who seem to long for a connection to nature. Where: Coon Point— 2003 Portland Thomas Guide page 505, square C3. Watch for the parking lot and the honey bucket (porta potty). Where Else: Reeder Road Shelter— 2003 Portland Thomas Guide page 445, square F4. This is a very, very nice shelter, good floor, good roof, banister, and doubles as a shelter and a kiosk. Wheelchair Friendly? Yes. Both sites have sloping access ramps. Restrooms? Yes. Both sites have porta-potties. Cliff & Joanne Beaverton From greg at thebirdguide.com Sat Jan 18 18:53:48 2003 From: greg at thebirdguide.com (Greg Gillson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: How do I get a list of obol subscribers? Message-ID: <003201c2bf65$fea937a0$d2b3efd8@guide> Some have worried that a person could sign up for OBOL get the list of members and unsubscribe without anyone knowing. That is possible, but not likely. What I forgot to add to my post about OBOL being a private list is that all subscribers have to be APPROVED BY THE LIST OWNERS. Right now that is me and Douglas Robinson. Now it is possible that we could approve someone that was a spammer, but for the most part spammers don't use a permanent address. I think we'd recognize it as such. If we have questions, we'll send e-mail to them confirming who they are. We've had 20 new subscribers to the list over the last 2 weeks. OBOL has existed as it is for several years and is more secure now than ever. We want to be careful, but not paranoid. Again, OBOL is a Private list. This means several things. 1) OBOL is not listed on OSU's directory of mailing lists, 2) Only members can post messages, 3) Only members can get look up other member's addresses, 4) All new subscribers must be APPROVED by Doug or myself It is difficult for spammers to get to our list. And we haven't had recent problems. Greg Gillson Cornelius, Oregon greg@thebirdguide.com http://thebirdguide.com From jacobsenp at fsl.orst.edu Sat Jan 18 18:54:04 2003 From: jacobsenp at fsl.orst.edu (Jacobsen, Paul) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Short-eared owl Message-ID: This evening, Jan 18, we saw a short-eared owl in the meadow on top of the hill, near the overlook. It circled the meadow area for about five minutes and provided quite a show. We were there just after the sun dropped below the horizon, but while there was still plenty of light for viewing. From godwit at worldnet.att.net Sat Jan 18 19:00:59 2003 From: godwit at worldnet.att.net (Ruth Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur and beyond Message-ID: <006a01c2bf66$fefe6710$2a8e520c@GODWIT> Hello OBOLers, Today my mother and I ventured south into Oregon beginning in Portland where the MCCOWN'S LONGSPUR was found at the previously listed location near Marine Drive in Portland's Industrial area. The bird was briefly found soon after our arrival to the location at 8am amongst a flock of 30 Horned Larks,then the the entire flock were flushed from a single pass made by an adult Peregrine Falcon. The entire flock flew east high into the air beyond Columbia Slough. We drove to the presumed location,but upon further searching we were only able to locate a flock of 40+ Horned Larks. We returned back to the original location where the bird was being observed by a group of birders,including Ken Knittle and Mike and MerryLynn Denny along with several Oregon birders. The bird was viewed for approxiatmetly 30 minutes during our second visit after 10am until te bird again flew east towards Columbia Slough into another sparsely vegetated field. During our entire visit to the location we enjoyed the balmy weather that remained throughout the entire day with fairly cold southerly winds in the afternoon as we where birding the Ridgefield-Vancouver Lake area. The McCown's Longspur was well observed in spotting scopes as it foraged low on the sandy ground in a Horned Lark flock,but due to the wariness of the nearby Horned Larks closenss to the bird was limited. Other species that were observed at this location included: 1 Great Egret(flying over) 1 Am.Kestrel 5 Western Meadowlarks During the mid afternoon Ken Knittle joined us as we birded the Ridgefield NWR complex with a visit to the Shillapoo Wildlife Area near Vancouver Lake. Our best highlights were encountered along the River S Unit of Ridgefield NWR with several highlights that were noted including the following: 1 immature Trumpeter Swan(at Carty Lake at the Carty Unit of Ridgefield NWR) 2 Snow Geese 3 male Canvasback 1 female Greater Scaup 1 immature Red-shouldered Hawk 15 Sandhill Cranes 1 Red-breasted Sapsucker 2 Tree Swallows 3 Violet-green Swallows 30+ Barn Swallows 12+ Yellow-rumped Warblers 2 SWAMP SPARROWS 1 Western Meadowlark Continuing towards Vancouver Lake 2 Great Egrets were observed along Seward Rd. north of the community of Felida and 6 additional birds were observed at the Shillapoo Wildlife Area north of Vancouver Lake. 8 Western Grebes were noted at the south end of Vancouver Lake. Good birding, Ruth and Patrick Sullivan godwit@worldnet.att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030118/0b8e0da0/attachment.htm From celata at pacifier.com Sat Jan 18 19:49:40 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Thought problem: reporting Scaup References: Message-ID: <3E2A2054.AEE62881@pacifier.com> Paul, of course, knows there's no correct answer to this problem and much depends on the circumstance. Since he framed it around Christmas bird counts, the best solutions is the most conservative choice, don't guess, list them as scaup species. If it were birdathon, however, you'd assume there was a Tufted Duck in the flock... -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From whoffman at pioneer.net Sat Jan 18 20:17:36 2003 From: whoffman at pioneer.net (whoffman@pioneer.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Yachats Gulls Message-ID: <3E2A26E0.1ABF@pioneer.net> I visited yachats this afternoon and scoped the gulls roosting on the sand in the river mouth, and at other locations up and down the beach. At least 800 birds were present, dominated by Western Gulls, Glaucous-winged Gulls, and their bastard offspring. Also present were perhaps 200 Mew Gulls, a dozen or so Herring Gulls, a few more than that Thayer's Gulls, and a bird that I tried unsuccessfully to turn into a Kumlien's Gull (I couldn't eliminate GW x Western, but it didn't really look like one). In the process I realized, very belatedly, that this location may beone of the best gull sites on the coast, and deserves much more scrutiny than I have given it in the past. Other Lincoln county sites like lower Siletz Bay and lower Yaquina Bay get large numbers of gulls when storms chase them in off the ocean. Yachats seems to hold substantial numbers even in good weather, as today. (Earlier this afternoon I visited the Yaquina south jetty and found 6 gulls in the bathing pool and maybe 5 more on the bay, and only 2 species.) In mid-late fall, Yachats often has 1000 or more California Gulls after they have become uncommon on the rest of our coast. I often see gulls feeding in the surf at Yachats. Today about 30 Mew Gulls were catching small fish (~3" length) off the sand beach in the river mouth, and several young Thayer's Gulls were fishing in a cove north of the river mouth (catching 4" fish). It appears that bait fish asre more consistently peresent near shore here than elsewhere. Possibly the surf smelt have something to do with this, but I imagine other species are involved as well. Anyway, I think this place could use more attention. From jeffgill at teleport.com Sat Jan 18 19:32:02 2003 From: jeffgill at teleport.com (Jeff Gilligan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: goose chase 3 (negative) Message-ID: Owen Schmidt and I tried Columbia County and the Brownsmead area in Clatsop County on Saturday in search of the missing Washington Bean Goose. Folks - there are a lot of geese in western Oregon. We have not yet found the Bean Goose, and plan to take a weekend off before the next attempt. Birds of interest: Individual WHITE-TAILED KITES at Deer Island and near Clatskanie, both in Columbia County. 1 dark-phase ROUGH-LEGGED HAWK in the Scapoose Bottoms. 3 GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE in the Scappoose Bottoms, and one at the Trojan Nuclear Plant. There seem to be few swans around this winter. From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Sat Jan 18 20:52:38 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: correction to CBC odyssey -- Ross' Goose in Linn county Message-ID: <001e01c2bf76$b9b22060$75c663d8@pauls> Jeff Fleischer and Jeff Harding both reminded me that the white goose that Jeff F. and I found on the Brownsville CBC Jan. 1, 2003, was a ROSS' GOOSE, not a Snow Goose as I mentioned in my story. I was writing from memory. The ROSS' GOOSE was well-seen both in the morning outside the circle and again in the afternoon inside the circle. It was a small white goose with a round head. The bill was small, had no grin patch, and was rough and gray at the base. The wingtips were black. In the morning we found it among the 100's of Tundra Swans along the Calapooia River bottoms, just north of Linn West Dr. This is just west of I-5. DeLorme p.47, A8. In the afternoon we found it in the swan flock along Lake Creek Dr. just east of I-5. DeLorme, p.47, B8. Not only was this bird new for the Brownsville CBC, it was a new species for Linn county. Good birding, Paul T. Sullivan From acontrer at mindspring.com Sat Jan 18 21:02:17 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Yachats Gulls In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I agree wholeheartedly with Wayne about Yachats as a gull study site. When I am birding the north coast of Lane Co I always run up to Yachats (in foreign Lincoln Co.) to check that flock because it is the best consistent roost site between the Siltcoos River and Siletz spit (Waldport is sometimes good but gets doggy more often). It is also larger than any other roost site that I know of between Bandon and Siletz spit. One feature that the Yachats site has that makes it so consistent is that the "estuary" is not as flat as some others, so even during high tides and storm surge conditions there is usually exposed shingle and mud at the upper end of the inlet. I don't know of another site on the central coast (maybe the entire coast) that has this "tilted" aspect. I suspect that the site's availability under all conditions is what makes it so popular. It is not as consistent in late summer because the turista index is higher, but even then the area along the creek has gulls, mainly Californias. The most convenient place for scoping the whole area is the small pullout on the north side of the inlet, halfway between 101 and the turista park by the outer rocks. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From christopher.butler at wolfson.oxford.ac.uk Sat Jan 18 21:31:50 2003 From: christopher.butler at wolfson.oxford.ac.uk (Christopher Butler) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Saturday's Birds Message-ID: We then decided to head over towards Eugene. Perhaps 6 miles from Florence on 126, Kristie surprised me by pointing out an OSPREY eating a fish on a telephone pole. It took a couple minutes for us to find a place to turn around and return and when we did, the OSPREY and his lunch had moved on... We took a drive down Cantrell Rd. by Fern Ridge Reservoir and were delighted to see an adult RED-SHOULDERED HAWK perched on a telephone pole. We followed Cantrell until it turned to gravel and then turned left on Niemi where we saw a second RED-SHOULDERED HAWK flying away. This was the same area where Alan Contreras et al. had reported a Ross' Goose a couple weeks earlier so Kristie and I kept our eyes peeled. There were numerous hunters along this road but we found only a single flock of Canada Geese... all of which turned out to be decoys! So, I suppose I should ask: did you actually see that Ross' Goose move, Alan? ;-) Next we stopped at Stewart Park to look for the Ruff and the Palm Warbler. No luck with the Ruff, although there were numerous DOWITCHERS, as well as a single GREATER YELLOWLEGS, and a couple WILSON'S SNIPE. I started walking around the westernmost pond where the Palm Warbler had been reported and at around 2:30ish I heard a shout "It's over here!" Don DeWitt and Bob Sites had found the PALM WARBLER at the SW corner of the pond - thanks for calling my attention to it! Finally, on our way back to Hillsboro, Kristie and I decided to stop at Woodburn to take another look at the VERMILLION FLYCATCHER. We stopped by the golf course around 4:00 PM and it only took about ten minutes of searching before another group of birders discovered the bird. It perched in a pine for a minute or two, before flying over to one of the reddish poles. It was only about 50 feet away, and the view through the scope at 20x was fantastic. What a gorgeous bird! Finally, as I'm typing this up tonight (9:30 PM) there is a GREAT HORNED OWL calling from the back yard, and a WESTERN SCREECH-OWL calling from the front yard of my parent's house in Hillsboro. A nice finish to the day! Cheers, Chris Butler Chris Butler EGI Department of Zoology University of Oxford South Parks Road Oxford, OX1 3PS UK From cgates at empnet.com Sat Jan 18 21:39:18 2003 From: cgates at empnet.com (Charles Gates) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Crook SE Owl and strange sapsucker Message-ID: <3E2A3A06.C8570B7A@empnet.com> I was going to take the day off from birding but on the way to the store to buy the dogs their Saturday hotdog treat, I ran into Diane and Peter Low and Judy Meredith. At the same location, I found the long lost MIA Lauren Sobkoviac. These guys forced me to go along with them (ok, it didn't take much force). We checked for Barn Owls in Powell Butte and later for the Powell Butte Red-breasted Sapsucker but found neither. Later, we bade Lauren goodbye and set out to look for rosy finches on Grizzley Butte. We didn't find any but if you get a chance to drive up there, the view is pretty wild. We stopped and saw the BARN OWL at Judy Kennedy's place and Peter spotted a sapsucker. This bird was redder than any red-naped I've seen with extensive red on the head (including almost all of the back of the head). However, the red did not extend onto the breast and there was a facial pattern that looked out of place. This bird may be a RED-BREASTED SAPSUCKER or a RED-BREASTED-RED-NAPED HYBRID. I'm going back for other looks tomorrow. The find of the day were 5 SHORT-EARED OWLS at the corner of Weigand and Reif roads in Powell Butte at around 5:15. Chuck Gates Powell Butte From loricain at charter.net Sun Jan 19 01:05:41 2003 From: loricain at charter.net (Lee & Lori Cain) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: JBH Black Phoebe, White-tailed Kite Message-ID: <000601c2bf99$f20af0e0$d8f9be42@hbhsb01> Finally got to see the BLACK PHOEBE at Julia Butler Hansen Refuge HQ today at about 1030 hrs. It was perched on the electric meter of the east outbuilding briefly but gave us a good look before flying off to the east alders/crabapples. And one WHITE-TAILED KITE was hovering in the back of the nearby field. Lee Cain Aquatic Biology/Integrated Science Astoria High School >//////> >//////> >//////> Home loricain@charter.net From calliope at theriver.com Sun Jan 19 06:13:03 2003 From: calliope at theriver.com (Rich Hoyer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Thought problem: reporting Scaup Message-ID: Hi Birders, One choice that Paul didn't list was: e: 1 Greater Scaup, 118 Lesser Scaup, and 1 scaup sp. Also having bearing on the best answer would be previous experience and knowledge of the status of each species in the location. If you have birded this lake over 20 years, and careful scrutiny over the years has yielded only this one Greater Scaup, it would be safe to call all 119 others Lesser. But if you know that Greater Scaup occurs with certain regularity but remains rare, I would choose e. Good Birding, Rich P.S. Kindly send the Vermilion Flycatcher and McCown's Longspur back. They're going to get a mildew infection up there. --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Field Leader for WINGS, Inc. http://www.wingsbirds.com --- From jmh at proaxis.com Sun Jan 19 07:45:20 2003 From: jmh at proaxis.com (Jeff and Patricia Harding) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Linn County Ross' Goose Message-ID: <000101c2bfd1$c7981c60$d50a91c6@jeffcb0fcpbmk8> The Ross' Goose that Jeff Fleisher and Paul Sullivan found on New Years Day is still hanging out with the Tundra Swans South of Brownsville, Linn County. I found the little white goose as well as a Greater White-Fronted Goose in a flock of 500 broad-minded swans at the corner of Ranch and Center School Road yesterday afternoon. Since there was a pair of Snow Geese at the gravel pond on Highway 20 and Scravell Hill Road, that made four goose species for the day! There was a Western Gull at Grand Prairie Park in Albany, and at least three nice drake Eurasian Widgeons, too. Good Birding, Jeff Patricia and Jeff Harding "The seasons they are turning and my sad heart is yearning to hear again the songbird's sweet melodious tone." Bob Dylan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ruth Sullivan, Tacoma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Gilligan" To: "Obol" Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 7:32 PM Subject: [obol] goose chase 3 (negative) > Owen Schmidt and I tried Columbia County and the Brownsmead area in Clatsop > County on Saturday in search of the missing Washington Bean Goose. Folks - > there are a lot of geese in western Oregon. We have not yet found the Bean > Goose, and plan to take a weekend off before the next attempt. > > Birds of interest: > > Individual WHITE-TAILED KITES at Deer Island and near Clatskanie, both in > Columbia County. > > 1 dark-phase ROUGH-LEGGED HAWK in the Scapoose Bottoms. > > 3 GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE in the Scappoose Bottoms, and one at the > Trojan Nuclear Plant. > > There seem to be few swans around this winter. > > From quack at teleport.com Sun Jan 19 09:54:10 2003 From: quack at teleport.com (Roy W. Lowe) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Thought problem: Identifying Scaup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This discussion of the problem of reporting scaup reminded me of the problems in identifying scaup. In 1984, I was running a duck banding operation in the Richardson's Bay Audubon Sanctuary in San Francisco Bay. The target duck was canvasback, but pesky scaup filled our traps daily, gorging on the corn we used for bait. On the first day of the operation we were watching our traps fill with scaup from shore when a young, but prominent bay area birder arrived and scoped the flock of scaup working our traps. The birder pronounced that the flock was comprised of approximately 60% lesser and 40% greater scaup. I had severe doubts about the composition so I invited the birder to stay and run the traps with us. We followed the banding manual guidelines for identifying scaup species which is to measure the width of the nail of the bill (there's no overlap). After measuring and banding 44 ducks the score was lesser 44, greater 0. When the 45th duck was handed to me it was significantly larger in the hand and sure enough it was a greater. The final score that day was 180 lesser and 8 greater. It was a great learning experience for all of us. Roy From birdsong at harborside.com Sun Jan 19 10:44:17 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Short-eared owl References: Message-ID: <3E2AF201.2000206@harborside.com> Folks, This is just the type of message that I was speaking about a day ago. Sorry Paul, I don't mean to pick on you, but this message contains NO information as to where you saw this bird - what town, county, etc etc - I haven't a clue where you are or where the bird is. I need this species for my county list (Coos), so I'd be real interested in knowing where this bird was (I suspect it wasn't in Coos Cty though!). Again, sorry to be making this message an example, I am not trying to be mean, I am trying to make this OBOL process work as easy as possible! Thanks Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com Jacobsen, Paul wrote: > This evening, Jan 18, we saw a short-eared owl in the meadow on top of the hill, near the overlook. It circled the meadow area for about five minutes and provided quite a show. We were there just after the sun dropped below the horizon, but while there was still plenty of light for viewing. > From woodpecker97330 at YAHOO.COM Sun Jan 19 10:45:19 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at YAHOO.COM (Jamie Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: RFI: Directions to Stewart Pond/Rd., Lane Message-ID: Would someone please post detailed directions to Stewart Pond/Rd. in Eugene where the Ruff and Palm Warbler have been seen. I've searched the obol archives and have found no mention of how to get there. Jamie Corvallis woodpecker97330@yahoo.com From Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us Sun Jan 19 10:51:21 2003 From: Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Directions to Stewart Pond/Rd., Lane Message-ID: <3514F6D1DB66D311809D009027856D080108648D@mercury.osac.state.or.us> Stewart Pond is located about 2 blocks north of Hwy 126 (W. 11th St.) in west Eugene. Directions: From hnehls at teleport.com Sun Jan 19 12:43:04 2003 From: hnehls at teleport.com (Harry Nehls) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Snowy Owl Message-ID: Obolers, Just received a call reporting that a Snowy Owl was seen about noon today (Jan 19) at the intersection of NE 24th. and Going Streets in Portland. It flushed north. Harry Nehls Portland, OR 503-233-3976 From loricain at charter.net Sun Jan 19 13:31:18 2003 From: loricain at charter.net (Lee & Lori Cain) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Clatsop Birds Message-ID: <001601c2c002$1ae6dc00$d8f9be42@hbhsb01> Notes: 0730-1000 hrs, along Wireless Rd, Clover Lane, Airport Road, Hwy 101 Smith-Sunset Lake area. A "?" indicates the species was seen, but not counted 8 Pied-billed Grebe (one observed in Cook Slough with captured cottid, [probable Coast Range Sculpin]) 1 Western Grebe ? Double-crested Cormorant 6 Great Blue Heron 760 Canada Goose (mostly fly overs - only one obvious Dusky seen) 12 Gadwall 15 American Wigeon 27 Mallard 7 CINNAMON TEAL (Smith-Sunset Lake area) 3 Northern Shoveler 17 Northern Pintail 25 Green-Winged Teal (males doing "pop-a-wheelie" courtship display accompanied by whistles) 9 Ring-necked Duck ? Greater Scaup ? Lesser Scaup ? Bufflehead 11 Hooded Merganser 1 NORTHERN HARRIER 1 SHARP-SHINNED 1 COOPER'S HAWK 4 RED-TAILED HAWK 1 AMERICAN KESTREL 1 PEREGRINE FALCON (Clover Lane) 15 American Coot 2 Killdeer ? Mew Gull ? Western Gull ? Glaucous-winged x Western Gull 11 Rock Dove 3 Belted Kingfisher 2 Northern Flicker 4 Steller's Jay 1 Western Scrub-Jay ? American Crow 9 Common Raven 7 Black-capped Chickadee 1 Winter Wren 1 Marsh Wren 41 American Robin 2 Varied Thrush 560 European Starling 13 Fox Sparrow 23 Song Sparrow 1 LINCOLN"S SPARROW (Clover Lane) 4 Golden-crowned Sparrow 5 Dark-eyed Junco 75 Red-winged Blackbird 5 WESTERN MEADOWLARK (Airport Road) 10 Brewer's Blackbird Total number of species: 49 Lee Cain Aquatic Biology/Integrated Science Astoria High School >//////> >//////> >//////> home: loricain@charter.net From larmcqueen at msn.com Sun Jan 19 13:43:10 2003 From: larmcqueen at msn.com (Larry McQueen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Thought problem: Identifying Scaup References: Message-ID: <003701c2c003$c2cced00$0200000a@newcomputer> AND, speaking of scaup, how often do we identify the females carefully? We generally have to assume that when all the males are of one species, all the females are of the same, and the single male Greater gets counted, but not the single female. We do the best we can. Larry McQueen > This discussion of the problem of reporting scaup reminded me of the > problems in identifying scaup. > > In 1984, I was running a duck banding operation in the Richardson's Bay > Audubon Sanctuary in San Francisco Bay. The target duck was canvasback, but > pesky scaup filled our traps daily, gorging on the corn we used for bait. > On the first day of the operation we were watching our traps fill with scaup > from shore when a young, but prominent bay area birder arrived and scoped > the flock of scaup working our traps. The birder pronounced that the flock > was comprised of approximately 60% lesser and 40% greater scaup. I had > severe doubts about the composition so I invited the birder to stay and run > the traps with us. > > We followed the banding manual guidelines for identifying scaup species > which is to measure the width of the nail of the bill (there's no overlap). > After measuring and banding 44 ducks the score was lesser 44, greater 0. > When the 45th duck was handed to me it was significantly larger in the hand > and sure enough it was a greater. The final score that day was 180 lesser > and 8 greater. It was a great learning experience for all of us. > > Roy > > > > From oschmidt at att.net Sun Jan 19 14:14:25 2003 From: oschmidt at att.net (Owen Schmidt) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: OBOL McCown's Longspur YES Message-ID: OBOL -- I saw the McCown's Longspur at its previously-described location in NE Portland at about 11:00 am today, and again at about Noon with several other birders including Donna Lusthoff, Paul Sullivan, and Bob Lockett. The bird vocalized only once as far as I could tell, remains with the Horned Larks, and is usually difficult to pick out. Video of this bird at next Birders Night in Portland, 7:30 pm the first Tuesday of February. oschmidt@att.net Sunday, January 19, 2003 From m.denny at charter.net Sun Jan 19 14:46:56 2003 From: m.denny at charter.net (Mike Denny) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:41 2004 Subject: Birding Baskett Slough NWR Message-ID: <001901c2c00c$abddde20$ea0b7144@BLACKBIRD> Hello OBOLERs , While birding Baskett Slough on the 18th we observed red collared Canada Geese in a flock of 10-12K birds. The last time we saw red collared geese was while searching for the Bean Goose on the Washington coast in December. We also found the McCowns Longspur, but missed the Vermillion after 4.5 hours of looking the Ironwood Golf kingdom over.It was nice to see the two pair of Cinnamon Teal IN FULL BREEDING PLUMAGE on the one pond. We birded into Polk Co. to add to the six species we already had for that area.The following is a list of highlights from Baskett Slough. Am. Pipit---23 Peregrine Falcon---1 ad. N. rough-legged Hawk---2 Am. Green-winged Teal---630 Dunlin---18 Northern Shrike---1 ad. Wilsons Snipe---1 Tundra Swan---42 Along Farmer Rd. Short-eared Owl---1 Am.Pipit---16 Long-billed Dowithcher---5 Bill Tice---1 Rosy Tice---1 N.Harrier---7 Note: We also saw an adult male Cinnamon Teal just outside of Amity along 99W. That is it for now. Good Birding M&ML DENNY ********************************************************** Mike & MerryLynn Denny 323 Scenic View Drive College Place, WA 99324 509.529.0080 (h) IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BIRDING, YOU HAVEN'T LIVED! ******************************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <000501c2c012$40205400$d8f9be42@hbhsb01> At 1515 hrs, about 5-600 CANADA GEESE, mostly smaller forms, were staging in the (Hess') field between Wireless Rd and Miles Crossing, just south of Astoria. One of the smaller birds was like a CAGE in every way, except that all of the body feathers are and extremely pale grey, as if lacking pigment. Bill, chin strap, neck feet and primaries were as they should be. Am I seeing a leucistic Canada Goose, or a hybrid? Lee Cain Aquatic Biology/Integrated Science Astoria High School >//////> >//////> >//////> Home: loricain@charter.net From snowyowl98683 at msn.com Sun Jan 19 16:54:18 2003 From: snowyowl98683 at msn.com (Mark Miller) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: NE Portland Snowy Owl: No Message-ID: Hi Everyone-- Marcia Marvin and I did a cruise around NE Portland on Sunday 1/19 between 2:30 and 4:30pm in hopes of seeing a Snowy Owl. From the car, we searched in a rectangle bordered by Mason on the south, Columbia Blvd. on the north, 21st on the west, and 33rd on the east. We saw an adult Merlin and an adult Cooper's Hawk, but no owl. We also stopped by the airport maintenance building at 7111 NE Alderwood, and watched 8 MONK PARAKEETS working on nests. In the tree with the really big nest, a White-breasted Nuthatch was also present. Mark Miller Vancouver, WA snowyowl98683@comcast.net From jgeier at attglobal.net Sun Jan 19 17:09:52 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: TVs and =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6dinger=27s?= Sparrows Message-ID: <3E2B4C60.95A60949@attglobal.net> Hello birders, First the easy one: Becky Geier mentioned on Friday (17 Jan) that she saw two TURKEY VULTURES soaring alongside Hwy 99W near Peavy Arboretum (n. of Corvallis). That would be Benton County, Oregon. Second, the tough one: Yesterday (18 Jan) I heard some "spink" sounds at the edge of our dooryard. That is, in Polk Co. I approached a flock of about 40 OREGON JUNCOS to check more closely. The flock moved WSW along a line of trees and into Benton Co. Walking parallel to that line of trees for a closer look, I spied two WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS, but wondered if there might be another. So I observed more intently, and as I did so, the whole flock moved back toward ENE, back into Polk County. Supposing there are just two White-throated Sparrows, which county should Dave Irons score these for? I think he'll need to refer to Schr?dinger for an appropriate wave function. The sparrows switch back and forth as a function of quantifying events, and must be regarded as present in both counties simultaneously, in some statistical sense. Or is Heisenberg the appropriate reference? Any attempt to measure the number of sparrows results in a change in their position and/or level of energy. Oh well. There are two more White-throated Sparrows here anyway. In the historic Wells district, near Suver and Camp Adair, south of Independence, some county, or another, or both. This strange and apparently undescribable phenomenon may or may not be linked to the malfunctioning VBE near Coos Bay -- so far as I understand how quantum events affect the universe (which is to say, not at all). When you all have the scaup question sorted out, perhaps you can help with this one. Good birding! Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From celata at pacifier.com Sun Jan 19 17:15:16 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6dinger=27s?= Sparrows References: Message-ID: <3E2B4DA3.1ECAED70@pacifier.com> I suspect the more appropriate analogy for the conundrum is the phenomenon of resonance. If one looks at electron pairs forming bonds in, say, graphite. Electrons shift back and forth between adjoining covalent bonds. The result is a bond with properties halfway between a double bond and a single bond in length. So, even though it occupies both spaces and neither space simultaneously, one can treat it mathematically as 50-50 avoiding the need to solve the wave function. Sort of a classical boot strap around the whole quantum thing. I hope Dave finds this useful. Joel Geier wrote: > > Oh well. There are two more White-throated Sparrows here > anyway. In the historic Wells district, near Suver and Camp > Adair, south of Independence, some county, or another, or > both. This strange and apparently undescribable phenomenon > may or may not be linked to the malfunctioning VBE near Coos > Bay -- so far as I understand how quantum events affect the > universe (which is to say, not at all). > -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From m.denny at charter.net Sun Jan 19 17:38:58 2003 From: m.denny at charter.net (Mike Denny) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: White-tailed Kites Message-ID: <003501c2c024$b408dab0$ea0b7144@BLACKBIRD> Hello All, I failed to add on our Baskett Slough list the 2 White tailed Kites spotted by MerryLynn on the 18th. Later Mike ******************************************************************** Mike & MerryLynn Denny 323 Scenic View Drive College Place, WA 99324 509.529.0080 (h) IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BIRDING, YOU HAVEN'T LIVED! ******************************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030119/bf0ba879/attachment.htm From Irons5 at aol.com Sun Jan 19 18:07:42 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[obol]=20Re:=20Schr=F6dinger's=20Sparrows?= Message-ID: <1d4.471e27.2b5cb3ee@aol.com> pocket protectors propellers for their beanies slide rules old text books for any of the following classes; quantum physics, advanced calculus, molecular biology, organic chemistry and statistics. I think I'll stay in the shallow end of the pool and stick to simple counting of White-throated Sparrows. It is all I can do to figure out Excel to make a spreadsheet of where they are found. Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From schauer at coho.net Sun Jan 19 18:19:02 2003 From: schauer at coho.net (Amy and Jay Schauer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Blue Jay Locations? Message-ID: Is anyone still seeing the Blue Jays either in Portland or Corvallis. We haven't seen any recent posts, but were going to be out and about tomorrow and thought we would take a look. Directions to either location if they are still around would be appreciated. Thank you. From schauer at coho.net Sun Jan 19 18:27:15 2003 From: schauer at coho.net (Amy and Jay Schauer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Springfield not Corvallis Message-ID: In the previous request about Blue Jay locations, I meant Portland or Springfield, not Portland or Corvallis. Sorry for any confusion. Jay From celata at pacifier.com Sun Jan 19 18:35:09 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: A wierd finch Message-ID: <3E2B6056.B7668070@pacifier.com> Ron Maertz sent me some interesting pictures of a leucistic bird coming to his feeder. He figures its a mutant PURPLE FINCH and I'm inclined to agree with him, though the apparent blackness of the primaries and tail along with the tail length make me wonder... http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/temp/weird_finch006.jpg http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/temp/weird_finch010.jpg -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From ilenesamowitz at attbi.com Sun Jan 19 20:33:59 2003 From: ilenesamowitz at attbi.com (ilenesamowitz@attbi.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: 23 Great Egrets plus Two in Tillamook County Plus Several Highlights Message-ID: <20030120043400.98559359F@astro.nws.orst.edu> Today, in a field heading west from Tillamook just east of Fenk Road there were 23 great egrets. They were present at around 1:30 and again around 3pm. We saw a lone egret at Bay Ocean Spit and an additional one in its usual location on the east side of 101 South of Garibaldi. Additionally we had two Townsend Warblers in our backyard in Rockaway and saw two WRENTITS both yesterday and today on the path to the beach along Washington Street. An additional highlight yesterday was a great blue heron flushing an AMERICAN BITTERN at Lake Lytle in Rockaway Beach allowing good views. Today along Goodspeed Road in Tillamook we saw two White-shouldered Kites. We saw another Kite yesterday new the sewer ponds in Nehalem. Ilene Samowitz Seattle, WA Rockaway Beach, OR From pamelaj at spiritone.com Sun Jan 19 21:00:17 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Heisenberg's Sparrows Message-ID: <000f01c2c040$d6a25d00$cac063d8@sburock> In the interest of the reduction of uncertainty, let me advise Dave that I saw a (one) WTSP yesterday in Multnomah Co., near the gate to Oak Island Refuge. It studiously avoided flying into any neighboring counties. Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From 5hats at peak.org Sun Jan 19 20:51:05 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: scaup question Message-ID: <002d01c2c040$46de9f30$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> OBOL, I vote 1 Greater Scaup, 116 Lesser Scaup, 1 Scaup sp, and 2 dowitcher sp. Seriously, I would go with 19 Lesser Scaup, 1 Greater Scaup, and 100 Scaup sp, for the following reasons (1) Only the birds in the front flock were identifed. The rest were speculated scaup. (2) white sides do not a Greater make. I used to consider that to be a more reliable field mark for the species than I now believe it to be. Certainly Greaters have a tendency to whiter sides, but that mark, in and of itself, is not diagnostic. (3) Location, while sometimes being a helpful clue towards identification, can be less reliable than supposed. For example, it is widely supposed that the swan flocks wintering in the Willamette Valley are mostly Tundra Swans, with the occasional Trumpeter for flavor. But on the recent Dallas CBC Pat Gallagher and I had very close and definitive looks ( and hearings) of a flock of twenty one swans that was in fact composed of ten Tundras and eleven Trumpeters. So much for supposition according to location. Some years back a group of birders at Bayocean Spit saw a flock of sixteen ( If I remember correctly) godwits fly in off the ocean. Marbled, of course. Except for the fact they turned out to be Hudsonian. The sighing was unprecedented, and so far, unrepeated. If there is anything we should know about birding by now it is that odd birds frequently show up in the most unexpected of places, and as for Greater Scaup wintering along the mid-Columbia, don't forget that two of those scaup sp. which wintered at Arlington a few years back were in fact Tufted Ducks. Darrel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030119/37e22479/attachment.htm From acontrer at mindspring.com Sun Jan 19 20:56:17 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: gifts for birders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Someone send Dave Irons an abacus. And Tim Rodentwork a picture of a REAL white-throated sparrow. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From 5hats at peak.org Sun Jan 19 20:54:30 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Snowy Owl Message-ID: <002f01c2c040$4c183510$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> obol, I should have posted this sooner, but on the 9th, while heading up the Columbia Gorge, I saw a Snowy Owl about seven miles west of Hood River. Perhaps the same bird moved downriver to Portland. Darrel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All the birds were east of the Sea Scout Base and west of the gates in the PDX fence where people park to watch the planes. Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From MMcabema2 at aol.com Sun Jan 19 23:05:10 2003 From: MMcabema2 at aol.com (MMcabema2@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Gyrfalcon near Beaverton Message-ID: <1d5.4a288d.2b5cf9a6@aol.com> On the way home from church this morning I persuaded my husband to drive down Pleasant Valley Road to check out a little pond and marsh near the end of this dead end road. It is off Scholls Ferry Road (210) west of Beaverton. Take the first left about l/4 mile west of the Kinton Grange. About half way down the road we saw a Gyrfalcon. It was coming from the area of the marsh. It was quite white and looked very much like the one pictured on page 227 of The Sibley Guide to Bird Life and Behavior. We got an excellent look at it as it flew about 10 feet high over the road in front of our car. This has been a good week for birds at our home in the Scholls area of Sherwood. On Friday we briefly had a Red-Shouldered Hawk perched in a tree within viewing distance of the kitchen window. We see Sharp-shinned a lot but this is the first Red we have seen on our property. On Thursday evening just before the sun went down we had a cherry tree full of Lesser Goldfinches. ( Did manage to video the little yellow jewels.) The same evening our large fir tree had several Townsend's Warblers and the brush just below was filled with Bushtits. Now that I'm carring on I wish to comment on the lack of Siskins and Nuthatches at the feeders. This is just an old farm gals theory but thought I would pass it on anyway. I am certainly an amateur birder and would not be offended if those more experienced think I'm "all wet". Before a lot of the leaves turned and were ready to fall we had a pretty stiff freeze. The green leaves couldn't fall as they were mummified and hung on for a long time. I believe the same thing happened to the Alder ,Pine and Fir cones. I believe they were not able to release their seeds and nuts to the forest floor and were stuck shut. The Pine Siskins however were able to pry into the cones and get all the food they needed. The Siskins usually eat me out of house and home, but this year as a group of 40 or more foraged in the top of my Alder trees only a couple would drop down to our feeders. I also believe since the usual forage wasn't available for the sparrows under these trees, they showed up in larger numbers than usual at the feeders. Our deck floor is about 10-12 feet off the ground . We have lived here 22 years and have never had Fox Sparrows actually come up on the deck to feed before this year. Our Golden-Crowns are not only coming more frequently during the day but a lot more of them this year. I can tell its the same flock because one of the little guys is a little "pinto" fellow with lots of white on it. Well enough of that. Hope everyone had a profitable weekend. ( I still haven't seen the McCown's after 2 tries) Marie McCabe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030120/7f6d2216/attachment.htm From larmcqueen at msn.com Sun Jan 19 23:35:00 2003 From: larmcqueen at msn.com (Larry McQueen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: A wierd finch References: Message-ID: <000a01c2c056$70584a30$0200000a@newcomputer> Agreed that it is a Purple Finch. Wings and tail are dark on a normal bird. These are more noticeable because of the contrast with the pale plumage. Larry McQueen ----- Original Message ----- > Ron Maertz sent me some interesting pictures of a leucistic > bird coming to his feeder. He figures its a mutant PURPLE > FINCH and I'm inclined to agree with him, though the apparent > blackness of the primaries and tail along with the tail length > make me wonder... > > http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/temp/weird_finch006.jpg > http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/temp/weird_finch010.jpg > > -- > Mike Patterson > Astoria, OR > celata@pacifier.com > > A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him > hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness > that amazes those with ears who hear not. > > -Neltje Blanchan > > http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html > > > From bigrocketman3 at webtv.net Mon Jan 20 03:10:53 2003 From: bigrocketman3 at webtv.net (Steve McDonald) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Fog-bound Geese, Vultures, Cats Message-ID: <29995-3E2BD93D-59@storefull-2118.public.lawson.webtv.net> At 5:30 pm Sunday, several waves of small Canada Geese lifted off the Willamette River, five miles upstream from Eugene, where they'd been getting their daily gizzard grit. There were about 2,000 Lessers and 500 Cacklers. They usually leave the river at about 3:30 pm, but I speculate that they were socked in by the heavy fog and later finally realized that it wasn't going to lift. They milled around for some time to get their bearings and eventually headed towards Fern Ridge Reservoir, where they roost. I base my I.D. on having seen this same bunch daily in daylight for several weeks and what I could hear tonight. My guess is that geese and other local birds use the sound of traffic on I-5 and other freeways as navigation locaters in white-out conditions like this. I believe the fog was so thick and high that even the transmitting tower lights on the hills may not have been visible. Migrating birds wouldn't have the advantage of being familiar with these human-made markers, unless they were veterans or were being led by some. Perhaps, experienced migrators have complete roadmaps etched in their memories as both sight and sound and tend to follow them as airplane pilots do. Would a tourist goose be smart enough to figure that a busy north/south freeway would eventually lead it to California for a warm Winter? I know there's a number of people who couldn't deduce this. There have been a lot more Turkey Vultures wintering in Oregon each year. Near Eugene, 12 of them were seen recently in one group. Have the CBCs provided a means to estimate the total numbers of them for this and other recent Winters in the state? Has anyone ever worked out a formula for using CBC counts of all birds to estimate the larger number of each species that would likely have been present? In the real world, Schr?dinger's Cat would have died of suffocation in a few minutes. Steve McDonald From WeberHome at att.net Mon Jan 20 06:38:50 2003 From: WeberHome at att.net (Cliff & Joanne) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Learning Palace Message-ID: OBOL; Hello! This dinky little mini-wetland squeezed into city confines continues to amaze us with really cool waterfowl. Trophies so far have been some Snipe-looking birds (who flushed and stormed off so suddenly and completely by surprise that the only thing we can say about them is their bills and body sizes were much too big to be pipers), and two pairs of Hooded Mergansers. Sunday, around noon time, we found (I should say Joanne found, because Mr. Super Birder here was looking right at it and didn't even notice its white collar.) an Aleutian style Canada goose. (I protested it could just as easily have been a Richardson's but was out-voted by you know who. *chuckle* Joanne is getting pretty good with her field guides— she actually reads them; whereas Mr. Super Birder is the typical male who won't look at a road map.) Since there were only two Canadas to begin with, wouldn't that mean 50% of the geese we (Joanne) saw Sunday at Learning Palace were Aleutians? :-) Where: —City of Beaverton, Canyon Place shopping center, located between Lombard and 117th just off Canyon Rd., 2003 Portland Thomas Guide page 625, square C2 Wheelchair Friendly? —Yes. Parking lots, good sidewalks, and boardwalks. Restrooms? —Not on site; but many merchants and restaurants nearby. Cliff & Joanne Beaverton From sharonh at seasurf.net Mon Jan 20 07:29:41 2003 From: sharonh at seasurf.net (Sharon and Don) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Sunday afternoon swans , Clatsop County Message-ID: <3E2C15E5.1060900@seasurf.net> Walked from Bug Hole to Aldrich Point and back along the dike late yesterday. High points were the 15 swans in the shallow bay inside Devils Elbow. (Too far away to visually collapse the events into either Trumpeter or Tundra states). The occasional calls sounded like Tundra. On the return trip there were two groups of swans, one of five birds and a second that seemed to have about twenty birds. This last sighting was beautiful, looking through the binos straight into the brilliant orange post sunset colors, bands of dead black alternating with flame colored reflections from the water, swans and other silhouettes drifting in and out of vegetation, mud bars and debris. The same conditions coupled with the distance however made counting very difficult. Also saw a flock of about twenty snow geese flying north to south as I was driving between Brownsmead and Bug Hole on the way in. A couple of times I thought I could could hear a lot of snow goose noise to the distant southwest as I was walking . Don Haller From birdsong at harborside.com Mon Jan 20 09:26:44 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Thought problem: reporting Scaup] Message-ID: <3E2C3154.7070607@harborside.com> Mark, others, When I said "There is one question one should consider in these situations: What birds did you ID? Count them." I didn't say how you IDed them. Rich Hoyer said: "Also having bearing on the best answer would be previous experience and knowledge of the status of each species in the location." Taking one's experience level with the ID, one's knowledge of the local distribution of species, and the particular species involved, one can make an informed decision on the ID. But if you can't answer these questions confidently, then the birds are sp. I personally would rather be conservative on the ID and have some sp. than be wrong. With that said, Mark is right that when one looks at the bigger picture, statistically whether you count one or two Greaters will not change the outcome of the results. Cheers Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From johnp at mdcresearch.com Mon Jan 20 09:39:00 2003 From: johnp at mdcresearch.com (John Pendleton) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Peregrine near Ranier Message-ID: There was a PEREGRINE FALCON north of Ranier on Saturday, January 18, 2003. The bird was in between Route 30 and the Columbia River. I have the exact coordinates and so-so but very recognizable photos if anyone is interested. Sorry for not providing more info now, severe computer problems... John Pendleton Portland OR From mlafaive at teleport.com Mon Jan 20 09:56:48 2003 From: mlafaive at teleport.com (Margaret Lafaive) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Tillamook County - 01/19/02 Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20030120095648.009b47f0@mail.teleport.com> Eric Henze and I enjoyed beautiful weather birding in Tillamook County on Sunday (01/19/02). We saw 70 species with the following highlights: RED-NECKED GREBE - 1 on the ocean off the community of Cape Meares. GREAT EGRET - We saw 39 all totaled in the County today. There were 37 in two pastures along Bay Ocean Road just west of Fenk Road, with one at Bay Ocean and another at Sand Lake. TUNDRA SWAN - 5 at Bay Ocean. BARROW'S GOLDENEYE - 1 female in Miami Cove near Hobsonville Point. PEREGRINE FALCON - 1 adult at Cape Meares State Park. WHITE-TAILED KITE - 1 behind the Fred Meyer store in Tillamook and 1 at Whalen Island County Park (south end of Sand Lake). SHARP-SHINNED HAWK - 1 imm. at Barview Jetty County Park. Intergrade NORTHERN FLICKERS - We saw two flickers which showed at least some "Yellow-shafted" characteristics. Along Goodspeed Road we saw one with black malar stripes--everything else about it was "Red-shafted". At Sand Lake we saw one individual flying away from us with yellow wing linings, but we couldn't see any other salient field marks. TOWNSEND'S WARBLER - 1 female at Barview Jetty County Park. LINCOLN SPARROW - 2 along Goodspeed Road. WHITE-THROATED SPARROW - 1 near the intersection of Bay Ocean Road and Netarts Highway and 1 in the community of Cape Meares. Good Birding, Margaret LaFaive mlafaive@teleport.com From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Mon Jan 20 10:12:23 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: A wierd finch References: Message-ID: <005001c2c0af$7c0976c0$7caaa43f@hppav> In my humble opinion...think it's a Purple Finch. Have handled a few (in the range of 1000+) and it looks like an off-colored one to me. Think the wing and tail feathers are about the normal color for them. Dennis > Agreed that it is a Purple Finch. Wings and tail are dark on a normal bird. > These are more noticeable because of the contrast with the pale plumage. > > Larry McQueen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Ron Maertz sent me some interesting pictures of a leucistic > > bird coming to his feeder. He figures its a mutant PURPLE > > FINCH and I'm inclined to agree with him, though the apparent > > blackness of the primaries and tail along with the tail length > > make me wonder... > > > > http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/temp/weird_finch006.jpg > > http://home.pacifier.com/~neawanna/temp/weird_finch010.jpg > > > > -- > > Mike Patterson > > Astoria, OR > > celata@pacifier.com > > > > A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him > > hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness > > that amazes those with ears who hear not. > > > > -Neltje Blanchan > > > > http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html > > > > > > > > > > From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Mon Jan 20 10:28:34 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Reported possible Trumpeter Swans Message-ID: <007a01c2c0b1$bec01940$7caaa43f@hppav> Reported from Table Rock Road (01-19-03) in Jackson Co. "About halfway between the two 15 mph corners [on Table Rock Road], there were 15 Swans in a field on the right side of the road. Even though it was foggy, I got pretty good looks, and I'm reasonably certain (say 95%) that they were Trumpeters. Bills all black, lores looked wider than a Tundra Swan, no yellow basal spots that I could see on any of the birds." For anyone interested to take a look at. Dennis (north of Grants Pass) From dan at heyerly.com Mon Jan 20 12:20:18 2003 From: dan at heyerly.com (Dan Heyerly) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <000d01c2c0c1$5a4e57a0$06fea8c0@knowledge1> get obol 66967 66969 67040 67074 67076 From dan at heyerly.com Mon Jan 20 12:24:04 2003 From: dan at heyerly.com (Dan Heyerly) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: mistake Message-ID: <001b01c2c0c1$e0bb7d40$06fea8c0@knowledge1> obolinks, Sorry about the cryptic message I sent earlier. It was a feeble attempt to remotely jump start a group of battery packs attached to an outdated VBE unit high on a mountain in Coos county. I'll re-send it via the proper and authorized pathway. Dan dan@heyerly.com From dhelzer at teleport.com Mon Jan 20 13:34:41 2003 From: dhelzer at teleport.com (Dave Helzer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Gull ID talk Tuesday at Audubon Society of Portland Message-ID: Portland Area Obolers, Learn the basics of gull ID and distribution with Oregon expert Harry Nehls Tuesday Evening at Audubon Society of Portland in NW Portland. All are welcome. FREE for Audubon volunteers. Gulls Tuesday January 21, 7-9 PM Join in on one of our most popular programs! From the dainty Bonaparte?s to the burly Western Gull, northwest gulls are entertaining to watch and notoriously confusing to identify. Tonight local expert and author Harry Nehls will provide insight on the identification, behavior and distribution of our local gulls. Fee: $10 members / $15 non-members Pre-registration is not required. Dave Helzer, Adult Programs Coordinator Audubon Society of Portland 5151 NW Cornell Rd, Portland, OR 97210
503.292.6855 ext 119 971.222.6119 503.292.1021 www.audubonportland.org dhelzer@audubonportland.org From Irons5 at aol.com Mon Jan 20 14:06:45 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: OBOL: White-throated Sparrow update Message-ID: <123.1d02744a.2b5dccf5@aol.com> The total tally of White-throated Sparrows has risen to 243. In a private email, David Fix posed the question, what percentage of the White-throated Sparrows in Oregon are actually observed and reported by birders in a given winter. From Irons5 at aol.com Mon Jan 20 14:14:27 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: OBOL: fat fingered White-throated Sparrow update Message-ID: <144.83df574.2b5dcec3@aol.com> Oops, The total White-throated Sparrow count is now up to 243. David Fix posed the following question. What percentage of all the White-throated Sparrows wintering in Oregon actually are observed and reported by birders. Given the amount of both urban and rural habitat suitable for wintering sparrow flocks I would guess that it is at best about 10%. Of course this is total speculation. Just for fun I would like to poll the opinions of other OBOL subscribers, particularly those of you who have found and reported birds to me this winter. Send me a PRIVATE note with you guestimation in a percentage. Please do not respond directly to the list and flood it with a bunch of short notes. I will compile the responses into an average, with high and low guesses as well and report back. Just for giggles I take the final average and multiply it by the actual number reported. Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From greg.gillson at exgate.tek.com Mon Jan 20 14:53:34 2003 From: greg.gillson at exgate.tek.com (greg.gillson@exgate.tek.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: white-throat numbers Message-ID: <7EDB294F3EE1744BA2AB357D5C39579802A9AB0A@us-bv-m05> OBOL every winter (like the one that follows)... Fix's query about how many White-throats we are actually detecting, of those present, is some subset of the entire area of Oregon that is actually birded (Remember, Oregon goes out 200 miles into the ocean, too, according to ABA. But, except for an odd vagrant or two on an ocean liner, we can probably eliminate the sea as prime habitat for White-throats.). Even on a CBC with lots of teams, probably less than 5% of the count circle (every back yard, field, woodlot, etc.) is actually birded (even listening for louder birds such as White-throated Sparrows). I'd be surprised if birders actually bird much more than 1/10th of 1% of the area of Oregon (or any state). shorelines and roadsides get more coverage. Residential areas, where White-throated Sparrows may be more expected, probably get a bit more coverage, too-but not enough to make any significant difference. I'd venture that, at best, birders only bird 1/5th of 1% of Oregon's land surface, or 0.002. Thus, on average, for every widely distributed bird detected, there are 500 of the same species that go undetected. My terribly rough estimate would indicate there could be 243 * 500 = 121,500 White-throated Sparrows in Oregon. Wow! What is the total population? Of course, maybe 50% of Oregon is unsuitable for White-throats (forests, mountains in winter, most of the Great Basin, etc.). So that could reduce the number to less than 60,000. If the roadsides and residential areas really are covered more and are White-throat habitat, maybe we're catching twice the average. So 30,000 is probably a good guess. Even, that number is so high as to be unbelievable at first glance. But how far off is it really? Greg From gutchdon at yahoo.com Mon Jan 20 15:04:46 2003 From: gutchdon at yahoo.com (Don Gutcher) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Peregrine Falcoln Message-ID: In the course of looking for the Vermillion flycatcher at Woodburn, Marvin Tatchio and I stopped by the St.Louis ponds. This bird was on a pole about 350' passed the gate that is closed on weekends.The Peregrine was hunting in the fields to the west.A nice day for birding one and all. From sharonh at seasurf.net Mon Jan 20 16:16:35 2003 From: sharonh at seasurf.net (Sharon and Don) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Weekend Feeder Watching - White Throated Sparrow Message-ID: <3E2C9163.9010909@seasurf.net> January 18th and 19th watching our feeder from the vantage point of a warm window, within 30 minutes we saw fox sparrows, white crowned sparrows, song sparrows, at least one white throated sparrow, red breasted nuthatches, gold crown sparrows, American robins (sporting about in the lawn), house finches, Townsend's warblers, a Stellar's jay, scrub jay and of course, European starlings. Returned this afternoon to Bughole Road where we counted 18 swans (too distant for further identification), pintails, coots, scaups, bald eagle, Stellar's jay, scrub jay and a flock of gold crowns. From jacobsenp at fsl.orst.edu Mon Jan 20 16:12:01 2003 From: jacobsenp at fsl.orst.edu (Jacobsen, Paul) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Short eared owl - Basket Slough, Dallas, OR Message-ID: The short-eared owl was seen at Basket Slough. My first posting, and my last. Subject: Re: Short-eared owl From: KACastelein and DJLauten Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:44:17 -0800 X-Message-Number: 6 Folks, This is just the type of message that I was speaking about a day ago. Sorry Paul, I don't mean to pick on you, but this message contains NO information as to where you saw this bird - what town, county, etc etc - I haven't a clue where you are or where the bird is. I need this species for my county list (Coos), so I'd be real interested in knowing where this bird was (I suspect it wasn't in Coos Cty though!). Again, sorry to be making this message an example, I am not trying to be mean, I am trying to make this OBOL process work as easy as possible! Thanks Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com Jacobsen, Paul wrote: > This evening, Jan 18, we saw a short-eared owl in the meadow on top of the hill, near the overlook. It circled the meadow area for about five minutes and provided quite a show. We were there just after the sun dropped below the horizon, but while there was still plenty of light for viewing. From celata at pacifier.com Mon Jan 20 16:20:53 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Weekend Feeder Watching - White Throated Sparrow References: Message-ID: <3E2C9255.417271C4@pacifier.com> This would be in Astoria, Clatsop Co...... Sharon and Don wrote: > > January 18th and 19th watching our feeder from the vantage point of a > warm window, within 30 minutes we saw fox sparrows, white crowned > sparrows, song sparrows, at least one white throated sparrow, red > breasted nuthatches, gold crown sparrows, American robins (sporting > about in the lawn), house finches, Townsend's warblers, a Stellar's jay, > scrub jay and of course, European starlings. Returned this afternoon to > Bughole Road where we counted 18 swans (too distant for further > identification), pintails, coots, scaups, bald eagle, Stellar's jay, > scrub jay and a flock of gold crowns. -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From larmcqueen at msn.com Mon Jan 20 16:28:04 2003 From: larmcqueen at msn.com (Larry McQueen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: white-throat numbers References: Message-ID: <001a01c2c0e3$f6d33060$0200000a@newcomputer> Greg, this is a good attempt, but I think your analysis is too general. White-throats are not evenly distributed, obviously. One would have to take a percentage of White-throat (or Golden-crowned) habitat for the state, which would be far less than the 50%. I would even venture to say it could be less than 1%. Most of the good habitat is west of the Cascades, and there is still mostly open field, water, forest, beach, highway, parking lot, buildings, and many other areas just unsuitable for sparrows. Then, how often do we search good habitat without finding even Golden-crowns, let alone White-throats, and we select the likely habitat when we look for them. We don't look for a species randomly, so our count is already biased in its favor. Larry McQueen > Warning: mid-winter birding doldrums create crazy birding discussions on > OBOL every winter (like the one that follows)... > > Fix's query about how many White-throats we are actually detecting, of those > present, is some subset of the entire area of Oregon that is actually birded > (Remember, Oregon goes out 200 miles into the ocean, too, according to ABA. > But, except for an odd vagrant or two on an ocean liner, we can probably > eliminate the sea as prime habitat for White-throats.). Even on a CBC with > lots of teams, probably less than 5% of the count circle (every back yard, > field, woodlot, etc.) is actually birded (even listening for louder birds > such as White-throated Sparrows). I'd be surprised if birders actually bird > much more than 1/10th of 1% of the area of Oregon (or any state). shorelines > and roadsides get more coverage. Residential areas, where White-throated > Sparrows may be more expected, probably get a bit more coverage, too-but not > enough to make any significant difference. > > I'd venture that, at best, birders only bird 1/5th of 1% of Oregon's land > surface, or 0.002. Thus, on average, for every widely distributed bird > detected, there are 500 of the same species that go undetected. My terribly > rough estimate would indicate there could be 243 * 500 = 121,500 > White-throated Sparrows in Oregon. Wow! What is the total population? Of > course, maybe 50% of Oregon is unsuitable for White-throats (forests, > mountains in winter, most of the Great Basin, etc.). So that could reduce > the number to less than 60,000. If the roadsides and residential areas > really are covered more and are White-throat habitat, maybe we're catching > twice the average. So 30,000 is probably a good guess. > > Even, that number is so high as to be unbelievable at first glance. But how > far off is it really? > > Greg > > > > From Meiklemj at aol.com Mon Jan 20 16:33:00 2003 From: Meiklemj at aol.com (Meiklemj@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: New Orleans birding Message-ID: <1d0.5a1f29.2b5def3c@aol.com> Obolians: I have a conference in New Orleans (French Quarter) next weekend and have at least one full afternoon/evening free. Any advice on nearby good birding spots and what to look for? I've not been to New Orleans before, so appreciate any and all suggestions! Maggie Meikle Monmouth meiklemj@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030120/e7b6bf3d/attachment.htm From bcraig at attbi.com Mon Jan 20 16:55:26 2003 From: bcraig at attbi.com (bcraig) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Longspur successes Message-ID: Several (meaning about 15) birders showed up at the St. John's, POrtland, area this Monday morning Jan 20th where the McCown's Longspur has been seen. We all saw it quite well (after a 45 minute or so search) at about 11:30am and got a bonus as well as two Lapland Longspurs were also present, also seen by all in the group. My wife and I then went on to the Smith-Bybee Lakes and took the Interlake Trail to the B-blind. A pair of Bald Eagles sat atop of each pole on the power line pair just SW of the blind, and they talked to each other for about ten minutes before flying off to the NW. There is what appears to be a start of a stick nest on the cross bar between the poles. Whether the pile is a start of a nest by this pair is the question. Also seen were several Red-t'ed Hawk, one Am. Kestrel (eating a mouse), one No. Harrier, several Ruby-crowned Kinglets, many Ylo-rmp Warb, one Brown Creeper, and on Bybee Lake, Mallards, Ruddy Ducks, Ring-necked Ducks, No. Shovelers, Gadwalls, and Cooties. Later, we drove along Marine Dr. to Blue Lake park, and counted 28 Red-t'ed Hawk, three Kestrel, two No. Harrier. Bruce and Sheila Craig. From woodpecker97330 at YAHOO.COM Mon Jan 20 18:40:09 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at YAHOO.COM (Jamie Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Polk-Linn-Benton 1/20 Message-ID: Cliff Cordy and I made a loop trip through Polk, Linn and Benton Counties today, 1/20, with the following highlights: At Luckiamute Landing (POLK), we found at least 4 DOWNY WOODPECKERS and a HAIRY WOODPECKER, as well as 3 LINCOLN'S SPARROWS, 2 WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS and over 10 LESSER GOLDFINCHES. At Grand Prairie Park in Albany (LINN), we watched 4 large immature gulls for about an hour before finally deciding that one was an immature WESTERN GULL. As we were about to leave I spied a newly arrived adult WESTERN GULL, which made us laugh at our efforts! Also present were 3 drake EURASIAN WIGEON, and an adult GLAUCOUS-WINGED GULL. At the Scravel Hill Rd. pond at the east end Albany (LINN), we noted COMMON MERGANSERS and RUDDY DUCKS among others. We had almost completed the loop looking for the PACIFIC GOLDEN-PLOVER in the rectangle to the south west of the intersection of Tangent Rd. and Country Dr. (LINN) when we found a bunch of KILLDEER, then the sought-after plover, to the west of the railroad tracks on the south side of Tangent Rd. The lake on Stahlbusch Island (BENTON) yielded a nice variety of waterfowl including 2 male COMMON GOLDENEYE, several CANVASBACK, and COMMON MERGANSERS. Jamie Simmons Corvallis woodpecker97330@yahoo.com From birdsong at harborside.com Mon Jan 20 19:48:03 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: 1/20/03 Coos Cty Sparrows Message-ID: <3E2CC2F3.2070604@harborside.com> 1/20/03 Coos Cty Took a ride to Johnson Mill Pond near Coquille in Coos Cty this morning in search (foolishly?) for Greg Gillson's CBC A. Tree Sparrow. No such luck. One SWAMP SPARROW was calling from a cattail area in the lake, and another perched up for nice views near the first parking area. Then headed into Bandon via North Bank Road and noted 57 GREAT EGRETS in one field, and barely any others in any other field. Either this field had a lot to eat, or Great Egrets really like each other.... Then I walked another Bandon neighborhood in search of sparrows and feeders. Found one real productive area that yielded amongst its WHITE-CROWNED and GOLDEN-CROWNED SPARROWS and HOUSE SPARROWS and JUNCOS, one handsome WHITE-THROATED SPARROW. Tack it on. Interestingly this area had two well stocked feeders at either end of a nice kack. The kack had a small stream, and was thick with willows/alders, both understory and higher trees. And snags. One of the feeders along the edge of the kack was pretty deluxe but hard to see from the road. My guess from the looks of the amount of feeders they had a real hopping feeder and there could have been more goodies further in than I could see. Also, Stephen Brown emailed me and heard we were looking for WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS. He has two coming to his feeder. This is just about 3 houses away, across the street, and down a driveway from where I found the above kack. Tack them on too. Cheers Dave Lauten Bandon, OR birdsong@harborside.com From birdboy at bkpix.com Mon Jan 20 19:47:04 2003 From: birdboy at bkpix.com (Noah Strycker) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Harney County birds Message-ID: <00df01c2c0ff$d64c18e0$de1e6c0c@Pcreswell> Obol, Feeling a need to get out of the Willamette Valley, my dad and I decided to take a mid-winter birding trip to Malheur this weekend. We birded all day Saturday and Sunday and half of Monday in various parts of Harney County, in sub-freezing temperatures and an amazing fog bank that never lifted. We found no rarities (except maybe a Spotted Towhee -- see below), but it was still a fun trip. Sixty species overall. Non-bird sightings included two PORCUPINES, many COYOTES, and a RIVER OTTER. Saturday we birded the refuge itself. At HQ there were 5 BALD EAGLES, KILLDEER on the display pond (the only one of the trip), and a very sociable BLACK-BILLED MAGPIE that followed us around, pulling at our shoelaces. Along the CPR a BARN OWL flushed from the side of the road. At Benson Pond there were 2 more BALD EAGLES and TRUMPETER SWANS, but not much waterfowl. We saw 3 NORTHERN SHRIKES along the CPR south of there. Knox Pond had the most waterfowl of the trip, including the only COMMON and HOODED MERGANSERS, AMERICAN WIGEON, RING-NECKED DUCKS, and GADWALL. As we neared P Ranch, ROUGH-LEGGED HAWKS were everywhere, including a few dark phased, and also a flock of MOUNTAIN BLUEBIRDS. CEDAR WAXWINGS were flycatching by P Ranch. Waves and waves of AMERICAN ROBINS were there too -- must be a good berry crop. One DOWNY WOODPECKER, one RUBY-CROWNED KINGLET, and one COOPER'S HAWK were along the stream. Page Springs was pretty dead except for TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRES in the junipers. Likewise Frenchglen, but minus the solitaires! Sunday we made a loop to the east and north to come through Burns from the east side. We started at Buena Vista, where there was a SPOTTED TOWHEE -- Littlefield mentions two winter Malheur records, is is really that rare? Also the only AMERICAN GOLDFINCHES and HOUSE FINCHES of the trip. We turned east on the Diamond Junction. Near the junction was a LOGGERHEAD SHRIKE. Near Diamond itself was a PRAIRIE FALCON and an apparent SLATE-COLORED JUNCO. We passed by Dry Lake and found the only GREEN-WINGED TEAL and NORTHERN PINTAIL of the trip. After checking out the (birdless) Round Barn, we went on into Burns. There was one NORTHERN SHOVELER at the Burns Sewage Ponds with a nice concentration of COMMON GOLDENEYES (which were on nearly every body of water we checked). In a blackbird flock near Burns were two RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS. In the late afternoon we headed up to Idylwild Campground in the mountains north of Burns, to unexpectedly escape from the fog into brilliant sunshine! In the campground were CLARK'S NUTCRACKERS, RED CROSSBILLS, MOUNTAIN CHICKADEES, a BROWN CREEPER, RB and WB NUTHATCHES, etc. As dark fell we returned to Burns and drove around looking for feeders, which was a dud exercise. Monday (today) we again headed up to Idylwild Campground (looking for sunshine) and added WHITE-HEADED and HAIRY WOODPECKERS and GRAY JAYS to the birds already mentioned. On the way home we checked the Riley Pond (one whopping Song Sparrow) and Chickahominy Reservoir (one BALD EAGLE and one goldeneye). Overall, a nice (albeit frosty) trip -- one that I would definitely do again! Good birding, Noah Strycker (and Bob Keefer) Here's our trip list: Great Blue Heron Trumpeter Swan Canada Goose Green-winged Teal Mallard Northern Pintail Northern Shoveler Gadwall American Wigeon Ring-necked Duck Common Goldeneye Bufflehead Hooded Merganser Common Merganser Bald Eagle Northern Harrier Cooper's Hawk Red-tailed Hawk Rough-legged Hawk Golden Eagle American Kestrel Prairie Falcon Ring-necked Pheasant California Quail Killdeer Rock Dove Barn Owl Great Horned Owl Belted Kingfisher Downy Woodpecker Hairy Woodpecker White-headed Woodpecker Northern Flicker Horned Lark Gray Jay Steller's Jay Clark's Nutcracker Black-billed Magpie Common Raven Mountain Chickadee Red-breasted Nuthatch White-breasted Nuthatch Brown Creeper Ruby-crowned Kinglet Mountain Bluebird Townsend's Solitaire American Robin Cedar Waxwing Northern Shrike Loggerhead Shrike European Starling Spotted Towhee Song Sparrow Dark-eyed Junco Red-winged Blackbird Brewer's Blackbird House Finch Red Crossbill American Goldfinch House Sparrow From jgeier at attglobal.net Mon Jan 20 20:11:46 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: E.E. Wilson Wildlife Area sparrow report Message-ID: <3E2CC882.F645C4DC@attglobal.net> Hello birders, With a couple of regular birders out on the injured reserve list, I thought I'd better do my part and get over to E.E. Wilson Wildlife Area in NE Benton Co. On a big loop through the north end, surprisingly few waterfowl were on the ponds, but as usual there were plenty of sparrows and sparrow-loving raptors. One good spot was just north of headquarters, where the water flows over the roadway. Don DeWitt found a SWAMP SPARROW here during the Airlie CBC two weeks ago. I heard and briefly saw what was probably the same bird. Other sparrows within 50 paces of this spot included 2 LINCOLN'S SPARROWS, 2 WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS, plus SONG, SOOTY FOX, GOLDEN-CROWNED and WHITE-CROWNED SPARROWS. One female SLATE-COLORED JUNCO was with a flock of OREGON JUNCOS. Counting SPOTTED TOWHEES that made 10 sparrow forms right there. To top it off a SHARP-SHINNED HAWK came cruising over low and perched in the trees just a bit north. When I got to the northeast corner of the wildlife area where a SWAMP SPARROW has been since late October, sure enough it was there. I enjoyed a nice long look as it perched in a bramble bush along the south edge of the pond, next to some wet, tussocky grass/sedge that it had popped up out of, a very bright bird. At one point a LINCOLN'S SPARROW flew in to perch in the same bramble. When the sparrows finally dropped down, I turned around to see a MARSH WREN foraging along the edge of a wet channel, down in between tussocks along a line of bushes, very bright against the dark water and mud. I don't know when I have seen three more striking birds right in a row. It really doesn't get any better than that ... but it did. Just as I started to leave the area, a MERLIN flew in to land atop a scrubby tree that same row of bushes about 40 ft away from me, and sat looking back at me for half a minute or so before it decided to continue on. I counted about 14 LINCOLN'S SPARROWS on the loop, mostly in wet, tussocky areas or other grassy areas close to water. Cool, overcast days like today really seem to bring them out. The two Swamp Sparrows were "known" birds and the three White-throated Sparrows I saw are probably not "new" either, but this was still a good couple of hours in the field if you ask me. And I still had to get past 30+ SAVANNAH SPARROWS, 20 HORNED LARKS, a hundred or so ROBINS, and 350 RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS on the way home. No "late-winter doldrums" here! Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From birdsong at harborside.com Mon Jan 20 20:21:15 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: White-throated Sparrows Message-ID: <3E2CCABB.6010608@harborside.com> I have to agree with Larry on this one. I was thinking the same way when I read Greg's note. As Larry said, populations are far from eveningly distributed on the landscape. Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From whoffman at pioneer.net Mon Jan 20 20:23:32 2003 From: whoffman at pioneer.net (whoffman@pioneer.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: white-throat numbers References: Message-ID: <3E2CCB44.7ECB@pioneer.net> Another consideration is that, at least where they are not tightly tied to feeders, Zono winter flocks may loop ovar a considerable area daily, so the effective area searched by watching a small portion of habitat (a yard) may be larger than you expect. greg.gillson@exgate.tek.com wrote: > > Warning: mid-winter birding doldrums create crazy birding discussions on > OBOL every winter (like the one that follows)... > > Fix's query about how many White-throats we are actually detecting, of those > present, is some subset of the entire area of Oregon that is actually birded > (Remember, Oregon goes out 200 miles into the ocean, too, according to ABA. > But, except for an odd vagrant or two on an ocean liner, we can probably > eliminate the sea as prime habitat for White-throats.). Even on a CBC with > lots of teams, probably less than 5% of the count circle (every back yard, > field, woodlot, etc.) is actually birded (even listening for louder birds > such as White-throated Sparrows). I'd be surprised if birders actually bird > much more than 1/10th of 1% of the area of Oregon (or any state). shorelines > and roadsides get more coverage. Residential areas, where White-throated > Sparrows may be more expected, probably get a bit more coverage, too-but not > enough to make any significant difference. > > I'd venture that, at best, birders only bird 1/5th of 1% of Oregon's land > surface, or 0.002. Thus, on average, for every widely distributed bird > detected, there are 500 of the same species that go undetected. My terribly > rough estimate would indicate there could be 243 * 500 = 121,500 > White-throated Sparrows in Oregon. Wow! What is the total population? Of > course, maybe 50% of Oregon is unsuitable for White-throats (forests, > mountains in winter, most of the Great Basin, etc.). So that could reduce > the number to less than 60,000. If the roadsides and residential areas > really are covered more and are White-throat habitat, maybe we're catching > twice the average. So 30,000 is probably a good guess. > > Even, that number is so high as to be unbelievable at first glance. But how > far off is it really? > > Greg From jgeier at attglobal.net Mon Jan 20 20:35:19 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Finley NWR swallows Message-ID: <3E2CCE07.799D652B@attglobal.net> Hello birders, Relaying on another report from Richard Hoyer Sr. here: This afternoon he noted two BARN SWALLOWS (looked like immatures) along Bruce Rd. at Finley NWR. Also flying with them was a BROWN-BACKED SWALLOW that appeared to be much smaller than the Barn Swallows, and showed a hint of a mark across the throat, making him think of Bank or Rough-winged although he's aware those would be odd for this time of year and place. He thought it looked too small for a young Tree Swallow. He hoped someone might have a chance to get out there and try to get a better look if it stays in the area. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From birdsong at harborside.com Mon Jan 20 20:35:40 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: White-throated Sparrows! Message-ID: <3E2CCE1C.1000608@harborside.com> I just got another message from Stephen Brown that he had for sure 5 WHITE-THROATED SPARROWS aat his feeder today, and possibly even a 6th. This is in Bandon, Coos Cty, 1/20/03 Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From whoffman at pioneer.net Mon Jan 20 20:31:16 2003 From: whoffman at pioneer.net (whoffman@pioneer.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Pelican, murres Message-ID: <3E2CCD14.754@pioneer.net> under the bridge. I get the feeling there are some around that will winter on the central Oregon coast this year. I visited Yaquina Head at 11:30. A raft of 2500 or so Common Murres were sitting on the water off the lighthouse, and small flocks were flying around all over. In the raft, birds were tightly packed together, and swimming around rapidly with outstretch necks and much jyammering. According to the Ranger, many more were present earlier in the morning. Murre colonies get such winter visitations off and on through the winter, particulaly early in the day, and particularly in better-than-average weather. While I was watching them an adult Bald Eagle flew in off the ocean carrying something smaller than a murre. A subadult eagle flew out and tried for several minutes to steal this item. The adult kept its prize, as long as I could see them, but both birds disappeared to the northeast with the pursuit still under way. From whoffman at pioneer.net Mon Jan 20 20:34:11 2003 From: whoffman at pioneer.net (whoffman@pioneer.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Finley NWR swallows References: Message-ID: <3E2CCDC3.3638@pioneer.net> Last winter we had a lively discussion of winter swallow occurrences. I guess this winter it's old hat? For what it's worth, my sense is that these are an early northward movement rather than local lingerers. Joel Geier wrote: > > Hello birders, > > Relaying on another report from Richard Hoyer Sr. here: > > This afternoon he noted two BARN SWALLOWS (looked like > immatures) along Bruce Rd. at Finley NWR. Also flying with > them was a BROWN-BACKED SWALLOW that appeared to be much > smaller than the Barn Swallows, and showed a hint of a mark > across the throat, making him think of Bank or Rough-winged > although he's aware those would be odd for this time of year > and place. He thought it looked too small for a young Tree > Swallow. He hoped someone might have a chance to get out > there and try to get a better look if it stays in the area. > > Good birding, > Joel > -- > Joel Geier > jgeier@attglobal.net From ilenesamowitz at attbi.com Mon Jan 20 21:05:50 2003 From: ilenesamowitz at attbi.com (Ilene Samowitz) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Correction on Yesterday's Post Message-ID: <003901c2c10a$cbeb1490$c9c2e40c@c167584a> I incorrectly stated seeing 2 white-shouldered Kites...It should have read white-tailed Kites on Goodspeed Road in Tillamook. *********************************** Ilene Samowitz Seattle, WA Rockaway Beach, OR *********************************** From stukar at teleport.com Mon Jan 20 20:59:11 2003 From: stukar at teleport.com (Karen & Stuart Sparkman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Horned Lark report Message-ID: <000f01c2c10a$5b348ec0$c9101ad8@k1o8q2> I promised to report on responses to my inquiry about Streaked Horned Larks wintering in the Willamette Valley. Most responses were reported to OBOL, but here is the summary anyway: 1. There is apparently not much interest in this subject. A whopping 7 people responded. 2. Horned Larks are difficult to identify to subspecies in winter, and other subspecies apparently move into the Willamette Valley from other areas. Some Streaked Horned Larks probably move south from western Washington, and some of ours may further south. 3. Horned Larks (and numbers) were reported from the following west side areas this winter: Columbia River Dredge Spoils ("easy to find") Marine Drive, Portland (80-300, depending on who you ask, many strigata present) Livermore Rd., Polk Co. (75, many strigata present) NE Benton Co. near E.E. Wilson (28-30, mostly strigata) SE of Peoria, Linn Co. (107, unknown subspecies) Greenberry area, Benton Co. (1, unknown subspecies) There were some indirect references to Horned Larks somewhere in Linn Co; not sure if these are the same as the Peoria area birds. This adds up to a little over 500 horned larks in western Oregon this winter that were reported. Are there more out there? Karen Sparkman Salem stukar@teleport.com From campbell at peak.org Mon Jan 20 21:10:26 2003 From: campbell at peak.org (campbell@peak.org) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Yaquina Bay Red-Shouldered Hawk Message-ID: Saturday afternoon, Mary and I found a juvenile Red-Shouldered Hawk in the marsh where 35th street meets the south side of the bay. Beyond a barred tail (two full bars beyond the wingtips) and faintly "scaled" feathers across the back, it had few field marks. I thought we were pretty clever, but apparently the locals, and maybe everyone else, too, already know about this bird. The little marsh was packed that afternoon and paid off better than the bay. Randy Campbell From prigge1 at mindspring.com Mon Jan 20 21:51:10 2003 From: prigge1 at mindspring.com (Allen Prigge) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Swallows Message-ID: <000001c2c111$603cd740$a0201ad8@net> Before reading Wayne Hoffman's post re the swallows on Finley NWR I would have guessed that the 3 TREE SWALLOWS seen in the Stewart Pond area this pm were lingerers. However, I trust his sense more than my guess. Observers were Bill Hunter, Billy Hunter, Amy (from West Linn) and myself. Al Prigge From bcraig at attbi.com Mon Jan 20 22:16:59 2003 From: bcraig at attbi.com (bcraig) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Lapland Longspur Message-ID: My previous post was "Longspur successes," but did not include in the "Subject" header that two LAPLAND LONGSPUR were seen Monday 20th about 11:30 am at the St. Johns, Portland, Oregon, site where the McCown's Longspur has been seen for several days. This "second posting" is for those that may have missed the "Lapland" sighting in my first posting. About 15 were present and saw them; they, like the McCown's (also seen at the same time) were with the Horned Larks. Bruce Craig. From avocet5 at hotmail.com Mon Jan 20 23:08:15 2003 From: avocet5 at hotmail.com (Holly Reinhard) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Vermilion yes, Gyr no. Message-ID: Obol, Vjera Arnold and I birded around today and saw the VERMILION FLYCATCHER at the Woodburn area. We saw it around 10am this morning along with another birder from Salem, Glen ________ (Sorry, I can't remember your last name). It was great to see the bird's bright red-and-black reflection in the pond! Along with him were some CINNAMON TEAL and a few BUFFLEHEAD. We also looked for the White-phase Gyrfalcon, but no luck today. (Although we did spot Chris and Kristie Butler--they had no luck with the Gyr either.)However, that is a great area for sparrows; I bet if seed were put out there, you could get some White-throated (along with the Golden-crowned and White-crowned that were there today). -Holly Reinhard OSU, Corvallis, Benton County _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From ptsulliv at spiritone.com Mon Jan 20 23:38:32 2003 From: ptsulliv at spiritone.com (Paul T. Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: How many Great Egrets? Message-ID: <005801c2c120$309ff9e0$a3db63d8@pauls> Forget White-throated Sparrows; how many GREAT EGRETS did you see on Sunday, Jan. 19? From mitcher4 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 21 06:04:44 2003 From: mitcher4 at hotmail.com (Mitch Ratzlaff) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: How many Great Egrets? References: Message-ID: Paul and OBOL, I've seen over 80 at a time on Round Lake/Steelman Lake with many others simultaneously in the air over Sauvie's Island this winter. I'd estimate over 120 out there at any given time, but probably more. Mitch Ratzlaff Newberg mitcher4@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul T. Sullivan" To: "Obol" Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: [obol] How many Great Egrets? OBOL: Forget White-throated Sparrows; how many GREAT EGRETS did you see on Sunday, Jan. 19? From winkg at hevanet.com Tue Jan 21 07:31:56 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: OBOL: Wallowa County Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030120195811.021a4258@pop.hevanet.com> Becki and I traveled out to NE Oregon this weekend because it was high time I saw a Bohemian Waxwing. We spent Sunday driving around a very foggy and frosty Wallowa valley. We found a large flock of BOHEMIAN WAXWINGS near Lostine as we were driving in, so that took the pressure off for the rest of the day. A female BARROW'S GOLDENEYE and a TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE were at the Enterprise fish hatchery. Joseph was completely socked in and we only found one additional Bohemian Waxwing, an EVENING GROSBEAK, a CASSIN'S FINCH, and a couple of AMERICAN GOLDFINCHES among a bunch of HOUSE FINCHES and HOUSE SPARROWS. Most of Wallowa Lake was in heavy fog, but an enormous flock of MALLARDS was visible. A DIPPER was in the woods near the Marina at the south end of the lake. Two trips to OK Gulch produced nothing except a chance to get above the fog on the Zumwalt Road. No birds up there, but good views and sunshine. Returning via Repplinger Rd we found a nice flock of about 40 AMERICAN TREE SPARROWS, looking very pretty among the frost-covered branches. A few ROUGH-LEGGED HAWKS and BALD EAGLES and lots of RED-TAIL HAWKS was it for raptors. CEDAR WAXWINGS predominated in Enterprise, but there were also a few more BOHEMIANS. Driving out Golf Course Rd and Evans Loop Rd to Lostine in heavy fog at the end of the day produced only 4 species: COMMON RAVEN, NORTHERN FLICKER, NORTHERN HARRIER and NORTHERN SHRIKE. Wink Gross Portland From KIT at OREGON.UOREGON.EDU Tue Jan 21 08:05:33 2003 From: KIT at OREGON.UOREGON.EDU (KIT@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Eugene area Message-ID: <01KRHMR4BPXE8Y4Z5Y@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> Sat, Jan 18, I had a Red Shouldered Hawk in East Springfield, near 66th St and the McKenzie River. George Grier, who lives nearby, says it has been there for several weeks. I saw another Red Shouldered Hawk near Royal Ave in Fern Ridge. There were two Kites and about ten Northern Harriers. I counted 16 Great Egrets from the dam. The Palm Warbler was in the field between Stewart Pond and Bertlesen Rd. A flock of Yellow Rumped Warblers fed in the tall grass and occasionally showed up on the bushes just south of the large pond. For a short while, we had looks at the Palm Warbler among the others, and then could find it no more. Kit Larsen Eugene From linda at fink.com Tue Jan 21 08:53:46 2003 From: linda at fink.com (Linda Fink) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: quantum birding Message-ID: >. The sparrows switch back and forth as a function >of quantifying events, and must be regarded as present in >both counties simultaneously, in some statistical sense. I am so glad to hear this. That means all the waterfowl I see on the Willamina Sewage Ponds are in both Polk and Yamhill counties. I hope all those birders who make a habit of chasing the ducks from one end of the pond to the other so they can count them in both counties will give it up now. (The phenomenon of resonance is beyond me so I'll stick with Heidegger and statistics. Not that I understand those either.) Linda Fink of SW Yamhill County, probably not close enough to Polk Co. to be countable there, except on really fast days p.s. To make this message fit in the OBOL guidelines, a white-tailed kite sailed over our farm near Grand Ronde from the north yesterday, circled an indignant GBH on the top of a snag, and sailed back to the north (all within Yamhill Co.) From David.K.Mellinger at noaa.gov Tue Jan 21 09:44:49 2003 From: David.K.Mellinger at noaa.gov (David K Mellinger) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Smith Rock: Barrow's Goldeneyes, TV Message-ID: <52b6152454.5245452b61@pmel.noaa.gov> In Smith Rock State Park near Redmond on Saturday were two BARROW'S GOLDENEYES. They were about 1/2 mile upstream of the park footbridge. Directly north of there, soaring by the cliffs, was a TURKEY VULTURE, which I thought unusual for the season. And the Pinyon Jays in Sisters were in the usual place, behind the high school. Dave Mellinger mellinger@pmel.noaa.gov From larmcqueen at msn.com Tue Jan 21 09:50:36 2003 From: larmcqueen at msn.com (Larry McQueen) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Quail querie Message-ID: <001f01c2c175$9dd5bcc0$0200000a@newcomputer> Obolites I had one response on the Bobwhite question, and with Tom's permission, I post it below. I now expand the question: does anyone have examples of interaction (or tolerance) between any two species of quail in the wild? Has anyone even seen two non-introduced species of quail together? -- Larry McQueen >I noticed your OBOL posting on January 15 which addressed the question of the Bobwhite and its failure to thrive here. You had asked if anyone had tales of interaction between the Bobwhite and California Quail. Several years ago, friends of ours on the NW edge of Corvallis had a lone Bobwhite hanging about their yard and feeders for a period of 3-5 months. More often than not, the Bobwhite would be driven off the feeding area beneath the feeders by local California Quail. I don't believe they were ever seen to peacefully coexist and feed, the Bobwhite invariably the loser in the turf battles if the other Quail were in the vicinity. Tom Griffith Corvallis (Of course the example of one does not make a pattern, but the single Bobwhite was not ignored - LM) From 5hats at peak.org Tue Jan 21 10:26:52 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: grouse guess Message-ID: <002001c2c17a$d09ee3c0$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> obol, To go along with quail query............What is the status of the reintroduced population of Sharp-tailed Grouse in Wallowa County? I haven't heard a thing about them for a long time. Are they still present at all? Darrel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030121/4872704b/attachment.htm From tlove at linfield.edu Tue Jan 21 10:52:22 2003 From: tlove at linfield.edu (Thomas Love) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Vancouver Canada Goose in Oregon? (fwd) Message-ID: Below fyi regarding "Vancouver" Canada Goose (Branta canadenisis fulva) in Oregon, from Dr. John Ratti, goose specialist at the Univ. of Idaho, with his permission. Tom L. tlove@linfield.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:14:57 -0800 From: John Ratti To: Thomas Love Subject: RE: Vancouver Canada Goose in Oregon? Thomas: Referring to "the small population" of B.c. fulva in Oregon is probably an over statement. The only good records of wintering fulva outside of Alaska come from banding data. The subspecific population is small to begin with, and they are considered a "non-migratory" population, with most birds remaining in Southeast Alaska year round. The very small number of band recoveries outside of Alaska suggest the fewer than 1% of the birds migrate south for the winter. Of these few returns, several have come from birds along the coast. If you wanted to "see" a fulva bird in Oregon, the best place would probably be among Canada goose flocks in the Willamette Valley. But how would you know if you observed one?? Well, you really can't. Color and size characteristics are not a reliable field ID. The only good ID would be to capture, kill, or find dead banded bird that was banded during the molt period in SE Alaska (and even that would not be a 100% ID). Over the years I've heard stories of small flocks of dark Canada geese spending much of their time on salt water around Padilla Bay, Puget Sound and Vancouver Island. My guess would be that these birds are likely fulva ... but that would only be a guess. No one (and I mean no one) can look at these birds from a distance or in the hand and be certain they are fulva (without banding data as noted above). If you want to be certain of observation of fulva, the best place would be the flats around Juneau Airport ... espcially in winter. During summer they are seen throughtout much of SE AK. Suggested reading: Ratti, J. T., D. E. Timm, and F. C. Robards. 1977. Weights and measurements of Vancouver Canada geese. Bird-Banding 48:354-357. Ratti, J. T., D. E. Timm, and D. R. Anderson. 1978. Reevaluation of survival estimates for Vancouver Canada geese: Application of modern methods. Wildlife Society Bulletin 6:146-148. Ratti, J. T., and D. E. Timm. 1979. Migratory behavior of Vancouver Canada geese: Recovery rate bias. Pages 208?212 in R. L. Jarvis and J. C. Bartonek, eds. Proceedings of management and biology of Pacific flyway geese. N.W. Sect. Wildlife Society, Portland. VanHorn, D., P. Harrington, and J. T. Ratti. 1979. Preliminary results of surveys of the Vancouver Canada goose (Branta canadensis fulva) in Southeast Alaska. Pages 310-315 in R. L. Jarvis and J. C. Bartonek, eds. Proceedings of management and biology of Pacific flyway geese. N.W. Sect. Wildlife Society, Portland. Lebeda, C. S., and J. T. Ratti. 1983. Reproductive biology of Vancouver Canada geese on Admiralty Island, Alaska. Journal of Wildlife Management 47:297-306. You might also find the following paper helpful, with regard to "observation" of a subspecies such as B.c. fulva: Ratti, J. T. 1980. The classification of avian species and subspecies. American Birds 34:860-865. If you have additional questions, please feel free. John -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Love [mailto:tlove@linfield.edu] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 4:50 PM To: John Ratti Subject: Vancouver Canada Goose in Oregon? Dear Dr. Ratti: a web search regarding the Vancouver race of the Canada Goose (Branta canadensis fulva) turned up your name. I am Secretary of Oregon Field Ornithologists. We are very interested in tracking down where the small population of these geese typically winters in W. Oregon, given that a Bean Goose (Anser fabalis) was present last month (December) near Hoquiam, WA, associating with a small group of Vancouvers. These birds disappeared mid-December, and there is some suspicion they may be somewhere in western Oregon. Any help you can provide will be most appreciated, and which I will promptly share with the Oregon birding community. Many thanks in advance. Tom Love *********************************** Thomas Love Professor of Anthropology Linfield College 900 SE Baker St. McMinnville, Oregon 97128 email: tlove@linfield.edu tel: 503-883-2504 fax: 503-883-2566 elev: 45 m. (150 ft.) lat/long: 45N, 123W *********************************** From snowyowl98683 at comcast.net Tue Jan 21 10:59:51 2003 From: snowyowl98683 at comcast.net (Mark Miller) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Quail query Message-ID: Hi Everyone-- I have photographs from Texas of Northern Bobwhite and Scaled Quail feeding together without antagonism at a feeding station. In California, I've seen California and Mountain Quail in the same area several times: in the Santa Lucia Mountains along the coast south of Monterey, on the west slope of the Sierra Nevada mountains, and in the San Gabriel Mountains north of Los Angeles. The two species meet in chaparral with clumps of arctostaphylos spp. and ceanothus spp. They don't usually form mixed-species flocks, but one can hear both species call simultaneously, and where there are feeding stations, both species will come, but the Mountains are more secretive. There should be places in Oregon where one can find both, but I haven't run across them yet. Mark Miller Vancouver, WA snowyowl98683@comcast,net From m.denny at charter.net Tue Jan 21 11:34:06 2003 From: m.denny at charter.net (Mike Denny) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Quail vs Quail Message-ID: <000e01c2c184$10470990$ea0b7144@BLACKBIRD> Hello All, Here in Southeastern Washington in 1890 near Prescott, Walla Walla Co. the State and several individuals planted large numbers of Bobwhite as the native Sharp-tailed Grouse population was on its way out due to spring plowing and uncontrolled hunting. It was figured that Bobwhite would replace the grouse for the fall hunting season. By 1895 Bobwhite were present in such huge numbers that large groups of hunters came from the Puget Sound just to hunt these imports.By 1900 the Bobwhite population had exploded and the species was considered abundant. Now this quail was spreading all up and down the Touchet River and into the Walla Walla River basin. In 1919 the State of Washington decided that more was better and the California Quail was introduced in several locations in the Touchet and Walla Walla River basins. By 1924 the last of the native Sharp-tailed Grouse were gone and the Northern Bobwhite population was so reduced that most hunters stopped the hunt and went after the exploding California Quail populations. According to Lee Dice the Bobwhite were all but gone by 1926 with just a few islands left in a sea of California Quail. We saw the last tiny island vanish during the winter of 1993 just northwest of Milton-freewater. Bobwhite are still frequintly releases by dog clubs and people that order chicks from time to time, but the huge stable populations were out competed and taken out by the California Quail. Later Mike Denny ******************************************************************** Mike & MerryLynn Denny 323 Scenic View Drive College Place, WA 99324 509.529.0080 (h) IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BIRDING, YOU HAVEN'T LIVED! ******************************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030121/fb7f9c07/attachment.htm From winkg at hevanet.com Tue Jan 21 17:13:28 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Harlequin Duck, Deschutes R. State Park Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030121073203.036b76b0@pop.hevanet.com> A female HARLEQUIN DUCK was with about 50 GOLDENEYE (mostly BARROW'S) at Deschutes River SP (Sherman Co) on Saturday, Jan 18. Also a pair of HOODED MERGANSERS and about 10 COMMON MERGANSERS. A MERLIN was at Katy's Pond in the Umatilla NWR on Saturday, also. Wink Gross Portland From acontrer at mindspring.com Tue Jan 21 17:29:48 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Departure Message-ID: Dave Eshbaugh has resigned as director of Portland Audubon Society. I think this qualifies as bird news. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From birdboy at bkpix.com Tue Jan 21 18:44:02 2003 From: birdboy at bkpix.com (Noah Strycker) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: West Eugene birds Message-ID: <003701c2c1c0$229d2200$a11e6c0c@Pcreswell> Obol, This afternoon one ROSS' GOOSE was in a flock of Canadas along K.R. Nielson Rd. in west Eugene. I also briefly checked Stewart Pond, no Ruff. A few dowitchers and yellowlegs. Two white domestic geese were in a flock in a field just to the west of there. The most startling bird, though, was a bright male RING-NECKED PHEASANT right in the middle of the goose flock, shouldering his way through. Talk about a cocky bird! Good birding, Noah Strycker (east of Creswell) From jeffgill at teleport.com Tue Jan 21 17:53:44 2003 From: jeffgill at teleport.com (Jeff Gilligan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: FW: Vancouver or was it Dusky Canadas? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ---------- From: Jeff Gilligan Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:50:57 -0800 To: Subject: Vancouver or was it Dusky Canadas? I believe that Ruth Sullivan identified the geese that the Bean Goose was (is?) with were Dusky Canada Geese. I think that Steve Mladnow indicated that the Bean Goose was with Vancouver Canada Geese. In any case, it was with Canadas that are dark. If it was with Duskies, we probably have a better chance than if it was with Vancouvers. Is anyone checking Finley NWR and nearby areas? (I have to get back on the chase this Saturday.) From gerald at e-z.net Tue Jan 21 19:14:43 2003 From: gerald at e-z.net (Gerald Hamilton) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: ........The day of the Dunlins!!!!!]] Message-ID: <3E2E0CA3.2050309@e-z.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fwd: ........The day of the Dunlins!!!!!] Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:13:29 -0800 From: Gerald Hamilton To: "\"\"obol\"@lists.orst.edu>" -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ........The day of the Dunlins!!!!! Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:10:59 -0800 From: Gerald Hamilton To: "Wash. Tweeters" .................Long Beach Peninsula, Leadbetter Point and south Willapa Bay may not always have as many varieties of shorebirds as other more famous places along the Wash. or Oregon shores. But it sure can be noted at times for "sheer numbers" of shorebirds. .................This weekend dense flocks of mainly DUNLIN lined the ocean shore (north peninsula) as far as the eye could see in both directions. Multiple swarms rose--in black clouds...than whitish clouds--repetedly over the ocean, only to settle back exactly where they were. *Thousands* of Dunlin would not be over-stating the fact!! Mixed in with the Dunlin were a goodly number of WESTERN SANDPIPERS and....the usual vast numbers of SANDERLINGS scurrying around. Then.........there was the one lonesome SEMIPALMATED PLOVER busy about its own business. ................On the Willapa Bay beach the receding tide attracted a number of LEAST SANDPIPERS and BLACK-BELLIED PLOVERS to mingle with the ab undant Dunlin there. The tide this weekend was very high and very low, which may have had something to do with attracting such astronomical numbers of shorebirds----nothing unusual seen---just awesome in the sheer numbers. ................No TRUMPETER SWANS yet at Black lake at Illwaco. But plenty of CANADA GEESE (3 different sub-species), HARRIER HAWKS, MARSH WRENS; SPARROWS; RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS; BELTED KINGFISHERS; elk and deer at JBLH Whitetail Deer Refuge at Cathalmet, Wash. Lots of RINGNECK DUCKS; BUFFLEHEAD; SCAUP; and common dipping ducks on the sloughs and wetlands. But not the numbers of other species of winter ducks I usually see there. A LOON was spotted, but it wouldn't stay above water long enough for me to identify the species!!! A WHITE-TAILED KITE has been seen in the area. ...............A large flock of TUNDRA SWANS were seen two weeks ago at the usual place on the pond along I-5 just north of Kalama, Wash. But they were not there Sat. . ..............The mild winter has kept many of the migrant ducks further north towards Canada this year , so I haven't yet seen the usual more diverse species one usually spots in these areas. ................As for the birds I didn't see.....oh well, the *next* trip always holds infinite promise!!! (-: ................Gerald Hamilton Brush Prairie, Wash. gerald@e-z.net From FoxSparrows at aol.com Tue Jan 21 19:15:17 2003 From: FoxSparrows at aol.com (FoxSparrows@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:42 2004 Subject: Harlequin Duck, Deschutes R. State Park Message-ID: In a message dated 1/21/2003 5:15:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, winkg@hevanet.com writes: > A female HARLEQUIN DUCK was with about 50 GOLDENEYE (mostly > BARROW'S) at Deschutes River SP (Sherman Co) on Saturday, Jan 18. > Hi! Are there any more details...? This is kind of a big deal, for this species. A photo from someone in the areas would be great! Steve Dowlan, Editor OREGON BIRDS The Quarterly Journal of the Oregon Field Ornithology P.O. Box 220 Mehama, OR 97384 OregonBirds@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Clint Brumitt cbrumitt@jeffnet.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030121/07889538/attachment.htm From winkg at hevanet.com Tue Jan 21 19:51:03 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Harlequin Duck, Deschutes R. State Park In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030121194510.036b3008@pop.hevanet.com> Small, dark duck (slightly smaller than Goldeneye) with a white auricular patch and 2 merged white patches at base of stubby bill. I didn't realize until I got home that a Harlequin Duck would be unusual at this location in winter, so did not bother with notes or photos. I did check field guide and rechecked the bird to make sure of the ID. Wink At 10:15 PM 1/21/2003 -0500, FoxSparrows@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 1/21/2003 5:15:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, >winkg@hevanet.com writes: > >>A female HARLEQUIN DUCK was with about 50 GOLDENEYE (mostly >>BARROW'S) at Deschutes River SP (Sherman Co) on Saturday, Jan 18. > > >Hi! > >Are there any more details...? This is kind of a big deal, for this >species. A photo from someone in the areas would be great! > >Steve Dowlan, Editor >OREGON BIRDS >The Quarterly Journal of >the Oregon Field Ornithology >P.O. Box 220 >Mehama, OR 97384 >OregonBirds@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030121/7c024299/attachment.htm From FoxSparrows at aol.com Tue Jan 21 20:40:58 2003 From: FoxSparrows at aol.com (FoxSparrows@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: dippers Message-ID: <1be.1c207877.2b5f7ada@aol.com> In a message dated 1/21/2003 7:32:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, cbrumitt@jeffnet.org writes: > Is it normal to see dippers in January anywhere in Oregon? Yes! Most are probably resident, as far as I know, so wherever you saw them in the summer is a good bet for winter too. They even remain at lakes and streams which remain unfrozen at pass level. > > Was I observing some form of pre-breeding behavior? Possibly! I've heard them burst into lovely full songs in December and January several times. > > If so, is this early for the beginning of breeding season? > I suspect that resident birds such as Dippers which remain within their breeding territories might engage in some "foreplay" at this time... Is the author of the BOGR species account for Dippers out there? Kevin Smith, did you observe anything like this in Deschutes Co. last year during your "photo essay" period? Steve Dowlan, Editor OREGON BIRDS The Quarterly Journal of the Oregon Field Ornithology P.O. Box 220 Mehama, OR 97384 OregonBirds@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030121/ae4b309e/attachment.htm From gorgebirds at juno.com Tue Jan 21 21:00:08 2003 From: gorgebirds at juno.com (Wilson E Cady) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: FW: Vancouver or was it Dusky Canadas? Message-ID: <20030121.210216.-353931.0.gorgebirds@juno.com> On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:53:44 -0800 Jeff Gilligan writes: > > I believe that Ruth Sullivan identified the geese that the Bean > Goose was (is?) with were Dusky Canada Geese. I think that Steve Mladnow > indicated that the Bean Goose was with Vancouver Canada Geese. In any case, > it was with Canadas that are dark. If it was with Duskies, we probably > have a better chance than if it was with Vancouvers. Is anyone checking > Finley NWR and nearby areas? > > (I have to get back on the chase this Saturday.) When I saw the Bean Goose it was in a mixed flock of Canada Geese that contained Dusky Canada Geese, easily identifiable by the bright red-orange neck collars on a couple of the birds. Wilson Cady Washougal, WA gorgebirds@juno.com From rbayer at orednet.org Tue Jan 21 21:15:40 2003 From: rbayer at orednet.org (Range Bayer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Lincoln Co.: Possible Female Indigo Bunting Message-ID: Hi, John & Linda MacKown live at the eastern side of Sallys Bend at Yaquina Bay. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:40:51 -0800 From: john &linda To: R D. Bayer Subject: Possible Indigo Bunting Hi Range, Linda spotted an unusual bird this morning, a possible female Indigo Bunting. The bird was slightly smaller than a House Finch, was cinnamon colored with a small light throat and striations on it's chest. Appeared to have a slight crown or pointed head. Linda contacted Rebecca, Chuck, Wayne, and Darryl. If you have time you may one to check this one out. We saw it around 9 to 10 this morning for a couple of hours. You can call us in the morning if you like at 541-265-3245 to see if we have spotted it again. John MacKown From bigrocketman3 at webtv.net Wed Jan 22 00:32:08 2003 From: bigrocketman3 at webtv.net (Steve McDonald) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Bean Goose & Fellow Travelers Message-ID: <14102-3E2E5708-29@storefull-2113.public.lawson.webtv.net> Regarding the recent messages about the Washington Bean Goose being seen with either Vancouver or Dusky Canada Geese: On the photos posted of this goose on Joe Morlan's website, it is accompanied by what is clearly a Western Canada Goose. This C. Goose is larger and much lighter colored than the other two subspecies. See it here, if you missed the URL the first time it was posted: http://fog.ccsf.org/~jmorlan/gallery.htm Scroll down and click on "Bean Goose", on the left panel. Steve McDonald From bigrocketman3 at webtv.net Wed Jan 22 01:03:37 2003 From: bigrocketman3 at webtv.net (Steve McDonald) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Quail Species Coexisting Message-ID: <14927-3E2E5E69-11@storefull-2113.public.lawson.webtv.net> There's a large amount of good quail habitat in the Willamette Valley, that has few birds in it. Something other than interspecies competition has limited the numbers of them all. Back when Bobwhites were common, I also saw many more Valley and Mountain Quail. Along the grassy and partially wooded areas near the base of the Coburg Hills, I would sometimes see all three species in the same area, as well as some Gray Partridge. Mountain Quail came down and flew across the McKenzie River and ranged into the river bottom jungles as far as a mile from the hills. Two years ago, along the Weyerhaeuser Rd., south of Hwy.126, I saw and heard two Bobwhites, then soon came upon several dozen Valley Quail. A little farther and two Mountain Quail crossed the road. Going up the steep slope on the eastside, I found both Ruffed and Blue Grouse, but multiple sightings like this are rare. I still hear a Bobwhite every Spring, somewhere in this general area, but nowhere else for the last 20 years. Incidentally, I once had some of every species of North American quail in my captive collection. During the Fall and Winter, I kept many of them in a very large flight cage that had numerous small pines and junipers growing in it. They would all roost in the trees, often birds of several species snuggling together without discrimination. Steve McDonald From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Wed Jan 22 06:49:21 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Quail Species Coexisting References: Message-ID: <000001c2c225$a627cd40$37aaa43f@hppav> In the Rogue Valley area Mountain Quail and California Quail can often occur at the same site; although they might not be side-by-side that often. This is especially true of low elevation serpentine habitats (even down to 800 feet in elevation at one location I'm aware of along the Rogue River). Mountains occur in these lowest elevations more often in the winter months, but some into breeding season, if habitat suits them. I can hear Mountain's calling from my home in the distance foothills in breeding season, but I have never seen one at our place. At one location I have banded at for 15 years (at 2100 feet in the Coast Range), both were present early on, but now the California Quail seem to have been "extirpated." from the site. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve McDonald" To: "Obol" Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:03 AM Subject: [obol] Quail Species Coexisting > > There's a large amount of good quail habitat in the Willamette > Valley, that has few birds in it. > Something other than interspecies competition has limited the numbers of > them all. Back when Bobwhites were common, I also saw many more Valley > and Mountain Quail. Along the grassy and partially wooded areas near > the base of the Coburg Hills, I would sometimes see all three species in > the same area, as well as some Gray Partridge. Mountain Quail came down > and flew across the McKenzie River and ranged into the river bottom > jungles as far as a mile from the hills. Two years ago, along the > Weyerhaeuser Rd., south of Hwy.126, I saw and heard two Bobwhites, then > soon came upon several dozen Valley Quail. A little farther and two > Mountain Quail crossed the road. Going up the steep slope on the > eastside, I found both Ruffed and Blue Grouse, but multiple sightings > like this are rare. I still hear a Bobwhite every Spring, somewhere in > this general area, but nowhere else for the last 20 years. > Incidentally, I once had some of every species of North American quail > in my captive collection. During the Fall and Winter, I kept many of > them in a very large flight cage that had numerous small pines and > junipers growing in it. They would all roost in the trees, often birds > of several species snuggling together without discrimination. > > Steve McDonald > > From woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 22 08:44:19 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at yahoo.com (J. Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Sibley Field Guide to Western N. America? Message-ID: <20030122164419.68448.qmail@web13603.mail.yahoo.com> The following message comes from birdbooklist, a Yahoo group. Note the 6th item: Field Guide to Birds of Western North America - Sibley - 15 - April (announced release date) (Also the same title but for Eastern NA.) Any Obolonians know more about this? Jamie Corvallis woodpecker97330@yahoo.com > Date: 22 Jan 2003 12:03:14 -0000 > From: birdbooklist@yahoogroups.com > To: birdbooklist@yahoogroups.com > Web site: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/birdbooklist > From: "Gordon Hamlett" > Subject: spring titles > > The latest AC Black/Helm catalogue has just arrived and lists the > following titles (some prviously announced) > > As ever, treat the intended release dates with a large helping of > sodium chloride :-)) > > Birds of Suffolk - Piotrowski - ukp35 - March > > Complete checklist of the Birds of the World - 3rd edition - Howard > and Moore - 50 - April > > Birds of Northern India - Grimmett and Inskipp - 20 - June > > Where to Watch Birds in Britain - 2nd edition - Harrap and Redman - > 17 - May > > Field Guide to Birds of Eastern North America - Sibley - 15 - > April > > Ditto Western North America > > Tracks and Signs of Birds of Britain and Europe 2nd edition - Brown > et > al - 20 - january > > Gulls of Europe, Asia and North America - Olsen and Larsson - 45 - > February > > Pipits and Wagtails of Europe, Asia and North America - Alstrom et > al - 48 - February > > Flight Identification of European Seabirds - Blomdahl et al - 27 - > February > > History of Ornithology - Walters - 30 - March > > > Gordon > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us Wed Jan 22 08:46:33 2003 From: Contreras_a at mercury.osac.state.or.us (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Sibley Field Guide to Western N. America? Message-ID: <3514F6D1DB66D311809D009027856D08010A49B3@mercury.osac.state.or.us> Clueless. Maybe this time he'll remember to put in the Asian species we might come across in the northwest to balance the pages of exotic parrots and budgikeets. Sibley is not a field guide, it is a portable reference. I would much rather have a more complete portable reference to use with a real field guide, e.g. the geo guide. Alan L. Contreras -----Original Message----- From: J. Simmons [mailto:woodpecker97330@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:44 AM To: Obol Subject: [obol] Sibley Field Guide to Western N. America? The following message comes from birdbooklist, a Yahoo group. Note the 6th item: Field Guide to Birds of Western North America - Sibley - 15 - April (announced release date) (Also the same title but for Eastern NA.) Any Obolonians know more about this? Jamie Corvallis woodpecker97330@yahoo.com From rbayer at orednet.org Wed Jan 22 12:00:20 2003 From: rbayer at orednet.org (Range Bayer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Swallows near Newport in Lincoln Co. Message-ID: Hi, On Jan. 18, Eric Horvath and others during the Yaquina Birders & Naturalists field trip saw a TREE SWALLOW at the Hatfield Marine Science Nature Trail. On Jan. 21, Chuck Philo saw one BARN SWALLOW at the Yaquina Bay South Jetty and a second one flying north at Mooloch Beach, just north of Yaquina Head. Cheers! Range Bayer, rbayer@orednet.org, PO Box 1467, Newport, Oregon 97365 USA See http://www.orednet.org/~rbayer/lincoln/bird.htm (all lower case letters) for Lincoln Co. Bird Notes and Information. See http://www.orednet.org/~rbayer/lincoln/nature.htm (all lower case letters) for Lincoln Co. Natural History Information. From jmoodie at cocc.edu Wed Jan 22 12:13:46 2003 From: jmoodie at cocc.edu (Jim Moodie) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: barn swallow-Deschutes County Message-ID: <9018ABF0CCB2C44C963FDD221232F100274DE1@ex1.ad.cocc.edu> OBOLanders, On 18 Jan, I saw a single barn swallow at Hatfield Lake (2nd pond). According to County records on Steve Shunk's webpage, this seems to be extremely early for a swallow East of the Cascades. Anyone else observe swallows on this side of the Mountains? Cheers, Jim Moodie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030122/5e82c7ee/attachment.htm From jeffgill at teleport.com Wed Jan 22 11:24:45 2003 From: jeffgill at teleport.com (Jeff Gilligan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Bean Goose & Fellow Travelers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Steve. I think the Washington observers said that it traveled with the dark geese, not that we should ignore any Canada Goose flocks. You are clearly correct in that the bird with it in one of the photos appears to be a Western Canada. on 1/22/03 12:32 AM, Steve McDonald at bigrocketman3@webtv.net wrote: > > Regarding the recent messages about the Washington Bean Goose being > seen with either Vancouver or Dusky Canada Geese: On the photos posted > of this goose on Joe Morlan's website, it is accompanied by what is > clearly a Western Canada Goose. This C. Goose is larger and much > lighter colored than the other two subspecies. See it here, if you > missed the URL the first time it was posted: > > http://fog.ccsf.org/~jmorlan/gallery.htm > > Scroll down and click on "Bean Goose", on the left panel. > > Steve McDonald > > From winkg at hevanet.com Wed Jan 22 12:46:05 2003 From: winkg at hevanet.com (Wink Gross) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: OBOL: Pittock, NW Portland, week ending 1/22/03 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030122123720.0207dd08@pop.hevanet.com> Here is the summary of my morning dogwalks from NW Seblar Terrace to the Pittock Mansion for the week 1/16 to 1/22/03. Species in ALL CAPS were neither seen nor heard the previous week. Additional information about my dogwalk can be found at http://www.hevanet.com/winkg/dogwalkpage.html We did the walk 5 days this week. Species # days found (peak #, date) Canada Goose 3 (45, 1/22) ACCIPITER sp. 1 (1, 1/22) Red-tailed Hawk 1 (1, 1/16) Mourning Dove 2 (2, 1/17) Anna's Hummingbird 3 (2, 1/16) Red-breasted Sapsucker 2 (1, 1/17 & 18) DOWNY WOODPECKER 2 (2, 1/21) Northern Flicker 3 (3, 1/16) PILEATED WOODPECKER 1 (1, 1/21) Golden-crowned Kinglet 2 (20, 1/21) Ruby-crowned Kinglet 2 (3, 1/18) Winter Wren 4 (2, 1/17) American Robin 4 (30, 1/17) Varied Thrush 4 (9, 1/21) Bushtit 2 (15, 1/17) Black-capped Chickadee 5 (15) Chestnut-backed Chickadee 4 (15) Red-breasted Nuthatch 4 (4, 1/21) Brown Creeper 3 (2, 1/17 & 18) Steller's Jay 4 (5, 1/16) Western Scrub-Jay 1 (2, 1/17) American Crow 5 (15, 1/17 & 18) European Starling 4 (5, 1/16) Spotted Towhee 5 (5) FOX SPARROW 1 (2, 1/18) Song Sparrow 5 (15) Dark-eyed Junco 5 (20) House Finch 5 (35, 1/17) Pine Siskin 4 (45, 1/21) Misses (birds found at least 3 days during the previous 2 weeks but not found this week): Bewick's Wren Wink Gross Portland winkg@hevanet.com From dbagues at earthlink.net Wed Jan 22 13:10:07 2003 From: dbagues at earthlink.net (Diane Bagues) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Fw: Are you a Birder? Message-ID: <007801c2c25a$a41ffc40$6401a8c0@happyuser> OBOLers, Enjoy. Diane Bagues Milwaukie, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Paulson" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:06 AM Subject: Fwd: Are you a Birder? > >Subject: Are you a Birder? > > > > > >Answering "yes" to any of the following questions qualifies you as a > > true birder. > > > >>> >1. Someone yells DUCK! and you look up and shout "Where"? > > > >>> >2. You criticize television programs and commercials that depict a > >>> bald eagle but play a red-tailed hawk call. > > > >>> >3. One of your kids is named, Kestrel, Merlin, Peregrine or Phoebe. > > > >>> >4. Your spouse says, "It's either me or the birds," and you have to > >>> think about it. > > > >>> >5. You pay a neighbour's kid $20 to play dead in a field while you > >>> search the sky for vultures. > > > >>> >6. You try to talk your kid into going to college in Belize so that > >>> you have an excuse to go and bird there. > > > > >> >7. A machine at work is making a squeaking noise and you describe it > >>> to maintenance as sounding like a black-and-white warbler. > > > >>> >8. The first time you meet your future in-laws, you demonstrate the > >>> >courtship dance of the woodcock, complete with sound effects. > > > >>> >9. You spend only 15 minutes preparing dinner for your family but 30 > >>> >minutes mixing and placing seed for you birds. > > > > >> >10. You wake your spouse at 5:30 a.m. and exclaim, "Say, is > >that a nuthatch > > >> >I'm hearing outside the window?" > > > >>> >11. You identify calls of birds in the soundtracks of television > >>shows and movies. > > > >>> >12. You lose friends and perhaps even your spouse, from fighting > >>over the pronunciation of the word "pileated". > > > >>> >13. You know what birds USED to be called before the English name > >>was changed, so you use them all in, "Look, there's a common egret, > >>> American egret, great egret, or whatever they're calling it these days." > > > >>> >14. You spend most of the day on Saturday, after getting up at 4 > > >a.m., making a five-hour drive in near zero degree weather in snow and > > >sleet with wet feet and inadequate clothing while looking for an > >unusual bird, > > >and then exclaim "YES!" with a big grin on Monday morning when someone > >at work asks you if you had a good weekend. > > > > >> >15. You are the only one in the room who doesn't think "prairie > > >> chicken" and "yellow-bellied sapsucker" are funny. > > > > >> >16. The nastiest works in your vocabulary come out exclusively while > > >> birding. > > > > >> >17. In your worst nightmare, "Private - Not Trespassing" signs > > >circle around your head. > > > > >> >18. When it come to chasing after birds, you sometimes, in > >fact regularly, > > >> >walk the very thin line between courage and plain ol'stupidity. > > > > >> >19. You enjoy living, love your family and friends, have life > > >> insurance and worry about your health - but routinely attempt > >suicide every > > >time you get behind the wheel of a car because you're always > >looking for birds > >and never at the road. > > > > >> >20. You fail to convince the retarded judge that "Because that > > >> (&*^%&^% scared away my possible ivory-billed woodpecker!!!" is an > >acceptable excuse for manslaughter. > > > > >> >21. There are more miles on your factory-new, one week old car than > > >> >feathers on a flock of whistling swans. > > > > >> >22. No, you don't think all those little brown birds in the field > > >> guide look the same. > > > > >> >23. Every last gift or card you receive has a bird somewhere on it. > > > > >> >24. Getting out of bed fully energized at 4 a.m. is perfectly fine > > >for birding but for any other reason, its pure #@(&$. > > > > >> >25. You know more about optics than a lenscrafter, more about > > >driving than a trucker and more Latin than the Pope. > > ADD YOUR OWN AND FORWARD! > From tc at empnet.com Wed Jan 22 13:27:12 2003 From: tc at empnet.com (Tom Crabtree) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: barn swallow-Deschutes County References: Message-ID: <001101c2c25d$07712d80$2f05a8c0@empirenet> MessageJim, If it was a Barn Swallow, I would assume it to be an extremely LATE bird. The Average arrival date for this species in Bend is April 9, with the earliest date being March 25. I think it is far more likely to be a lingerer in mild weather than to have headed north two months early. Tom Crabtree Bend ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Moodie To: Obol Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:13 PM Subject: [obol] barn swallow-Deschutes County OBOLanders, On 18 Jan, I saw a single barn swallow at Hatfield Lake (2nd pond). According to County records on Steve Shunk's webpage, this seems to be extremely early for a swallow East of the Cascades. Anyone else observe swallows on this side of the Mountains? Cheers, Jim Moodie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030122/7bc0b70e/attachment.htm From roygerig at hotmail.com Wed Jan 22 14:27:49 2003 From: roygerig at hotmail.com (Roy Gerig) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Old Newport news Message-ID: Laurie and I spent the weekend yurting at South Beach State Park (Lincoln County). On Saturday 1/18 I saw a BARN SWALLOW over the south jetty at Newport, and a MERLIN near the puddles along the road that goes out there. Also Saturday, a RED-SHOULDERED HAWK was near the boardwalk behind the Hatfield Marine Science Center, from what I saw I took the bird to be an adult. A LINCOLN'S SPARROW was along the nature trail on Sunday 1/19. Roy Gerig, Salem OR _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From GODWIT at worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 22 14:27:31 2003 From: GODWIT at worldnet.att.net (Ruth Sullivan) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Bean Goose & Fellow Travelers References: Message-ID: <001a01c2c265$8f8ec8a0$8a85520c@S0028818846> Hello Jeff and Oboler, The reason wy we said this Bean Goose was with the Duskies Canada Geese because he always flew of with this Duskies.We saw the Goose on the 12-7-02 on the 12- 08 -002 on 12-14 with seven Duskies.Whe we photgraphed the Goose there where big group of goose and it so happen he was standing with the big Geese and not with the Duskies.I also photographed the Bean Goose on K-street where he was with the Duskies again. Ruth Sullivan Tacoma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Gilligan" To: "Obol" Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:24 AM Subject: [obol] Re: Bean Goose & Fellow Travelers > > Thanks Steve. I think the Washington observers said that it traveled with > the dark geese, not that we should ignore any Canada Goose flocks. You are > clearly correct in that the bird with it in one of the photos appears to be > a Western Canada. > > > on 1/22/03 12:32 AM, Steve McDonald at bigrocketman3@webtv.net wrote: > > > > > Regarding the recent messages about the Washington Bean Goose being > > seen with either Vancouver or Dusky Canada Geese: On the photos posted > > of this goose on Joe Morlan's website, it is accompanied by what is > > clearly a Western Canada Goose. This C. Goose is larger and much > > lighter colored than the other two subspecies. See it here, if you > > missed the URL the first time it was posted: > > > > http://fog.ccsf.org/~jmorlan/gallery.htm > > > > Scroll down and click on "Bean Goose", on the left panel. > > > > Steve McDonald > > > > > > > From dhelzer at audubonportland.org Wed Jan 22 14:26:17 2003 From: dhelzer at audubonportland.org (Dave Helzer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Sibley Field Guide to Western N. America? Message-ID: OBOL, When David Sibley was here in Portland last Fall signing books and leading a birding trip, I talked with him about his new Western Guide. What I recall is that it will be a smaller format book, similar in size to NatGeo. All the art will be the same, but the layout will be different. My memory is a little hazy, but it sounded like the format would be 2 species per page, split horizontally with one on top and one below. For species with many plumages to illustrate (Red-tailed) there will be one page per species. I think he also said there will not be as many plumages shown per species as in his NA field guide. For example most species of passerines will not have a juv. plumage. A goal of his with the new format was to keep the illustrations as large as possible and therefore had to cut down the number of plumages to save space. I do not think there will expanded coverage of rarities (i.e. Asian vagrants). He said the scheduled release is May 2003. Dave Helzer, Adult Programs Coordinator Audubon Society of Portland 5151 NW Cornell Rd, Portland, OR 97210
503.292.6855 ext 119 971.222.6119 503.292.1021 www.audubonportland.org dhelzer@audubonportland.org ======================================================= Subject: Sibley Field Guide to Western N. America? From: "J. Simmons" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:44:19 -0800 (PST) The following message comes from birdbooklist, a Yahoo group. Note the 6th item: Field Guide to Birds of Western North America - Sibley - 15 - April (announced release date) (Also the same title but for Eastern NA.) Any Obolonians know more about this? Jamie Corvallis woodpecker97330 AT yahoo.com From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Wed Jan 22 14:56:23 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Jo Co news Message-ID: <001401c2c269$7e543e40$60a1a43f@hppav> Today (01-22-03) on Lower River Road west of Grants Pass there was at least 1 GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE in a large mixed Canada flock. There were several "CACKLING" Geese; one had a Yellow Collar with large "U" and what appeared to be a smaller-sized "T 9" on it. A quick note to the BBL indicated it was a likely a Cackler from Alaska. Really wet, will see if I can get a better look sometime. Think we underestimate the value of Earthworms as a food source for birds. There were 26 GREATER EGRETS on Lower River Road; several of which were sucking down on Earthworms (14 GREAT BLUES thrown in too, also selecting Earthworms). The PACIFIC LOON is still at Roguelea Ponds. Dennis (north of Grants Pass) From greg.gillson at exgate.tek.com Wed Jan 22 15:03:31 2003 From: greg.gillson at exgate.tek.com (greg.gillson@exgate.tek.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: swallows late? or early? Message-ID: <7EDB294F3EE1744BA2AB357D5C39579802A9AB20@us-bv-m05> A check of the Western bird e-mail lists found BARN SWALLOWS from Monterey to British Columbia in the last couple of weeks. No reports from southern California or Arizona (except one report on the Blythe CBC on the lower Colorado River around New Year's Day). This suggests to me that these birds may be wintering (April 1st is about the time to expect the first Barn Swallows in the Willamette Valley). At the very least, they don't SEEM to be migrating, or I would expect more reports from farther south. VIOLET-GREEN SWALLOWS are being reported from SE California and Arizona. They are evidently starting to move north. Reports of TREE SWALLOWS are widespread on the West Coast, but in low numbers. A birder from San Diego reported an unidentified "pale-rumped" swallow last week on the San Diego list and asked 'early migrant or lingerer?'. I guess we're not alone. Greg Gillson greg@thebirdguide.com From clarys at ohsu.edu Wed Jan 22 16:25:27 2003 From: clarys at ohsu.edu (Susan Clary) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: West Nile Virus in Jan 4, 2003' Message-ID: I read the West Nile Virus message and am concerned about its accuracy. To date there is nothing in the literature about WNV being transmitted directly from bird to bird. There were numerous mistakes. I guess the message is don't believe everything you read. From shroyers at worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 22 16:29:54 2003 From: shroyers at worldnet.att.net (Shroyer, Loris Joline) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Speaking of Birds . . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Speaking of birds, Linda, your OBOL posting of the 21st is a HOOT! Now I know you're not fast enough to be bi-county! Joline From edgert1 at attbi.com Wed Jan 22 17:09:57 2003 From: edgert1 at attbi.com (Ed McVicker and Gert Bernstein) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Mult. Co. Eurasian Widgeon Message-ID: <00b301c2c27c$25b753e0$3525e00c@attbi.com> One EURASIAN WIDGEON was among the other waterfowl at the East Moreland Park ponds in SE Portland this afternoon. Ed McVicker Portland From jgeier at attglobal.net Wed Jan 22 18:38:29 2003 From: jgeier at attglobal.net (Joel Geier) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Barn Swallows: late or early? Message-ID: <3E2F55A5.66B11006@attglobal.net> Hello birders, If you look at Barn Swallows in California & Oregon CBCs with results posted so far, you can see that during mid- December to early January there were quite a few Barn Swallows all the way from here to Southern California, especially from the SF Bay Area down to Santa Barbara. I have ordered the following tallies from north to south: Airlie, OR 1 Eugene, OR 3 Santa Rosa, CA 1 Marin County (southern), CA 1 Claremont, CA cw San Francisco, CA 3 San Jose, CA 1 Red Rock Canyon, CA 2 Santa Maria-Guadalupe, CA 9 La Purisima, CA 11 Santa Barbara, CA 3 Ventura, CA 3 Mojave River Valley, CA 3 San Fernando Valley, CA 2 Long Beach-El Dorado, CA 2 Lake Henshaw, CA 2 Salton Sea (south), CA 33 Note that not all CBC compilers have filed yet, so these are only some (probably most) of the swallows that were found in CBCs. I did not look at Washington data. Only the Salton Sea concentration would be "usual." To me this suggests a sparse population wintering north of the accepted range, which are available for these "early" northward movements later in the winter. Some of them may have never left. Cheers, Joel -- Joel Geier jgeier@attglobal.net From jmeredit at bendnet.com Wed Jan 22 18:31:07 2003 From: jmeredit at bendnet.com (Judy Meredith) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Barn Swallows: late or early? References: Message-ID: <006501c2c287$7c9af9e0$0a26a3ce@joem> And our team had about 20 on the Florence, Or. CBC - Jan 3 or whatever. And we saw one in Washington state when there dipping on the Bean Goose on Dec 14. Judy Meredith jmeredit@bendnet,com > Hello birders, > > If you look at Barn Swallows in California & Oregon CBCs > with results posted so far, you can see that during mid- > December to early January there were quite a few Barn > Swallows all the way from here to Southern California, > especially from the SF Bay Area down to Santa Barbara. > > Joel Geier > jgeier@attglobal.net From dbird at teleport.com Wed Jan 22 20:55:37 2003 From: dbird at teleport.com (Donna Lusthoff) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: A little more quail stuff Message-ID: <008401c2c29b$e6098c20$cf4ffea9@DonnaLustoff> When I moved to a small acreage near Beaverton in 1964, there were Bobwhite Quail on my property. I even found a used nest at one time. Linda Wieland also lived in an area NW of Beaverton and grew up seeing/hearing Bobwhite. I didn't have any California Quail in the area. This last fall, I observed near Portal, AZ and in Rodeo, NM small numbers of Gambel's and Scaled Quail traveling together and at feeders. But apparently these last 2 are friendlier toward each other, than the Bobwhite & Cal. Quail. In the N. Geo guide I just opened, there is shown a Scaled-Gambel's hybrid. Donna Lusthoff, Beaverton, OR dbird@teleport.com From ndbarret at medford.net Wed Jan 22 20:52:20 2003 From: ndbarret at medford.net (ndbarret) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Reported possible Trumpeter Swans References: Message-ID: <002b01c2c29b$ef239080$6b8c0945@default> Yesterday (Wed) Howard Sands and I had a chance to check the possible Trumpeter swans reported by Dennis. Luckily I did not have to battle the fog and had excellent sunlight at my back. With that light we were able to see the small yellow spots in front of the eyes on all the adult birds. The beaks looked appropriate for Tundra's. Sorry Dennis. Would have been a great find for the county. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis P. Vroman" To: "Obol" Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: [obol] Reported possible Trumpeter Swans > Reported from Table Rock Road (01-19-03) in Jackson Co. > > "About halfway between the two 15 mph corners [on Table Rock Road], there > were 15 Swans in a field on the right side of the road. Even though it was > foggy, I got pretty good looks, and I'm reasonably certain (say 95%) that > they were Trumpeters. Bills all black, lores looked wider than a Tundra > Swan, no yellow basal spots that I could see on any of the birds." > > For anyone interested to take a look at. > > Dennis (north of Grants Pass) > > > > From ndbarret at medford.net Wed Jan 22 21:01:56 2003 From: ndbarret at medford.net (ndbarret) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Quail querie References: Message-ID: <003d01c2c29c$8e795c00$6b8c0945@default> On my parents property in Jackson County we had both Mountain and California quail using the same habitat areas/overlapping territories, but I never saw they together or interacting. I don't know that they were actively avoiding each other or if I just never happened to stumble over their battlefields while the cannons were roaring. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry McQueen" To: "Obol" Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [obol] Quail querie > Obolites > > I had one response on the Bobwhite question, and with Tom's permission, I > post it below. I now expand the question: does anyone have examples of > interaction (or tolerance) between any two species of quail in the wild? > Has anyone even seen two non-introduced species of quail together? -- Larry > McQueen > > >I noticed your OBOL posting on January 15 which addressed the question of > the Bobwhite and its failure to thrive here. You had asked if anyone had > tales of interaction between the Bobwhite and California Quail. > > Several years ago, friends of ours on the NW edge of Corvallis had a lone > Bobwhite hanging about their yard and feeders for a period of 3-5 months. > More often than not, the Bobwhite would be driven off the feeding area > beneath the feeders by local California Quail. I don't believe they were > ever seen to peacefully coexist and feed, the Bobwhite invariably the loser > in the turf battles if the other Quail were in the vicinity. > > Tom Griffith > Corvallis > > (Of course the example of one does not make a pattern, but the single > Bobwhite was not ignored - LM) > > > > > > From ndbarret at medford.net Wed Jan 22 21:09:09 2003 From: ndbarret at medford.net (ndbarret) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: dippers References: Message-ID: <006701c2c29d$9063aa60$6b8c0945@default> There are dippers there year round. I don't believe our local birds are migratory, except for the higher elevation ones moving down as the streams freeze over. The birds that hang out under the Highway 62 bridge there were carrying nesting material in Feb. last year, but this does seem early for breeding behavior. Don't know enough to say if what you saw was displaying or just territorial bickering. ----- Original Message ----- From: Clint Brumitt To: Obol Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: [obol] dippers Obol, This weekend, I was along the upper Rogue River near the fish hatchery, just downstream from Lost Creek Dam. I noticed two dippers flying and jousting as only birds can do. A lot of playful activity. One bird finally landed on a wooden walkway a did the dipper "dip". That motion you see as the bird moves along the stream, many times just after they have surfaced from feeding under water. This bird stood in one spot for at least 4 to 6 minutes displaying the "dip". Questions: Is it normal to see dippers in January anywhere in Oregon? Was I observing some form of pre-breeding behavior? If so, is this early for the beginning of breeding season? Clint Brumitt cbrumitt@jeffnet.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My previous experience with the species was of little help, as it was of summer adult males in Michigan over thirty years ago. Anyway, this bird was slightly smaller than the comparable house finches, with a much larger, huskier bill, and a longer-legged, more upright stance when it was on the ground. During the time I observed it, it alternated between feeding in a ground feeder and hopping about in a bush about five feet away from the feeder. Each time it came back out of the bush, it would hop rapidly towards the feeder, and it was during this time that it showed the aforementioned posture. The forehead, crown, sides of head, back, and wings (largely) were bright cinnamon brown. The primaries on the folded wing, and the tertials were strikingly patterned, having dark inner webs and bright cinnamon edges. There was but the faintest hint of a lower wing bar, which was invisible on all but during one brief sighting. The throat was clearly white, nearly bright white, set off below by a darker breast, and on each side by a brown sub-malar stripe, darker and less cinnamon in color than the upperparts. The breast was a shade grayer than the upperparts, and was, I thought, rather heavily streaked with brown, nearly as strongly as shown in the Geographic guide. Although the breast streaking was heavy, the streaks themselves were rather fine. The belly was white. I did not see the undertail coverts. The tail appeared to be deep bluish only on the inner webs, and this mark was most visible when the bird would spread its tail. The unspread tail looked mostly dark brown. There was a small patch of indigo along the front edge of the bend of the wing, extending slightly up on to the back. This field mark is not shown in the Sibley, Geographic, Peterson, or Golden guides, but it does appear in a photograph of a female Indigo Bunting in the Audubon guide. John and I watched the bird for likely about ten minutes before it departed. Today it came to the feeder about once every hour and a half throughout the course of the day, although on the previous day it was seen only in the morning. It is rather skittish, so anyone who attempts to see it needs to be prepared to wait for a while. Now a question. I know there have been quite a number of sightings of this species in Oregon, but have any of the others been in the winter? What an odd fall and winter collection of birds it is that have turned up in our state since August! Darrel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This afternoon from 4:50 to 5:10 Mahesh Ketkar & I enjoyed stunning views of a male COMMON YELLOWTHROAT @ less than 12m from the North viewing stand. A female also put in a very brief appearance. I have been seeing them quite regularly since 12/24/02. My best luck has been in the a.m.'s however between 9:30 & 11:00. Vigorous pishing whenever any lbj's are near usually brings up the yellowthroats & they're usually accompanied by one or more of Song Sparrow, Bewick's Wren, Ruby Crowned Kinglet, Black-Capped Chickadees, sometimes Lincoln's Sparrow, Fox Sparrow, & Spotted Towhee. My puzzle is did these COYE overwinter or did they arrive w-a-a-y early over a month ago? If they overwintered why didn't I see them in Oct & Nov? Well actually I did see 1 COYE in early Oct but didn't put much effort into this location as Hawkwatch was in progress. My Nov efforts were otherwise distracted as well now that I think about it. Cheers! Dennis E. Manzer Beaverton, OR manzed_99@myway.com _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com From hnehls at teleport.com Wed Jan 22 23:42:09 2003 From: hnehls at teleport.com (Harry Nehls) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: RBA: Portland, OR 1-23-03 Message-ID: - RBA * Oregon * Portland * January 23, 2003 * ORPO0301.23 - birds mentioned Pacific Loon Common Loon Brown Pelican Turkey Vulture Harlequin Duck Prairie Falcon Pacific Golden-Plover Lesser Yellowlegs RUFF Snowy Owl VERMILION FLYCATCHER Tree Swallow Violet-green Swallow Barn Swallow Northern Mockingbird Palm Warbler MCCOWN'S LONGSPUR Lapland Longspur INDIGO BUNTING BALTIMORE ORIOLE White-winged Crossbill - transcript hotline: Portland Oregon Audubon RBA (weekly) number: 503-292-6855 to report: Harry Nehls 503-233-3976 compiler: Harry Nehls coverage: entire state Hello, this is the Audubon Society of Portland Rare Bird Report. This report was made Thursday January 23. If you have anything to add call Harry Nehls at 503-233-3976. The North Portland MCCOWN'S LONGSPUR continues to be seen. During the week two LAPLAND LONGSPURS joined the flock. From I5 go west on Marine Drive. After a few miles the road turns south. About a mile from the curve turn left onto the short roadway, park and walk into the open fields. The wintering RUFF, LESSER YELLOWLEGS, and PALM WARBLER are still being seen at Steward Pond in west Eugene. The Florence BALTIMORE ORIOLE is also being reported. On January 21 a female INDIGO BUNTING began utilizing a feeder near Newport. The VERMILION FLYCATCHER continues to be seen about the small ponds along Hazelnut Road in Woodburn. Take the Woodburn exit off I5 and drive east. After a mile turn left onto Boones Ferry Road, then right on Tukwila Drive. Turn right again onto Hazelnut. A number of BARN SWALLOWS are now being reported including one from Hatfield Lake near Bend January 18. A few TREE and VIOLET-GREEN SWALLOWS are also being seen. A TURKEY VULTURE was at Smith Rocks State Park January 19. A LESSER YELLOWLEGS was at Coos Bay January 16. A late BROWN PELICAN was at Yaquina Bay January 20, and a WHITE-WINGED CROSSBILL was at the South Jetty of the Columbia River January 16. The PRAIRIE FALCON along Oak Island Road on Sauvie Island was seen again January 17. A PACIFIC LOON and four COMMON LOONS were on the Columbia River near the Portland airport January 19. A SNOWY OWL was reported January 19 from mid-town Portland but it could not be relocated. One was seen January 9 near Hood River. The PACIFIC GOLDEN-PLOVER is still being seen near Tangent. A PACIFIC LOON was west of Grants Pass January 17. A female HARLEQUIN DUCK was with a goldeneye flock at the mouth of the Deschutes River January 18. The Bend MOCKINGBIRD is still being seen. Thats it for this week. - end transcript From Irons5 at aol.com Wed Jan 22 23:47:41 2003 From: Irons5 at aol.com (Irons5@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Common Yellowthroat @ Jackson Bottom Wetlands 01/22/03 Message-ID: <131.1968af3e.2b60f81d@aol.com> Given that Common Yellowthroats don't show up until the last couple weeks of March, it is highly likely that these birds are wintering and not early migrants. Among the warblers (excluding those that regularly winter like Yellow-rumped and Townsend's), Common Yellowthroats are the last to migrate. It fairly typical to find quite a few still around into the back half of October after all the other "summering" species are long gone. Common Yellowthroats are found somewhere in W. Oregon virtually every winter. They have wintered at Fern Ridge Reservoir near Eugene a number of times. In my experience, they seem to migrate in family groups, often with an adult pair and multiple immatures (birds of the year) together. Just for fun I pulled up the CBC data online for the past 20 CBC seasons. Common Yellowthroat was found during 13 of 20 years with the maximum of 3 birds found 5 different years. This of course doesn't take into account birds found outside count circles and periods. Dave Irons irons5@aol.com Eugene, OR From cbrumitt at jeffnet.org Thu Jan 23 05:44:40 2003 From: cbrumitt at jeffnet.org (Clint Brumitt) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: dipper response Message-ID: <002201c2c2e5$94c7b310$0f380143@hewlett5k1589j> I would like to take a moment and thank all of you who took the time to increase my knowledge about the Dipper. It is one of the great things about OBOL when others can help and make the rest of us smarter when we share what we know. Thank you. Clint Brumitt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030123/51fc0a59/attachment.htm From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Thu Jan 23 06:25:28 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Reported possible Trumpeter Swans References: <002b01c2c29b$ef239080$6b8c0945@default> Message-ID: <001c01c2c2eb$4b203420$51a4a43f@hppav> Now we know for sure; Tundra are what would be expected...and so they were. Will pass this on to the person reporting them to me. Thanks Howard and Norm, Dennis > Yesterday (Wed) Howard Sands and I had a chance to check the possible > Trumpeter swans reported by Dennis. Luckily I did not have to battle the > fog and had excellent sunlight at my back. With that light we were able to > see the small yellow spots in front of the eyes on all the adult birds. The > beaks looked appropriate for Tundra's. Sorry Dennis. Would have been a > great find for the county. From contopus at shaw.ca Thu Jan 23 08:54:20 2003 From: contopus at shaw.ca (Wayne C. Weber) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: swallows late? or early? References: Message-ID: <009601c2c300$138fc240$65fb4318@ok.shawcable.net> Oregon Birders, We went through a very similar discussion last winter about January and February sightings of BARN SWALLOWS. (Please see my messages of Jan. 19/02 and Jan 23/02, among others, in the OBOL archives.) My contention is that most of these birds were neither late departures nor early arrivals, in the context of normal migration patterns. Rather, they seem to be part of a mid-winter northward push which appears to be partly weather-related and partly a result of active movement by the birds. There were widespread reports of BARN SWALLOWS, sometimes accompanied by a few TREE or VIOLET-GREEN SWALLOWS, throughout western Oregon, western Washington, and southwestern B.C. (lower Fraser Valley), starting about January 10 to 12, 2003. (One CLIFF SWALLOW was also seen on January 12 in Langley, B.C.) There were enough reports that I suspect that hundreds of swallows may have been involved in total. Most of these (except for Florence, OR) were in areas where few or none had been seen in December or early January. If the patterns established in past winters are followed, most of these will disappear by late February or March, and few Barn Swallows will be seen until the normal arrival dates in early April. The discussion above applies mainly to BARN SWALLOWS. Tree Swallows and Violet-greens have different migration patterns, and normally arrive in most of the Northwest in the latter half of February and March. This mid-winter invasion of Barn Swallows has been evident, to one degree or another, in every one of the last 5 winters. The causes are still a mystery-- possibly some combination of weather patterns and abnormal movement by the birds? However, because Barn Swallows are rare even in southern California in winter, I suspect that some of these birds came all the way from Mexico. Keep on reporting those mid-winter swallows! Wayne C. Weber Kamloops and Delta, BC contopus@shaw.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Obol Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:03 PM Subject: [obol] swallows late? or early? > A check of the Western bird e-mail lists found BARN SWALLOWS from Monterey > to British Columbia in the last couple of weeks. No reports from southern > California or Arizona (except one report on the Blythe CBC on the lower > Colorado River around New Year's Day). This suggests to me that these birds > may be wintering (April 1st is about the time to expect the first Barn > Swallows in the Willamette Valley). At the very least, they don't SEEM to be > migrating, or I would expect more reports from farther south. > > VIOLET-GREEN SWALLOWS are being reported from SE California and Arizona. > They are evidently starting to move north. > > Reports of TREE SWALLOWS are widespread on the West Coast, but in low > numbers. > > A birder from San Diego reported an unidentified "pale-rumped" swallow last > week on the San Diego list and asked 'early migrant or lingerer?'. I guess > we're not alone. > > Greg Gillson > greg@thebirdguide.com > > From birdsong at harborside.com Thu Jan 23 09:28:40 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: [Fwd: [NEOORN-L] And the answer is: ALL OF THE ABOVE] Message-ID: <3E302648.2060902@harborside.com> Folks, Thought some might be interested in this bit of news. Dave Lauten Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [NEOORN-L] And the answer is: ALL OF THE ABOVE Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 07:54:28 -0500 From: Ellen Paul Reply-To: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds To: NEOORN-L@LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Today's ornithology exam question: Did flight in birds evolve (a) when ground-dwellers ran, flapped, and lifted off? (b) when tree-dwellers jumped, glided, and then flapped? (c) when ground dwellers ran up into trees, flapping to help gain traction? See the article from today's Washington Post, below. I've pasted in text only because some listservs won't accept html, but those who want to see the diagram can go to the Post article at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30096-2003Jan22.html The article summarizes the report in Nature of a discovery of a feathered, four-winged gliding dinosaur and Ken Dial's Science article about the use of wings to gain traction by birds as they run up inclines. -- Ellen Paul Executive Director The Ornithological Council Mailto:epaul@concentric.net Ornithological Council Website: http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET "Providing Scientific Information about Birds" New Species of Flying Dinosaur Found Predator Lived in Trees, Likely Used Plumage to Glide By Guy Gugliotta Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, January 23, 2003; Page A03 Scientists have discovered a new species of flying dinosaur unlike any seen before, a spectacular four-winged predator that lived in trees and probably used its elaborate plumage to glide from branch to branch, research published yesterday said. The find, in northeastern China's fossil-rich Liaoning Province, significantly boosts the "top-down" theory of the origin of flight: that birds evolved from tree-dwelling dinosaurs that glided through treetops before flapping their wings. "This time the evidence is overwhelming," said paleontologist Xing Xu, of China's Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology. "It's hard even to imagine how these little animals could have moved around bipedally" -- on their hind legs. Xu led the six-member Chinese team whose findings were reported yesterday in the journal Nature. The team recovered six specimens of the small predatory raptor that showed nearly complete skeletons as well as the sharply etched outlines of elaborate feathers on the forelimbs, hind limbs and tail. Xu's team called it a four-winged dinosaur -- the first ever found. University of Kansas evolutionary ornithologist Richard Prum, whose analysis accompanied the research report, called the Liaoning research "the most exciting find on the question of the origin of flight" in the 140 years since the discovery of Archaeopteryx, the 150-million-year-old fossil regarded as the world's first true bird. But other scientists were reluctant to give the new, four-winged flyer such exalted status. "It's important, certainly," said Brown University vertebrate morphologist Stephen Gatesy. "The first reflex is to say that this is a stage on the way to birds, but for all we know, this could be a quirky side branch." Regardless of the new dinosaur's ultimate destination in the evolutionary tree, yesterday's report was the second major paper this month on the origin of flight to shake up the century-old debate between the top-down school and the "bottom-up" school, which holds that flight developed among small, land-dwelling dinosaurs that learned to run and flap their winged forelimbs until they achieved liftoff. Last week University of Montana biologist Kenneth P. Dial proposed an intermediate stage, reporting in the journal Science how seemingly awkward, heavy-legged modern birds -- such as chickens or turkeys -- use their wings as airfoils to gain traction as they run up steep inclines. Dial suggested that small, feathered dinosaurs may have used the same technique to get up into trees. The two papers "help show that the dichotomy between top-down and bottom-up is false," said Ohio University evolutionary biologist Lawrence Witmer. "These finds from China demonstrate that there are a lot of tiny predatory dinosaurs" that likely had reason to want to get off the ground. Although the majority appear to have been primarily ground-dwellers, he added, "I don't see how you keep them out of the trees." The newly discovered animal measures about 30 inches from its head to the tip of its long tail, but the body is about the size of a large pigeon. It is a predatory carnivore belonging to the same dinosaur group as Tyrannosaurus rex and the smaller raptors. Xu's team dubbed the new discovery Microraptor gui. The Xu team unearthed the specimens in the Liaoning fossil fields, where an entire ecosystem appears to have been suddenly buried, perhaps by volcanic ash, 130 million years ago. Over the past few years, Liaoning has produced unprecedented discoveries of fossils of small therapods that clearly show the outlines of feathers. These animals, fast runners with "killer claws" on the second digit of their hind limbs, were basically two-legged land-dwellers. Bottom-up advocates theorize that these animals' weak forelimbs eventually developed into wings as they made the evolutionary transition to birds. M. gui also has "killer claws," but its hind limbs contrast sharply with those of most other small raptors, because -- like the forelimbs -- they are thickly carpeted with functional feathers. Xu's team suggested the plumage made it impossible for M. gui to be nimble on the ground. Instead, the team theorized that it lived aloft, gliding among branches like a tree squirrel. Witmer noted that even though M. gui is not as old as Archaeopteryx, it could be a descendant of a shared ancestor. "It has many of us scratching our heads," Witmer added. Although the new discovery is the first documented flying -- or gliding -- raptor, the feathered hind limbs almost certainly didn't "flap," and there is no conclusive evidence on whether M. gui could splay its hind limbs in a wing-like pose. The hind limbs' heavy feathers may have been for "display purposes" rather than flight, he added: "Animals will endure all kinds of deficits in their lives if it gives them more and better mates," Witmer said. Brown's Gatesy said, "What's so, so wonderful is that it's clear that this is what it looked like. Now we have to figure out what it did. I don't know what's going on with the rear end. We need somebody who knows hips." From calliope at theriver.com Thu Jan 23 10:04:38 2003 From: calliope at theriver.com (Rich Hoyer) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Barn Swallows: late or early? Message-ID: Hi Obolinks, My guess is that these Barn Swallows are an early-arriving vanguard and are different than the late migrants or the ones that are attempting to overwinter. Are they not being reported in areas where birders have been already this winter and not seen them? Despite lots and lots of birders being in the field here in SE Arizona, there were only two brief reports from November - mid December, then in the third week of December there was a sudden flurry of reports from places that had been birded already?then they disappeared just as suddenly. To me, this suggests that all of the normal fall migrants completely left and that these birds were on the move and were part of a different phenomenon. There have been no reports so far this month here, but the Oregon birds are probably moving up west of the mountains where it is much milder. Someday there'll be cheap, light satellite transmitters we can fit onto a swallow. Only then will we know for sure what's going on! Good Birding, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Field Leader for WINGS, Inc. http://www.wingsbirds.com --- From 3sisters at outlawnet.com Thu Jan 23 11:18:45 2003 From: 3sisters at outlawnet.com (Stephen Shunk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Sisters-Bend Birds Message-ID: Greetings birders, Yesterday I birded in the Sisters and Bend areas with Antonya and Kevin Pickard. Despite the showery weather, birding was quite good. It was interesting though that we seemed to hit spots with either lots of birds or very few; no middle ground. Highlights of the day were as follows: BLACK-BACKED WOODPECKER - fem. drumming at a cavity in the Cache Mtn burn PINYON JAY - trail behind Sisters High School RED CROSSBILL - flock of 75+ in downtown Sisters BALD EAGLE - 3 adults, including 2 at Tumalo SP ROUGH-LEGGED HAWK - at least 5 in Cloverdale (we wimped out on meticulous scoping in the rain) PRAIRIE FALCON - Cloverdale NORTHERN SHRIKE - Hatfield (Bend sewage ponds), S side of back pond EURASIAN WIGEON - male in center pond with probable female EVENING GROSBEAK - lots around Hatfield with SOLITAIRES and ROBINS COMMON SNIPE - pair along Squaw Ck near Camp Polk (missed on Xmas Count) NORTHERN PYGMY-OWL - W side of Squaw Ck. on priv. prop. S of Camp Polk **BARROW'S GOLDENEYES - These deserve special mention considering the current OBOL discussion on migrant vs. wintering swallows. We found 2 pairs of BAGO together on an irrigation pond in Cloverdale, with one female "head-tossing" at the other (not with her head bent all the way to the back like courting males, but with a stiffer neck and shallower motions). These birds are considerably early returning to the area, especially as pairs, as most ponds are frozen (or dry) all winter. My guess is that we have birds staging early for the trip to breeding grounds on the higher lakes. We looked at least a half-dozen "reliable" places for Red-breasted Sapsucker, to no avail. We also looked hard for Snow Buntings at Hatfield without luck. I want winter back! Steve Shunk -- Stephen Shunk Community Solutions Sisters, OR 541-549-8826 (home) 541-408-1753 (cell) 541-549-8937 (fax) GET INVOLVED WITH THE OREGON CASCADES BIRDING TRAIL! http://www.oregonbirdingtrails.org/ "Creative Solutions for Small Businesses and Rural Communities" From celata at pacifier.com Thu Jan 23 11:41:31 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Four-winged dinosuar from China Message-ID: <3E304562.CB919E95@pacifier.com> Those interested in this find can read the full account in _Nature_ including high resolution photos of the specimen. http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v421/n6921/full/nature01342_fs.html You may have to reassemble the link if you mail reader breaks lines over 70 characters long. -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From lawde13 at cableone.net Thu Jan 23 12:05:20 2003 From: lawde13 at cableone.net (lawde13@cableone.net) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Sisters-Bend Birds Message-ID: <2eaa01c2c31a$c1e76a90$2c00740a@cableone.net> Wow!! What a find!! I would have thought the more expected species would be Wilson's Snipe. -----Original Message----- From: "Stephen Shunk" <3sisters@outlawnet.com> Sent: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:18:45 -0800 To: "Obol" Subject: [obol] Sisters-Bend Birds Greetings birders, Yesterday I birded in the Sisters and Bend areas with Antonya and Kevin Pickard. Despite the showery weather, birding was quite good. It was interesting though that we seemed to hit spots with either lots of birds or very few; no middle ground. Highlights of the day were as follows: COMMON SNIPE - pair along Squaw Ck near Camp Polk (missed on Xmas Count) I want winter back! Steve Shunk -- Stephen Shunk Community Solutions Sisters, OR 541-549-8826 (home) 541-408-1753 (cell) 541-549-8937 (fax) GET INVOLVED WITH THE OREGON CASCADES BIRDING TRAIL! http://www.oregonbirdingtrails.org/ "Creative Solutions for Small Businesses and Rural Communities" From kmmamjeh at cdsnet.net Thu Jan 23 13:02:40 2003 From: kmmamjeh at cdsnet.net (Jim Harleman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Morning walk up Lower Table Rock, Jackson County Message-ID: <002901c2c322$c5fa1300$3aa7a43f@oemcomputer> Obolers, Nothing particulary exciting but not bad on a foggy morning in January: Mourning Dove Acorn Woodpecker American Robin California Towhee Western Bluebird Yellow-rumped Warbler Canada Goose Hermit Thrush Dark-eyed Junco Black-capped Chickadee Western Scrub Jay Spotted Towhee Bewicks Wren Pileated Woodpecker Anna's Hummingbird Red-shafted Flicker Euopean Starling Western Meadowlark Say's Pheobe American Crow American Kestrel Also, had excellent looks at the swans located by Dennis Vroman. They were less than 100 feet from the road and were definitely Tundra. Eight GREAT BLUE HERONS on the roost at Touvelle Park. A BALD EAGLE and PEREGRINE FALCON at Kirtland Road Ponds. Jim Harleman kmmamjeh@cdsnet.net From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Thu Jan 23 13:46:47 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:43 2004 Subject: Morning walk up Lower Table Rock, Jackson County References: Message-ID: <000701c2c328$f048b480$7da4a43f@hppav> Jim, I didn't see them, they were reported to me as "possible" Trumpeters...decided to past the report on...just in case they were not the expected Tundras. > Also, had excellent looks at the swans located by Dennis Vroman. They were > less than 100 feet from the road and were definitely Tundra. > > Jim Harleman > kmmamjeh@cdsnet.net From 3sisters at outlawnet.com Thu Jan 23 14:06:58 2003 From: 3sisters at outlawnet.com (Stephen Shunk) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Swallows Message-ID: Swallowphiles, I have only 2 cents to add to the swallow discussion. I just returned from 10 days in Central California, where I saw 4 species of swallows (Barn, Cliff, Tree and VG). Barns were seen in numerous locations, as were VGs, but the Cliffs and Trees were mostly in the San Joaquin Valley. I do this trip every year and lived/birder in the region for 10 years before coming to Oregon 5.5 yrs ago. VGs are there every year, but all seeing 4 species this early is somewhat unusual. I like Wayne's explanation below. Steve -- Stephen Shunk Paradise Birding Sisters, OR 541-549-8826 (home) 541-408-1753 (cell) 541-549-8937 (fax) www.paradisebirding.com GET INVOLVED WITH THE OREGON CASCADES BIRDING TRAIL! http://www.oregonbirdingtrails.org/ "Exploring Nature in Your Backyard ... and Beyond" > From: "Wayne C. Weber" > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:54:20 -0800 > To: "Obol" > Subject: [obol] Re: swallows late? or early? > > Oregon Birders, > > We went through a very similar discussion last winter about January > and February sightings of BARN SWALLOWS. (Please see my messages of > Jan. 19/02 and Jan 23/02, among others, in the OBOL archives.) My > contention is that most of these birds were neither late departures > nor early arrivals, in the context of normal migration patterns. > Rather, they seem to be part of a mid-winter northward push which > appears to be partly weather-related and partly a result of active > movement by the birds. From BStitesPDX at aol.com Thu Jan 23 16:33:06 2003 From: BStitesPDX at aol.com (BStitesPDX@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: SHORT-EARED OWLS (Mult.County) Message-ID: <12b.20f172fe.2b61e3c2@aol.com> OBOL: This afternoon, while walking along the Columbia river east of the Sea Scout Base, I flushed 3 SHORT-EARED OWLS . They seemed to be roosting in the rocks used for the dike. There were also several Am. Pipits, 5 Common Loons, 2 Red-Throated Loons and 500+ assorted gulls following the smelt run up the Columbia river. Regards, Bob Stites- Portland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave Lawrence lawde13@cableone.net Caldwell, ID 83607 From crmiller at bendnet.com Thu Jan 23 19:23:33 2003 From: crmiller at bendnet.com (Craig Miller) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Vancouver Geese Message-ID: <018301c2c357$fdec7b60$a625a3ce@craigmil> Do the Vancouver subspecies come to Oregon? If yes, where? This would be a new Oregon C. Goose subspecies for me. Marilyn Miller From tc at empnet.com Thu Jan 23 19:48:17 2003 From: tc at empnet.com (Tom Crabtree) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Vancouver Geese References: Message-ID: <000601c2c35b$6e412ac0$79abe4d8@bendcable.com> I think Merenda's serves them with a nice fois gras. From acontrer at mindspring.com Thu Jan 23 21:48:40 2003 From: acontrer at mindspring.com (Alan Contreras) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Ruffs Message-ID: Luke Bloch called tonight and made a belated report that he saw 2 Ruffs together with a flock of yellowlegs at Stewart Pond in W. Eugene on Jan 16. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon From bcraig at attbi.com Thu Jan 23 22:20:36 2003 From: bcraig at attbi.com (bcraig) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Frenhill Wetlands -- Pintails and No. Shovelers Message-ID: My wife and I toured Fernhill Wetlands, Forest Grove, Thurs 23rd 12-4pm. Notable were the number of NORTHERN PINTAIL and NORTHERN SHOVELER present. We estimated 500-600 Pintail in the pond on the west side of the road across from the main pond, and about 300 Shovelers in the main pond. Also seen were RUDDY DUCK, 8-10; GREEN-WINGED TEAL, ~20; MALLARD ~50; BUFFLEHEAD, ~20; RING-NECKED DUCK, ~20; SCAUP, prob. LESSER?, 4; GREAT BLUE HERON, 4; AM.COOT, ~20; PIED-BILLED GREBE, 2; DOUBLE-CRESTED CORMORANT, 6; SONG SPARROW, ~8; YLO-RMP WARBLER, ~30; MARSH WREN, 2; BEWICK'S WREN, 2; BUSHTIT, ~40; CHIPPING SPARROW, 1; BELTED KINGFISHER, 1; CANADA GOOSE, didn't even try to count or ID subsp.; NO. HARRIER, 1; R-T HAWK, 1; AM. KESTREL, 1. Did not see the expected Bald Eagle or Common Yellowthroat. Bruce Craig. From pamelaj at spiritone.com Fri Jan 24 09:07:52 2003 From: pamelaj at spiritone.com (pamela johnston) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Short-eared Owls Message-ID: <002c01c2c3cb$4fd790e0$a8c563d8@sburock> Bob has mentioned the presence of many gulls and no shortage of loons on the river this week. The Oregonian reports that this is the earliest recorded smelt run on the Columbia. Of course, that doesn't account for the owls... Pamela Johnston Mt Tabor Portland, OR From mgshepard at pacificcoast.net Fri Jan 24 10:53:14 2003 From: mgshepard at pacificcoast.net (Michael G. Shepard) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: January Barn Swallow sightings In-Reply-To: <009c01c2c301$406d8c60$65fb4318@ok.shawcable.net> Message-ID: Barn Swallows are rare in winter, even in Mexico. They occur there in small numbers (primarily in coastal lowlands) throughout the winter, but are not conspicous until they starting migrating through in mid to late February. So ... our birds are far out of the main wintering range. Tree Swallows exhibit similar migration timing in Mexico, but peaking slightly earilier. Mexico,. Has anyone been able to get a handle on what ages our winter Barn Swallows birds are - "eager" adults pushing the the northern boundaries, or simply wandering juveniles, or ????? Cheers, Michael G. Shepard North American Bird Information Web Site: http://www.islandnet.com/~mgs/birds/ New Gull Pages (just started): http://www.islandnet.com/~mgs/birds/Gull.html Recent Postings: http://www.islandnet.com/~mgs/birds/recentpostings.html From shroyers at worldnet.att.net Fri Jan 24 10:57:32 2003 From: shroyers at worldnet.att.net (Shroyer, Loris Joline) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Purple Finch Blemishes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Today amongst the flock of purple finches (first seen at my feeder Monday) arriving for their breakfast is a beautiful male with masses of something on his feet. The masses are a very pale apricot-yellow and appear somewhat warty next to the foot; however, the larger mass, on the right foot, has extensions to at least 1/4 inch above and outside the foot that appear almost feathery. I first thought perhaps the bird had stepped in something and wondered why it hadn't picked it off; however, the mass seems so adherent and the bird's grasp on the feeder rungs so impaired that I wonder if this could be some type of fungal or viral infection. I get the sinking feeling that this possible infection might be transmitted to the other feeding birds whose feet grasp where his have. Please help! Do any of you have information? Shall I stop feeding? Cleaning the feeder with bleach water would not solve this as long as he continues to use it . . . Joline From WeberHome at att.net Fri Jan 24 11:53:36 2003 From: WeberHome at att.net (Cliff & Joanne) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Micro Birding Message-ID: OBOL; Hello! There's a little teensy pond in Beaverton, on the East side of 217, right at the Allen St. exit. We keep an eye on that pond every time we go by there just in case some day something besides Red Wings decide to use it. This morning there was a very nice male Common Merganser, all by his lonesome, right out in the middle. Where: — Beaverton, 2003 Thomas Guide page 625, square D5 Wheelchair Friendly? — Yes. Swing in behind the Pepper Tree Inn and use their back lot. It's all paved. Might be a bit of a challenge to view the pond through the shrubs, but I think it can done in at least one place. I watched the Merganser from the seat of my Ranger pick-up truck. Restrooms? — Not on site. Maybe the Inn's? (By the way, we want to thank whoever replenished the Tigard Library's bird feeder for us this week. We can't get down there till the week-end and the resident LBJ's have been gulping those seeds so fast we can't keep up; and the feeder holds FOUR quarts of food!) Cliff & Joanne Beaverton From birdsong at harborside.com Fri Jan 24 12:24:16 2003 From: birdsong at harborside.com (KACastelein and DJLauten) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Steller's Jays Message-ID: <3E31A0F0.7050107@harborside.com> Folks, Anybody have any insight as to when Steller's Jays start to nest? Seems like the little pigs that were visiting our feeder daily have cooled off a bit and aren't as noisy and frequent visitors suddenly. Means more seed for the rest of the little fellas out there. Anyhow we got to wondering if the Jays have started to nest and are becoming more secretive. Dave Lauten and Kathy Castelein Bandon OR birdsong@harborside.com From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Fri Jan 24 12:47:40 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Jo Co Long-tailed Duck Message-ID: <000b01c2c3e9$d917b100$59aaa43f@hppav> ...that's correct, a LONG-TAILED DUCK (female) was found today (01-24-03) at the Roguelea Ponds off Roguelea Lane in the Senior Trailer Park. In Summers and Miller (1993) there were no previous sighting of this species in Josephine County. ...and Gee, one-up on Jackson County; none listed in the new "Checklist" (2001) for that county. and to think I almost didn't stop there today! Dennis, north of Grants Pass From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Fri Jan 24 12:52:25 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Purple Finch Blemishes References: Message-ID: <001301c2c3ea$80f81220$59aaa43f@hppav> It's likely the "worm-like" growth your seeing are caused by mites (lesions). I have captured and banded several birds with such growths over the years. I'm not sure if there is a web pages that show this; will see what I can find. Perhaps Mike Patterson is aware of one. There is nothing you might be doing that would cause this condition, if it's what I think it is. Dennis > Today amongst the flock of purple finches (first seen at my feeder Monday) > arriving for their breakfast is a beautiful male with masses of something on > his feet. The masses are a very pale apricot-yellow and appear somewhat > warty next to the foot; however, the larger mass, on the right foot, has > extensions to at least 1/4 inch above and outside the foot that appear > almost feathery From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Fri Jan 24 12:59:47 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Micro Birding References: Message-ID: <001901c2c3eb$896dcac0$59aaa43f@hppav> I observed several COMMON MERGANSER males today...did the one you spotted have a the beautiful pinkish-salmon color on the breast and sides of some of those I observed today...really pretty! Dennis > OBOL; Hello! > > This morning there was a very nice male Common Merganser, all by his > lonesome, right out in the middle. From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Fri Jan 24 13:59:11 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Jo Co (other) notes Message-ID: <001301c2c3f3$d4d39320$57aaa43f@hppav> ...gee a Long-tailed Duck, hard to out do that, anyway... At 99 species for the new year for Josephine County now. Others (for the year count) found today (01-24-03) in the Lower River Road area: a pair of NORTHERN PINTAILS (not all that common in the County) 1 SAY'S PHOEBE at least 3 female BROWN-HEADED COWBIRDS (in a flock of 350+ Brewer's Blackbirds). others of interest: The neck collared "Cackler" still around 2 EURASIAN WIGEON (males) 1 RED-SHOULDERED HAWK 85+ WESTERN MEADOWLARKS (someone told me they have yet to find one in Jo Co...here you go) At Roguelea Ponds (in addition to the Long-tailed Duck) 1 RUDDY DUCK 1 WHITE-TAILED KITE (1st I recall seeing here) 1 GREEN HERON All for today, Dennis (north of Grants Pass) From BStitesPDX at aol.com Fri Jan 24 15:59:44 2003 From: BStitesPDX at aol.com (BStitesPDX@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Cedar Waxwings- Portland Message-ID: <13.1716234c.2b632d70@aol.com> Obol: For the second time this week I have observed a flock of Cedar Waxwings feeding along Marine Dr. Today there were 25, eating red berries of some sort on a shrub at 1525 N.E. 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URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030124/97471618/attachment.htm From polktice at juno.com Fri Jan 24 18:04:10 2003 From: polktice at juno.com (William A Tice) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Yamhil Burrowing Owl Message-ID: <20030124.180412.-3911489.2.Polktice@juno.com> Hi FOlks, I went to look for the reported Burrowing Owl just into Yamhill Co with my wife today en route to Salem. It was there. It is skiddish, flying both times I drove slowing by. I could not make out any leg band, so don't think it was the one from Polk Co which dissappeared right after the write up in the Statesman Journal. However, I did not get the greatest of looks at the bird, so a band could be there. Nice bird. Chaulk one up for Yamhill County. Bill ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From edgert1 at attbi.com Fri Jan 24 19:05:25 2003 From: edgert1 at attbi.com (Ed McVicker and Gert Bernstein) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Yaquina Bay Indigo Bunting Message-ID: <002f01c2c41e$9b814b00$3525e00c@attbi.com> David Smith, Gert, and I saw the INDIGO BUNTING this morning (Friday) between 9:30 and 11:00. John and Linda MacKown were very friendly. They welcome birders but request that cars be parked on the road (Yaquina View Rd.) below their driveway as it is a shared drive and space is limited. Directions: From cgates at empnet.com Fri Jan 24 20:35:26 2003 From: cgates at empnet.com (Charles Gates) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Prineville Hybrid Sapsucker Message-ID: <3E32140E.CBC31204@empnet.com> If you would like to view the Sapsucker Hybrid (at least that's what I think it is) I photographed last week, it can be found at: http://www.thebirder.com/photos/sapsucker_hybrid3.jpg This bird looks like it will stay around for the winter as it has many sap wells drilled and lots of food in the area. The Short-eared Owls continue to put on a nightly display at the corner of Reif Rd. and Weigand Rd. in Powell Butte (8 miles east of Redmond in Crook County). The action usually starts around 5:20PM. To get there, turn south on Reif Rd at the white Grange Hall west of Powell Butte. Go through one stop sign and you are in owl country. Chuck Gates -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030124/13e442ec/attachment.htm From celata at pacifier.com Fri Jan 24 21:05:37 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Purple Finch Blemishes References: Message-ID: <3E321B04.FAD37DD8@pacifier.com> Avian Pox (dry form) CAUTION: THIS LINK LEADS TO REALLY GROSS AND ICKY PICTURES http://members.aol.com/FinchMG/RecgnzMG.htm#avian pox "Dennis P. Vroman" wrote: > > It's likely the "worm-like" growth your seeing are caused by mites > (lesions). I have captured and banded several birds with such growths over > the years. I'm not sure if there is a web pages that show this; will see > what I can find. Perhaps Mike Patterson is aware of one. > > There is nothing you might be doing that would cause this condition, if it's > what I think it is. > > Dennis > > > Today amongst the flock of purple finches (first seen at my feeder Monday) > > arriving for their breakfast is a beautiful male with masses of something > on > > his feet. The masses are a very pale apricot-yellow and appear somewhat > > warty next to the foot; however, the larger mass, on the right foot, has > > extensions to at least 1/4 inch above and outside the foot that appear > > almost feathery From areid at bossig.com Fri Jan 24 22:54:16 2003 From: areid at bossig.com (Alan Reid) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Purple Finch Blemishes References: Message-ID: <000a01c2c43e$9491e140$eb9f08d0@LorenaReid> It sounds like you have a case of Avian Pox. It is not directly fatal and not terribly uncommon. Sometimes it affects tissues around the eye in which case it is not so obvious that it is not Conjunctivitis which is much more serious and often fatal. Avian Pox would result in warty growths eventually. The last I heard the Conjunctivitis had not been confirmed in the West, the trouble being that it would take lab tests on a carcass to confirm it. I have seen birds recover from a serious case of the Pox affecting an eye. Granted you can not maintain a sterile condition around a feeder but it would be a good idea to clean it frequently & perhaps do less concentrated feeding for awhile Alan Reid areid@bossig.com 17.5 mile post on McKenzie Hwy. 2 miles west of Leaburg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shroyer, Loris Joline" To: "Obol" Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: [obol] Re: Purple Finch Blemishes > Today amongst the flock of purple finches (first seen at my feeder Monday) > arriving for their breakfast is a beautiful male with masses of something on > his feet. The masses are a very pale apricot-yellow and appear somewhat > warty next to the foot; however, the larger mass, on the right foot, has > extensions to at least 1/4 inch above and outside the foot that appear > almost feathery. I first thought perhaps the bird had stepped in something > and wondered why it hadn't picked it off; however, the mass seems so > adherent and the bird's grasp on the feeder rungs so impaired that I wonder > if this could be some type of fungal or viral infection. I get the sinking > feeling that this possible infection might be transmitted to the other > feeding birds whose feet grasp where his have. > > Please help! Do any of you have information? Shall I stop feeding? > Cleaning the feeder with bleach water would not solve this as long as he > continues to use it . . . > > Joline > > From avocet5 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 25 03:03:47 2003 From: avocet5 at hotmail.com (Holly Reinhard) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Any news of the White Phase Gyrfalcon? Message-ID: Obol, Has anyone heard anything about the White-Phase Gyr. up in Portland, or was it a one-day wonder? -Holly Reinhard OSU, Corvallis, Benton County _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From 5hats at peak.org Sat Jan 25 03:41:30 2003 From: 5hats at peak.org (Darrel Faxon) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Any news of the White Phase Gyrfalcon? References: Message-ID: <000f01c2c466$dbed8580$0000a398@your5rlp3a9516> Obol, And just how unusual is a white phase Gyr, in any case? Are there any previous Oregon records? Darrel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Reinhard" To: "Obol" Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:03 AM Subject: [obol] Any news of the White Phase Gyrfalcon? > Obol, > Has anyone heard anything about the White-Phase Gyr. up in Portland, or was > it a one-day wonder? > -Holly Reinhard > OSU, Corvallis, Benton County > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > From celata at pacifier.com Sat Jan 25 07:36:01 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Any news of the White Phase Gyrfalcon? References: Message-ID: <3E32AEDF.D15A9AC3@pacifier.com> If memory serves, there was a white phase GYR that hung out around the the Eugene airport (late 70's?). I saw a white phase at Trestle Bay 2 years ago that was sitting on pilings and gave us an extended view. Last year a white phase was buzzing MARBLED GODWITS at Youngs Bay. This last December I saw a very pale (first winter white phase?) chasing gulls on the Skipannon River. The editors of American birds placed a big parenthetical caveat after the white Gyr reported chasing godwits suggesting that it might belong to a falconer. I doubt there is a falconer in Clatsop County who owns a white Gyrfalcon (it's a small town, and I'd have heard about it). A white Gyr would, so I'm told, be quite an investment, too. It is, however, not outside the realm of possibility that someone from Portland owns a Gyr and occasionally brings it to Clatsop Co. to fly. I once met a guy who traveled in a specially tricked out van with a compartment for his PEREGRINExLANNER. Darrel Faxon wrote: > > Obol, > And just how unusual is a white phase Gyr, in any case? Are there any > previous Oregon records? > > Darrel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Holly Reinhard" > To: "Obol" > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:03 AM > Subject: [obol] Any news of the White Phase Gyrfalcon? > > > Obol, > > Has anyone heard anything about the White-Phase Gyr. up in Portland, or > was > > it a one-day wonder? > > -Holly Reinhard > > OSU, Corvallis, Benton County > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > From jimcat16 at juno.com Sat Jan 25 09:38:57 2003 From: jimcat16 at juno.com (james J juliano) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Flicker at thistle feeder Message-ID: <20030125.093858.-632143.1.jimcat16@juno.com> impossible that the bird can get its beak inside the openings. Can anyone tell me if its possible that the bird is using its tongue to get the seeds out? Anyone else observe this behavior? Jim Juliano From polktice at juno.com Sat Jan 25 09:35:59 2003 From: polktice at juno.com (William A Tice) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Fw: BURROWING OWL (Yamill Co.) Message-ID: <20030125.093718.-3781509.0.Polktice@juno.com> OBOL, Attached are the directions to the Yamhill Co Burrowing Owl. I had thought they were already posted, but someone brought it to my attention that they were not. Bill -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Carol Karlen" Subject: BURROWING OWL (Yamill Co.) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:41:57 -0800 Size: 6029 Url: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030125/99c983a0/attachment.eml From dbagues at earthlink.net Sat Jan 25 10:53:54 2003 From: dbagues at earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Diane_Bag=FC=E9s?=) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: McCown's Longspur Message-ID: <004201c2c4a3$2c9e9960$6401a8c0@happyuser> Hi, If anybody sees the McCown's Longspur in Portland over the next few days, could you post it online. I may bring a friend to the site on Mon. or Thurs. if it is still there. Thank you, Diane Bagues Milwaukie, Oregon dbagues@earthlink.net P.S. Thanks again to all who helped me see the bird last weekend! You all are great! From celata at pacifier.com Sat Jan 25 12:26:08 2003 From: celata at pacifier.com (Mike Patterson) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Columbia Estuary Report - 1/25/2003 Message-ID: <3E32F2DC.9CFBE248@pacifier.com> Columbia Estuary Report - 1/25/2003 A single 1st winter SNOW GOOSE was with 2500 CACKLING GEESE and a few mid-size CANADA GEESE along Wireless Rd today. I found 6 CACKLERS with yellow collars, 5 of them were very close together. Stretching the definition of Columbia Estuary.... I came home from a visit to the computer doctor yesterday via Scappoose Bottoms where, among other birds, I found a single flock of 60 GREAT EGRETS around the back edge of a flooded field. My final egret count was 79. -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR celata@pacifier.com A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness that amazes those with ears who hear not. -Neltje Blanchan http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html From Hhactitis at aol.com Sat Jan 25 13:06:17 2003 From: Hhactitis at aol.com (Hhactitis@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Linn Co. mini-roundup Message-ID: <21.2ab1a924.2b645649@aol.com> Hello OBOLites, my partner Oscar and I went on a quick Linn Co. run this morning to look for some of the special birds reported in recent weeks. Along Tangent Dr., the PACIFIC GOLDEN-PLOVER was hunkered down behind a tuft of grass in the field just W of the railroad tracks. Portland birder Bill (sorry, didn't catch the last name) and his son were already on site and had their scope conveniently pointed at the bird (it was my 5th attempt for the plover this year, so I was very happy to finally get lucky). We then continued down to the intersection of Blueberry and Linn Co. Rd, where Oscar spotted the BURROWING OWL at the entrance of its favorite culvert. The little guy put on quite a show for us, and I was able to see the leg bands (metal on the right, pink on the left, as previously described by others). No trace of Horned Larks or Snow Buntings in the big field to the south, but we didn't spend much time looking .... At any rate, a nice way to start an otherwise rather gray Saturday .... Good birding Hendrik ___________________________________ Hendrik G. Herlyn 2855 NW Tyler Avenue Corvallis, OR 97330 Phone/Fax: 541-738-2670 e-mail: hhactitis@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Carol Ledford kestrel@aaahawk.com From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Sat Jan 25 14:28:04 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Columbia Estuary Report - 1/25/2003 References: Message-ID: <000901c2c4c1$091ca680$70aba43f@hppav> At least 1 Cackling Goose in the Grants Pass area sporting a yellow collar...wonder how many more are strung around the state? I was never able to see more than 3 characters on the collar (which didn't seem to want to turn on the birds neck); were you able to see more than 3? Dennis > I found 6 CACKLERS with yellow collars, 5 of them were very > close together. From dpvroman at cdsnet.net Sat Jan 25 14:32:36 2003 From: dpvroman at cdsnet.net (Dennis P. Vroman) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Flicker at thistle feeder References: Message-ID: <001a01c2c4c1$abd217c0$70aba43f@hppav> If Flickers (a Woodpecker in general) have a barbed tongue tip similar to other Woodpeckers...it should be a problem. I have actually handled several birds over the years and have never looked at one of their tongues! I have seen them at thistle feeders in the past on occasion. Dennis > I have had a flicker at my thistle feeder this week. It seems > impossible that the bird can get its beak inside the openings. Can anyone > tell me if its possible that the bird is using its tongue to get the > seeds out? Anyone else observe this behavior? > > Jim Juliano > From malbirds at fmtc.com Sat Jan 25 17:15:33 2003 From: malbirds at fmtc.com (ekmarple) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Ferrugenous Hawk Message-ID: <000d01c2c4d8$6da7f8e0$8b27bed8@v21ys> E. OR West of Vale, A very nice Ferruginous Hawk on the power pole south of the house - his being kept the Morning Doves from the corn field. The grass is turning green - unheard of for Vale this time of the year. Marple From Hhactitis at aol.com Sat Jan 25 16:54:07 2003 From: Hhactitis at aol.com (Hhactitis@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Finley NWR Message-ID: <1cb.d28db2.2b648baf@aol.com> Hello OBOL, Oscar and I went on a quick post-lunch run to Finley NWR this afternoon. Not too much of note - highlights included: COMMON GOLDENEYE: one female on McFadden Marsh EURASIAN WIGEON: there were about 300 AMERICAN WIGEONS on the pond along Finley Road near the red barn and HQ building. The flock also included at least 7 male EUWIs and one female - one of the highest concentrations of EUWIs I've seen in Oregon, especially in such a comparatively small wigeon flock! In addition, the flock included an adult male wigeon that looked like a perfect HYBRID AMxEUWI - body color almost exactly like an AMWI, perhaps with a touch more gray; head a dull grayish brown with a hint of the AMWI head pattern otlined in darker brown, forehead color a pale buff, right between the yellow buff of a EUWI and the white forehead of an AMWI. Interesting bird - my first adult male hybrid (I've seen a couple of immature male EUxAMWI hybrids before). Interestingly, the bird appeared to be paired with a female EUWI. ROUGH-LEGGED HAWK: one at McFadden Marsh, one along N Entrance Road No swallows; few geese, all Canadas Good birding Hendrik ___________________________________ Hendrik G. Herlyn 2855 NW Tyler Avenue Corvallis, OR 97330 Phone/Fax: 541-738-2670 e-mail: hhactitis@aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030125/2fa041de/attachment.htm From WeberHome at att.net Sat Jan 25 17:32:08 2003 From: WeberHome at att.net (Cliff & Joanne) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Jackson Bottom Wetlands Message-ID: OBOL; Hello! Well…. we're eye witnesses. There really is a male Common Yellowthroat hanging around the north viewing shelter. We saw it (I should say Joanne saw it first) around 11:15 this morning. It was a really nice, peppy looking little fellow, very bright coloring, like his feathers had been painted with a fluorescent highlighter. If you were to stand inside the shelter, at the right end of the banister, facing east towards the Bald Eagles' aerie, then look down maybe 50 feet in front of the shelter; there's a piece of white PVC pipe sticking up out of the ground. The Yellowthroat was maybe 10 feet or so from the pipe, towards the shelter, in the canary grass. Good possibility that one of the other birders spotted three Band-tail Pigeons at the tippy-top of a distant fir tree. Difficult to make out markings at that distance with this morning's overcast, but could have sworn to have briefly glimpsed a somewhat dim, horizontal dark marking on the back of one of their tails when they flapped off towards Hillsboro. Where: — Hillsboro, 2003 Portland Thomas Guide page 593, square B6 Wheel Chair Friendly? — Yes. The north parking lot is paved and has a bit of sidewalk fronting the marsh and also leading into the shelter: which has a solid planked floor. Restrooms? — None at the north shelter. McDonald's close by in Hillsboro. Or drive about a mile down the road to Jackson's south viewing shelter; where there's two porta-potties set up in a gravel parking lot. Cliff & Joanne Beaverton From polktice at juno.com Sat Jan 25 17:33:22 2003 From: polktice at juno.com (William A Tice) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Polk Lewis' Woodpeckers Message-ID: <20030125.173326.-3924729.0.Polktice@juno.com> Hi Folks, My wife and I found 2 Lewis Woodpeckers today, at the west end of Elkins Road. There is a patch of Oaks that always has Acorn Woodpeckers therein which we did see as well. Since there has not been very many reports this winter of Lewis WPs in the valley I thought this would be worth reporting. Bill ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From cbrumitt at jeffnet.org Sat Jan 25 17:59:28 2003 From: cbrumitt at jeffnet.org (Clint Brumitt) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Kirtland Rd Sewage Pond Message-ID: <003701c2c4de$901f9d50$c5380143@hewlett5k1589j> Stopped by the Kirtland Rd sewage ponds in the Medford/White City area, on my way home this afternoon. A fair amount of the usual waterfowl were present. Around 15 GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE were present. The other birds of note were two probable PEREGRINE FALCONS. I says probable because they have been seen by others and so identified, but with the light, my scope and the distance to the far power poles I could not positively ID both of them. One was facing the ponds and one was facing the lower Table Rock. A Red-tailed Hawk flew by and the birds were slightly smaller than the Red-tail. The ducks and geese on the sewage ponds were quite relaxed and not at all bothered by the birds. I suppose if the falcons flew towards the group the waterfowl would scatter, but it seemed like a truce had been declared and everyone was sleeping the afternoon away. Clint Brumitt cbrumitt@jeffnet.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/obol/attachments/20030125/2e344908/attachment.htm From snowyowl98683 at comcast.net Sat Jan 25 20:25:24 2003 From: snowyowl98683 at comcast.net (Mark Miller) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Fernhill Wetlands 1/25: swallows and sparrows Message-ID: Hi Everyone-- Marcia Marvin and I spent a few humid hours (11:30-2:30) at Fernhill Wetlands on Saturday 1/25, mainly looking at sparrows. The flock in the berry canes west of the Cattail Lake kiosk is still good; we saw 4 SAVANNAH, 2 FOX, 1 SWAMP, 1 LINCOLN'S, 6 SONG, 6 GOLDEN-CROWNED, and 4 WHITE-CROWNED. Other good birds were 3 BARN SWALLOWS (1 bright bird, 2 dull ones) over Cattail Lake, 2 adult BALD EAGLES squealing at each other in the trees on the east side of Cattail Lake, and 3 CANVASBACKS on the main pond with LESSER SCAUP and RING-NECKED DUCKS. Surprisingly, there were a few shorebirds left: 4 LEAST SANDPIPERS flying around the mitigation ponds, and a flock containing about 20 KILLDEER and 1 WILSON'S SNIPE flying over Cattail Lake. I got a glimpse of a swan sp. flying east off the mitigation ponds with a group of Canada Geese. There are still many pintails around. No sign of the shelducks, nor of any White-throated Sparrows. We ran into a couple communicating on FRS radios. They said that channel 11, subcode 17, was the "OBOL" channel. This was news to me, and I vaguely remember that channel 11, subcode 22 was something the ABA agreed on. Does anyone besides these two listen on 11 and 17? Mark Miller Vancouver, WA snowyowl98683@comcast.net From woodpecker97330 at YAHOO.COM Sat Jan 25 20:41:05 2003 From: woodpecker97330 at YAHOO.COM (Jamie Simmons) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:39:44 2004 Subject: Indigo Bunting 1/25; sex? Message-ID: Joe Fontaine,